Have I really been suspended??????
 

I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may
not now be a member of.

Have I been suspended???

Thanks.
______________________________

Dear Mr XXXXX

Your recent refusal to contact the acting secretary by phone regarding
several emails and internet posts, was brought to the attention of the
Committee at their most recent meeting.

After viewing several examples the Committee has decided to suspend
your membership until further notice, any application for the 2010
season will be refused.

The Committee believe that you have been given ample opportunity to
make direct contact in order to explain your behaviour, but you have
chosen to decline the offer.

With this in mind the committee do not feel that any further
opportunity should be extended.

If you have any questions regarding this letter, please contact Mr
Chairman on 078********

Regards

Mr Bloggs
Acting Secretary of the Association
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This letter merely informs me that a meeting (that I wasn't
invited to) discussed my "refusal" to phone the Acting Secretary.

At no point was I instructed by ANYONE to call the Acting Secretary,
so I do not see how refusing to do what I wasn't instructed to do
could be grounds for suspension.

Additionally, at no time have I been asked to "explain my behaviour".

The letter does not tell me what authority they have to suspend my
membership.

The letter does not tell me anything about a refund of my fees.

The letter does not tell me who the members of this committee are.

The letter does not tell me about any route to appeal the decision.

The letter does not have a return address.

The letter, quite frankly, is an abomination and typical of the
secrecy that is rotting the club from the top down.

Have I really been suspended??????



Thanks

Have I really been suspended??????
 

a_non_the_mouse wrote:
I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may
not now be a member of.

Have I been suspended???

Thanks.

It looks like it. Whether they can lawfully do this, however, depends on
their membership conditions and whether their disciplinary procedures allow
them to do this. My guess is that they probably do, because there is ample
caselaw on the wording and structure of such expulsion processes, but it's
impossible to say without looking at the conditions. Even if they've got it
wrong, your chances of getting damages are limited, and you probably
wouldn't want to rejoin a club that had expelled you illegally. I'd find
another angling club, if I were you.

______________________________

Dear Mr XXXXX

Your recent refusal to contact the acting secretary by phone regarding
several emails and internet posts, was brought to the attention of the
Committee at their most recent meeting.

After viewing several examples the Committee has decided to suspend
your membership until further notice, any application for the 2010
season will be refused.

The Committee believe that you have been given ample opportunity to
make direct contact in order to explain your behaviour, but you have
chosen to decline the offer.

With this in mind the committee do not feel that any further
opportunity should be extended.

If you have any questions regarding this letter, please contact Mr
Chairman on 078********

Regards

Mr Bloggs
Acting Secretary of the Association
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This letter merely informs me that a meeting (that I wasn't
invited to) discussed my "refusal" to phone the Acting Secretary.

At no point was I instructed by ANYONE to call the Acting Secretary,
so I do not see how refusing to do what I wasn't instructed to do
could be grounds for suspension.

Additionally, at no time have I been asked to "explain my behaviour".

The letter does not tell me what authority they have to suspend my
membership.

The letter does not tell me anything about a refund of my fees.

The letter does not tell me who the members of this committee are.

The letter does not tell me about any route to appeal the decision.

The letter does not have a return address.

The letter, quite frankly, is an abomination and typical of the
secrecy that is rotting the club from the top down.

Have I really been suspended??????



Thanks

Have I really been suspended??????
 

"a_non_the_mouse" wrote in message
...
I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may
not now be a member of.

Have I been suspended???

Thanks.
______________________________

Dear Mr XXXXX

Your recent refusal to contact the acting secretary by phone regarding
several emails and internet posts, was brought to the attention of the
Committee at their most recent meeting.

After viewing several examples the Committee has decided to suspend
your membership until further notice, any application for the 2010
season will be refused.

The Committee believe that you have been given ample opportunity to
make direct contact in order to explain your behaviour, but you have
chosen to decline the offer.

With this in mind the committee do not feel that any further
opportunity should be extended.

If you have any questions regarding this letter, please contact Mr
Chairman on 078********

Regards

Mr Bloggs
Acting Secretary of the Association
()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() ()()()()())()()()

This letter merely informs me that a meeting (that I wasn't
invited to) discussed my "refusal" to phone the Acting Secretary.

At no point was I instructed by ANYONE to call the Acting Secretary,
so I do not see how refusing to do what I wasn't instructed to do
could be grounds for suspension.

Additionally, at no time have I been asked to "explain my behaviour".

The letter does not tell me what authority they have to suspend my
membership.

The letter does not tell me anything about a refund of my fees.

The letter does not tell me who the members of this committee are.

The letter does not tell me about any route to appeal the decision.

The letter does not have a return address.

