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George Cleveland September 21st, 2009 05:14 AM

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Until this Spring I regarded some fishermens' attachment to single
malt whisk(e)y with the bemused detachmentt I reserve for people who
have let themselves be drawn into the fashionable and trendy.
Peppermint schnapps, beer and Wild Turkey were good enough for me and
pish on all those swells who name dropped boozes with long names and
large price tags.

Then I was allowed to taste some quarter cask Lamphroaig in April
along with some ridiculously expensive 38 year Scotch. Oh oh.

I bought a bottle of 10 year old Lamphroaig a few months ago and have
consumed about 3/4 of it in that time. The other day I came across a
bottle of Irish 1995 Knappogue Castle single malt on sale, and while
different than the Lamphroaig, I found myself really liking that too.

So my question to the ROFFians here is what else is there that is
tasty and less than $50/bottle? Anyone have a favorite? Does this make
me another elite, snobbish, flyfishing poseur, the kind I used to pity
and mock? And how should I feel about that?


?

Geo. C.

Giles September 21st, 2009 11:53 AM

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On Sep 20, 11:14*pm, George Cleveland
wrote:

...So my question to the ROFFians here is what else is there that is
tasty and less than $50/bottle? Anyone have a favorite?


Can't help you with those questions. But if you get any good tips and
aren't able to find the stuff, I can probably get it here and send it
on up.

Does this make
me another elite, snobbish, flyfishing poseur, the kind I used to pity
and mock?


Well, no, not in and of itself.....but when you add in the silk tent
and curtains, the pretentious cars, the domestic staff and all the
rest.....

And how should I feel about that?


Deeply ashamed.

You going to Avalanche this year? Or did that already happen?

g.

Ken Fortenberry September 21st, 2009 02:09 PM

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George Cleveland wrote:
snip
So my question to the ROFFians here is what else is there that is
tasty and less than $50/bottle? Anyone have a favorite?


I like the Caol Ila 12 year old. It's an Islay single malt like
Laphroaig and Lagavulin but its peatiness is more understated
and mellow. Bowmore is another good Islay and closer to that
price point.

You could spend the rest of your life tasting all the Speyside
single malts. Aberlour, Cardhu, Macallan are all good Speyside
single malts. In the less expensive Speyside category I like
Knockando 12 year old and Balvenie Doublewood 12 year old.

Does this make
me another elite, snobbish, flyfishing poseur, the kind I used to pity
and mock?


But of course, old chap.

And how should I feel about that?


You should feel like lighting up a very nice Cuban cigar to
enjoy with that wee bit of the malt.

--
Ken Fortenberry

George Cleveland September 21st, 2009 02:09 PM

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On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 03:53:34 -0700 (PDT), Giles
wrote:

On Sep 20, 11:14*pm, George Cleveland
wrote:

...So my question to the ROFFians here is what else is there that is
tasty and less than $50/bottle? Anyone have a favorite?


Can't help you with those questions. But if you get any good tips and
aren't able to find the stuff, I can probably get it here and send it
on up.

Does this make
me another elite, snobbish, flyfishing poseur, the kind I used to pity
and mock?


Well, no, not in and of itself.....but when you add in the silk tent
and curtains, the pretentious cars, the domestic staff and all the
rest.....

And how should I feel about that?


Deeply ashamed.

You going to Avalanche this year? Or did that already happen?

g.

For the first time in 9 years we're skipping Avalanche. There isn't
anything 'official' planned but some of the Boyz are going to be there
next weekend and Jacci has to work. I'm going to miss a last go round
with the Kickapoo browns.

While it looks like work is going to kick into high gear soon I'm
still thinking about trying to make it to one of the Lake Michigan
feeders to try for stockers. Of course we'll need some rain first.
Nothing up here for 23 days.

Geo.

jeff September 22nd, 2009 01:47 AM

Single Malts
 
George Cleveland wrote:
Until this Spring I regarded some fishermens' attachment to single
malt whisk(e)y with the bemused detachmentt I reserve for people who
have let themselves be drawn into the fashionable and trendy.
Peppermint schnapps, beer and Wild Turkey were good enough for me and
pish on all those swells who name dropped boozes with long names and
large price tags.

Then I was allowed to taste some quarter cask Lamphroaig in April
along with some ridiculously expensive 38 year Scotch. Oh oh.

I bought a bottle of 10 year old Lamphroaig a few months ago and have
consumed about 3/4 of it in that time. The other day I came across a
bottle of Irish 1995 Knappogue Castle single malt on sale, and while
different than the Lamphroaig, I found myself really liking that too.

