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I don't live in Pennsylvania so I MIGHT be wrong, but I believe that May
is a rainy time of year.

Willi is NOT wrong. Over the last 30 years, we've averaged about an
inch of rain a week at that time of year. Dave and I got caught in a
minor blizzard last year! But we also have lovely, warm, sunny days
in May.

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Well,

the ticket is booked and paid for. With the connection flight it was US$
740.

Some questions:

What are the waters that we fish? Small creek(s)? Big river?
Any special flies that are a must?
Do I bring my own deck of cards or will you bring your marked ones? ;-)
Do I need to shop for food in advance or is there a place nearby that I can
get what I need?
Do you plan dinner in groups or each and everyone to himself?
Whats lobster night? An excuse to get drunk?
What will the climate be like?
Lou, is it OK if I accept your offer on a sleeping bag and mattress?
I have a four piece rod Sage 490-4LL, will that cover my needs or do I bring
a heavier classed rod?
What will we be fishing for? (Brown trout, rainbow trout, cutthroat or
what?)
Anyone wish to buy something from Sweden? Loop reel or anything like that?

/ Roger
Daytime engineer
Lifetime fly fisherman
If you feel like it, visit http://www.imsoc.se/angler/ for info on fly
fishing in northern Sweden, Lapland,
or visit http://www.imsoc.se/ffgallery/ , the fly fishermen's gallery.

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On 1/9/04 11:42 AM, in article , "Roger Ohlund"
wrote:

snip

What will the climate be like?

I hear tell it's guaranteed to be sunny and warm.

Bill

(I look forward to meeting you, Roger!)

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What will the climate be like?

I hear tell it's guaranteed to be sunny and warm.

Compared to what, Scotland?
Bring your Swedish Gore-Tex Bikini Model Volleyball Team. I'm
personally looking for a good condition "dry suit" for this year.
Frank Reid

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Roger writes:

the ticket is booked and paid for. With the connection flight it was US$
740.

Some questions:

What are the waters that we fish? Small creek(s)? Big river?

Penns Creek is a fairly large stream, wadeable, but you can only cross it at a
few places. I am sure that there will be side trips to smaller creeks. If
Dave PA goes, see if you can bum a ride with him. Great guy who knows the area
well.

Any special flies that are a must?

Most caddis and mayfly imitations work well. I've had lots of luck with PTs
and caddis larva numphs.

Do I bring my own deck of cards or will you bring your marked ones? ;-)

Jeffie will supply the cards, and they won't be marked. d;o)

Do I need to shop for food in advance or is there a place nearby that I can
get what I need?

There's a supermarket in Milheim. We'll stop there if you want. It's just up
the road from where we'll get your license. You can get stuff to make
sandwhiches or whatever you need.

Do you plan dinner in groups or each and everyone to himself?

Usually dinner is whenever someone feels like fixing something. I've learned a
long time ago that it's difficult to get everyone together at one time. But,
you won't go hungry.

Whats lobster night? An excuse to get drunk?

Uhhh, the folks you'll meet at Penns do not need an excuse to get drunk.
Lobster nights is Thursday night at the Milheim. If you've never had lobster,
it will be a treat. You don't have to have lobster, however. They make a very
good hamburger fwiw.

What will the climate be like?

Could be chilly, but nothing that would require heavy clothes. I would say the
temps will be in the 60s or warmer during the day. The water will be cold.
Dress in layers.

Lou, is it OK if I accept your offer on a sleeping bag and mattress?

There are two couches in the cabin also.

I have a four piece rod Sage 490-4LL, will that cover my needs or do I bring
a heavier classed rod?

I'm guessing that is a 9 ft 4 weight? I normally use the same rod in a two
piece model

What will we be fishing for? (Brown trout, rainbow trout, cutthroat or
what?)

Browns and rainbows. If Waldo goes, follow him and you'll catch lots of
suckers. d;o)

Anyone wish to buy something from Sweden? Loop reel or anything like that?


What else do you have to offer? d;o)
/ Roger
Daytime engineer
Lifetime fly fisherman
If you feel like it, visit http://www.imsoc.se/angler/ for info on fly
fishing in northern Sweden, Lapland,
or visit http://www.imsoc.se/ffgallery/ , the fly fishermen's gallery.


Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html

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William Claspy wrote:

On 1/9/04 11:42 AM, in article , "Roger Ohlund"
wrote:

snip

What will the climate be like?


I hear tell it's guaranteed to be sunny and warm.

Bill

(I look forward to meeting you, Roger!)


