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A long time ago a good fishing friend had a Springer Spaniel -
Real cute - loved the water- and she knew her place perfectly as ballast for
a canoe.
We fished Squam Lake in NH
The three of us in the canoe - the dog was up front Gary in the rear and me
in the middle - just paddes
Salmon - we got a few

So
Just thinking of a resucue dog Brittany or Springer Spaniel...
.............

All of our animals are real happy and friendly so... I do not want to upset
that

Has anyone had experience or ever have one of these cute critters?
And more to the point has anyone gone fishing with one?

Thanks
Fred

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"Fred" wrote in message
...
A long time ago a good fishing friend had a Springer Spaniel -
Real cute - loved the water- and she knew her place perfectly as ballast
for
a canoe.
We fished Squam Lake in NH
The three of us in the canoe - the dog was up front Gary in the rear and
me
in the middle - just paddes
Salmon - we got a few

So
Just thinking of a resucue dog Brittany or Springer Spaniel...
............

All of our animals are real happy and friendly so... I do not want to
upset
that

Has anyone had experience or ever have one of these cute critters?
And more to the point has anyone gone fishing with one?

Thanks
Fred

A suppose a Newfoundland is too big - but a great resuce dog.

In Swansea, Wales there was a famous character - "Swansea Jack" - a black
Labrador dog, who reputedly rescued several people who had fallen into the
dock. So much so is his fame that there is a statue to his memory in
Swansea.

Bill

See:- http://www.cymfishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=2161

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On Jan 24, 2:23*pm, "Bill Grey" wrote:
"Fred" wrote in message

...





A long time ago a good fishing friend had a Springer Spaniel -
Real cute - loved the water- and she knew her place perfectly as ballast
for
a canoe.
We fished Squam Lake in NH
The three of us in the canoe - the dog was up front Gary in the rear and
me
in the middle - just paddes
Salmon - we *got a few

So
Just thinking of a resucue dog Brittany or Springer Spaniel...
............

All of our animals are real happy and friendly so... I do not want to
upset
that

Has anyone had experience or ever have one of these cute critters?
And more to the point has anyone gone fishing with one?

Thanks
Fred

A suppose a Newfoundland is too big - but a great resuce dog.

In *Swansea, Wales there was a famous character - "Swansea Jack" - a black
Labrador dog, who reputedly rescued several people who had fallen into the
dock. *So much so is his fame that there is a statue to his memory in
Swansea.

Bill

See:- *http://www.cymfishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=2161

I'm afraid, Bill, that "rescue dog" has a different meaning here than
there. Here, it usually means that the person rescues the dog, not
vice versa. Whether Fred intended it that way I'm not sure, but I
expect he did.

As someone once said, we're two countries separated by a common
language.

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On 24-Jan-2010, " wrote:

I'm afraid, Bill, that "rescue dog" has a different meaning here than
there. Here, it usually means that the person rescues the dog, not
vice versa. Whether Fred intended it that way I'm not sure, but I
expect he did.

Thanks for the clarification and rw is correct - We would give a home to a
distressed animal
So we would rescue the dog
and give a good home w 6 other dogs in the pack running loose all the time

Fred

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"Fred" wrote in message
...
A long time ago a good fishing friend had a Springer Spaniel -
Real cute - loved the water- and she knew her place perfectly as ballast
for
a canoe.
We fished Squam Lake in NH
The three of us in the canoe - the dog was up front Gary in the rear and
me
in the middle - just paddes
Salmon - we got a few

So
Just thinking of a resucue dog Brittany or Springer Spaniel...
............

All of our animals are real happy and friendly so... I do not want to
upset
that

Has anyone had experience or ever have one of these cute critters?
And more to the point has anyone gone fishing with one?

Thanks
Fred

Hi Fred,
Our first dog was a Collie cross Border Collie. Indi was her name and she
was treated as part of the family... slept inside, ate good food, loved
chocolate, etc. Drew the line at her pinching the roast beef tho.

We used to take her every where - even on our honeymoon in a pretty country
town where incidentally the rivers held a good stock of wild trout! For the
best part Indi was well behaved - on the leash walking, sitting quietly as
we enjoyed a meal at a sidewalk cafe, all was good.