So my question to the ROFFians here is what else is there that is
tasty and less than $50/bottle? Anyone have a favorite? Does this make
me another elite, snobbish, flyfishing poseur, the kind I used to pity
and mock? And how should I feel about that?


?

Geo. C.


glenmorangie 18 yr, mccallan 18 yr... and forget the bucks...your boy
can wear that winter coat one more season and you'll be the warmer for it.

....and in answer to the last two questions... yes ...satisfied,
deserving, and charitable toward your friends in carolina.

jeff

Giles September 22nd, 2009 03:11 AM

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On Sep 21, 8:09*am, George Cleveland
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 03:53:34 -0700 (PDT), Giles
wrote:





On Sep 20, 11:14*pm, George Cleveland
wrote:


...So my question to the ROFFians here is what else is there that is
tasty and less than $50/bottle? Anyone have a favorite?


Can't help you with those questions. *But if you get any good tips and
aren't able to find the stuff, I can probably get it here and send it
on up.


Does this make
me another elite, snobbish, flyfishing poseur, the kind I used to pity
and mock?


Well, no, not in and of itself.....but when you add in the silk tent
and curtains, the pretentious cars, the domestic staff and all the
rest.....


And how should I feel about that?


Deeply ashamed.


You going to Avalanche this year? *Or did that already happen?


g.


*For the first time in 9 years we're skipping Avalanche. There isn't
anything 'official' planned but some of the Boyz are going to be there
next weekend and Jacci has to work. I'm going to miss a last go round
with the Kickapoo browns.


Oddly enough, I've gone by there several times in the past couple of
months.....on the way to and from a friend's place just outside of
Sparta. Didn't stop to fish, though.

While it looks like work is going to kick into high gear soon I'm
still thinking about trying to make it to one of the Lake Michigan
feeders to try for stockers.


Pale sport, if you ask me. But, yeah, it's something that has to be
done once in a while.

Of course we'll need some rain first.
Nothing up here for 23 days.


We got some showers here last night.....desperately needed and not
enough. Should borrow some from Georgia. Hm......ya s'pose old T-
Bone had the right idea after all? :)

g.

JR[_4_] September 23rd, 2009 05:31 PM

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jeff wrote:
George Cleveland wrote:
Until this Spring I regarded some fishermens' attachment to single
malt whisk(e)y .....


glenmorangie 18 yr, mccallan 18 yr... and forget the bucks...your boy
can wear that winter coat one more season and you'll be the warmer for it.

...and in answer to the last two questions... yes ...satisfied,
deserving, and charitable toward your friends in carolina.


Slightly tangential..... read today on Twitter:

"Teach a man to fish and he'll learn how to drink."

- JR



mr.rapidan September 23rd, 2009 06:16 PM

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tasty and less than $50/bottle? Anyone have a favorite? Does this make
me another elite, snobbish, flyfishing poseur, the kind I used to pity


You don't have to be snobby to realize that it's a heck of a lot
easier carrying 3 nights worth of single malt than 3 nights worth of
beer into the mountains on a flyfishing / backpacking trip. And it's
a nice feeling to cut the whisky with water from the stream you're
camping next to as you're sitting around in the glow of the candle
lanterns and shooting the breeze with your pals.

Denis Lamy[_2_] September 23rd, 2009 11:19 PM

Single Malts
 
George Cleveland a écrit :

I bought a bottle of 10 year old Lamphroaig a few months ago and have
consumed about 3/4 of it in that time. The other day I came across a
bottle of Irish 1995 Knappogue Castle single malt on sale, and while
different than the Lamphroaig, I found myself really liking that too.


I can't say what is available in your regional market, but here are some
good sites for you:
http://scotchsinglemalt.com/
http://www.scotchwhisky.net/

I do prefer Bowmore, GlenIllitch & GlenFidditch to Laphroig. The
peatiness of the Laphroig does not appeal that much to me.

Add a good cigar, preferably a Cubban cigar, and you're definitely on
the downslope to the dark side. ;-)

--
Hope to read you soon,

Denis
www.uqtr.ca/~lamyd

You'll have to eat the SPAM to E-mail

Frank Reid[_2_] September 23rd, 2009 11:27 PM

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"Teach a man to fish and he'll learn how to drink."


POTM!!! I think that's my new sig line!
Frank Reid

Giles September 24th, 2009 03:11 AM

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On Sep 23, 11:31*am, JR wrote:


"Teach a man to fish and he'll learn how to drink."


