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rw May 6th, 2010 11:01 PM

TR: Seychelles
 

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...arth_Image.jpg

The resort is on Alphonse Island (top in the photo). The fishing is on
the flats of St. Francois Island (bottom). Both are coral atolls. In
between them is the small island of Bijoutier.

The Seychelles are difficult to get to, especially from Stanley, Idaho,
and especially when an unpronounceable volcano in Iceland is shutting
down air traffic in Europe:

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...allajokull.jpg

I sweated bullets for a week before getting on one of the first planes
allowed to fly from the US to Paris.

Overnighted in the City of Light. Paris lived up to it that beautiful
day. My hotel was across the Seine from Notre Dame Cathedral. Walked
through the Tuileries and visited the Musee D'Orsay.

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The next day -- 10 hours to Mahe Island, Seychelles. Facing a six-hour
layover in the Mahe airport, I took a cab to Victoria, the capital of
the Seychelles. Friday was fish market day.

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The routine at Alphonse is: up at 5:30, breakfast at 6:00, get on the
Tam Tam at 7:00,

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0292.jpg

45 minutes to St. Francois, towing the skiffs,

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMGP0732.jpg

then take a skiff to the vast flats of the St. Francois lagoon.

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0208.jpg

Lunch on the water. Back to Alphonse at 5:30. Shower, take care of gear,
dinner at 7:00, back to the chalet at 9:00, set alarm, crash, repeat. No
down time for snorkeling and lying about.

Everything good you may have heard about the bonefishing on St. Francois
is true. We fished the tidal drop in the morning and the push in the
afternoon. I caught, conservatively, over 100 bones, and could have
caught twice as many if that were my only goal. The bones flood onto and
out of the flats with the tides by the thousands, concentrating along
the channels. They're just as difficult to spot and catch as usual, but
you get MANY more shots.

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At low tide the bones are in the deep and at high tide they're dispersed
over the flats, so we do something else. I caught this Giant Trevally
(a GT or "Geet" in the local way of speaking) at high tide, during the
most amazing fishing experience I've ever had.

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A huge school of mullet was circulating on a flat in a bait ball, herded
by the predatory trevally. Not only that, there were thousands of
bonefish all around, like spectators to the carnage. This Geet was 107cm
and 57lb. After releasing it I caught bones on every cast until I got bored.

At high tide we might do some reef fishing for mystery species. Here's
one of the prettiest, an Emperor.

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0184.jpg

Caught of few of these bluefin trevally, and lost three to lemon sharks.

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMGP0755.jpg

All the guides were good, but Roy, a Norwegian, was my favorite. Here's
Roy with a nice bone caught with my rod while we were surf walking for
Geets. The bones in the surf have a green color, distinct from the flats
fish.

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMGP0764.jpg

Roy cuts a striking pose.

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Mike, my fishing partner for the week, is one of the most interesting
men I've ever met. An anthropologist/archaeologist, Professor Emeritus
of Yale, author of several books, he's perhaps the foremost authority of
the Pre-Columbian civilizations of Mesoamerica, especially the Maya.
He's fished nearly everywhere I've ever heard of and many I haven't, and
he's a superb raconteur. At 82 years old he's going strong.

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Here's a video of Mike catching the first bone of the day:

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbum/MVI_0182.MOV

Only ten rods are allowed on St. Francois. On this trip there were four
of us. Charles (left) is from Scotland and John is from the north of
England, both excellent companions. Charles caught a 127cm, 80+ lb Geet
that was the largest taken this season. John caught a nice Geet, hooked
up with, but lost, a milkfish, and caught a very nice trigger fish.

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0177.jpg

Another favorite guide, Scott, has a place in Fairfield, ID, not far
from Stanley. We have some mutual Idaho friends. In the summer Scott
guides at Enchanted Lake Lodge in Alaska.

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Here's the full group, both guides and sports. Left to right: Serge,
Devon, Roy, Andrew, Steve (me), Charles, James, John, Mike, Scott.

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0219.jpg

There are lots of interesting creatures in the islands.

Land crabs:

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0231.jpg
http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0247.jpg

Grey Herons:

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http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0330.jpg
http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0320.jpg

Fairy Tern:

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0239.jpg

Giant Tortoise:

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMGP0731.jpg

The astonishing size of these tortoises isn't apparent in the photo.
Here's a video that perhaps gives a better impression:

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbum/MVI_0167.MOV

Large, intimidating-looking, but harmless spiders:

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0244.jpg

Gecko:

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0246.jpg

Eel:

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0311.jpg

Frigate Birds:
http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMGP0763.jpg

There were many animals I didn't photograph: several types of rays,
sharks, sea turtles, dolphins, etc.

