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Wayne Knight May 9th, 2010 12:21 AM

OT- Boasting just a bit about getting the act together
 
This isn't going to rival Steve's fine report but I needed to boast a
wee bit to somebody and ROFF it is.

Beginning in 1992 when I started traveling as a consultant I began
chain smoking and eating like someone escaping a famine and entering a
McDonalds for the first time. At the same time I quit even the basic
activities I was doing like playing softball and taking long strolls/
hikes. By the time I turned 50 in 2008 I was over the 320 lb mark and
last year when I fished with Mr. Fortenberry in Michigan I was
carrying around 338 lbs. Even with a couple of hospital admissions for
a misfiring heart and the onset of Diabetes I would often jest my last
words were going to be "one more donut/cigarette isn't going to kill
me"

The last few years I had been mostly confined to roadside fishing.
Last May I couldn't make one of the easier hikes a mile or so in to a
brookie stream in the Smokys without stopping to catch my breath every
100 yards or so. In June, while fishing with Mr. Fortenberry on the
Jordan River, I proceeded to do Mr. Reid proud in quicksand laced
waters with a depth of 2'. On the way home from my cut short trip to
Michigan, I knew something had to change.

Last July 7th I consulted a physician, dietician, and trainer and
started a slow process to fitness. This morning I weighed in at 230
lbs and ran (slowly jogged is more like it) the Indianapolis Half
Marathon. I didn't set any records and won't be invited to Boston
Marathon anytime soon but I finished the darn thing. While I can't
confess to being smoke free, a pack now lasts me weeks and not hours.
In the morning I am heading out for Fontana Lake and catching the
ferry to the Hazel Creek trail for a three day backpacking excursion
to its headwaters. Provided I don't become bear poop, I will post some
kind of a report when I return next weekend. Nothing as nice as
Steve's but a report that won't involve much roadside fishing except
for a planned head hunting trip for bigger browns in the Little River
on the way home from NC.

Thanks for reading


Fred May 9th, 2010 01:29 AM

OT- Boasting just a bit about getting the act together
 

On 8-May-2010, Wayne Knight wrote:

This isn't going to rival Steve's fine report but I needed to boast a
wee bit to somebody and ROFF it is.

Beginning in 1992 when I started traveling as a consultant I began
chain smoking and eating like someone escaping a famine and entering a
McDonalds for the first time. At the same time I quit even the basic
activities I was doing like playing softball and taking long strolls/
hikes. By the time I turned 50 in 2008 I was over the 320 lb mark and
last year when I fished with Mr. Fortenberry in Michigan I was
carrying around 338 lbs. Even with a couple of hospital admissions for
a misfiring heart and the onset of Diabetes I would often jest my last
words were going to be "one more donut/cigarette isn't going to kill
me"

The last few years I had been mostly confined to roadside fishing.
Last May I couldn't make one of the easier hikes a mile or so in to a
brookie stream in the Smokys without stopping to catch my breath every
100 yards or so. In June, while fishing with Mr. Fortenberry on the
Jordan River, I proceeded to do Mr. Reid proud in quicksand laced
waters with a depth of 2'. On the way home from my cut short trip to
Michigan, I knew something had to change.

Last July 7th I consulted a physician, dietician, and trainer and
started a slow process to fitness. This morning I weighed in at 230
lbs and ran (slowly jogged is more like it) the Indianapolis Half
Marathon. I didn't set any records and won't be invited to Boston
Marathon anytime soon but I finished the darn thing. While I can't
confess to being smoke free, a pack now lasts me weeks and not hours.
In the morning I am heading out for Fontana Lake and catching the
ferry to the Hazel Creek trail for a three day backpacking excursion
to its headwaters. Provided I don't become bear poop, I will post some
kind of a report when I return next weekend. Nothing as nice as
Steve's but a report that won't involve much roadside fishing except
for a planned head hunting trip for bigger browns in the Little River
on the way home from NC.


Wayne

Unless you are another of Forty's fictional and evil minions
I would like to say
Congratulations man!
Keep it up
..

Try to quit smoking, as you wean yourself off of them - My wife and
daiughter have tried the smokeless cigarettes and it has helped them to cut
down considerably

Its a stupid unhealthy and dirty habit
And your family probably needs you

As you get older its harder to maintain a good weight - more exercise
Less food is easy for me but
I have to exercise doing somethinhg I like while exercising -
riding a bike, a treadmill whatever it may be - do it!

Music -

Can get me thru a workout - I have an mp3 player- one of the greatest
inventions ever.