You're flying a long ways and I think you deserve a more honest answer.
I don't live in Pennsylvania so I MIGHT be wrong, but I believe that May
is a rainy time of year. The year I went, it literally rained every day
and the rivers were muddy and very high. That was an exceptional amount
of rain. Last year was better. The likelihood of muddied rivers is what
makes the trip this year iffy for me.

Maybe Bill is in charge of weather this year and he's guaranteeing good
weather?

Willi

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In article , Roger Ohlund
wrote:

To add to Dave's advice,

Some questions:

What are the waters that we fish? Small creek(s)? Big river?
Penns is scary strong in places, bring a wading staff (not as a carry
on!) In the areas I fished Spring Creek is usually 10 to 20 meters wide
and easily wadeable

Any special flies that are a must?
My best luck has been on caddis emergers, Hares ears and Pheasant tails

Do I bring my own deck of cards or will you bring your marked ones? ;-)
I'm sure they will be sufficently marked, now where's that Kroner
exchange chart?

Do I need to shop for food in advance or is there a place nearby that I can
get what I need?
Plenty locally.

Do you plan dinner in groups or each and everyone to himself?
Don't miss Asadi's mexican night or Franks Moose and Barly stew

Whats lobster night? An excuse to get drunk?
The lobsters we're reffering to look like this. As Dave noted, no
excuse needed.
http://www.livelob.com/lobstergram/s...atid=SURFNTURF

What will the climate be like?
Here's a link to Jonas's shop. Although it looks a bit dormant right
now it's a wealth of information on conditions as the trip gets closer
http://www.twd.net/feathrhk/
you can also look up Coburn PA on weather.com and look at the
historical. I've seen shorts and t-shirts, I've seen hail and I've seen
Brookies rising in Frank's tent.

I have a four piece rod Sage 490-4LL, will that cover my needs or do I bring
a heavier classed rod?
A 4 weight should work fine unless you fall into company with Petah and
end up night fishing with streamers

What will we be fishing for? (Brown trout, rainbow trout, cutthroat or
what?)
Yep, primarly although there are Brook trout as well.
Anyone wish to buy something from Sweden? Loop reel or anything like that?
Pancakes?

Really looking forward to meeting you.

Allen
Catonsville, MD

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"Roger Ohlund" wrote in message
...
Well,

the ticket is booked and paid for. With the connection flight it was US$
740.

Some questions:


roger, my fishing experiences have primarily been on relatively small,
freestone streams in the southern appalachians, and i must say that
successful fishing at penn's creek requires an entirely different set of
skills. fishing is very technical. by that, i mean that most of the time,
selection of the right fly is far more important than any other factor. of
course, you must be able to lay out a little line, and mend a little, but
expertise in the use of rod and line is far less important than choosing
which fly to use: wet, dry, nymph, pattern, size---very technical. but the
up side is that the guys who are really good at this sort of thing (tom
littleton, mike makela, handyman mike, dave pa, louie lacourse, and similar
thieves) are very helpful to the uninitiated. makela actually spoke to me
one evening. :) really, though, the overall experience is the heart of the
trip. some fascinating folks and beautiful countryside. oh, it ain't the
southern part of heaven (the old north state), but it's ok.
you really won't need to bring a single fly. you can buy a few of the
patterns that the experts suggest, and your 9foot4weight is perfect for the
water. i would figure on a daily expense of about $50, not counting major
equipment madness.
if i am there, you will be treated to a performance at the hearts table
that can only be described as awesome, and impromptu folk rock concerts that
have ...changed... some of the attendees. other than that, i'm just a
regular guy.

your friend in the old north state
wayno

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Alan wrote:snip I've seen hail and I've seen

I thought the next line would be from an old James Taylor song.

Big Dale

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On 1/9/04 1:35 PM, in article ,
"Willi" wrote:



William Claspy wrote:

On 1/9/04 11:42 AM, in article , "Roger Ohlund"
wrote:

snip

What will the climate be like?


I hear tell it's guaranteed to be sunny and warm.

Bill

(I look forward to meeting you, Roger!)


You're flying a long ways and I think you deserve a more honest answer.
I don't live in Pennsylvania so I MIGHT be wrong, but I believe that May
is a rainy time of year. The year I went, it literally rained every day
and the rivers were muddy and very high. That was an exceptional amount
of rain. Last year was better. The likelihood of muddied rivers is what
makes the trip this year iffy for me.

Maybe Bill is in charge of weather this year and he's guaranteeing good
weather?