Here are some miscellaneous scenery photos:

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http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0294.jpg

Alphonse Island was established as a coconut plantation in the 19th
century. This cemetery dates from about 1860.

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http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0253.jpg

The sky is often beautiful.

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http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0225.jpg
http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0229.jpg

Great trip. I'll be going back.

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Larry L[_2_] May 6th, 2010 11:57 PM

TR: Seychelles
 
On May 6, 3:01*pm, rw wrote:
pg

Great trip. I'll be going back.



Pretty damn cool

jeff May 7th, 2010 12:30 AM

TR: Seychelles
 
On 5/6/2010 6:57 PM, Larry L wrote:
On May 6, 3:01 pm, wrote:
pg

Great trip. I'll be going back.



Pretty damn cool


friggin fantastic stuff. thanks for taking me to a place i'll never
visit...and for the effort you took to share your experience. pretty
damn cool, indeed!

jeff

David LaCourse May 7th, 2010 01:02 AM

TR: Seychelles
 
On 2010-05-06 18:01:31 -0400, rw said:

Great trip. I'll be going back.


WOW! Best roff trip report ever! Very impressive.

Who did you book through, and did that include your arrangements in
Paris (great day there I see), and the capitol of Seychelles?

Gotts convince the wife to set me free for a couple of weeks.

Very nice report/pics, Steve. I'm jealous.

Dave



rw May 7th, 2010 01:29 AM

TR: Seychelles
 
On 5/6/10 6:02 PM, David LaCourse wrote:
On 2010-05-06 18:01:31 -0400, rw said:

Great trip. I'll be going back.


WOW! Best roff trip report ever! Very impressive.

Who did you book through, and did that include your arrangements in
Paris (great day there I see), and the capitol of Seychelles?


AnglerAdventures handled Paris to Alphonse and back to Paris. I booked
everything else myself. The connections are terrible, which is why I
stayed overnight in Paris.

Don't try to carry a rod on board in Charles de Gaulle (CDG) airport.
Doesn't work. I'll never take my 3-piece Sage RPLXi overseas again. I
was lucky to get it home. Should have sold it to the Alphonse outfit.
Four-piece rods are the only way to go. They fit in the luggage.


Gotts convince the wife to set me free for a couple of weeks.

Very nice report/pics, Steve. I'm jealous.

Dave



I'm kinda sorry about the Dave's cortex crack, but it was just sitting
there.

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David LaCourse May 7th, 2010 02:38 AM

TR: Seychelles
 
On 2010-05-06 20:29:03 -0400, rw said:

On 5/6/10 6:02 PM, David LaCourse wrote:
On 2010-05-06 18:01:31 -0400, rw said:

Great trip. I'll be going back.


WOW! Best roff trip report ever! Very impressive.

Who did you book through, and did that include your arrangements in
Paris (great day there I see), and the capitol of Seychelles?


AnglerAdventures handled Paris to Alphonse and back to Paris. I booked
everything else myself. The connections are terrible, which is why I
stayed overnight in Paris.


When I looked into going last year, the logistics were terrible. I
think I had to spend a night in Paris and another in Nairobi or another
African city, finally arriving on Mahe three days after leaving Boston.
I would have also had to spend a night in Victoria going and coming.
The logistics turned me off completely. However, it is still on my
bucket list.

Don't try to carry a rod on board in Charles de Gaulle (CDG) airport.
Doesn't work. I'll never take my 3-piece Sage RPLXi overseas again. I
was lucky to get it home. Should have sold it to the Alphonse outfit.
Four-piece rods are the only way to go. They fit in the luggage.


Well, hell, that would have been one of the the rods *I* would have
brought. Four or five is the only way, I guess. F&^%$@n french!


Gotts convince the wife to set me free for a couple of weeks.

Very nice report/pics, Steve. I'm jealous.

Dave



I'm kinda sorry about the Dave's cortex crack, but it was just sitting there.


Just kinda? d;o)

Don't worry about it. After all, this is roff.

Great report no matter what!

