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sogs January 10th, 2004 03:48 AM

Who Makes LL Bean Rods?
 
Anyone know?

pw January 10th, 2004 03:57 AM

Who Makes LL Bean Rods?
 
Anyone know?

I thought the blanks used to be Loomis.

Paul Williamson
Livingston, MT
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thanks


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Wayne Knight January 10th, 2004 04:00 AM

Who Makes LL Bean Rods?
 

"sogs" wrote in message
...
Anyone know?


At one point, not too long ago, LL Bean Blanks were manufactored by Loomis
to Bean specifications and tapers. ie...they were not Loomis rods relabeled
as Bean rods.



sogs January 10th, 2004 04:05 AM

Who Makes LL Bean Rods?
 
On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 20:57:08 -0700, pw
wrote:

Thanks. I'm looking to buy a 9 weight for stripers & blues but I'm
not sure which company to buy yet. I don't want to spend a fortune.


Anyone know?


I thought the blanks used to be Loomis.

Paul Williamson
Livingston, MT
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thanks


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sogs January 10th, 2004 04:06 AM

Who Makes LL Bean Rods?
 
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 23:00:25 -0500, "Wayne Knight"
wrote:


Thanks. I'm looking to buy a 9 weight for stripers & blues but I'm
not sure which company to buy yet. I don't want to spend a fortune.



"sogs" wrote in message
.. .
Anyone know?


At one point, not too long ago, LL Bean Blanks were manufactored by Loomis
to Bean specifications and tapers. ie...they were not Loomis rods relabeled
as Bean rods.



Charlie Wilson January 10th, 2004 04:40 AM

Who Makes LL Bean Rods?
 

"sogs" wrote in message
...
Anyone know?


I have an LL Bean rod that was made by Edwards, however it's kind of old
and it has six sides.



Bill Kiene January 10th, 2004 07:07 AM

Who Makes LL Bean Rods?
 
Hi Sogs,

I actually supply L L Bean, Cabelas and Bass Pro Shop with all their house
brand fly rods.

I make them on the weekends at my secret under ground facility in Beijing,
China.

--
Bill Kiene-"spam me baby"

Kiene's Tofu Fly Rods, LLC "odorless & tasteless"
Beijing, China
www.kiene.com

"sogs" wrote in message
...

Anyone know?




Dave Martel January 10th, 2004 01:34 PM

Who Makes LL Bean Rods?
 
There's actually a misconception that's been going around for many years
about LL Bean rods. The *high end* rods are made by Loomis--true. But the
middle of the road rods were made (don't know if they still are or not) by
St. Croix. And the low-end rods are made in the Far East. Beans wants (for
obvious reasons) people to think that their rods are made by Loomis; but
many of them aren't. That, by the way, doesn't make them bad rods--just not
Loomis rods.

Dave M
"sogs" wrote in message
...
Anyone know?




sogs January 10th, 2004 08:46 PM

Who Makes LL Bean Rods?
 
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 23:00:25 -0500, "Wayne Knight"
wrote:

Thanks for the reply.

"sogs" wrote in message
.. .
Anyone know?


At one point, not too long ago, LL Bean Blanks were manufactored by Loomis
to Bean specifications and tapers. ie...they were not Loomis rods relabeled
as Bean rods.



Richard E. January 11th, 2004 12:36 AM

Who Makes LL Bean Rods?
 
"Dave Martel" skrev i melding
et...
There's actually a misconception that's been going around for many years
about LL Bean rods. The *high end* rods are made by Loomis--true. But the
middle of the road rods were made (don't know if they still are or not) by
St. Croix. And the low-end rods are made in the Far East. Beans wants (for
obvious reasons) people to think that their rods are made by Loomis; but
many of them aren't. That, by the way, doesn't make them bad rods--just

not
Loomis rods.

Dave M
"sogs" wrote in message
...
Anyone know?