The letter, quite frankly, is an abomination and typical of the
secrecy that is rotting the club from the top down.

Have I really been suspended??????


Yes. To quote what you have put, "... the Committee has decided to suspend
your membership until further notice, any application for the 2010 season
will be refused."

Whether this has been fairly done and you have the right of appeal depends
on various other factors, such as the type of club and its constitution.

Iain

Have I really been suspended??????
 

a_non_the_mouse wrote:
I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may
not now be a member of.

Have I been suspended???
______________________________

Dear Mr XXXXX

Your recent refusal to contact the acting secretary by phone regarding
several emails and internet posts, was brought to the attention of the
Committee at their most recent meeting.
..........
etc.

Why are you asking us? If I were you, I'd call and ask the acting
secretary.

- JR

Have I really been suspended??????
 

a_non_the_mouse wrote:
I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may
not now be a member of.

Have I been suspended???

Thanks.
______________________________

Dear Mr XXXXX

Your recent refusal to contact the acting secretary by phone regarding
several emails and internet posts, was brought to the attention of the
Committee at their most recent meeting.

After viewing several examples the Committee has decided to suspend
your membership until further notice, any application for the 2010
season will be refused.

The Committee believe that you have been given ample opportunity to
make direct contact in order to explain your behaviour, but you have
chosen to decline the offer.

With this in mind the committee do not feel that any further
opportunity should be extended.

If you have any questions regarding this letter, please contact Mr
Chairman on 078********

Regards

Mr Bloggs
Acting Secretary of the Association
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This letter merely informs me that a meeting (that I wasn't
invited to) discussed my "refusal" to phone the Acting Secretary.

At no point was I instructed by ANYONE to call the Acting Secretary,
so I do not see how refusing to do what I wasn't instructed to do
could be grounds for suspension.

Additionally, at no time have I been asked to "explain my behaviour".

The letter does not tell me what authority they have to suspend my
membership.

The letter does not tell me anything about a refund of my fees.

The letter does not tell me who the members of this committee are.

The letter does not tell me about any route to appeal the decision.

The letter does not have a return address.

The letter, quite frankly, is an abomination and typical of the
secrecy that is rotting the club from the top down.

Have I really been suspended??????

Acording to the letter yes you have & it could hardly be clearer on that
point.

You have been invited to contact 'Mr Chairman'. Surely the thing to do now
is to contact him & raise the points you mentioned above re why you feel you
have been unfairly treated.

--
Joe Lee

Have I really been suspended??????
 

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 12:55:12 -0800 (PST), a_non_the_mouse
wrote:

I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may
not now be a member of.

Have I been suspended???

Yes

The letter does not tell me what authority they have to suspend my
membership.

It does not need to.

The letter does not tell me anything about a refund of my fees.

It does not need to.

The letter does not tell me who the members of this committee are.

It does not need to.

The letter does not tell me about any route to appeal the decision.

Yes it does - it tells you to phone the Chairman and supplies you with
his telephone number.

The letter does not have a return address.

It does not need to.

Have I really been suspended??????

Yes.

Have I really been suspended??????
 

On 5 Feb, 22:51, Peter Parry wrote:
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 12:55:12 -0800 (PST), a_non_the_mouse

wrote:
I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may
not now be a member of.

Have I been suspended???

Yes

The letter does not tell me what authority they have to suspend my
membership.

It does not need to.


Thanks.

I accept that "the letter" does not have to tell me what authority
they have for taking such action, but I do not know if they actually
DO have the authority to suspend a member.
Perhaps they do.
Perhaps they don't.

Not one member of the club that I have been in contact with today can
show me any evidence that such authority exists.

Perhaps Robert Clerk, the managing agent for the Crown Estate's salmon
fishing interests in Scotland, would like to know what kind of
autocrats have the lease on the river (until December 31st this
year.) This information may help him decide about the lease for the
next 5 years.

Have I really been suspended??????
 

"a_non_the_mouse" wrote in message
...
I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may
not now be a member of.

Have I been suspended???

Thanks.
______________________________

Dear Mr XXXXX

Your recent refusal to contact the acting secretary by phone regarding
several emails and internet posts, was brought to the attention of the
Committee at their most recent meeting.

After viewing several examples the Committee has decided to suspend
your membership until further notice, any application for the 2010
season will be refused.

It's something you should take up with the angling club.
Quite franky I think anglers are a load of selfish arseholes who think they
own the river/canal. They can all fall in the water and drown for all I
care.
Now **** off and take your stupid argument elsewhere, you brain dead
dickhead.

Have I really been suspended??????
 

On Feb 5, 2:55*pm, a_non_the_mouse wrote:

I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may
not now be a member of.