Don't be intimidated by Steve's TR

Everyone has their own experiences and anything that you share I would hope
will be read and appreciated by all or most on this list -

Thanks for sharing your dilemma - It is unfortunately not uncommon
Nor is it OT

Keep it up

(if you are one of Forty's multitude of minions then I have been fooled
again)


Jack Lalanne






Fred

rw May 9th, 2010 01:57 AM

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Awesome story, Wayne. Looking forward to the TR.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

David LaCourse May 9th, 2010 02:52 AM

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On 2010-05-08 19:21:20 -0400, Wayne Knight said:

This isn't going to rival Steve's fine report but I needed to boast a
wee bit to somebody and ROFF it is.


A story like that needs boasting, so boast away some more. Congrats on
the cigarettes and weight. Giving up the butts can be very difficult,
but after 15 years butt free, I can tell you you'll be better without
them.

From 338 to 230 is one helluva chore. Congrats. I need to do
something about my weight - I have gained 10 pounds here in Georgia,
and am now at 225.

Dave



Frank Reid © 2010 May 9th, 2010 04:15 AM

OT- Boasting just a bit about getting the act together
 
On May 8, 6:21*pm, Wayne Knight wrote:
This isn't going to rival Steve's fine report but I needed to boast a
wee bit to somebody and ROFF it is.

Beginning in 1992 when I started traveling as a consultant I began
chain smoking and eating like someone escaping a famine and entering a
McDonalds for the first time. At the same time I quit even the basic
activities I was doing like playing softball and taking long strolls/
hikes. By the time I turned 50 in 2008 I was over the 320 lb mark and
last year when I fished with Mr. Fortenberry in Michigan I was
carrying around 338 lbs. Even with a couple of hospital admissions for
a misfiring heart and the onset of Diabetes I would often jest my last
words were going to be "one more donut/cigarette isn't going to kill
me"

The last few years I had been mostly confined to roadside fishing.
Last May I couldn't make one of the easier hikes a mile or so in to a
brookie stream in the Smokys without stopping to catch my breath every
100 yards or so. In June, while fishing with Mr. Fortenberry on the
Jordan River, I proceeded to do Mr. Reid proud in quicksand laced
waters with a depth of 2'. On the way home from my cut short trip to
Michigan, I knew something had to change.

Last July 7th I consulted a physician, dietician, and trainer and
started a slow process to fitness. This morning I weighed in at 230
lbs and ran (slowly jogged is more like it) the Indianapolis Half
Marathon. I didn't set any records and won't be invited to Boston
Marathon anytime soon but I finished the darn thing. While I can't
confess to being smoke free, a pack now lasts me weeks and not hours.
In the morning I am heading out for Fontana Lake *and catching the
ferry to the Hazel Creek trail for a three day backpacking excursion
to its headwaters. Provided I don't become bear poop, I will post some
kind of a report when I return next weekend. Nothing as nice as
Steve's but a report that won't involve much roadside fishing except
for a planned head hunting trip for bigger browns in the Little River
on the way home from NC.

Thanks for reading


Nothing snipped. When I talked to you on the phone the other day, I
was gobsmacked. 115 lbs, running half marathons, you da man.
Congrats my friend.

Ken Fortenberry May 9th, 2010 04:35 AM

OT- Boasting just a bit about getting the act together
 
Wayne Knight wrote:
This isn't going to rival Steve's fine report but I needed to boast a
wee bit to somebody and ROFF it is.

Beginning in 1992 when I started traveling as a consultant I began
chain smoking and eating like someone escaping a famine and entering a
McDonalds for the first time. At the same time I quit even the basic
activities I was doing like playing softball and taking long strolls/
hikes. By the time I turned 50 in 2008 I was over the 320 lb mark and
last year when I fished with Mr. Fortenberry in Michigan I was
carrying around 338 lbs. Even with a couple of hospital admissions for
a misfiring heart and the onset of Diabetes I would often jest my last
words were going to be "one more donut/cigarette isn't going to kill
me"

The last few years I had been mostly confined to roadside fishing.
Last May I couldn't make one of the easier hikes a mile or so in to a
brookie stream in the Smokys without stopping to catch my breath every
100 yards or so. In June, while fishing with Mr. Fortenberry on the
Jordan River, I proceeded to do Mr. Reid proud in quicksand laced
waters with a depth of 2'. On the way home from my cut short trip to
Michigan, I knew something had to change.