Dave





Robert from Oz May 7th, 2010 03:22 AM

Seychelles
 
Hi RW

Thanks for the trip report mate, not a trip I'd be able to do but got a buzz
from you sharing your fun. One question tho, why did the rope coming off
the back of the tow boat (towing the skiffs) have 3 knots in it? Was it
getting caught in the prop?

Thanks

Rob.





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rw May 7th, 2010 03:25 AM

Seychelles
 
On 5/6/10 8:22 PM, Robert from Oz wrote:
Hi RW

Thanks for the trip report mate, not a trip I'd be able to do but got a buzz
from you sharing your fun. One question tho, why did the rope coming off
the back of the tow boat (towing the skiffs) have 3 knots in it? Was it
getting caught in the prop?


It wasn't getting caught in the prop, but other than that I have no
idea. Those guys have it figured out.

Some time soon I'll post a video of a really rough trip back to
Alphonse. I mean seriously rough. Major, super-duty rough. Like scary
looking-for-life-jackets rough. That might clarify it for you.

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Fred May 7th, 2010 03:27 PM

TR: Seychelles
 

On 6-May-2010, jeff wrote:

n 5/6/2010 6:57 PM, Larry L wrote:
On May 6, 3:01 pm, wrote:
pg

Great trip. I'll be going back.



Pretty damn cool


friggin fantastic stuff. thanks for taking me to a place i'll never
visit...and for the effort you took to share your experience. pretty
damn cool, indeed!


I agree- Thanks for the TR and Great fotos

Fred

rw May 7th, 2010 03:45 PM

TR: Seychelles
 
On 5/7/10 8:27 AM, Fred wrote:
On 6-May-2010, wrote:

n 5/6/2010 6:57 PM, Larry L wrote:
On May 6, 3:01 pm, wrote:
pg

Great trip. I'll be going back.



Pretty damn cool


friggin fantastic stuff. thanks for taking me to a place i'll never
visit...and for the effort you took to share your experience. pretty
damn cool, indeed!


I agree- Thanks for the TR and Great fotos

Fred


Just wondering -- did you guys see the videos? Did they work?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

JT May 7th, 2010 04:29 PM

TR: Seychelles
 


"rw" wrote in message
...

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...arth_Image.jpg

The resort is on Alphonse Island (top in the photo). The fishing is on the
flats of St. Francois Island (bottom). Both are coral atolls. In between
them is the small island of Bijoutier.


Looks like a spectacular trip Steve,

Thanks for sharing,
JT



David LaCourse May 7th, 2010 04:35 PM

TR: Seychelles
 
On 2010-05-07 10:45:02 -0400, rw said:

Just wondering -- did you guys see the videos? Did they work?


Saw the one with Mike landing a small bone, but the naration really
sucked. d;o)

The tortoise one wouldn't download, probably because of the slow
service we have here in the mountains.

Great photography.



JT May 7th, 2010 04:46 PM

TR: Seychelles
 


"rw" wrote in message
...

Just wondering -- did you guys see the videos? Did they work?


They worked for me, took a bit to download but good video.
How tall was the tortoise at the top of the shell?
The fishing video puts my mind to dreaming...

Thanks,
JT



rw May 7th, 2010 09:46 PM

TR: Seychelles
 
On 5/7/10 9:46 AM, JT wrote:


"rw" wrote in message
...

Just wondering -- did you guys see the videos? Did they work?


They worked for me, took a bit to download but good video.
How tall was the tortoise at the top of the shell?
The fishing video puts my mind to dreaming...

Thanks,
JT



I'd guess it was almost three feet tall. It was freaking enormous.

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David LaCourse May 7th, 2010 09:49 PM

TR: Seychelles
 
On 2010-05-07 10:45:02 -0400, rw said:

On 5/7/10 8:27 AM, Fred wrote:
On 6-May-2010, wrote:

n 5/6/2010 6:57 PM, Larry L wrote:
On May 6, 3:01 pm, wrote:
pg

Great trip. I'll be going back.



Pretty damn cool

friggin fantastic stuff. thanks for taking me to a place i'll never
visit...and for the effort you took to share your experience. pretty
damn cool, indeed!


I agree- Thanks for the TR and Great fotos

Fred


Just wondering -- did you guys see the videos? Did they work?


Finally down-loaded the tortoise vid. Cool. Here is some info on
them. Pretty big AND old. Some have lived more than 200 years.