And the truth will not be in him.

g.

MajorOz September 24th, 2009 03:18 AM

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On Sep 23, 9:11*pm, Giles wrote:
On Sep 23, 11:31*am, JR wrote:

"Teach a man to fish and he'll learn how to drink."


And the truth will not be in him.


....or so deep that only his fellows can know.

cheers

oz, Caol Ila and Scapa fan (both from my Son, who gets to N.Sea oil
rigs on consulting trips now and then)

Giles September 24th, 2009 03:28 AM

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On Sep 23, 9:18*pm, MajorOz wrote:
On Sep 23, 9:11*pm, Giles wrote:

On Sep 23, 11:31*am, JR wrote:


"Teach a man to fish and he'll learn how to drink."


And the truth will not be in him.


...or so deep that only his fellows can know.


Yes, I remember some of those late night discussions......um.....or
feel like i ought to, anyway. :(

cheers


Prosit!

oz, Caol Ila and Scapa fan


I haven't the foggiest notion of what that means.....but I suspect
that it's at least marginally more complimentary than some of the
responses I get around here. :)

(both from my Son, who gets to N.Sea oil
rigs on consulting trips now and then)


Never been to the North Sea, but I've spent a bit of time in the North
Atlantic. Tell him to take care......as I'm sure he knows (as well as
you and I) it ain't as friendly as it is beautiful.


giles

MajorOz September 24th, 2009 08:23 PM

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On Sep 23, 9:28*pm, Giles wrote:
On Sep 23, 9:18*pm, MajorOz wrote:

On Sep 23, 9:11*pm, Giles wrote:


On Sep 23, 11:31*am, JR wrote:


"Teach a man to fish and he'll learn how to drink."


And the truth will not be in him.


...or so deep that only his fellows can know.


Yes, I remember some of those late night discussions......um.....or
feel like i ought to, anyway. * * *:(

cheers


Prosit!

oz, Caol Ila and Scapa fan


I haven't the foggiest notion of what that means.....but I suspect
that it's at least marginally more complimentary than some of the
responses I get around here. * * *:)


They are both lovely single malts.


(both from my Son, who gets to N.Sea oil
rigs on consulting trips now and then)


Never been to the North Sea, but I've spent a bit of time in the North
Atlantic. *Tell him to take care......as I'm sure he knows (as well as
you and I) it ain't as friendly as it is beautiful.


He flies in to .... somewhere on the coast and choppers out to the
rigs. He is an environmental consultant -- showing them what to fix
before some agency fines them zillions of dollars. On the way back he
buys (or gets from grateful clients) oodles of duty free booze. He
is mostly a vodka and tequila guy, so dad gets the good stuff.

And, yes, he adheres to dad's advice: "when in doubt, chicken out" and
stays on the ground when N Sea gets bitchy.

cheers

oz

Giles September 25th, 2009 02:42 AM

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On Sep 24, 2:23*pm, MajorOz wrote:
On Sep 23, 9:28*pm, Giles wrote:





On Sep 23, 9:18*pm, MajorOz wrote:


On Sep 23, 9:11*pm, Giles wrote:


On Sep 23, 11:31*am, JR wrote:


"Teach a man to fish and he'll learn how to drink."


And the truth will not be in him.


...or so deep that only his fellows can know.


Yes, I remember some of those late night discussions......um.....or
feel like i ought to, anyway. * * *:(


cheers


Prosit!


oz, Caol Ila and Scapa fan


I haven't the foggiest notion of what that means.....but I suspect
that it's at least marginally more complimentary than some of the
responses I get around here. * * *:)


They are both lovely single malts.



(both from my Son, who gets to N.Sea oil
rigs on consulting trips now and then)


Never been to the North Sea, but I've spent a bit of time in the North
Atlantic. *Tell him to take care......as I'm sure he knows (as well as
you and I) it ain't as friendly as it is beautiful.


He flies in to .... somewhere on the coast and choppers out to the
rigs.


One of the few great regrets in my life is that I never got to ride in
a helicopter while I was young and indifferent to mortality and now,
statistics be damned, I suspect that given the opportunity I'd wonder
about the advisibility of the venture. Oh, I'd go......there's no
question about that.....but not with the insouciance that would have
made it such an unmitigated and unattenuated joy half a century ago
when it WAS indisputably dangerous and irresponsible.