With the discussions of Penns weather that we've seen on ROFF, I didn't
think my post needed a smiley. :-)

Roger, plan on bringing everything from shorts to midweight long johns, from
sun hat to full on Gore Tex and you'll probably use most or all of it during
the week.

Honest Bill, who's barely in charge of himself.

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"Allen Epps" wrote in message
...
In article , Roger Ohlund
wrote:

Here's a link to Jonas's shop. Although it looks a bit dormant right
now it's a wealth of information on conditions as the trip gets closer
http://www.twd.net/feathrhk/

Good information!
I especially liked the hatch chart. Gives me an idea on what to bring.

During the clave, will anyone be likely to fish the surounding waters?
(Pine, Elk, Big fishing and/or Spring creek?)
It would be nice to see more than one water. After all, I will have gone a
long way to get there.

/Roger

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"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
r.com...

"Roger Ohlund" wrote in message
...
Well,

the ticket is booked and paid for. With the connection flight it was US$
740.

Some questions:


roger, my fishing experiences have primarily been on relatively small,
freestone streams in the southern appalachians, and i must say that
successful fishing at penn's creek requires an entirely different set of
skills. fishing is very technical. by that, i mean that most of the
time,
selection of the right fly is far more important than any other factor.
of
course, you must be able to lay out a little line, and mend a little, but
expertise in the use of rod and line is far less important than choosing
which fly to use: wet, dry, nymph, pattern, size---very technical.

Sounds very much like what I'm used to.

but the
up side is that the guys who are really good at this sort of thing (tom
littleton, mike makela, handyman mike, dave pa, louie lacourse, and
similar
thieves) are very helpful to the uninitiated. makela actually spoke to me
one evening. :) really, though, the overall experience is the heart of
the
trip. some fascinating folks and beautiful countryside. oh, it ain't the
southern part of heaven (the old north state), but it's ok.
you really won't need to bring a single fly. you can buy a few of the
patterns that the experts suggest, and your 9foot4weight is perfect for
the
water. i would figure on a daily expense of about $50, not counting major
equipment madness.

Uhuh, I'm starting to feel scared of this Feathered Hook fly shop. Perhaps I
better not set my foot in there, knowing myself and all. ;-) Or maybe bring
more money.....hmmm.....better not.

if i am there, you will be treated to a performance at the hearts
table
that can only be described as awesome, and impromptu folk rock concerts
that
have ...changed... some of the attendees. other than that, i'm just a
regular guy.

I'm not sure that I'm doing the right thing here.....but I have to confess
that I don't know how to play hearts. Poker on the other hand "I have never
played" ;-)

/Roger

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Roger writes:

During the clave, will anyone be likely to fish the surounding waters?
(Pine, Elk, Big fishing and/or Spring creek?)
It would be nice to see more than one water. After all, I will have gone a
long way to get there.


Most definitely. Dave PA is the man to see. He knows the local waters very
well and I am sure would lend a hand showing them to you. He may even bring
you to the small restaurant that serves the best french fries in PA.
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html

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During the clave, will anyone be likely to fish the surounding waters?
(Pine, Elk, Big fishing and/or Spring creek?)
It would be nice to see more than one water. After all, I will have gone a
long way to get there.

/Roger

Take your pick on the day, some one will be probably going to each of
these during the week. If the weather changes, we pick the water thats
clearest. If the cell phone rings and some one is screaming HATCH!, we
run like hell to that stream.
Frank

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Roger Ohlund wrote:

Well,

the ticket is booked and paid for. With the connection flight it was US$
740.

there is something rotten in denmark... i can't find a ticket
originating from this side of the pond for under 1100.


Some questions:

What are the waters that we fish? Small creek(s)? Big river?

some of the waters you fish, based on photos you have posted, seem about
the same size as penns. penns has all the variety and character in a
trout stream you could want... i'm sure you'll find a stretch of penns
that reminds you of many other trout streams you've fished. the other
streams in the area are smaller. we'll assure that you find the type of
water you prefer and sample others you might like. most of the group
sit on the productive pools or runs, fishing only the peak hours.
others like to hike and move about a good bit. you'll have plenty of
choices and opportunities with this crowd of very enthusiastic and
accommodating anglers.

Any special flies that are a must?

yup...but, it's hard to predict. bring some of what you have confidence
with, but you'll probably do better just to wait til you're there and
then buy from jonas' shop or bum some from makela and littleton. if the
hatches are on, it's just a phenomenal sight and you do your best to
match it. i've only seen it in full form one of the three years i've
been at penns. but, that and the big penns' browns keep me returning
each year. march browns, sulphurs, and stoneflies seem standards each
year, and always catch fish. but, i've caught fish on an elk hair
caddis, stimulator, parachute adams, and hares ear. it's technical
fishing, no doubt, but even i land a few. the match the hatch gurus and
the dredgers always seem to do well.