Last July 7th I consulted a physician, dietician, and trainer and
started a slow process to fitness. This morning I weighed in at 230
lbs and ran (slowly jogged is more like it) the Indianapolis Half
Marathon. I didn't set any records and won't be invited to Boston
Marathon anytime soon but I finished the darn thing. While I can't
confess to being smoke free, a pack now lasts me weeks and not hours.
In the morning I am heading out for Fontana Lake and catching the
ferry to the Hazel Creek trail for a three day backpacking excursion
to its headwaters. Provided I don't become bear poop, I will post some
kind of a report when I return next weekend. Nothing as nice as
Steve's but a report that won't involve much roadside fishing except
for a planned head hunting trip for bigger browns in the Little River
on the way home from NC.

Thanks for reading


Way to go old friend. That's a hell of a lot of progress in less
than a year. If you had told me last year that you were going to
run a half marathon within a year I wouldn't have believed it.
Nicely done.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Mark Bowen May 9th, 2010 12:35 PM

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Great to hear Wayne!

Just took a measure of my own weight--220lbs. I too need to quit dippin' and
smokin', begin exercisin' and drop to about 180 lbs. I completed the MPA
program and figure on takin' at least a year off before applying to a
doctoral program, which will also depend on whether I can land a job in
local government. If I land a job as a town/city/county manager, the
doctoral schooling will go the way of the doo doo.

Anyway, I hope that in a year I can report similar good news as you. Have a
great trip on Hazel and remember you don't have to out run the bear, you
only have to out run your fishin' buddy!

Op

"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
...
This isn't going to rival Steve's fine report but I needed to boast a
wee bit to somebody and ROFF it is.

Beginning in 1992 when I started traveling as a consultant I began
chain smoking and eating like someone escaping a famine and entering a
McDonalds for the first time. At the same time I quit even the basic
activities I was doing like playing softball and taking long strolls/
hikes. By the time I turned 50 in 2008 I was over the 320 lb mark and
last year when I fished with Mr. Fortenberry in Michigan I was
carrying around 338 lbs. Even with a couple of hospital admissions for
a misfiring heart and the onset of Diabetes I would often jest my last
words were going to be "one more donut/cigarette isn't going to kill
me"

The last few years I had been mostly confined to roadside fishing.
Last May I couldn't make one of the easier hikes a mile or so in to a
brookie stream in the Smokys without stopping to catch my breath every
100 yards or so. In June, while fishing with Mr. Fortenberry on the
Jordan River, I proceeded to do Mr. Reid proud in quicksand laced
waters with a depth of 2'. On the way home from my cut short trip to
Michigan, I knew something had to change.

Last July 7th I consulted a physician, dietician, and trainer and
started a slow process to fitness. This morning I weighed in at 230
lbs and ran (slowly jogged is more like it) the Indianapolis Half
Marathon. I didn't set any records and won't be invited to Boston
Marathon anytime soon but I finished the darn thing. While I can't
confess to being smoke free, a pack now lasts me weeks and not hours.
In the morning I am heading out for Fontana Lake and catching the
ferry to the Hazel Creek trail for a three day backpacking excursion
to its headwaters. Provided I don't become bear poop, I will post some
kind of a report when I return next weekend. Nothing as nice as
Steve's but a report that won't involve much roadside fishing except
for a planned head hunting trip for bigger browns in the Little River
on the way home from NC.

Thanks for reading




Tom Littleton[_2_] May 9th, 2010 01:28 PM

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"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
...

snipped, a report, which in it's own way is every bit as inspirational as
RW's

good to hear that 'report'. Enjoy, and get back safely.
Tom



MajorOz May 9th, 2010 07:34 PM

OT- Boasting just a bit about getting the act together
 
On May 8, 6:21*pm, Wayne Knight wrote:
This isn't going to rival Steve's fine report but I needed to boast a
wee bit to somebody and ROFF it is.

Beginning in 1992 when I started traveling as a consultant I began
chain smoking and eating like someone escaping a famine and entering a
McDonalds for the first time. At the same time I quit even the basic
activities I was doing like playing softball and taking long strolls/
hikes. By the time I turned 50 in 2008 I was over the 320 lb mark and
last year when I fished with Mr. Fortenberry in Michigan I was
carrying around 338 lbs. Even with a couple of hospital admissions for
a misfiring heart and the onset of Diabetes I would often jest my last
words were going to be "one more donut/cigarette isn't going to kill
me"

The last few years I had been mostly confined to roadside fishing.
Last May I couldn't make one of the easier hikes a mile or so in to a
brookie stream in the Smokys without stopping to catch my breath every
100 yards or so. In June, while fishing with Mr. Fortenberry on the
Jordan River, I proceeded to do Mr. Reid proud in quicksand laced
waters with a depth of 2'. On the way home from my cut short trip to
Michigan, I knew something had to change.