He is an environmental consultant -- showing them what to fix
before some agency fines them zillions of dollars.


I like that. It opens up all kinds of avenues for contemplation,
enquiry, discussion, rumination, etc. What a pity that these are all
dead hobbies.

On the way back he
buys (or gets from grateful clients) *oodles of duty free booze. *He
is mostly a vodka and tequila guy, so dad gets the good stuff.


Hm......well, between the tastes of per and fils, it seems unlikely
that a po boy in southeast Curdistan should be looking for the brown
truck to be showing up one of these first best days with a big bottle
of El Grito, I s'pose, I 'spect.....huh? :(

And yes, he adheres to dad's advice: "when in doubt, chicken out" and
stays on the ground when N Sea gets bitchy.


As a former English major ("follow the money" an old friend used to
tell me in response to just about anything that was said to him by
anyone), I appreciate both the rhyme and the sentiment. "He who
fights and runs away, lives to fight another day" is a more familiar
expression, I think, which, to the casual observer expressses
something of the same sentiment. Personally, I've always thought that
he who runs away in the first place, and stays that way, renders the
rest moot.

cheers


Back at ya.

g.

[email protected] September 26th, 2009 04:30 AM

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On Sep 21, 12:14*am, George Cleveland
wrote:


I bought a bottle of 10 year old Lamphroaig a few months ago and have
consumed about 3/4 of it in that time. The other day I came across a
bottle of Irish 1995 Knappogue Castle single malt on sale, and while
different than the Lamphroaig, I found myself really liking that too.

So my question to the ROFFians here is what else is there that is
tasty and less than $50/bottle? Anyone have a favorite?


The Knappogue Castle is an Irish Single Malt WhiskEy while Laphroaig
is a Single Malt Scotch Whisky (no "e"). There are distinct
differences between the two other than the insertion of the vowel
before the "y".

The malts of Scotland are distilled in different areas of the country
and have distinct characteristics.

Glenn Livet, Glenn Farclais, even the macallan 10 and 12 year olds are
kind of the "entry" level malts in that one or the other is carried by
most any restaurant or bar and in your local mart's liquor sections.

In the 10-15 year pairings I am partial to the following in order -
Highland Park 12, Bunnahabhan, Bruichladdich, and Glenn Rothes. But if
you one remembers the simple rule that there is no such thing as a bad
single malt whisky, they should all be sufficient for your growing
interests. BTW, I had the Bunnahabhan when we met up at the cabin in
the UP and John took a particular liking to it. Tow other lower priced
malts i can recommend are the Arbelor and the Glen Moray.

Does this make me another elite, snobbish, flyfishing poseur, the kind I used to
pity and mock? And how should I feel about that?


Never understood the pity and mock thing but you should feel ashamed
for it and lucky that you have the opportunity now to make up for past
transgressions AND that you have people out there who have no problem
helping you dislocate the green stuff from your wallet.


[email protected] September 26th, 2009 03:05 PM

Single Malts
 
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:30:49 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Sep 21, 12:14*am, George Cleveland
wrote:


I bought a bottle of 10 year old Lamphroaig a few months ago and have
consumed about 3/4 of it in that time. The other day I came across a
bottle of Irish 1995 Knappogue Castle single malt on sale, and while
different than the Lamphroaig, I found myself really liking that too.

So my question to the ROFFians here is what else is there that is
tasty and less than $50/bottle? Anyone have a favorite?


The Knappogue Castle is an Irish Single Malt WhiskEy while Laphroaig
is a Single Malt Scotch Whisky (no "e"). There are distinct
differences between the two other than the insertion of the vowel
before the "y".

The malts of Scotland are distilled in different areas of the country
and have distinct characteristics.

Glenn Livet, Glenn Farclais, even the macallan 10 and 12 year olds are
kind of the "entry" level malts in that one or the other is carried by
most any restaurant or bar and in your local mart's liquor sections.


Howsabout Glenn Frey and Glenn Close...? Most seem to be comme ci comme ca on
those...but be careful with Glenn Beck - from what I hear, you'll either become
an instant rabid fan or violently ill...

In the 10-15 year pairings I am partial to the following in order -
Highland Park 12, Bunnahabhan, Bruichladdich, and Glenn Rothes. But if
you one remembers the simple rule that there is no such thing as a bad
single malt whisky, they should all be sufficient for your growing
interests. BTW, I had the Bunnahabhan when we met up at the cabin in
the UP and John took a particular liking to it. Tow other lower priced
malts i can recommend are the Arbelor and the Glen Moray.