Do I bring my own deck of cards or will you bring your marked ones? ;-)

cards are at the cabin.

Do I need to shop for food in advance or is there a place nearby that I can
get what I need?

we'll get victuals there... if dave is bringing you, he'll know where to
stop on the way. we'll shop at some point during the week, but usually
pick up stuff as needed or when we feel like it
..
Do you plan dinner in groups or each and everyone to himself?

groups usually form for meals... you'll have plenty of hosts.

Whats lobster night? An excuse to get drunk?

.... the milheim inn offers a good deal on lobster one night a week, and
a crowd usually likes to eat there. they have a good bar.

What will the climate be like?

hard to tell. it varies. best guess is warm during the day 60s-70s, cool
at night 40s-50s. might rain...might not, but usually does rain some.
the first year was beautiful weather with incredible hatches; second
year was a monsoon; last year there was some rain, but mostly just
overcast skies and a bit chilly.

Lou, is it OK if I accept your offer on a sleeping bag and mattress?

sure g

I have a four piece rod Sage 490-4LL, will that cover my needs or do I bring
a heavier classed rod?

9 ft 4 weight will be perfect for penns. there will be plenty of other
rods available if you want a different rig.

What will we be fishing for? (Brown trout, rainbow trout, cutthroat or
what?)

in penns, mainly big browns... some rainbows... very few brookies. we've
caught some smallmouth bass too...and wally caught a carp. i'll e-mail
you some pictures.

jeff

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Uhuh, I'm starting to feel scared of this Feathered Hook fly shop. Perhaps
I
better not set my foot in there, knowing myself and all. ;-) Or maybe
bring
more money.....hmmm.....better not.

The problem with the Feathered Hook is that it is a fully stocked fly shop,
run by a guy who is immediately likable. You spend 5 minutes talking to him
and he's already figured out your current needs, future needs, a couple of
long range desires and your ability to pay. He then shows you a few items
that are within your budget. Problem is, one or two are within the budget,
but you look at all he offers and end up picking up enough to cover the cost
of one of those long range desires. Then he does things like sell you
waders (by noticing that your in the shop with wet pants), and then says to
bring them back next year and he'll upgrade you to the next level of waders
for the price difference. Just go there, throw open the door, throw in your
wallet and step in afterwards. He will then know your credit history so you
can avoid the first 5 minute talk.
I have to admit, there are few local fly stores that equal his level of
service. One's in North Carolina, one's in St Louis, and I know of three in
California. With the current dollar to krona rate, you're in for a treat.
As an aside, when I was in California last month, I went into Bob Marriotts
in Orange. I told them where I was going fishing. I also said I needed a
license. The store had already sent all of their 2003 licenses back to the
state, so the clerk just got on the phone, called up three stores where I
was going, found one that opened early that had licenses on hand, got a
fishing report on the local river and proceded to walk me around the store
to ensure I had every thing that I needed for the conditions 250 miles away
on a river he'd not been on in 20 years.
Frank Reid

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Dave LaCourse wrote:

What will we be fishing for? (Brown trout, rainbow trout, cutthroat or
what?)


Browns and rainbows. If Waldo goes, follow him and you'll catch lots of
suckers. d;o)

oh the pain.

roger, if i make it this year, i'll be happy and pleased to share
a spot on "wally's run" with ya. big discriminating fish for the
patient and talented angler, which of course, lacourse, ain't. ;-)

wherebegone wally

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Jeff Miller wrote:

in penns, mainly big browns... some rainbows... very few brookies. we've
caught some smallmouth bass too...and wally caught a carp. i'll e-mail
you some pictures.


the indignity..... oh the pain.

wally, i also caught a rock

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Roger Ohlund wrote:
Well,

the ticket is booked and paid for. With the connection flight it was US$
740.

cool.

Some questions:

What are the waters that we fish? Small creek(s)? Big river?

you can fish either. penns is large by eastern standards. there
are some very nice streams within a 5 to 60 minute drive. one
that i really like is about 15 minutes from the cabin.

Any special flies that are a must?

mushmouth...

seriously.... on the dry i've used march browns, sulphurs, adams,
black caddis, hoppers, and yes, yellow humpies with good success.
teched fished some small bwo midges one evening the first
year.... way cool.

i really enjoy swinging wet flies on penns. tom littleton ties up
some awesome march brown patterns.

the largest fish on penns creek (except one darlin' last year on
a mb dry) i have caught all have been on large buggers or nymphs.