Have I been suspended???

..Don't know yet. Let's take a look at it, shall we?

Thanks.

You're quite welcome.

______________________________

Dear Mr XXXXX

AH! Unless you name actually is XXXXX, I'd say your chances of being
reinstated look very good right from the outset!

Your recent refusal to contact the acting secretary by phone regarding
several emails and internet posts, was brought to the attention of the
Committee at their most recent meeting.

O.k., on the face of it, refusing to contact the acting secretary
doesn't look good. Sort of suggests contempt.....or at least an
unexplained indifference. Still, neither of those feelings is ouright
illegal.....in most places. For now, let's continue and see where
this all leads.

After viewing several examples the Committee has decided to suspend
your membership until further notice, any application for the 2010
season will be refused.

Here's something we can work with. The unnamed "Committee" (we can
definitely use their anonymity to our advantage.....more on that
later.....maybe) has evidently viewed "several examples" of what we
can only suppose to be their own correspondence, given the wording of
the previous sentence. Sure, one COULD hold to the position that they
were referencing alleged calls and/or emails initiated by your august
self, but any court in its collective right mind would throw that out
on the grounds of senseless ambiguity. One can hardly be held at
fault for replying with a hearty (and heartfelt) so what?.....or
not.....which would, or at least should, convey precisely the same
message.

The Committee believe that you have been given ample opportunity to
make direct contact in order to explain your behaviour, but you have
chosen to decline the offer.

The "Committee" can scarcely be in a position to know whether the
alleged opportunities they claim to have given are, or were, "ample."
In point of fact, the lack of response rather suggests otherwise,
ainna? As to the allegation that "you have chosen to decline the
offer," this is pure speculation, unsustantiated by a single shred of
evidence. It is equally plausible, in the absence of anything
resembling evidence to the contrary, that you were prevented from
responding by forces utterly beyond your control. For instance, it
remains in doubt (as pointed out above) whether or not you ever
received any calls, emails, or other correspondence from the
mysterious "Committee."

With this in mind the committee do not feel that any further
opportunity should be extended.

Feelings do not enter into the matter......or shouldn't, anyway. The
courts have, for centuries, been quite clear on this point. What
matters is a cool-headed application of reason to the interpretation
of the law.

If you have any questions regarding this letter, please contact Mr
Chairman on 078********

"Mr Chairman"? This just plain strains credulity! How likely is it
that the chairman of the still unidentified "Committee" is actually
named Chairman? Not impossible, I admit, but I remain skeptical.
Meanwhile, I just dialed 078********. No one answered the phone. Not
surprising, some might say, given that the usage found thus far in
this sad saga suggests it is taking place somewhere to the east of the
pond where it is now sometime in the wee hours of Saturday morning,
but you'd think they'd at least have voicemail or something like that
by now.....right? I mean, civilization has at least made a
perfunctory visit or two to the hallowed isles on occasion over the
past couple of centuries.....or not?
Regards

Mr Bloggs

Bloggs.....Bloggs.....hm......aren't they related to the Bagginses
over by twiddly under the whatsit?

Acting Secretary of the Association

Ah! An actor! Oh, we are going to have SUCH an easy time with this!

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Hm.....

Your computer seems to have been invaded by quagga mussels. Sorry,
not much I can do to help you with this problem. Hey, wait! I've got
a friend over at the Department of Natural Resources. I'll give him a
call and get back to you. O.k.?

This letter merely informs me that a meeting (that I wasn't
invited to) discussed my "refusal" to phone the Acting Secretary.

Actually, a close reading reveals that it does a whole lot
more.....and less.....than that. But then, that's exactly why you
have sought our assitance on this rather ticklish matter, isn't it?

At no point was I instructed by ANYONE to call the Acting Secretary,

No, but what the hell, it might not have been an entirely bad idea
anyway.....right? Hell, everybody likes to get a call from old
friends once in a while. You know, just keep in touch, how ya doin',
that kind of thing. I mean, would it abso****inlutely KILL somebody
to call his ****in' brother on his ****in' birthday and just say hi
how ya doin?! :(

so I do not see how refusing to do what I wasn't instructed to do
could be grounds for suspension.

Well, there could be a clause which states just that. Do you happen
to have a copy of the bylaws you could fax to us at our earliest
convenience?

Additionally, at no time have I been asked to "explain my behaviour".

Uh huh, we know how much it can hurt to not be asked. O.k., go
ahead.....explain your behavior. Go on......we're listening.

The letter does not tell me what authority they have to suspend my
membership.

True, but that could simply be becuase they have the authority to not
tell you what authority they have to suspend your membership. These
things (as should be clear by now) can get pretty complicated. And
that's precisely why you came to us.....right? So, don't worry, we'll
get it all sorted out for you.