David LaCourse May 7th, 2010 10:01 PM

TR: Seychelles
 
Oooooops. Forgot the link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldabra_Giant_Tortoise



Frank Reid © 2010 May 8th, 2010 04:06 AM

TR: Seychelles
 

Awesome. Do you have a blog? It would be great to put this all
together as a pictorial with the text. I would love to hook into one
of those "geet."
Frank Reid
(you looking for a ghillie?).

jeff May 8th, 2010 11:22 AM

TR: Seychelles
 
On 5/7/2010 10:45 AM, rw wrote:
On 5/7/10 8:27 AM, Fred wrote:
On 6-May-2010, wrote:

n 5/6/2010 6:57 PM, Larry L wrote:
On May 6, 3:01 pm, wrote:
pg

Great trip. I'll be going back.



Pretty damn cool

friggin fantastic stuff. thanks for taking me to a place i'll never
visit...and for the effort you took to share your experience. pretty
damn cool, indeed!


I agree- Thanks for the TR and Great fotos

Fred


Just wondering -- did you guys see the videos? Did they work?


the big Q for quicktime showed up, but vids never loaded for me...

jeff

rw May 8th, 2010 12:14 PM

TR: Seychelles
 
On 5/7/10 9:06 PM, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:

Awesome. Do you have a blog? It would be great to put this all
together as a pictorial with the text. I would love to hook into one
of those "geet."
Frank Reid
(you looking for a ghillie?).


I have a web site (where the photos are) but I don't have at the moment
have software to create a "blog." Maybe I'll look into that.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Fred May 8th, 2010 05:38 PM

TR: Seychelles
 

On 6-May-2010, rw wrote:

Lunch on the water. Back to Alphonse at 5:30. Shower, take care of gear,
dinner at 7:00, back to the chalet at 9:00, set alarm, crash, repeat. No
down time for snorkeling and lying about


I have a couple of questions for you, rw, about this trip:

How were the accomodations?
Seems world class ??

(I ask becuse if they have a spa and other activities I could convince SWMBO
& I will run this trip by her)

It has to be warmer than Montana in Winter


Did you book this trip yourself or thru an outfoitter?

Did you shoot the fotos and video for yourself? or for a website or
publication?

Again thanks for sharing this "great" trip and congratulations on a great
trip


Fred

Russell D. May 8th, 2010 06:11 PM

TR: Seychelles
 
On 05/06/2010 04:01 PM, rw wrote:

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...arth_Image.jpg

The resort is on Alphonse Island (top in the photo). The fishing is on
the flats of St. Francois Island (bottom). Both are coral atolls. In
between them is the small island of Bijoutier.


Great stuff snipped

Thanks, Steve, that was friggin' awesome. Absolutely wonderful pictures.
Thanks for the morning tag along.

Russell

Russell D. May 8th, 2010 06:16 PM

TR: Seychelles
 
On 05/08/2010 05:14 AM, rw wrote:
On 5/7/10 9:06 PM, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:

Awesome. Do you have a blog? It would be great to put this all
together as a pictorial with the text. I would love to hook into one
of those "geet."
Frank Reid
(you looking for a ghillie?).


I have a web site (where the photos are) but I don't have at the moment
have software to create a "blog." Maybe I'll look into that.


There are a gazillion worthless blogs out there. This would not fit that
category. Do it.

Russell

rw May 8th, 2010 09:48 PM

TR: Seychelles
 
On 5/8/10 10:38 AM, Fred wrote:
On 6-May-2010, wrote:

Lunch on the water. Back to Alphonse at 5:30. Shower, take care of gear,
dinner at 7:00, back to the chalet at 9:00, set alarm, crash, repeat. No
down time for snorkeling and lying about


I have a couple of questions for you, rw, about this trip:

How were the accomodations?


First rate.

Seems world class ??

(I ask becuse if they have a spa and other activities I could convince SWMBO
& I will run this trip by her)


I wouldn't recommend this for someone who isn't mainly interesting in
fishing or diving.


It has to be warmer than Montana in Winter


That's a safe assumption.

Did you book this trip yourself or thru an outfoitter?


I went through Angler Adventures. Frontiers also books these trips.

Did you shoot the fotos and video for yourself? or for a website or
publication?


Shot them myself (except for the ones I'm in, of course, and the volcano
photo and the Google Earth screenshot).

I just received via email a couple of photos of the GT that Roy, the
guide, shot with his camera. They're much better than mine. I'll post
links when I get a chance.