Last July 7th I consulted a physician, dietician, and trainer and
started a slow process to fitness. This morning I weighed in at 230
lbs and ran (slowly jogged is more like it) the Indianapolis Half
Marathon. I didn't set any records and won't be invited to Boston
Marathon anytime soon but I finished the darn thing. While I can't
confess to being smoke free, a pack now lasts me weeks and not hours.
In the morning I am heading out for Fontana Lake *and catching the
ferry to the Hazel Creek trail for a three day backpacking excursion
to its headwaters. Provided I don't become bear poop, I will post some
kind of a report when I return next weekend. Nothing as nice as
Steve's but a report that won't involve much roadside fishing except
for a planned head hunting trip for bigger browns in the Little River
on the way home from NC.

Thanks for reading


Well done, friend. The "quit smoking" will come. Don't respond to
nagging. You quit for yourself when you do.

I've been off of them for 36 years and LOVE them. But, for me, it
doesn't make sense.

Good luck

oz

Conan The Librarian May 9th, 2010 08:53 PM

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On May 8, 6:21*pm, Wayne Knight wrote:
This isn't going to rival Steve's fine report but I needed to boast a
wee bit to somebody and ROFF it is.

Beginning in 1992 when I started traveling as a consultant I began
chain smoking and eating like someone escaping a famine and entering a
McDonalds for the first time. At the same time I quit even the basic
activities I was doing like playing softball and taking long strolls/
hikes. By the time I turned 50 in 2008 I was over the 320 lb mark and
last year when I fished with Mr. Fortenberry in Michigan I was
carrying around 338 lbs. Even with a couple of hospital admissions for
a misfiring heart and the onset of Diabetes I would often jest my last
words were going to be "one more donut/cigarette isn't going to kill
me"

The last few years I had been mostly confined to roadside fishing.
Last May I couldn't make one of the easier hikes a mile or so in to a
brookie stream in the Smokys without stopping to catch my breath every
100 yards or so. In June, while fishing with Mr. Fortenberry on the
Jordan River, I proceeded to do Mr. Reid proud in quicksand laced
waters with a depth of 2'. On the way home from my cut short trip to
Michigan, I knew something had to change.

Last July 7th I consulted a physician, dietician, and trainer and
started a slow process to fitness. This morning I weighed in at 230
lbs and ran (slowly jogged is more like it) the Indianapolis Half
Marathon. I didn't set any records and won't be invited to Boston
Marathon anytime soon but I finished the darn thing. While I can't
confess to being smoke free, a pack now lasts me weeks and not hours.
In the morning I am heading out for Fontana Lake *and catching the
ferry to the Hazel Creek trail for a three day backpacking excursion
to its headwaters. Provided I don't become bear poop, I will post some
kind of a report when I return next weekend. Nothing as nice as
Steve's but a report that won't involve much roadside fishing except
for a planned head hunting trip for bigger browns in the Little River
on the way home from NC.

Thanks for reading


Way to go, Wayne. I'm sorry I can't meet up with you in the
Smokies this year to maybe take a hike back to that little brookie
stream where I saw you last. :-)


Chuck Vance

riverman[_5_] May 10th, 2010 05:16 AM

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On May 9, 7:21*am, Wayne Knight wrote:

Last July 7th I consulted a physician, dietician, and trainer and
started a slow process to fitness. This morning I weighed in at 230
lbs and ran (slowly jogged is more like it) the Indianapolis Half
Marathon. I didn't set any records and won't be invited to Boston
Marathon anytime soon but I finished the darn thing. While I can't
confess to being smoke free, a pack now lasts me weeks and not hours.
In the morning I am heading out for Fontana Lake *and catching the
ferry to the Hazel Creek trail for a three day backpacking excursion
to its headwaters. Provided I don't become bear poop, I will post some
kind of a report when I return next weekend. Nothing as nice as
Steve's but a report that won't involve much roadside fishing except
for a planned head hunting trip for bigger browns in the Little River
on the way home from NC.

Thanks for reading


Wow! 108 lbs in 10 months, and a three day pack trip upcoming! You're
now smaller and more well-winded than I was when we met 3 years
ago...but not entirely because you've been decreasing, my friend. :-(

You've inspired me to start my own regimen...starting today. Brought
my gear to work. My current stat...237 lbs. My goal...to get down to
225 by June 15, and down to 210 by July 25. I'll keep all y'all
posted.