Do I bring my own deck of cards or will you bring your marked ones? ;-)

the simpletons play hearts. i'm at the poker table. (just kiddin'
wayno and blackbeard)

Do I need to shop for food in advance or is there a place nearby that I can
get what I need?

no need to shop in advance unless you care to bring over some
swedish delicacies for us per.... err, gourmands.

Do you plan dinner in groups or each and everyone to himself?

groups most nights....

Whats lobster night? An excuse to get drunk?

of course. and the lobstah' ain't bad either.

What will the climate be like?

ya dun wanna ask me....

Lou, is it OK if I accept your offer on a sleeping bag and mattress?

ok, but please keep this to yalllselves.

I have a four piece rod Sage 490-4LL, will that cover my needs or do I bring
a heavier classed rod?

that rod will serve you very well roger.

What will we be fishing for? (Brown trout, rainbow trout, cutthroat or
what?)

i fish for browns. i catch a multitude of everything else ;-)


Anyone wish to buy something from Sweden? Loop reel or anything like that?

err, see food ? above.

i'm looking forward to your acquaintance roger.... i sure hope i
can make pa this year.

woebegone wally

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"Frank Reid" moc.deepselbac@diersicnarf wrote in message
...
Uhuh, I'm starting to feel scared of this Feathered Hook fly shop. Perhaps
I
better not set my foot in there, knowing myself and all. ;-) Or maybe
bring
more money.....hmmm.....better not.

The problem with the Feathered Hook is that it is a fully stocked fly shop,
run by a guy who is immediately likable. You spend 5 minutes talking to him
and he's already figured out your current needs, future needs, a couple of
long range desires and your ability to pay. He then shows you a few items
that are within your budget. Problem is, one or two are within the budget,
but you look at all he offers and end up picking up enough to cover the cost
of one of those long range desires. Then he does things like sell you
waders (by noticing that your in the shop with wet pants), and then says to
bring them back next year and he'll upgrade you to the next level of waders
for the price difference.

THAT'S THE GUY!

I have to admit, there are few local fly stores that equal his level of
service.

Seriously, Roger, you would be hard pressed to find a shop owner half as
likeable as Jonas (present roff company excepted, of course.) He really doesn't
TRY to sell you anything. When you tell him you're shopping for something in
particular, he'll take the time to ask a few questions first to make sure he's
giving you proper advice. In my case, I spent about ten minutes in the shop
buying a few flies, gadgets, etc., and then a few other fly fishers, Jonas and I
sat on the front porch of the shop and just swapped stories. I found him so
likeable that I WANTED to spend more of my money in his shop. Frank should also
retell the 2002 story of the lost rod, which truly shows this man's character.
He's a gem in the world of lesser men. When I find my way back there again in
the future I would gladly part with more of my money to make sure he's around in
the future.
--
TL,
Tim
who has no affiliation with The Feathered Hook. :)
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

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"Roger Ohlund"
wrote in message

the ticket is booked and paid for. With the connection flight it was US$
740.
Anyone wish to buy something from Sweden? Loop reel or anything like
that?

Unless you've got some Absinthe and wanna sneak it through customs I fdon't
need a thing....now, should you need anything, anything at all, let me know.

Hey wait a second, there is something. Here, if you go into a fly shop and
buy just one or two flies you can also purchase a small plastic box with a
flip lid to keep the fly in. It will have the name of the fly shop on the
lid.

Is it possible you might be near such a fly shop that sells flied tied by
someone local? Could you also get the name of the tier? I'd 'really'
appreciate it and will pay for the things.

....how do you feel about evening church services?

john

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There's a Pennsylvania group that has a get together in the same area. Here's
their site for their get together. Lots of good information:

http://mysite.verizon.net/vze2gkpn/


What are the waters that we fish? Small creek(s)? Big river?

Small creeks and Big streams. Some with dumb stocked fish and some with PhD
fish.

Any special flies that are a must?

We will probably hit a Sulphur hatch on the Penns. There are about 4 different
types of Sulphurs from cream to Orange. The fish often key on only one of
these types drys and my change what they are keying on after a short period of
time. There is also a size 14 yellow (canary-yellow) crane fly that at times
will get strikes while the fish are hiting Sulphurs.

Do I bring my own deck of cards or will you bring your marked ones? ;-)

I don't know snything about poker or hearts , but may be willing to learn.

Do I need to shop for food in advance or is there a place nearby that I can
get what I need?