Um..."Arbelor"...? A favorite of gardeners and morticians...?

Does this make me another elite, snobbish, flyfishing poseur, the kind I used to
pity and mock? And how should I feel about that?


Write down "Glenn Livet" and "Arbelor" on a piece of paper. Go to the fanciest,
snobbiest whisky purveyor in your general area. Hand it to the manager and say
you'd like those.

Never understood the pity and mock thing but you should feel ashamed
for it and lucky that you have the opportunity now to make up for past
transgressions AND that you have people out there who have no problem
helping you dislocate the green stuff from your wallet.


Seriously, though, Wayne does know his whisky and offers some good
suggestions...apparently, however, he might have been...um...doing some
testing... prior to posting...

About the least-expensive single malt I know of is the McClelland's line. It
is/was (I'm not sure what it'd be with the dollar) under $30USD a liter. They
have one from each of the regions. Some like one or more of them, some don't
like any, but no one AFAIK claims it's anything more than what it is -
inexpensive, young whisky. I have no idea whether you'd like any of them, but
trying them won't be too expensive. And if you also like scotch mixed drinks,
there's an place to use what you don't like neat.

IAC, whisky is pretty subjective, so what I might think is great, you might
think is not. I don't think I've ever even heard of a whisky that is
universally agreed to be perfect on all counts. In fact, I don't think I've
even heard of one that even _most_ agree is "great" on all counts - it's just so
subjective.

If you're trying to educate your palate and don't have a
knowledgeable source to turn (in person), I'd start trying various bottlings,
reading up, attending tastings, etc. If all you want to do is find a whisky you
like and stick with it, just find a bar with a pretty good selection of "the
main suspects" of commonly-available, under-$50 bottle whiskies. Darned few
whisky drinkers (at least "normal" ones) would say most of the common "Glens,"
Highland Park, etc. are "bad," and Aberlour has, IIRC, a couple of under-$50
bottlings. Of the "commons," Highland Park is a (generally) highly-rated
choice, if that means anything.

Another thing to _possibly_ consider, if you plan on "adopting" a "go-to" and
drinking that choice "out" much - Glenlivet and the like are going to be
_significantly_ less across-the-board and in relation to the cost per bottle
than some of the more expensive or just uncommon choices (uncommon as to being
ordered in all bars, rather than "uncommon" as to whisky). IME, if a given
booze is common, the markup is proportionally less and/or priced more in-line
with its actual cost - for example, Glenlivet might be just another "call" or
"premium," but Laphroaig and Lagavulin might be "menu" items, so that Glenlivet,
etc., is, say, $6.00 and the leapfrog and Lagavulin $12.00 and $15.00. Some
places that cater to a whisky crown do tend to price according to actual cost,
but most don't, IME.

TC,
R

jeff September 27th, 2009 12:21 AM

Single Malts
 
wrote: Some
places that cater to a whisky crown do tend to price according to actual cost,
but most don't, IME.

TC,
R


snowbird lodge...graham county, nc...glenmorangie 18 yr...$18 a
glass...and, as best i recall, well worth it. just ask to be shown to
jeffie's tasting room...terrific view

Giles September 27th, 2009 02:01 AM

Single Malts
 
On Sep 26, 9:05*am, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:30:49 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Sep 21, 12:14*am, George Cleveland
wrote:


I bought a bottle of 10 year old Lamphroaig a few months ago and have
consumed about 3/4 of it in that time. The other day I came across a
bottle of Irish 1995 Knappogue Castle single malt on sale, and while
different than the Lamphroaig, I found myself really liking that too.


So my question to the ROFFians here is what else is there that is
tasty and less than $50/bottle? Anyone have a favorite?


The Knappogue Castle is an Irish Single Malt WhiskEy while Laphroaig
is a Single Malt Scotch Whisky (no "e"). There are distinct
differences between the two other than the insertion of the vowel
before the "y".


The malts of Scotland are distilled in different areas of the country
and have distinct characteristics.


Glenn Livet, Glenn Farclais, even the macallan 10 and 12 year olds are
kind of the "entry" level malts in that one or the other is carried by
most any restaurant or bar and in your local mart's liquor sections.


Howsabout Glenn Frey and Glenn Close...? *Most seem to be comme ci comme ca on
those...but be careful with Glenn Beck - from what I hear, you'll either become
an instant rabid fan or violently ill...