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Fred May 8th, 2010 10:41 PM

TR: Seychelles
 

On 8-May-2010, rw wrote:

I wouldn't recommend this for someone who isn't mainly interesting in
fishing or diving.


Thanks

Fred

David LaCourse May 8th, 2010 10:56 PM

TR: Seychelles
 
On 2010-05-08 16:48:12 -0400, rw said

I wouldn't recommend this for someone who isn't mainly interesting in
fishing or diving.


Diving..... Do they have masks, snorkels, fins, and pfd the guests can
use? If I go, and that is the plan at the moment (although Jo doesn't
know it), it would be nice to take a day off of fishing and do some
snorkeling. Weight restrictions would prevent bringing my own stuff.

BTW, Steve, how was the food? The accomodations look first class, but
I should think the logistics of getting fresh food to such an isolated
place would be difficult. What about wine, beer, and some of that
wayno stuff (see throughs)?

Dave



rw May 8th, 2010 11:18 PM

TR: Seychelles
 
On 5/8/10 3:56 PM, David LaCourse wrote:
On 2010-05-08 16:48:12 -0400, rw said

I wouldn't recommend this for someone who isn't mainly interesting in
fishing or diving.


Diving..... Do they have masks, snorkels, fins, and pfd the guests can
use? If I go, and that is the plan at the moment (although Jo doesn't
know it), it would be nice to take a day off of fishing and do some
snorkeling. Weight restrictions would prevent bringing my own stuff.


Yes, they have that stuff. I love snorkeling but never had a chance to
do it.

BTW, Steve, how was the food? The accomodations look first class, but I
should think the logistics of getting fresh food to such an isolated
place would be difficult. What about wine, beer, and some of that wayno
stuff (see throughs)?


The food (all meals included) is excellent -- very fancy. Drinks (not
included) are extremely expensive. Take your own.

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Fred May 8th, 2010 11:23 PM

TR: Seychelles
 

said


I wouldn't recommend this for someone who isn't mainly interesting in
fishing or diving.

On 8-May-2010, David LaCourse wrote:

If I go, and that is the plan at the moment (although Jo doesn't
know it), it would be nice to take a day off of fishing and do some
snorkeling


One other question please - Are the islands French speaking or at least the
predominant language?

The problem that I have is that because the trip is not inexpensive
my wife would want to go -and to be fair to my Joanne, I can understand why
I have gone on other "costly" fishing trips w friends or by myself
But now w a 2 -3 week or so trip and the expense
My wife would definitely want to go -Perhaps there is a compromise here??

She doesn't really fly fish
She has mnade attempts but she wopuld sooner read a book or so while I fish
And I myself would like to do some other things besides fishing
I have done a regimen similar to yours at other lodges and deduced that 6
straight days of fishing
It is not what I would want either
Anyway we don't get paid for it and we like sleeping later than 5:30
Ists vaca not work
We would like to take a few days and dive or do some tourist activities,
photography,watching wildlife or some typical vacationing
things,(helicopter trips)

I will contact Frontiers and gert further info

Thanks

Muammar al-Gaddafi

rw May 9th, 2010 01:53 AM

TR: Seychelles
 
On 5/8/10 4:23 PM, Fred wrote:

One other question please - Are the islands French speaking or at least the
predominant language?


The Seychelles was originally a French colony. The British took it in
1814. The people in Mahe can get along in sometimes broken French and
English. Among themselves they speak a Creole that was unintelligible to me.

The Alphonse Island resort is a South African operation. Everyone with
the exception of two guides (Roy, a Norwegian, and Scott, an American)
was South African. English is the language, unless you speak Afrikaans. :-)

The problem that I have is that because the trip is not inexpensive
my wife would want to go -and to be fair to my Joanne, I can understand why
I have gone on other "costly" fishing trips w friends or by myself
But now w a 2 -3 week or so trip and the expense
My wife would definitely want to go -Perhaps there is a compromise here??


The trip cost about $10,000. Maybe a little more. That's single
occupancy. Give Joanne $10,000 and tell her she can go where ever she
wants while you're in the Seychelles.

Anyway we don't get paid for it and we like sleeping later than 5:30


You have to be on the Tam Tam by 7:00. Take it or leave it. This is
serious, all-day, all-week flats fishing. That's why people go there.
It's the best in the world.