Don't know. Haven't stayed with this group before. People in the U.S.
typically eat a small Breakfast compared to Europeans (Nothing resembling
Frustuk). Lunch is usually light also, with Supper (Dinner) being the big meal
(in size, but not variety).

Do you plan dinner in groups or each and everyone to himself?

Lobster dinner at the Milhjeim Hotel and the dinner at the Sportsman Club are
attended by most. Other meals depend on individual schedules and If someone is
puting together a stew, Bar B Que, or similar social eating event.

Whats lobster night? An excuse to get drunk?

A special menu that the Milheim Hotel puts on once a month featuring Lobster.
Very well attended by not only ROFF. Reservations are a must and must be made
early.

What will the climate be like?

Like Stockholm. Rain may effect fishing conditions where you will not be able
to fish the stream you would like, but an alternate stream of a lower priority
will be fishable.

Lou, is it OK if I accept your offer on a sleeping bag and mattress?

I planed on giving you the small bedroom. Don't know what beds are like so I'm
bringing air matresses and a couple of folding cots if the sofas are not that
good. I'll have a 40 degree Farenheit. goose down sleeping bag for you to
use.

I have a four piece rod Sage 490-4LL, will that cover my needs or do I bring
a heavier classed rod?

Sounds like the rod of choice for most attendees. I will have spare rods and
reels in case anyone breaks theirs plus a cheap pair of Red Ball stocking foot
waders in case some one ruins theirs.

What will we be fishing for? (Brown trout, rainbow trout, cutthroat or
what?)

Brown, Rainbow and Brook Trout, stream bred and stocked; smart, and some dumb
ones (I hope).

Anyone wish to buy something from Sweden? Loop reel or anything like that?

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Roger, I hit a super spot on Spring Creek in 2003 and had an exceptional 45+
fish day. I would be glad to take you over. Elk Creek can be an excellent
fish as well and you can start on the section where it runs into Penns and
not wander far from the crowd. Plan on dredging Penns with nymphs unless
you see the fish actively feeding on top. Even then they are often taking
emergers and will turn a nose at a dry.
--
Wayne
To Fish is Human...To Release Divine!

"Roger Ohlund" wrote in message
...

"Allen Epps" wrote in message
...
In article , Roger Ohlund
wrote:

Here's a link to Jonas's shop. Although it looks a bit dormant right
now it's a wealth of information on conditions as the trip gets closer
http://www.twd.net/feathrhk/

Good information!
I especially liked the hatch chart. Gives me an idea on what to bring.

During the clave, will anyone be likely to fish the surounding waters?
(Pine, Elk, Big fishing and/or Spring creek?)
It would be nice to see more than one water. After all, I will have gone a
long way to get there.

/Roger

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On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:42:31 +0100, "Roger Ohlund"
wrote:

Well,

the ticket is booked and paid for. With the connection flight it was US$
740.

Some questions:

What are the waters that we fish? Small creek(s)? Big river?

Well, you've already had lots of answers to that but Wally, Tom, and I
can show you at least one more.

Any special flies that are a must?

Streamers :) Big Streamers :)))

Do I bring my own deck of cards or will you bring your marked ones? ;-)

HEY! wayno, looks like your 401K is about to get topped up!!

Do I need to shop for food in advance or is there a place nearby that I can
get what I need?

The short answer is yes, the long one . . . . .

Do you plan dinner in groups or each and everyone to himself?

Be wary of any breakfast invitaions.

Whats lobster night? An excuse to get drunk?

The survivors congregate at the Millheim Hotel and consume vast
quantities of crustaceans.

What will the climate be like?

Wet

Lou, is it OK if I accept your offer on a sleeping bag and mattress?

That'll probably be the best offer all week. :)

I have a four piece rod Sage 490-4LL, will that cover my needs or do I bring
a heavier classed rod?

Perfect -- bring a spare if you plan on fishing in the vicinity of
Frank.

What will we be fishing for? (Brown trout, rainbow trout, cutthroat or
what?)

Some of us fish for browns and bows while others fish for carp. The
discerning anglers amongst us usually head at least once for brookie
country.

Anyone wish to buy something from Sweden? Loop reel or anything like that?


Good weather . . . .


(BTW, what's the price of a Loop Adapted set of heads for the 12'4"
8/9 Blue? I might go for a set.)


Peter

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"Peter Charles" wrote in message
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On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:42:31 +0100, "Roger Ohlund"
wrote:


(BTW, what's the price of a Loop Adapted set of heads for the 12'4"
8/9 Blue? I might go for a set.)


