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Frank Church January 25th, 2004 01:09 AM

Need some clarification on boo #'s
 
OK, I found this bamboo rod on EBay and it says HCH or D on the rod. Now, I
know that HCH converts to DT6, but what the heck is D? And would a bamboo
rod that is rated for DT6 throw a WF6 or maybe WF5? Getting my bamboo
stock built up. :)

Frank Church
...just call me Culm

Todd Enders January 25th, 2004 02:30 AM

Need some clarification on boo #'s
 
In Frank Church wrote:
OK, I found this bamboo rod on EBay and it says HCH or D on the rod.
Now, I know that HCH converts to DT6, but what the heck is D?

~5 wt. level line.

I would suspect it'd cast OK with a WF6, although the rod
might feel a bit "faster". Depending on your casting style and
the action of the rod, you might even be able to get away with
a WF5. Best advice, as always, is to try it and see. :-)

Todd (remove hook to reply)



George Adams January 25th, 2004 02:37 AM

Need some clarification on boo #'s
 
From: Frank Church

OK, I found this bamboo rod on EBay and it says HCH or D on the rod. Now, I
know that HCH converts to DT6,


Actually HCH converts (roughly) to a DT7.

but what the heck is D?


D level or 6wt level.

And would a bamboo
rod that is rated for DT6 throw a WF6 or maybe WF5? Getting my bamboo
stock built up. :)


I have limited experience, only owning one 'boo, but mine throws a 6wt dt as
well as a 6wt wf.

HTH


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller


Wayne Knight January 25th, 2004 03:18 AM

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"Culm Church" wrote in message
9.11...
OK, I found this bamboo rod on EBay and it says HCH or D on the rod. Now,

I
know that HCH converts to DT6, but what the heck is D?


http://home.mindspring.com/~filker/P...Line_Size.html

And would a bamboo
rod that is rated for DT6 throw a WF6 or maybe WF5?


IMO, the HCH should handle the 6WF and the HDH the 5Wf and there's a could
chance they could interchange, especially if it is the HDH.

Getting my bamboo stock built up. :)


Elitist cane whore ;)



Wayne Knight January 25th, 2004 03:20 AM

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"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
...

And would a bamboo
rod that is rated for DT6 throw a WF6 or maybe WF5?


IMO, the HCH should handle the 6WF and the HDH the 5Wf and there's a could
chance they could interchange, especially if it is the HDH.


Hate of follow up my own post but hit the send too soon. Several years ago a
friend turned me on to Long Belly WF lines, I like the Wulf series and use
them on a couple of canes.



Tim J. January 25th, 2004 03:37 AM

Need some clarification on boo #'s
 

"Frank Church" wrote in message
9.11...
OK, I found this bamboo rod on EBay and it says HCH or D on the rod. Now, I
know that HCH converts to DT6, but what the heck is D? And would a bamboo
rod that is rated for DT6 throw a WF6 or maybe WF5? Getting my bamboo
stock built up. :)


.. . . and after all the trouble I go through!
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/flyline_chart.htm

These young kids can't be taught a thing. :)
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



George Adams January 25th, 2004 04:07 AM

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From: "Wayne Knight"

http://home.mindspring.com/~filker/P...Line_Size.html


Both Orvis and Sci Anglers diagree with this chart. My Battenkill is plainly
marked "HDG" WF#6" and Sci Anglers lists "HCH" as DT #7 and "HDH" as DT #6.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller


Wayne Knight January 25th, 2004 04:25 AM

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"George Adams" wrote in message
...
Orvis and Sci Anglers diagree with this chart. My Battenkill is plainly
marked "HDG" WF#6" and Sci Anglers lists "HCH" as DT #7 and "HDH" as DT

#6.


dunno George, I'm no expert but the two references i have at home agreed
with it, but it's just the first thing I googled off the web. All that HCH
and HDH is for you old timers anyway, all I ever known is wf and dt ;-) I
think the poster who suggested trying it had it right.



George Adams January 25th, 2004 05:28 AM

Need some clarification on boo #'s
 
From: "Wayne Knight"

All that HCH
and HDH is for you old timers anyway, all I ever known is wf and dt ;-) I
think the poster who suggested trying it had it right.