The letter does not tell me anything about a refund of my fees.

Um.....you haven't told us anything about fees.

The letter does not tell me who the members of this committee are.

Good point. However, since we don't know what committee it is, the
membership would appear to be moot.

The letter does not tell me about any route to appeal the decision.

You may rest assured that this end of the matter may be left safely in
our hands.....should we come to an understanding that our involvement
is in our mutual best interest ($$$). In the meantime, don't fret
your pretty little head over it.....o.k.?

The letter does not have a return address.

Doesn't matter. It probably wouldn't do us any more good than the
phone number above.

The letter, quite frankly, is an abomination

Well, it's a sure enough curiosity, anyway. But you should probably
refrain from making strong statements (or any statements at all, for
that matter) until we have met with the scurrilous *******s and sorted
some of this tedious **** out. O.k.?

and typical of the
secrecy that is rotting the club from the top down.

The directionality (assuming any such exists) of the rot is not
germain. The point is to root it out regardless and get the
loo.....um......seek justice for all.

Have I really been suspended??????

Well, when you look toward your feet, do you see ceiling or floor?

Thanks

You're welcome.

giles
for The Company

Have I really been suspended??????
 

On Feb 5, 3:15*pm, "Janitor of Lunacy" wrote:
a_non_the_mouse wrote:
I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may
not now be a member of.

Have I been suspended???

Thanks.

It looks like it. Whether they can lawfully do this, however, depends on
their membership conditions and whether their disciplinary procedures allow
them to do this. My guess is that they probably do, because there is ample
caselaw on the wording and structure of such expulsion processes, but it's
impossible to say without looking at the conditions.

Beg pardon, sir, are you a barrister or a solicitor? Are you licensed
to dispense legal advice. Have a care, sirrah, you know not what deep
and treacherous waters you roil. :(

Even if they've got it
wrong, your chances of getting damages are limited,

Yeah, there's that.....but where there's sheep, there's fleece,
ainna? Go find your own ewe.

and you probably
wouldn't want to rejoin a club that had expelled you illegally.

Personally, I tend toward agreement with Mr. Marx on this point.

I'd find another angling club, if I were you.

Hell, I'd find another angling club, newsgroup, home, history,
language, culture and educational system if I were any of you.....or
try to with the limited means that would be at my disposal.

g.

Have I really been suspended??????
 

On Feb 5, 3:35*pm, "Joe Lee" wrote:
a_non_the_mouse wrote:
I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may
not now be a member of.

Have I been suspended???

Thanks.
______________________________

Dear Mr XXXXX

Your recent refusal to contact the acting secretary by phone regarding
several emails and internet posts, was brought to the attention of the
Committee at their most recent meeting.

After viewing several examples the Committee has decided to suspend
your membership until further notice, any application for the 2010
season will be refused.

The Committee believe that you have been given ample opportunity to
make direct contact in order to explain your behaviour, but you have
chosen to decline the offer.

With this in mind the committee do not feel that any further
opportunity should be extended.

If you have any questions regarding this letter, please contact Mr
Chairman on 078********

Regards

Mr Bloggs
Acting Secretary of the Association
()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() ()()()()())()()()

This letter merely informs me that a meeting (that I wasn't
invited to) discussed my "refusal" to phone the Acting Secretary.

At no point was I instructed by ANYONE to call the Acting Secretary,
so I do not see how refusing to do what I wasn't instructed to do
could be grounds for suspension.

Additionally, at no time have I been asked to "explain my behaviour".

The letter does not tell me what authority they have to suspend my
membership.

The letter does not tell me anything about a refund of my fees.

The letter does not tell me who the members of this committee are.

The letter does not tell me about any route to appeal the decision.

The letter does not have a return address.

The letter, quite frankly, is an abomination and typical of the
secrecy that is rotting the club from the top down.

Have I really been suspended??????

Acording to the letter yes you have & it could hardly be clearer on that
point.

You have been invited to contact 'Mr Chairman'. Surely the thing to do now
is to contact him & raise the points you mentioned above re why you feel you
have been unfairly treated.

--
Joe Lee

Well, that's just about the most scatterbrained, unhelpful, vicious,
speculative, unreasoned, self-serving, immoral, depraved, illegal,
unconstitutional, sinister, half-witted, pig-headed, untrue, ass-
backwards, anti-grammatical and generally WRONG advice I have ever
encountered here or anywhere else!

giles
call me.....trust me.

Have I really been suspended??????
 

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 12:55:12 -0800 (PST), a_non_the_mouse wrote:
I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may
not now be a member of.

Have I been suspended???