My best buy ever fishing rod was a Kingfisher Black Habit #8-9 made in
Taiwan.
Baught it in 1982 and it still works fine.
As an extra bonus and to my surprise, the top fits perfect on my old (-92)
G.Loomis IMX 15' # 10-11, on which i broke the tip last year. Now the IMX
casts superbly with a #9 line.

- Richard
(from Northern Norway, the land of the Midnight Sun & Atlantic Salmon, and
pardon my English)



Warren January 11th, 2004 05:08 AM

Who Makes LL Bean Rods?
 
wrote...
At one point, not too long ago, LL Bean Blanks were manufactored by Loomis
to Bean specifications and tapers. ie...they were not Loomis rods relabeled
as Bean rods.


Some of you guys seem to know a lot about who is making who's rods.
I better rephrase that.... Some of you guys seem to know a lot about
who is manufacturing who's fly rods. (there, that's better g)

How about you guys posting a list of the ones you know? I would be
really interested in learning who the players are and if they are
merely relabled or made to a certain company's specs. Same goes for
blanks, if you know of any, as I am looking into building a rod in
the next few months (read: year).
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email)
For Conclave Info:
http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html

Kevin Vang January 11th, 2004 06:17 AM

Who Makes LL Bean Rods?
 
In article ,
says...

How about you guys posting a list of the ones you know? I would be
really interested in learning who the players are and if they are
merely relabled or made to a certain company's specs. Same goes for
blanks, if you know of any, as I am looking into building a rod in
the next few months (read: year).



I think Larry(?) Batson http://www.batsonenterprises.com/index.html
makes OEM blanks for a lot of small brands and custom builders.
I have heard a lot of good things about Batson's Rainshadow blanks.
The next blank I buy will probably be a Rainshadow. You can't beat
the price.

Incidently, Dan Craft is a retailer for Batson blanks, and he has
his own line of blanks. Don't know who actually makes them, but
I have heard rave reviews for the Sig. IV and V lines. I am
plugging Dan because I have done business with him before and
found him to be a nice guy who provides great service.
http://www.dancraftent.com/loadit.html No affiliation, etc.

Kevin

steve sullivan January 11th, 2004 06:21 AM

Who Makes LL Bean Rods?
 
In article ,
"Bill Kiene" wrote:

Hi Sogs,

I actually supply L L Bean, Cabelas and Bass Pro Shop with all their house
brand fly rods.

I make them on the weekends at my secret under ground facility in Beijing,
China.


You are fibbing, arent you?

steve sullivan January 11th, 2004 06:23 AM

Who Makes LL Bean Rods?
 
In article ,
sogs wrote:

On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 20:57:08 -0700, pw
wrote:

Thanks. I'm looking to buy a 9 weight for stripers & blues but I'm
not sure which company to buy yet. I don't want to spend a fortune.


Have you looked at tfo? They have a 9 weight for about $100. Orvis has
a new rod for around $100 too but I am not sure if they have one in a 9
weight.

Bill Kiene January 11th, 2004 09:24 AM

Who Makes LL Bean Rods?
 
Hi Steve,

Only kinding............

I know that Gary Loomis does make some for Cabelas.

With the Temple Fork Outfitters, Orvis, Redington and St.Croix low priced
rods ($59 and up) in our fly shop, we are selling fly rods to people that
would have normally bought from Cabelas, Bass Pro or LL Bean.

We are loving it.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA
www.kiene.com

"steve sullivan" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Bill Kiene" wrote:

Hi Sogs,

I actually supply L L Bean, Cabelas and Bass Pro Shop with all their

house
brand fly rods.

I make them on the weekends at my secret under ground facility in

Beijing,
China.


You are fibbing, arent you?




bouncer January 11th, 2004 03:39 PM

Who Makes LL Bean Rods?
 
I think Larry(?) Batson http://www.batsonenterprises.com/index.html
makes OEM blanks for a lot of small brands and custom builders.
I have heard a lot of good things about Batson's Rainshadow blanks.
The next blank I buy will probably be a Rainshadow. You can't beat
the price.