Peter

Well, Peter,

I'll find out, only problem is that the dollar is more or less dropping like
the notorious Frank Reid into water ;-) compared to the Swedish crown. So
I'm not all that sure it is the deal it would've been say ten months ago. On
the other hand I have REALLY good prices at the local fly shop AND they sell
Loop.

/Roger

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"asadi" wrote in message
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"Roger Ohlund"
wrote in message

the ticket is booked and paid for. With the connection flight it was US$
740.
Anyone wish to buy something from Sweden? Loop reel or anything like
that?

Hey wait a second, there is something. Here, if you go into a fly shop
and
buy just one or two flies you can also purchase a small plastic box with a
flip lid to keep the fly in. It will have the name of the fly shop on the
lid.

Is it possible you might be near such a fly shop that sells flied tied by
someone local? Could you also get the name of the tier? I'd 'really'
appreciate it and will pay for the things.

This I can do!

...how do you feel about evening church services?

The church I require most is a moment to myself in a lush river valley with
crystal clear water, crowded with trophy trout during a major hatch ;-)

/Roger

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.... you just might have a major religious experience!

john
"Roger Ohlund" wrote in message
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"asadi" wrote in message
...

"Roger Ohlund"
wrote in message

the ticket is booked and paid for. With the connection flight it was
US$
740.
Anyone wish to buy something from Sweden? Loop reel or anything like
that?

Hey wait a second, there is something. Here, if you go into a fly shop
and
buy just one or two flies you can also purchase a small plastic box with
a
flip lid to keep the fly in. It will have the name of the fly shop on
the
lid.

Is it possible you might be near such a fly shop that sells flied tied
by
someone local? Could you also get the name of the tier? I'd 'really'
appreciate it and will pay for the things.

This I can do!

...how do you feel about evening church services?

The church I require most is a moment to myself in a lush river valley
with
crystal clear water, crowded with trophy trout during a major hatch ;-)

/Roger

clavemeisters reply to Roger's questions
 

Roger(and first off, thanks for planning to become the farthest traveller ever
to the Penn's Creek diving club meet!!)

What are the waters that we fish? Small creek(s)? Big river?

Both are possible. Penn's itself is large,
up to 150 feet across in spots. All others are smaller, down to jump-across
trickles.

Any special flies that are a must?

not really, although you will be receiving
a few that may helpg.

Do I bring my own deck of cards or will you bring your marked ones? ;-)

answer should be obvious...just bring your
money.

Do I need to shop for food in advance or is there a place nearby that I can
get what I need?

there are grocery stores for most items save the unique gourmet things.

Do you plan dinner in groups or each and everyone to himself?

you will be housed, I believe, with a group that does to some extent plan
meals. Some of us fish most of the night, and grab either pizza, or whatever
the organized folks have left over.....

Whats lobster night? An excuse to get drunk?

well...yes. It is a group dinner at an overly elegantly named Millheim Hotel,
who serves Lobster Dinners en masse every other Thursday.

What will the climate be like?

I have been fishing the area every May for
15 or 16 years. I have seen everything from 85 degree(farenheit) days to snow
and sleet. Allow for layers of clothing.

Lou, is it OK if I accept your offer on a sleeping bag and mattress?

this is between you, and Lou....

I have a four piece rod Sage 490-4LL, will that cover my needs or do I bring
a heavier classed rod?

a 4 weight should do you ok. I do use a heavier rod(5/6 weight) for Penns. Some
the fish can get large, and Penn's trout are
very angry fighters.

What will we be fishing for?

Brown Trout and Inner Peace.

hope this helps
Tom

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Willi writes:
I MIGHT be wrong, but I believe that May
is a rainy time of year. The year I went, it literally rained every day

Willi was present for the worst year for heavy rain in nearly 20 years. May is
NOT, I repeat, NOT a typically raining month in PA(April often is, though). I
can remember several seasons with NO significant rain in May.
Tom

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Roger asks:
During the clave, will anyone be likely to fish the surounding waters?
(Pine, Elk, Big fishing and/or Spring creek?)
It would be nice to see more than one water.

I will be glad to personally escort you to Big Fishing Creek and Elk Creek.
Others noted(DavePA,etc) know Spring and the little Junianta well. Don't worry,
Roger, we will take care of you.
Tom

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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 10:08:02 GMT, "Roger Ohlund"
wrote:


"Peter Charles" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:42:31 +0100, "Roger Ohlund"
wrote:


(BTW, what's the price of a Loop Adapted set of heads for the 12'4"
8/9 Blue? I might go for a set.)