Thanks.
______________________________

Dear Mr XXXXX

Your recent refusal to contact the acting secretary by phone regarding
several emails and internet posts, was brought to the attention of the
Committee at their most recent meeting.

After viewing several examples the Committee has decided to suspend
your membership until further notice, any application for the 2010
season will be refused.

The Committee believe that you have been given ample opportunity to
make direct contact in order to explain your behaviour, but you have
chosen to decline the offer.

With this in mind the committee do not feel that any further
opportunity should be extended.

If you have any questions regarding this letter, please contact Mr
Chairman on 078********

Regards

Mr Bloggs
Acting Secretary of the Association
()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() ()()()()())()()()

This letter merely informs me that a meeting (that I wasn't
invited to) discussed my "refusal" to phone the Acting Secretary.

At no point was I instructed by ANYONE to call the Acting Secretary,
so I do not see how refusing to do what I wasn't instructed to do
could be grounds for suspension.

Additionally, at no time have I been asked to "explain my behaviour".

The letter does not tell me what authority they have to suspend my
membership.

The letter does not tell me anything about a refund of my fees.

The letter does not tell me who the members of this committee are.

The letter does not tell me about any route to appeal the decision.

The letter does not have a return address.

The letter, quite frankly, is an abomination and typical of the
secrecy that is rotting the club from the top down.

Have I really been suspended??????



Thanks

Surely in the time it took you to type all this stuff in, you could have
called the person in the letter, spoken to them (acting all mystified:
"email - wot email? gosh it must have got lost in my SPAM filter. Now,
what was it you wanted to talk about") in your sweetest manner and sorted
the situation out. It's hardly something to get all hot 'n' heavy about on
a newsgroup.

Have I really been suspended??????
 

Have I really been suspended??????

Thanks

Yes.
Think of it more as an opportunity than a suspension. More as that
good feeling after a fine meal.
And please, take a packet.
If you have any questions whatsoever please feel free to consult the
packet.
It's all explained in the packet.
I will need to have your building pass now.
Yes, Now.
Please let Officer Detail help you clear your personal items from the
workstation and get you a cab. On us.
Think of this as a new beginning.
Like a new tommorrow, only today.
Good.

Have I really been suspended??????
 

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 12:55:12 -0800 (PST), a_non_the_mouse
wrote:

I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may
not now be a member of.

Have I been suspended???

Yes, under orders from MI5. I'd suggest that you cross-post to every
mother****ing newsgroup currently active about it all...you'll be a legend.

HTH,
Double-Naught Dickie
Shaken, Not Stirred

....well, OK, so not so much a "legend" as a "laughingstock," but hey, you'll be
almost as famous as Mike Connor...

Have I really been suspended??????
 

"a_non_the_mouse" wrote in message
...
I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may
not now be a member of.

Have I been suspended???

Thanks.
______________________________

Dear Mr XXXXX

Your recent refusal to contact the acting secretary by phone regarding
several emails and internet posts, was brought to the attention of the
Committee at their most recent meeting.

After viewing several examples the Committee has decided to suspend
your membership until further notice, any application for the 2010
season will be refused.

The Committee believe that you have been given ample opportunity to
make direct contact in order to explain your behaviour, but you have
chosen to decline the offer.

With this in mind the committee do not feel that any further
opportunity should be extended.

If you have any questions regarding this letter, please contact Mr
Chairman on 078********

Regards

Mr Bloggs
Acting Secretary of the Association
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This letter merely informs me that a meeting (that I wasn't
invited to) discussed my "refusal" to phone the Acting Secretary.

At no point was I instructed by ANYONE to call the Acting Secretary,
so I do not see how refusing to do what I wasn't instructed to do
could be grounds for suspension.

Additionally, at no time have I been asked to "explain my behaviour".

The letter does not tell me what authority they have to suspend my
membership.

The letter does not tell me anything about a refund of my fees.

The letter does not tell me who the members of this committee are.

The letter does not tell me about any route to appeal the decision.

The letter does not have a return address.

The letter, quite frankly, is an abomination and typical of the
secrecy that is rotting the club from the top down.

Have I really been suspended??????



Thanks

Have gun, will travel.

Wire Asadi, via ROFF.

Have I really been suspended??????
 

"a_non_the_mouse" wrote in message
...
I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may
not now be a member of.

Have I been suspended???

Thanks.
______________________________

Dear Mr XXXXX

Your recent refusal to contact the acting secretary by phone regarding
several emails and internet posts, was brought to the attention of the
Committee at their most recent meeting.

After viewing several examples the Committee has decided to suspend
your membership until further notice, any application for the 2010
season will be refused.