Indi loved the water, hail, rain or shine. She'd even retrieve sodden
sticks that sank to the bottom of the stream. We all had a ball and she'd be
yelping and prancing and always be reluctant to leave.

Here's one story.
We decided to have a romantic picnic by the river, set up the blanket, food,
etc. Enjoying our time together. After an acceptable time with the Missus I
got the spinning rod and she(Indi, not the Missus) thought all her
Christmases came at once! She chased every cast, couldn't even fool her with
a false cast and the cast in the opposite direction. Gave up casting in the
pools and went to try the faster water thinking she'd have enough sense not
to jump in. Hmmmmm, she did have alot of blonde fur, the playful yelps
suddenly stopped and she gave me one of those "Oh-ohh" looks as she was
carried down stream at a great rate of knots. The Missus was in a panic (to
this day I'm still not sure how, but it was my fault.), dropped my rod, ran
down stream catching up to her then passing her but running out of bank,
crossed the river, filling my thigh waders, turned round, took the Sumo
Wrestler stance and plucked her out before she went down a big rough
stretch.

We got back to the car ok. As the Missus was still reeling from the shock of
it all telling me how dangerous that was and how irresponsible I was etc,
Indi was ready to go again bringing sticks to throw and my thoughts started
to wander (as they do) - it was then that I realised Indi may not be the
best fishing companion.

Indi lived to a ripe old age of 15 and was a great old pooch.

Rob.

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On 25-Jan-2010, "Robert from Oz" wrote:

Our first dog was a Collie cross Border Collie. Indi was her name


Thanks
We have a border collie now - Tweed
A smart helpful, cute, faithful, loving and wonderful dog and part of our
family and "pack"
He is great w our horses but I do not want to take him off our property
He has his borders .

Fred

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On Jan 24, 2:03*pm, "Fred" wrote:

Has anyone had experience or ever have one of these cute critters?
And more to the point has anyone gone fishing with one?

Only with one, our brittany. I couldn't imagine a spaniel upsetting a
well adjusted pack unless it has serious issues itself (always a
possibility with a rescue dog). If I was bank fishing with our
brittany I'd be spending all of my time making sure she didn't wander
off, not fishing. They are hunters and like to take off hunting (and
I'm no Larry and don't have the time nor desire to have a super-
trained dog; ours are family pets, no more). She's pretty old now but
still has about a square half-mile of desert she likes to patrol when
I let her out (every day). She has slowed down alot and would, I
think, make a nice boat dog now (I'll try this year) and would
probably even stay by me if I was bank fishing.

Jon.
PS: sunny and close to 60 today but still snow on the mountains
outside of town, from the big storm last week that hit LA then AZ then
us.

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On Jan 24, 1:03*pm, "Fred" wrote:

Just thinking of a resucue dog Brittany or Springer Spaniel...


No generalization being worth a damn ...

in general

you will find Brittanies pretty damn 'hyper' and nervous, compared to
a classic Springer's more 'laid back' attitude

that is, again, in general

Although both have "spaniel' in the name, they were developed for very
different hunting styles and that is reflected in overall temperament

FWIW, ( next to nothing ) Springer's are one of my favorite breeds
and you couldn't give me a Brittany


One other note ... unless specifically trained otherwise ... any dog
will very likely increase you danger if you capsize your boat. By
nature they are far more likely to try and climb on you and make your
struggles more difficult than to pull you to safety, Lassie/Disney
Movie style

Larry ( who has known and tried to train several examples of both
breeds, over the last 40+ years, and who has heard several pretty
scary tales of trying to swim with the dog, and been in one such
situation, himself )

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"Fred" wrote in message
...
A long time ago a good fishing friend had a Springer Spaniel -
Real cute - loved the water- and she knew her place perfectly as ballast
for
a canoe.
We fished Squam Lake in NH
The three of us in the canoe - the dog was up front Gary in the rear and
me
in the middle - just paddes
Salmon - we got a few

So
Just thinking of a resucue dog Brittany or Springer Spaniel...
............

All of our animals are real happy and friendly so... I do not want to
upset
that

Has anyone had experience or ever have one of these cute critters?
And more to the point has anyone gone fishing with one?