In the 10-15 year pairings I am partial to the following in order -
Highland Park 12, Bunnahabhan, Bruichladdich, and Glenn Rothes. But if
you one remembers the simple rule that there is no such thing as a bad
single malt whisky, they should all be sufficient for your growing
interests. BTW, I had the Bunnahabhan when we met up at the cabin in
the UP and John took a particular liking to it. Tow other lower priced
malts i can recommend are the Arbelor and the Glen Moray.


Um..."Arbelor"...? *A favorite of gardeners and morticians...?



Does this make *me another elite, snobbish, flyfishing poseur, the kind I used to
pity and mock? And how should I feel about that?


Write down "Glenn Livet" and "Arbelor" on a piece of paper. *Go to the fanciest,
snobbiest whisky purveyor in your general area. *Hand it to the manager and say
you'd like those. *



Never understood the pity and mock thing but you should feel ashamed
for it and lucky that you have the opportunity now to make up for past
transgressions AND that you have people out there who have no problem
helping you dislocate the green stuff from your wallet.


Seriously, though, Wayne does know his whisky and offers some good
suggestions...apparently, however, he might have been...um...doing some
testing... prior to posting...

About the least-expensive single malt I know of is the McClelland's line. *It
is/was (I'm not sure what it'd be with the dollar) under $30USD a liter. *They
have one from each of the regions. *Some like one or more of them, some don't
like any, but no one AFAIK claims it's anything more than what it is -
inexpensive, young whisky. *I have no idea whether you'd like any of them, but
trying them won't be too expensive. *And if you also like scotch mixed drinks,
there's an place to use what you don't like neat.

IAC, whisky is pretty subjective, so what I might think is great, you might
think is not. *I don't think I've ever even heard of a whisky that is
universally agreed to be perfect on all counts. *In fact, I don't think I've
even heard of one that even _most_ agree is "great" on all counts - it's just so
subjective.

If you're trying to educate your palate and don't have a
knowledgeable source to turn (in person), I'd start trying various bottlings,
reading up, attending tastings, etc. *If all you want to do is find a whisky you
like and stick with it, just find a bar with a pretty good selection of "the
main suspects" of commonly-available, under-$50 bottle whiskies. *Darned few
whisky drinkers (at least "normal" ones) would say most of the common "Glens,"
Highland Park, etc. are "bad," and Aberlour has, IIRC, a couple of under-$50
bottlings. *Of the "commons," Highland Park is a (generally) highly-rated
choice, if that means anything. *

Another thing to _possibly_ consider, if you plan on "adopting" a "go-to" and
drinking that choice "out" much - Glenlivet and the like are going to be
_significantly_ less across-the-board and in relation to the cost per bottle
than some of the more expensive or just uncommon choices (uncommon as to being
ordered in all bars, rather than "uncommon" as to whisky). *IME, if a given
booze is common, the markup is proportionally less and/or priced more in-line
with its actual cost - for example, Glenlivet might be just another "call" or
"premium," but Laphroaig and Lagavulin might be "menu" items, so that Glenlivet,
etc., is, say, $6.00 and the leapfrog and Lagavulin $12.00 and $15.00. *Some
places that cater to a whisky crown do tend to price according to actual cost,
but most don't, IME.



Hm.....so, try some. You'll maybe like some and maybe not some
others. And the cheap ones cost less than the expensive ones. And the
common ones appear to be more common than the not so common ones.
Well......gosh.....who'da thunk it?

Imbecile.

g.


riverman September 27th, 2009 01:22 PM

Single Malts
 
On Sep 26, 10:05*pm, wrote:


In the 10-15 year pairings I am partial to the following in order -
Highland Park 12,


I'm surprised no one picked up on this... :-)

--riverman

riverman September 27th, 2009 01:36 PM

Single Malts
 
On Sep 21, 12:14*pm, George Cleveland
wrote:


So my question to the ROFFians here is what else is there that is
tasty and less than $50/bottle? Anyone have a favorite? Does this make
me another elite, snobbish, flyfishing poseur, the kind I used to pity
and mock? And how should I feel about that?


Geo. C. *


Plenty have gone before me, Geo. but there are a LOT of whiskys for
less than $50 a bottle. I'd suggest, without becoming too elitist or
snobbish, just cruise your local duty free next time you fly, and take
a chance. Some of my favorite bottles, before I got inexorably and
inevitably tangled up in name recognition and Jackson's Whisky Book
ratings, were products of unknown little mock distilleries.