Absolutely. The disagreement in the various charts points out that the
conversion from letter to number is somewhat of an approximation. IIRC, the
letter system was based on diameters, while the number system is based on
weight.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller


Big Dale January 25th, 2004 09:46 AM

Need some clarification on boo #'s
 
Frank wrote:OK, I found this bamboo rod on EBay and it says HCH or D on the
rod. Now, I
know that HCH converts to DT6, but what the heck is D? And would a bamboo
rod that is rated for DT6 throw a WF6 or maybe WF5? Getting my bamboo
stock built up. :)

Frank Church
..just call me Culm

Frank: You are worrying about this **** way too much. Now that you have decided
to become a 'boo gear whore. You may as well go all the way. I don't remember,
but it seems like your favorite reel for these rods in the Orvis Battenkill, if
not then substitute Hardy Perfect for this advice. If you prefer wf lines then
outfit one Battenkill with a Cortland 444 Peach WF line with a WF5F and another
Battenkill with a WF6F. If you prefer double taper lines for your 'boo rods
then fill one reel with DT5F and another with DT6F lines. I kind of like the
double taper lines with my 'boo rods. If you run into a 'boo rod that seems
like it may like a heavier line then just buy another reel and a 7 weight line
for it. don't remember if waldo sells the Battenkill reel or not, but I bet he
would sell you some Hardy Perfect reels and some of the Peach colored Cortland
444 lines. The next time you are thru this area, stop by and I will loan you my
Hardy Perfect with the spare spool that are loaded with Scientific Angler DT5F
and DT6F lines or my old Ocean City reel that has a Cortland 444 DT5F line on
it to try for a few weeks.

Big Dale



Frank Church January 25th, 2004 12:08 PM

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ojunk (George Adams) wrote in
:

From: "Wayne Knight"


http://home.mindspring.com/~filker/P...Line_Size.html

Both Orvis and Sci Anglers diagree with this chart. My Battenkill is
plainly marked "HDG" WF#6" and Sci Anglers lists "HCH" as DT #7 and
"HDH" as DT #6.


....I wondered about that too George, I used the same chart as Wayne which
is why I was confused on your conversion numbers..Time will tell, but I'm
gonna look silly as hell standing up to my knees casting in the front yard.
:(

Frank

Frank Church January 25th, 2004 12:17 PM

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ospam (Big Dale) wrote in
:
Frank: You are worrying about this **** way too much. Now that you
have decided to become a 'boo gear whore. You may as well go all the
way. I don't remember, but it seems like your favorite reel for these
rods in the Orvis Battenkill...


I guess you're right BD, and I have Battenkills and Okuma Sierra reels out
the wazoo to try. Actually, the rod I commissioned to have built will get a
brand new Orvis CFO2, which is already in my hot little hands all loaded
with line and ready to go. I have to sit on pins and needles till sometime
next month until the rod is shipped. I just bought 2 rods off EBay, one an
original South Bend (which was the one marked HCH or D) and the other an
upgraded South Bend with all new hardward except the reel seat..damn thing
looked too good to pass up and will complement the new 'boo. Jesus, I think
I just went over the edge..is there any hope for me how?

Frank I still love my kpos's Church


Frank Church January 25th, 2004 12:19 PM

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"Wayne Knight" wrote in
:

Elitist cane whore ;)


**** Wayne, nobody told me this cane stuff is habit forming. :(

Frank Church


Frank Church January 25th, 2004 02:06 PM

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"Wayne Knight" wrote in
:

Elitist cane whore ;)


This is pretty heady stuff for a boy who came from a small town so poor
even the local prostitute was a virgin. :(

Frank the chaste Church

Wayne Knight January 25th, 2004 02:22 PM

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"Frank Church" wrote in message
9.11...

**** Wayne, nobody told me this cane stuff is habit forming. :(


Welcome to the dark side. If you need to try some lines and such, give me a
shout. I think you like the south bends, still good rods after all these
years and probably (none of my business) not so much invested that you
should be afraid of damaging them.



Todd Enders January 25th, 2004 05:30 PM

Need some clarification on boo #'s
 
In George Adams wrote:
Absolutely. The disagreement in the various charts points out
that the conversion from letter to number is somewhat of an
approximation. IIRC, the letter system was based on diameters,
while the number system is based on weight.

Yup, and to further muddy things, the letter system
was based on diametre of *silk* lines, so any conversion
to the modern system is at *best* an approximation. :-)

From what I know of 'boo rods, there's a fair bit of
leeway as far as which line size works best for *you*.
Indeed, I've seen people disagree +/- a line wt. w.r.t.
the line *they* thought worked best. The conversion
gives you a ballpark number, but you pretty well *have*
to experiment a bit to see what really suits the rod.

Todd (remove hook to reply)


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