The Committee believe that you have been given ample opportunity to
make direct contact in order to explain your behaviour, but you have
chosen to decline the offer.

With this in mind the committee do not feel that any further
opportunity should be extended.

If you have any questions regarding this letter, please contact Mr
Chairman on 078********

Regards

Mr Bloggs
Acting Secretary of the Association
()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() ()()()()())()()()

This letter merely informs me that a meeting (that I wasn't
invited to) discussed my "refusal" to phone the Acting Secretary.

At no point was I instructed by ANYONE to call the Acting Secretary,
so I do not see how refusing to do what I wasn't instructed to do
could be grounds for suspension.

Additionally, at no time have I been asked to "explain my behaviour".

The letter does not tell me what authority they have to suspend my
membership.

The letter does not tell me anything about a refund of my fees.

The letter does not tell me who the members of this committee are.

The letter does not tell me about any route to appeal the decision.

The letter does not have a return address.

The letter, quite frankly, is an abomination and typical of the
secrecy that is rotting the club from the top down.

Have I really been suspended??????



Thanks

Why would you want to belong to a club that would have someone like you as a
member?

Steve

Have I really been suspended??????
 

On Feb 7, 12:56*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
"a_non_the_mouse" wrote in message

...





I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may
not now be a member of.

Have I been suspended???

Thanks.
______________________________

Dear Mr XXXXX

Your recent refusal to contact the acting secretary by phone regarding
several emails and internet posts, was brought to the attention of the
Committee at their most recent meeting.

After viewing several examples the Committee has decided to suspend
your membership until further notice, any application for the 2010
season will be refused.

The Committee believe that you have been given ample opportunity to
make direct contact in order to explain your behaviour, but you have
chosen to decline the offer.

With this in mind the committee do not feel that any further
opportunity should be extended.

If you have any questions regarding this letter, please contact Mr
Chairman on 078********

Regards

Mr Bloggs
Acting Secretary of the Association
()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() ()()()()())()()()

This letter merely informs me that a meeting (that I wasn't
invited to) discussed my "refusal" to phone the Acting Secretary.

At no point was I instructed by ANYONE to call the Acting Secretary,
so I do not see how refusing to do what I wasn't instructed to do
could be grounds for suspension.

Additionally, at no time have I been asked to "explain my behaviour".

The letter does not tell me what authority they have to suspend my
membership.

The letter does not tell me anything about a refund of my fees.

The letter does not tell me who the members of this committee are.

The letter does not tell me about any route to appeal the decision.

The letter does not have a return address.

The letter, quite frankly, is an abomination and typical of the
secrecy that is rotting the club from the top down.

Have I really been suspended??????

Thanks

Why would you want to belong to a club that would have someone like you as a
member?

Steve

Yeah, but now that he's been suspended, its exactly his type of club!

--riverman

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"riverman" wrote in message
...
On Feb 7, 12:56 pm, "Steve B" wrote:
"a_non_the_mouse" wrote in message

...





I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may
not now be a member of.

Have I been suspended???

Thanks.
______________________________

Dear Mr XXXXX

Your recent refusal to contact the acting secretary by phone regarding
several emails and internet posts, was brought to the attention of the
Committee at their most recent meeting.

After viewing several examples the Committee has decided to suspend
your membership until further notice, any application for the 2010
season will be refused.

The Committee believe that you have been given ample opportunity to
make direct contact in order to explain your behaviour, but you have
chosen to decline the offer.

With this in mind the committee do not feel that any further
opportunity should be extended.

If you have any questions regarding this letter, please contact Mr
Chairman on 078********

Regards

Mr Bloggs
Acting Secretary of the Association
()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() ()()()()())()()()

This letter merely informs me that a meeting (that I wasn't
invited to) discussed my "refusal" to phone the Acting Secretary.

At no point was I instructed by ANYONE to call the Acting Secretary,
so I do not see how refusing to do what I wasn't instructed to do
could be grounds for suspension.

Additionally, at no time have I been asked to "explain my behaviour".

The letter does not tell me what authority they have to suspend my
membership.

The letter does not tell me anything about a refund of my fees.

The letter does not tell me who the members of this committee are.

The letter does not tell me about any route to appeal the decision.

The letter does not have a return address.

The letter, quite frankly, is an abomination and typical of the
secrecy that is rotting the club from the top down.

Have I really been suspended??????

Thanks

Why would you want to belong to a club that would have someone like you as
a
member?

Steve

Yeah, but now that he's been suspended, its exactly his type of club!

--riverman



This causes a pain between my ears that I do not understand...........

john

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On Mar 16, 4:14*pm, "Otto Bahn" wrote:

Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!