Thanks
Fred

Fred,
My best advise is to forget a particular breed and go with the hound you
like best at the local animal control shelter. I got Bear for mother, after
I had to put down the love of my life for twelve years--Beau-re-Guard the
Wonder Hound. Beau was a shepherd/husky mix and a joy to hang with. Bear is
a 115 lb. Gernam Shepherd that was rescued from a Meth Lab. Bear was tied to
a deck and neglected fro approx. 2 years, before he came to live with
mother. He would run away from me when we first got him, but he and I went
thru Lenoir Police Dept.'s Citizen Canine Training for 8 weeks and now I am
the Alph male and Bear's personal driver, so we are best buddies. Bear goes
on virtually every campin' and fishin' I take, unless I know the stream
conditions will be a danger to Bear. He can be a danger to himself, because
he **must** be at my side at all times, when we are in the stream. He will
jump from the largest boulder to get to where I am, if he cannot follow the
same path that I have taken.

The only thing you have to do to make a great fishin' hound is to make him
your bestest buddy everyday! He will kill him/herself to stay by your side,
if he or she respects you as a leader. Just watch a few episodes of the Dog
Whisperer--Ceasar Milan to get the picture.

Jeff Miller can attest to Bear's love of fishin' trips and his loyalty to
me. He is by far the best fishin' hound on the face of the planet--bar none!

Op

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On Jan 25, 3:02*pm, "Mark Bowen" wrote:

Fred,
My best advise is to forget a particular breed and go with the hound you
like best at the local animal control shelter.


Excellent advice ..... dogs and humans often get along, or don't,
in much the same way as human friends .... Often those of us on the
outside can't understand what they see in their choices, but it works
for them

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On 25-Jan-2010, Larry L wrote:

ou will find Brittanies pretty damn 'hyper' and nervous, compared to
a classic Springer's more 'laid back' attitude

that is, again, in general

Although both have "spaniel' in the name, they were developed for very
different hunting styles and that is reflected in overall temperament

FWIW, ( next to nothing ) Springer's are one of my favorite breeds
and you couldn't give me a Brittany



Thanks all who responded.

Larry-
This is good advice - just what I wanted to know

Thanks
Fred


I have seen pictures of Bear and he is a beautiful animal

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On Jan 25, 2:25*pm, Larry L wrote:


One other note ... unless specifically trained otherwise ... any dog
will very likely increase you danger if you capsize your boat. * *By
nature they are far more likely to try and climb on you and make your
struggles more difficult than to pull you to safety, Lassie/Disney
Movie style

Larry ( who has known and tried to train several examples of both
breeds, over the last 40+ years, and who has heard several pretty
scary tales of trying to swim with the dog, and been in one such
situation, himself )

Perhaps the most interesting observation I've ever encountered with
regard to dogs.

giles.
who wonders whether anyone has ever succeeded in teaching a dog to do
a breaststroke, sidestroke, backstroke, crawl, or butterfly.

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On 25-Jan-2010, "Mark Bowen" wrote:

. Bear is
a 115 lb. Gernam Shepherd that was rescued from a Meth Lab. Bear was tied
to
a deck and neglected fro approx. 2 years, before he came to live with
mother. He would run away from me when we first got him, but he and I went

thru Lenoir Police Dept.'s Citizen Canine Training for 8 weeks and now I
am
the Alph male and Bear's personal driver, so we are best buddies. Bear
goes
on virtually every campin' and fishin' I take, unless I know the stream
conditions will be a danger to Bear. He can be a danger to himself,
because
he **must** be at my side at all times, when we are in the stream. He will

jump from the largest boulder to get to where I am, if he cannot follow
the
same path that I have taken.

The only thing you have to do to make a great fishin' hound is to make him

your bestest buddy everyday! He will kill him/herself to stay by your
side,
if he or she respects you as a leader. Just watch a few episodes of the
Dog
Whisperer--Ceasar Milan to get the picture.

Jeff Miller can attest to Bear's love of fishin' trips and his loyalty to
me. He is by far the best fishin' hound on the face of the planet--bar
none!

Op\

You are right about Bear
I have seen your photos and he looks like a beautiful, faithful and lovable
dog

We also watch Cesar MillanWe have no dog issues as all the humans who live
on our property are their unquestioned pack leaders

I never understood how someone can mistreat an animal??????
There are rottern human scumbags on this planet.