Custom Tackle Supply has last years Rainshadown blanks at 50%
off. I've never built one, but like you heard great things
about the blank. I decided to buy a few and build up a couple
rods for my niece and nephew and perhaps a travel rod for
myself. At roughly 16 a blank, it's hard to beat right now!

http://www.customtackle.com/


Incidently, Dan Craft is a retailer for Batson blanks, and he has
his own line of blanks. Don't know who actually makes them, but
I have heard rave reviews for the Sig. IV and V lines. I am
plugging Dan because I have done business with him before and
found him to be a nice guy who provides great service.
http://www.dancraftent.com/loadit.html No affiliation, etc.


I recently purchased a Dan Craft Sig V blank. Haven't built it
yet, but this blank is incredibly light. Dan is very helpful
and will get you started in the right direction. I've never
heard a bad thing about the Sig V blanks and it appears this is
currently one of the best bang for the bucks on the market.

Warren, a good source of info on rod building can be found at:
http://www.rodbuilding.org/ A number of sites have rod
building step by step instructions as well. Let me know if you
are looking for something in particular.

JR January 11th, 2004 04:36 PM

Who Makes LL Bean Rods?
 
Dave Martel wrote:

There's actually a misconception that's been going around for many years
about LL Bean rods. The *high end* rods are made by Loomis--true. But the
middle of the road rods were made (don't know if they still are or not) by
St. Croix. And the low-end rods are made in the Far East.


Only a matter of time until all American companies' graphite rods will
come from overseas:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3381273.stm

JR

George Cleveland January 11th, 2004 05:20 PM

Who Makes LL Bean Rods?
 
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 17:36:19 +0100, JR wrote:

Dave Martel wrote:

There's actually a misconception that's been going around for many years
about LL Bean rods. The *high end* rods are made by Loomis--true. But the
middle of the road rods were made (don't know if they still are or not) by
St. Croix. And the low-end rods are made in the Far East.


Only a matter of time until all American companies' graphite rods will
come from overseas:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3381273.stm

JR



Its pretty sad when it is seen as too expensive to pay $12 an hour to
workers. I'd like to see what Levi's executives make.

g.c.

Wolfgang January 11th, 2004 05:52 PM

Who Makes LL Bean Rods?
 

"George Cleveland" wrote in message
...


....I'd like to see what Levi's executives make.


Nothing that I would pay twelve dollars for.

Wolfgang
um.....well, i suppose they might make good compost.



George Cleveland January 11th, 2004 07:49 PM

Who Makes LL Bean Rods?
 
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 11:52:21 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:


"George Cleveland" wrote in message
...


....I'd like to see what Levi's executives make.


Nothing that I would pay twelve dollars for.

Wolfgang
um.....well, i suppose they might make good compost.


Levorganite?

g.c.

B J Conner January 11th, 2004 08:13 PM

Who Makes LL Bean Rods?
 
Levi is privately owned so there no way to tell. The poor ******* at
Abercrombie & Fitch only made 66.7 mill last year. How they get by on
that?.
http://www.aflcio.org/corporateamerica/paywatch/

"George Cleveland" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 17:36:19 +0100, JR wrote:

Dave Martel wrote:

There's actually a misconception that's been going around for many

years
about LL Bean rods. The *high end* rods are made by Loomis--true. But

the
middle of the road rods were made (don't know if they still are or not)

by
St. Croix. And the low-end rods are made in the Far East.


Only a matter of time until all American companies' graphite rods will
come from overseas:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3381273.stm

JR



Its pretty sad when it is seen as too expensive to pay $12 an hour to
workers. I'd like to see what Levi's executives make.

g.c.




Wolfgang January 11th, 2004 08:36 PM

Who Makes LL Bean Rods?
 

"George Cleveland" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 11:52:21 -0600, "Wolfgang" wrote:


"George Cleveland" wrote in message
...


....I'd like to see what Levi's executives make.


Nothing that I would pay twelve dollars for.

Wolfgang
um.....well, i suppose they might make good compost.


Levorganite?


Hm......good point. I don't suppose they'd be approved for organic
gardening.

Wolfgang




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