Ooh! Ooh! I got a shiny new nickel says you believe you just said
something. Right? I mean, I'm right.....right?

giles
how much do i win? :)

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Giles wrote:
"Otto Bahn" wrote:
Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!

Ooh! Ooh! I got a shiny new nickel says you believe you just said
something. Right? I mean, I'm right.....right?

Many trolls also have their own _loincloths_. I mean, we've left the Century
of the Fruitbat _behind_!

giles
how much do i win? :)

Dave "a year's supply of ... well, you do the math" DeLaney
--
\/David DeLaney posting from "It's not the pot that grows the flower
It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeableBLINK
http://www.vic.com/~dbd/ - net.legends FAQ & Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.

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"Giles" wrote

Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!

Ooh! Ooh! I got a shiny new nickel says you believe you just said
something. Right? I mean, I'm right.....right?

Fishing Clubs sounds like the title of a Richard Brautigan novel.

--oTTo--

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On Mar 17, 9:42*am, "Otto Bahn" wrote:
"Giles" wrote

Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!


Ooh! *Ooh! *I got a shiny new nickel says you believe you just said
something. *Right? *I mean, I'm right.....right?

Fishing Clubs sounds like the title of a Richard Brautigan novel.

--oTTo--

I WPTA fisting club but thats bc I have been talking to shelly.

Marie

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"Marie" wrote

Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!


Ooh! Ooh! I got a shiny new nickel says you believe you just said
something. Right? I mean, I'm right.....right?

Fishing Clubs sounds like the title of a Richard Brautigan novel.

--oTTo--

I WPTA fisting club but thats bc I have been talking to shelly.

SHELLY!!!! You got some 'splaining to do.

--oTTo--

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"Otto Bahn" wrote in message
...
"Marie" wrote

Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!


Ooh! Ooh! I got a shiny new nickel says you believe you just said
something. Right? I mean, I'm right.....right?

Fishing Clubs sounds like the title of a Richard Brautigan novel.

--oTTo--

I WPTA fisting club but thats bc I have been talking to shelly.

SHELLY!!!! You got some 'splaining to do.

Who??? Me???

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net/blog

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On 2010-03-16, Otto Bahn wrote:

Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!

Otto! Remember the first rule.


--
Leila: "I don't think he knows."
Agent Rogersz: "Increase the voltage."
Leila: "What if he's innocent?"
Agent Rogersz: "No one is innocent. Proceed" (Cox 1984)

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"Adam Funk" wrote

Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!

Otto! Remember the first rule.

First, do no ham.

--oTTo--

Have I really been suspended??????
 

I WPTA fisting club but thats bc I have been talking to shelly.

Marie

Best typo I've seen in years.
Frank Reid

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"Frank Reid © 2008" wrote in message
...

I WPTA fisting club but thats bc I have been talking to shelly.

Marie

Best typo I've seen in years.
Frank Reid


sure, as long as there are no pictures.......
Tom

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On Mar 17, 5:12*pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"Frank Reid © 2008" wrote in ...



I WPTA fisting club but thats bc I have been talking to shelly.

Marie

Best typo I've seen in years.
Frank Reid

sure, as long as there are no pictures.......
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Tom

The pictures in your MIND are the ones to worry about

Or so I have been told

Marie

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Shelly wrote:
"Otto Bahn" wrote in message
"Marie" wrote
Fishing Clubs sounds like the title of a Richard Brautigan novel.

--oTTo--

I WPTA fisting club but thats bc I have been talking to shelly.

SHELLY!!!! You got some .gif-postin' to do.

Who??? Me???

I fixed ... someone's post for them. (The quoting is odd here. My balance is
off.(

Dave
--
\/David DeLaney posting from "It's not the pot that grows the flower
It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeableBLINK
http://www.vic.com/~dbd/ - net.legends FAQ & Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.

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On Mar 16, 11:37*pm, (David DeLaney) wrote:
Giles wrote:
"Otto Bahn" wrote:
Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!

Ooh! *Ooh! *I got a shiny new nickel says you believe you just said
something. *Right? *I mean, I'm right.....right?

Many trolls also have their own _loincloths_. I mean, we've left the Century
of the Fruitbat _behind_!

giles
how much do i win? * * :)

Dave "a year's supply of ... well, you do the math" DeLaney
--
\/David DeLaney posting from "It's not the pot that * * *grows the flower
It's not the clock that slows the hour *The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE * * * *HAPPYNET VRbeableBLINKhttp://www.vic.com/~dbd/- net.legends FAQ & Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.

Hm......

And you've just said something, too.....right?

g.
teacher was right; this ain't as hard as it looks.

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On Mar 17, 10:42*am, "Otto Bahn" wrote:
"Giles" wrote

Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!