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Fred May 9th, 2010 06:05 AM

TR: Seychelles
 

On 8-May-2010, rw wrote:

The trip cost about $10,000. Maybe a little more. That's single
occupancy. Give Joanne $10,000 and tell her she can go where ever she
wants while you're in the Seychelles.


==
I will but you will meet her

Anyway we don't get paid for it and we like sleeping later than 5:30


You have to be on the Tam Tam by 7:00. Take it or leave it. This is
serious, all-day, all-week flats fishing. That's why people go there.
It's the best in the world.

There is my compromise man!
It is being discussed as of May 8 as i have e-mailed her all info and a
call to Fronteirs on Mon

I used to be fluent in French- not so now
But from what you tell me I am sure I would underatand very little Aanywaty
\
It is fun - for me - to speak their langauges French and Spanish and and
When I went to ea place I did at least attemt to speak the language
and it was fun and you learn esp w French that their language is far more
expressive than English perrhaps MORE "emotional content"

Patagonia HAblo Esoanol
pero
We will see
Its being mulled over and brewing in our brains

We will discuss it- I hope to hoist a brew or 2 w you

-not too far away and hopefully warmer

Don Drysdale

DaveS May 10th, 2010 02:11 AM

TR: Seychelles
 
On May 6, 3:01*pm, rw wrote:
http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...arth_Image.jpg

The resort is on Alphonse Island (top in the photo). The fishing is on
the flats of St. Francois Island (bottom). Both are coral atolls. In
between them is the small island of Bijoutier.

The Seychelles are difficult to get to, especially from Stanley, Idaho,
and especially when an unpronounceable volcano in Iceland is shutting
down air traffic in Europe:

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...allajokull.jpg

I sweated bullets for a week before getting on one of the first planes
allowed to fly from the US to Paris.

Overnighted in the City of Light. Paris lived up to it that beautiful
day. My hotel was across the Seine from Notre Dame Cathedral. Walked
through the Tuileries and visited the Musee D'Orsay.

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0138.jpg

The next day -- 10 hours to Mahe Island, Seychelles. Facing a six-hour
layover in the Mahe airport, I took a cab to Victoria, the capital of
the Seychelles. Friday was fish market day.

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0154.jpg

The routine at Alphonse is: up at 5:30, breakfast at 6:00, get on the
Tam Tam at 7:00,

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0292.jpg

45 minutes to St. Francois, towing the skiffs,

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMGP0732.jpg

then take a skiff to the vast flats of the St. Francois lagoon.

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0208.jpg

Lunch on the water. Back to Alphonse at 5:30. Shower, take care of gear,
dinner at 7:00, back to the chalet at 9:00, set alarm, crash, repeat. No
down time for snorkeling and lying about.

Everything good you may have heard about the bonefishing on St. Francois
is true. We fished the tidal drop in the morning and the push in the
afternoon. I caught, conservatively, over 100 bones, and could have
caught twice as many if that were my only goal. The bones flood onto and
out of the flats with the tides by the thousands, concentrating along
the channels. They're just as difficult to spot and catch as usual, but
you get MANY more shots.

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMGP0767.jpg

At low tide the bones are in the deep and at high tide they're dispersed
over the flats, so we do something else. I caught this Giant Trevally
(a GT or "Geet" in the local way of speaking) at high tide, during the
most amazing fishing experience I've ever had.

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMGP0747.jpg

A huge school of mullet was circulating on a flat in a bait ball, herded
by *the predatory trevally. Not only that, there were thousands of
bonefish all around, like spectators to the carnage. This Geet was 107cm
and 57lb. After releasing it I caught bones on every cast until I got bored.

At high tide we might do some reef fishing for mystery species. Here's
one of the prettiest, an Emperor.

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0184.jpg

Caught of few of these bluefin trevally, and lost three to lemon sharks.

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMGP0755.jpg

All the guides were good, but Roy, a Norwegian, was my favorite. Here's
Roy with a nice bone caught with my rod while we were surf walking for
Geets. The bones in the surf have a green color, distinct from the flats
fish.

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMGP0764.jpg

Roy cuts a striking pose.

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMGP0737.jpg

Mike, my fishing partner for the week, is one of the most interesting
men I've ever met. An anthropologist/archaeologist, Professor Emeritus
of Yale, author of several books, he's perhaps the foremost authority of
the Pre-Columbian civilizations of Mesoamerica, especially the Maya.
He's fished nearly everywhere I've ever heard of and many I haven't, and
he's a superb raconteur. At 82 years old he's going strong.