It might be easier to ask what is worth avoiding rather than what's
worth targeting...the list is considerably shorter. As a whisky
beginner, I'd avoid any of the peatier Islays (BTW, if your talking to
the seller, its pronounced "EYE-luh", not "eye-LAY"). That includes
some well-bantered brands such as Lagavulin, Laphroaig, Bowmore,
Bruichladdich, Bunnahabhain and Coal Ila. These are excellent brands,
but unless your palate is ready for the salt and peat, they might have
too much character for you. Of course, I could be entirely wrong...try
a few drams and see if they appeal to you. My own palate wanders
around fiercely, but if I were to have only one bottle on the shelf,
it would not be an Islay.

My suggestion: start with a least-pricey Speyside or Highland. These
tend to be more 'feathery' and easier to drink, especially when cut
with cold water (the distillers suggest 1:1, although that seems to be
a bit watered down for me: I tend to cut it to 1 part water to 3 parts
whisky.

Again, the only criteria...beyond price, beyond name recognition, and
beyond snob factor....is if you like it. And if you find yourself
acquiring several bottles of under-$50 whisky that you picked up and
really were not enamored with, then consider that you are merely
stocking your cabinet for a later time when your tastes change.

YMMV, of course.

--riverman

[email protected] September 27th, 2009 01:38 PM

Single Malts
 
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:22:31 -0700 (PDT), riverman wrote:

On Sep 26, 10:05*pm, wrote:


In the 10-15 year pairings I am partial to the following in order -
Highland Park 12,


I'm surprised no one picked up on this... :-)


Um, well, for one thing, I didn't write any such thing for anyone to "pick
up"...

HTH,
R

--riverman


riverman September 27th, 2009 01:53 PM

Single Malts
 
On Sep 27, 8:38*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:22:31 -0700 (PDT), riverman wrote:
On Sep 26, 10:05*pm, wrote:


In the 10-15 year pairings I am partial to the following in order -
Highland Park 12,


I'm surprised no one picked up on this... :-)


Um, well, for one thing, I didn't write any such thing for anyone to "pick
up"...

HTH,
R



--riverman


Yeah, chalk that up to lazy editing. My bad...it wasn't you who said
that. You were just unlucky enough to be on the first line of the
source tags.

Still, you missed an easy one. :-)

--riverman

Giles September 28th, 2009 04:04 AM

Single Malts
 
On Sep 27, 7:36*am, riverman wrote:
On Sep 21, 12:14*pm, George Cleveland
wrote:



So my question to the ROFFians here is what else is there that is
tasty and less than $50/bottle? Anyone have a favorite? Does this make
me another elite, snobbish, flyfishing poseur, the kind I used to pity
and mock? And how should I feel about that?
Geo. C. *


Plenty have gone before me, Geo. but there are a LOT of whiskys for
less than $50 a bottle. I'd suggest, without becoming too elitist or
snobbish, just cruise your local duty free next time you fly, and take
a chance. Some of my favorite bottles, before I got inexorably and
inevitably tangled up in name recognition and Jackson's Whisky Book
ratings, were products of unknown little mock distilleries.

It might be easier to ask what is worth avoiding rather than what's
worth targeting...the list is considerably shorter. As a whisky
beginner, I'd avoid any of the peatier Islays (BTW, if your talking to
the seller, its pronounced "EYE-luh", not "eye-LAY"). That includes
some well-bantered brands such as Lagavulin, Laphroaig, Bowmore,
Bruichladdich, Bunnahabhain and Coal Ila. These are excellent brands,
but unless your palate is ready for the salt and peat, they might have
too much character for you. Of course, I could be entirely wrong...try
a few drams and see if they appeal to you. My own palate wanders
around fiercely, but if I were to have only one bottle on the shelf,
it would not be an Islay.

My suggestion: start with a least-pricey Speyside or Highland. These
tend to be more 'feathery' and easier to drink, especially when cut
with cold water (the distillers suggest 1:1, although that seems to be
a bit watered down for me: I tend to cut it to 1 part water to 3 parts
whisky.

Again, the only criteria...beyond price, beyond name recognition, and
beyond snob factor....is if you like it. And if you find yourself
acquiring several bottles of under-$50 whisky that you picked up and
really were not enamored with, then consider that you are merely
stocking your cabinet for a later time when your tastes change.

YMMV, of course.

--riverman


I've heard that a boy can get some pretty good fares from Tomah to
Black River Falls these days.

g.
course, that's prolly just hearsay.