Ooh! *Ooh! *I got a shiny new nickel says you believe you just said
something. *Right? *I mean, I'm right.....right?

Fishing Clubs sounds like the title of a Richard Brautigan novel.

--oTTo--

I believe I've read all of Brautigan's published works. None of them
has a title that sounds much like "Fishing Clubs" as far as I can
recall.

g.

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On Mar 17, 8:04*pm, (David DeLaney) wrote:


I fixed ... someone's post for them. (The quoting is odd here. My balance is
off.(


You may not be the first to have noticed that latter bit.


g.

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On Mar 17, 7:33*pm, Marie wrote:
On Mar 17, 5:12*pm, "Tom Littleton" wrote:

"Frank Reid © 2008" wrote in ...

I WPTA fisting club but thats bc I have been talking to shelly.

Marie

Best typo I've seen in years.
Frank Reid

sure, as long as there are no pictures.......
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Tom

The pictures in your MIND are the ones to worry about

Or so I have been told

Marie

You were told wrong, It's the pictures in MY mind that you need to
worry about.

g.
ask around.....go ahead, i dare ya.

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On Mar 17, 12:08*pm, Adam Funk wrote:
On 2010-03-16, Otto Bahn wrote:

Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!

Otto! *Remember the first rule.

Actually, the first get mowed down. The REMFS rule.

Leila: * * * * *"I don't think he knows."
Agent Rogersz: *"Increase the voltage."
Leila: * * * * *"What if he's innocent?"
Agent Rogersz: *"No one is innocent. *Proceed" * * * * (Cox 1984)

Well.

Gosh.

Insipid quotes really wow 'em in your neighborhood, huh?

g.

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On Mar 17, 12:24*pm, "Otto Bahn" wrote:
"Adam Funk" wrote

Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!

Otto! *Remember the first rule.

First, do no ham.

--oTTo--

Then, you lose.....early in the first round

g.
brings back memories of the halcyon days when fresh meat used to crop
just about daily. :)

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On Mar 17, 9:01*pm, Giles wrote:
On Mar 16, 11:37*pm, (David DeLaney) wrote:



Giles wrote:
"Otto Bahn" wrote:
Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!

Ooh! *Ooh! *I got a shiny new nickel says you believe you just said
something. *Right? *I mean, I'm right.....right?

Many trolls also have their own _loincloths_. I mean, we've left the Century
of the Fruitbat _behind_!

giles
how much do i win? * * :)

Dave "a year's supply of ... well, you do the math" DeLaney
--
\/David DeLaney posting from "It's not the pot that * * *grows the flower
It's not the clock that slows the hour *The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE * * * *HAPPYNET VRbeableBLINKhttp://www.vic.com/~dbd/-net.legends FAQ & Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.

Hm......

And you've just said something, too.....right?

Money talks.

g.
teacher was right; this ain't as hard as it looks.

Bull**** walks.


Dr. HotSalt


burma shave

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"Marie" wrote

I WPTA fisting club but thats bc I have been talking to shelly.

Marie

Best typo I've seen in years.
Frank Reid

sure, as long as there are no pictures.......
Tom

The pictures in your MIND are the ones to worry about

Uh-oh Spaghetti-oh!

Or so I have been told

If the horse won't pull you got to carry the load.

--oTTo--

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On Mar 18, 4:57*am, "Dr. HotSalt" wrote:
On Mar 17, 9:01*pm, Giles wrote:





On Mar 16, 11:37*pm, (David DeLaney) wrote:

Giles wrote:
"Otto Bahn" wrote:
Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!

Ooh! *Ooh! *I got a shiny new nickel says you believe you just said
something. *Right? *I mean, I'm right.....right?

Many trolls also have their own _loincloths_. I mean, we've left the Century
of the Fruitbat _behind_!

giles
how much do i win? * * :)

Dave "a year's supply of ... well, you do the math" DeLaney
--
\/David DeLaney posting from "It's not the pot that * * *grows the flower
It's not the clock that slows the hour *The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE * * * *HAPPYNET VRbeableBLINKhttp://www.vic.com/~dbd/-net.legendsFAQ & Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.

Hm......

And you've just said something, too.....right?

* Money talks.

g.
teacher was right; this ain't as hard as it looks.

* Bull**** walks.

* Dr. HotSalt

* burma shave- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, this just keeps on getting more and more illuminating.

Is there more?

g.

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"Giles" wrote in message
...
On Mar 18, 4:57 am, "Dr. HotSalt" wrote:

burma shave- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, this just keeps on getting more and more illuminating.

Is there more?

I believe the discussion on Google Groups and Hide/Show quoted text is
over -- there. Down the hall and the last door on the right. No, your
*other* right.

Oh dear.

--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net/blog