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0176.jpg

Here's a video of Mike catching the first bone of the day:

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbum/MVI_0182.MOV

Only ten rods are allowed on St. Francois. On this trip there were four
of us. Charles (left) is from Scotland and John is from the north of
England, both excellent companions. Charles caught a 127cm, 80+ lb Geet
that was the largest taken this season. John caught a nice Geet, hooked
up with, but lost, a milkfish, and caught a very nice trigger fish.

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0177.jpg

Another favorite guide, Scott, has a place in Fairfield, ID, not far
from Stanley. We have some mutual Idaho friends. In the summer Scott
guides at Enchanted Lake Lodge in Alaska.

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0196.jpg

Here's the full group, both guides and sports. Left to right: Serge,
Devon, Roy, Andrew, Steve (me), Charles, James, John, Mike, Scott.

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0219.jpg

There are lots of interesting creatures in the islands.

Land crabs:

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0247.jpg

Grey Herons:

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0320.jpg

Fairy Tern:

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0239.jpg

Giant Tortoise:

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMGP0731.jpg

The astonishing size of these tortoises isn't apparent in the photo.
Here's a video that perhaps gives a better impression:

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbum/MVI_0167.MOV

Large, intimidating-looking, but harmless spiders:

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0244.jpg

Gecko:

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0246.jpg

Eel:

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0311.jpg

Frigate Birds:http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMGP0763.jpg

There were many animals I didn't photograph: several types of rays,
sharks, sea turtles, dolphins, etc.

Here are some miscellaneous scenery photos:

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0294.jpg

Alphonse Island was established as a coconut plantation in the 19th
century. This cemetery dates from about 1860.

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0253.jpg

The sky is often beautiful.

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/~troutbu...s/IMG_0229.jpg

Great trip. I'll be going back.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.


Great TR. Thanx.

From your text the "Mike" you fished with has to be Michael Coe, whose
book "Breaking the Mayan Code" publicized the true story of the
deciferment of the written Mayan language. Credit for figuring out
that the Mayan inscriptions were a written phoenetic spelling system
goes to a young Russian, Yuri Knorozoz, in 1952. But many others have
moved the work forward. Coe was one of the few Western scholars to
give Knorozov findings a fair hearing. But it was not until the 1970s
that the English/American propaganda war against just about anything
coming out of Communist Russia was overcome and academic and field
research was freed. Linda Schele (U of Texas) is the person I credit
most, who, along with others put together the incredible story, from
the Mayan's own written word, of the "Star Wars" that led to the
destruction and abandonment of the great Mayan cities. Despite the
factual accounts left by the Mayan writers, popular speculation and
political convience as to the causes of the abandonment still include
much nonsence. Maybe that's because the written record clearly points
the fingure at an out of control, greedy, priesthood and a bloated
noble class which weighed so heavily on the worker bees, that
ultimately the worker bees just walked away. In the 1940-1960s such a
conclusion was not acceptable to the ideologically motivated Cold
Warriors. Consequently, funding went to compliant academics. Coe was
one of the good guys. Yale's games around repatriation of Inca and
Matchu Pichu materials is a less noble chapter.

Dave

rw May 10th, 2010 02:57 AM

TR: Seychelles
 
On 5/9/10 7:11 PM, DaveS wrote:

Great TR. Thanx.

From your text the "Mike" you fished with has to be Michael Coe, whose
book "Breaking the Mayan Code" publicized the true story of the
deciferment of the written Mayan language.


Mike's been a serious fisherman for all of his long life. He's fished
everywhere.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Jonathan Cook May 11th, 2010 06:32 PM

TR: Seychelles
 
On May 6, 4:01*pm, rw wrote:

Great trip. I'll be going back.


Thanks for sharing, looked like a fine time. Not that I'd pass up a
free trip offer, but for some reason flats fishing doesn't excite me
very much. I'm sure it'd be fun and fine and all that, but I don't
ever see myself going out of my way to pursue flats fishing. About the
only thing in S/W that appeals to me enough to perhaps plan a trip for
is hooking up on a big (50+?) tarpon on the fly. Different strokes I
guess.

Jon.

Jarmo Hurri[_2_] May 25th, 2010 12:03 PM

TR: Seychelles
 

A nice report with excellent photos, thank you very much. Perfect timing
as well, because reading it didn't hurt that much now that the summer is
here.

--
Jarmo Hurri

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