Nogood Boyo[_2_] September 29th, 2009 12:11 AM

Single Malts
 
On 26 Sep, 04:30, wrote:
On Sep 21, 12:14*am, George Cleveland
wrote:

So my question to the ROFFians here is what else is there that is
tasty and less than $50/bottle? Anyone have a favorite?


The Knappogue Castle is an Irish Single Malt WhiskEy while Laphroaig
is a Single Malt Scotch Whisky (no "e"). There are distinct
differences between the two other than the insertion of the vowel
before the "y".

The malts of Scotland are distilled in different areas of the country
and have distinct characteristics.

In case you haven't heard, there's now a Welsh whisky, a single malt
called Penderyn, to go with the Scotch and the Irish. Details at
www.welsh-whisky.co.uk. No "e". Described as "dangerously
smooth"... Limited supply, so probably more than $50 a bottle. It's
about £30 in the UK.
--
Nogood Boyo

[email protected] September 29th, 2009 03:12 AM

Single Malts
 
On Sep 28, 7:11*pm, Nogood Boyo wrote:

In case you haven't heard, there's now a Welsh whisky, a single malt
called Penderyn, to go with the Scotch and the Irish. *Details atwww.welsh-whisky.co.uk. *No "e". *Described as "dangerously
smooth"... *Limited supply, so probably more than $50 a bottle. *It's
about £30 in the UK.


79.99 at Sam's Wine and Spirits in Chicago (no relation to Sam's Club)



rw September 29th, 2009 04:25 AM

Single Malts
 
wrote:
On Sep 28, 7:11 pm, Nogood Boyo wrote:


In case you haven't heard, there's now a Welsh whisky, a single malt
called Penderyn, to go with the Scotch and the Irish. Details atwww.welsh-whisky.co.uk. No "e". Described as "dangerously
smooth"... Limited supply, so probably more than $50 a bottle. It's
about £30 in the UK.



79.99 at Sam's Wine and Spirits in Chicago (no relation to Sam's Club)



Hmmm. £30 should be about $48 (@ 1 GBP = $1.59 USD). Sam's Wine and
Spirits in Chicago, and maybe Uncle Sam or the State of Illinois or the
city of Chicago, are taking a nice 67% cut off retail in the UK.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[email protected] September 29th, 2009 01:08 PM

Single Malts
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:25:37 -0600, rw wrote:

wrote:
On Sep 28, 7:11 pm, Nogood Boyo wrote:


In case you haven't heard, there's now a Welsh whisky, a single malt
called Penderyn, to go with the Scotch and the Irish. Details atwww.welsh-whisky.co.uk. No "e". Described as "dangerously
smooth"... Limited supply, so probably more than $50 a bottle. It's
about £30 in the UK.



79.99 at Sam's Wine and Spirits in Chicago (no relation to Sam's Club)



Hmmm. £30 should be about $48 (@ 1 GBP = $1.59 USD). Sam's Wine and
Spirits in Chicago, and maybe Uncle Sam or the State of Illinois or the
city of Chicago, are taking a nice 67% cut off retail in the UK.


THAT'S OUTRAGEOUS!! Especially after the good folks at FedEx shipped it over to
Chicago for free, the payment methods involved were gracious enough to exchange
with commission, the local distributor waived their commission, etc., etc., etc.

HTH,
R
....OTOH, it's probably yet another crooked Illernoise pol trying to raise cash
to buy a Senate seat or something...

Nogood Boyo[_2_] October 1st, 2009 11:57 PM

Single Malts
 
On 29 Sep, 04:25, rw wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 28, 7:11 pm, Nogood Boyo wrote:


In case you haven't heard, there's now a Welsh whisky, a single malt
called Penderyn, to go with the Scotch and the Irish. *Details atwww.welsh-whisky.co.uk. *No "e". *Described as "dangerously
smooth"... *Limited supply, so probably more than $50 a bottle. *It's
about £30 in the UK.


79.99 at Sam's Wine and Spirits in Chicago (no relation to Sam's Club)


Hmmm. £30 should be about $48 (@ 1 GBP = $1.59 USD). *Sam's Wine and
Spirits in Chicago, and maybe Uncle Sam or the State of Illinois or the
city of Chicago, are taking a nice 67% cut off retail in the UK.

I should have mentioned that £30 retail in the UK includes excise duty
and sales tax (VAT), which wouldn't apply to exports. The UK retail
price excluding duty and VAT would be about £20. Cheap whisky in the
UK is about £10, inc duty and taxes (70cl).
--
Nogood Boyo


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