Fred

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wrote in message
...
On Jan 24, 2:23 pm, "Bill Grey" wrote:
"Fred" wrote in message

...





A long time ago a good fishing friend had a Springer Spaniel -
Real cute - loved the water- and she knew her place perfectly as ballast
for
a canoe.
We fished Squam Lake in NH
The three of us in the canoe - the dog was up front Gary in the rear and
me
in the middle - just paddes
Salmon - we got a few

So
Just thinking of a resucue dog Brittany or Springer Spaniel...
............

All of our animals are real happy and friendly so... I do not want to
upset
that

Has anyone had experience or ever have one of these cute critters?
And more to the point has anyone gone fishing with one?

Thanks
Fred

A suppose a Newfoundland is too big - but a great resuce dog.

In Swansea, Wales there was a famous character - "Swansea Jack" - a black
Labrador dog, who reputedly rescued several people who had fallen into the
dock. So much so is his fame that there is a statue to his memory in
Swansea.

Bill

See:- http://www.cymfishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=2161

I'm afraid, Bill, that "rescue dog" has a different meaning here than
there. Here, it usually means that the person rescues the dog, not
vice versa. Whether Fred intended it that way I'm not sure, but I
expect he did.

As someone once said, we're two countries separated by a common
language.

No confusion at all really. It was ther context of the requirement of the
dog - !in the canoe" that made me think of rescue ( to save someone) rather
than rescuing a dog from a fate worse than death.

Our languages do tend to diverge at times, it's too much to ask you to get
in line I suppose :-)

Thanks all the same.

Bill

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"Fred" wrote in message
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On 24-Jan-2010, " wrote:

I'm afraid, Bill, that "rescue dog" has a different meaning here than
there. Here, it usually means that the person rescues the dog, not
vice versa. Whether Fred intended it that way I'm not sure, but I
expect he did.

Thanks for the clarification and rw is correct - We would give a home to a
distressed animal
So we would rescue the dog
and give a good home w 6 other dogs in the pack running loose all the time

Fred

Anyway, I tiought it would make a good read.

Bill

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On 26-Jan-2010, "Bill Grey" wrote:

Anyway, I tiought it would make a good read.

Bill

It does & thanks for your post.

I would not want to get in a canoe w a Newfoundland
We had a 150 lb English Foxhound (Kokomo)
We lived in NH and I took him to Maine, to slow rivers & lakes, as a pup to
teach him about the canoe.
He was fine - but...
As he grew I knew there was no way I would get in a canoe w him

Fred

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On Jan 26, 1:45*pm, "Bill Grey" wrote:
wrote in message

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On Jan 24, 2:23 pm, "Bill Grey" wrote:





"Fred" wrote in message

m...

A long time ago a good fishing friend had a Springer Spaniel -
Real cute - loved the water- and she knew her place perfectly as ballast
for
a canoe.
We fished Squam Lake in NH
The three of us in the canoe - the dog was up front Gary in the rear and
me
in the middle - just paddes
Salmon - we got a few

So
Just thinking of a resucue dog Brittany or Springer Spaniel...
............

All of our animals are real happy and friendly so... I do not want to
upset
that

Has anyone had experience or ever have one of these cute critters?
And more to the point has anyone gone fishing with one?

Thanks
Fred

A suppose a Newfoundland is too big - but a great resuce dog.

In Swansea, Wales there was a famous character - "Swansea Jack" - a black
Labrador dog, who reputedly rescued several people who had fallen into the
dock. So much so is his fame that there is a statue to his memory in
Swansea.

Bill

See:-http://www.cymfishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=2161

I'm afraid, Bill, that "rescue dog" has a different meaning here than
there. Here, it usually means that the person rescues the dog, not
vice versa. Whether Fred intended it that way I'm not sure, but I
expect he did.

As someone once said, we're two countries separated by a common
language.

No confusion at all really. It was ther context of the requirement of the
dog - !in the canoe" that made me think of rescue ( to save someone) rather
than rescuing a dog from a fate worse than death.

Our languages do tend to diverge at times, it's too much to ask you to get
in line I suppose :-)

"Why can't the English teach their children how to speak?"--Enry
Iggins. :)

giles