Peter

Well, Peter,

I'll find out, only problem is that the dollar is more or less dropping like
the notorious Frank Reid into water ;-) compared to the Swedish crown. So
I'm not all that sure it is the deal it would've been say ten months ago. On
the other hand I have REALLY good prices at the local fly shop AND they sell
Loop.

/Roger


The US dollar may be dropping, but not the Canadian one. :)))))

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Willi was present for the worst year for heavy rain in nearly 20 years.

True, that was exceptional. Not sure of the dates of the Clave that
year, but it rained 5.92 inches in May and 9.0 (!) inches in June.

May is NOT, I repeat, NOT a typically raining month in PA(April often is, though).

According to the data published daily in the CDT (local paper) by
AccuWeather, the 30-year average rainfall for the month of May is 3.70
inches.

Average for April, 3.16 inches. June, 4.28 inches.

Large standard deviations, of course.

As long as I'm looking stuff up, average high temps for the second
half of May rise from 69 to 73, F; average overnight lows, 48 to 53.

All those numbers are for State College, about 30 miles WSW of Coburn.
In this kind of mountainous terrain, both rainfall and temps can vary
a lot over relatively short distances.

vince

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Tom Littleton wrote:
Willi writes:

I MIGHT be wrong, but I believe that May
is a rainy time of year. The year I went, it literally rained every day


Willi was present for the worst year for heavy rain in nearly 20 years. May is
NOT, I repeat, NOT a typically raining month in PA(April often is, though). I
can remember several seasons with NO significant rain in May.
Tom


I know I got a distorted perspective when I was there, but according to
the weather station at State College, May is the wettest month of the year.

http://www.worldclimate.com/cgi-bin/...7+2200+368449C

Willi

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Tom Littleton wrote:


Brown Trout and Inner Peace.

well said.

wally

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On 10 Jan 2004 13:11:46 GMT, (Tom Littleton) wrote:

Brown Trout and Inner Peace.

How far in advance do you need to reserve a camp site around clave
central? If I come I'll be bringing a small trailer. Thanks.
--
Charlie...

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"Charlie Choc" wrote
How far in advance do you need to reserve a camp site around clave
central? If I come I'll be bringing a small trailer. Thanks.
--
Charlie...
IJ asks--small trailer?? hell Charlie havn't you named the terminator
mobile yet ? [ guys he carries two extra 20 gal cans of water- two extra 20
gal cans of gas---steps to a second floor bed - and calls it small ] If you
can get a couple of them yanks to help you put up the poles and cloth
covers you will need two camp sites.
Hope you can make it-- they spend lots of time fishing from the shore in the
evenings so even old men can join the fun.

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"Roger Ohlund" wrote in message
...

...how do you feel about evening church services?

The church I require most is a moment to myself in a lush river valley
with
crystal clear water, crowded with trophy trout during a major hatch ;-)

/Roger



....and you are correct!

Danl

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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:48:16 GMT, "Joe McIntosh"
wrote:

IJ asks--small trailer?? hell Charlie havn't you named the terminator
mobile yet ?

Maybe I should call it Arnold.

Hope you can make it-- they spend lots of time fishing from the shore in the
evenings so even old men can join the fun.

I hope so too. I'm planning on camping in the Keys with my family the
week before, so it depends on a combination of Penns weather and on
how much I feel like driving another 800 miles north. g
--
Charlie...

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i think you would enjoy penns. it's definitely different than the
strenuous pocket water hikes in the nc mountains and the wide-open
vistas of the west. easy access and big fish. if the weather
cooperates, the hatch alone is worth experiencing. standing in a run
watching huge browns rise and leap for the bugs is unforgettable. pretty
country. the amish make it an even more unique visit... if you need to
set up camp, and can't find another spot, there is probably yard space
at the swedish indian carolina cabin...

jeff

Charlie Choc wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:48:16 GMT, "Joe McIntosh"
wrote:


IJ asks--small trailer?? hell Charlie havn't you named the terminator
mobile yet ?


Maybe I should call it Arnold.


Hope you can make it-- they spend lots of time fishing from the shore in the
evenings so even old men can join the fun.


I hope so too. I'm planning on camping in the Keys with my family the
week before, so it depends on a combination of Penns weather and on
how much I feel like driving another 800 miles north. g

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Charlie asks:
How far in advance do you need to reserve a camp site around clave
central? If I come I'll be bringing a small trailer. Thanks.

for that, Charlie, you should basically be able to drive into the campground
and check in. Reservations would please the owners no doubt, but space
shouldn't be a problem that early in their season.
Tom