[email protected] May 10th, 2010 05:39 PM

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On Sat, 8 May 2010 16:21:20 -0700 (PDT), Wayne Knight
wrote:

This isn't going to rival Steve's fine report but I needed to boast a
wee bit to somebody and ROFF it is.

Beginning in 1992 when I started traveling as a consultant I began
chain smoking and eating like someone escaping a famine and entering a
McDonalds for the first time. At the same time I quit even the basic
activities I was doing like playing softball and taking long strolls/
hikes. By the time I turned 50 in 2008 I was over the 320 lb mark and
last year when I fished with Mr. Fortenberry in Michigan I was
carrying around 338 lbs. Even with a couple of hospital admissions for
a misfiring heart and the onset of Diabetes I would often jest my last
words were going to be "one more donut/cigarette isn't going to kill
me"

The last few years I had been mostly confined to roadside fishing.
Last May I couldn't make one of the easier hikes a mile or so in to a
brookie stream in the Smokys without stopping to catch my breath every
100 yards or so. In June, while fishing with Mr. Fortenberry on the
Jordan River, I proceeded to do Mr. Reid proud in quicksand laced
waters with a depth of 2'. On the way home from my cut short trip to
Michigan, I knew something had to change.

Last July 7th I consulted a physician, dietician, and trainer and
started a slow process to fitness. This morning I weighed in at 230
lbs and ran (slowly jogged is more like it) the Indianapolis Half
Marathon. I didn't set any records and won't be invited to Boston
Marathon anytime soon but I finished the darn thing. While I can't
confess to being smoke free, a pack now lasts me weeks and not hours.
In the morning I am heading out for Fontana Lake and catching the
ferry to the Hazel Creek trail for a three day backpacking excursion
to its headwaters. Provided I don't become bear poop, I will post some
kind of a report when I return next weekend. Nothing as nice as
Steve's but a report that won't involve much roadside fishing except
for a planned head hunting trip for bigger browns in the Little River
on the way home from NC.

Thanks for reading


Thanks for sharing, and glad to hear of your success. And FWIW, if a pack lasts
"weeks," that's only about 1 cigarette a day. Aside from insurance "tobacco
use," I'd be curious to find out if such is even still (objectively, from a
medical POV) actually "smoking." I guess my point is, is that if you can keep
it to that level and keep the weight off, etc., how much real damage, if any, is
1 a day actually doing? Of course, that said, I can't imagine that even 1 a day
is _good_ for anyone, so if you decide to kick it completely, good luck with
doing so.

TC,
R

Giles May 11th, 2010 04:04 AM

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On May 10, 11:39*am, wrote:
On Sat, 8 May 2010 16:21:20 -0700 (PDT), Wayne Knight
wrote:





This isn't going to rival Steve's fine report but I needed to boast a
wee bit to somebody and ROFF it is.


Beginning in 1992 when I started traveling as a consultant I began
chain smoking and eating like someone escaping a famine and entering a
McDonalds for the first time. At the same time I quit even the basic
activities I was doing like playing softball and taking long strolls/
hikes. By the time I turned 50 in 2008 I was over the 320 lb mark and
last year when I fished with Mr. Fortenberry in Michigan I was
carrying around 338 lbs. Even with a couple of hospital admissions for
a misfiring heart and the onset of Diabetes I would often jest my last
words were going to be "one more donut/cigarette isn't going to kill
me"


The last few years I had been mostly confined to roadside fishing.
Last May I couldn't make one of the easier hikes a mile or so in to a
brookie stream in the Smokys without stopping to catch my breath every
100 yards or so. In June, while fishing with Mr. Fortenberry on the
Jordan River, I proceeded to do Mr. Reid proud in quicksand laced
waters with a depth of 2'. On the way home from my cut short trip to
Michigan, I knew something had to change.


Last July 7th I consulted a physician, dietician, and trainer and
started a slow process to fitness. This morning I weighed in at 230
lbs and ran (slowly jogged is more like it) the Indianapolis Half
Marathon. I didn't set any records and won't be invited to Boston
Marathon anytime soon but I finished the darn thing. While I can't
confess to being smoke free, a pack now lasts me weeks and not hours.
In the morning I am heading out for Fontana Lake *and catching the
ferry to the Hazel Creek trail for a three day backpacking excursion
to its headwaters. Provided I don't become bear poop, I will post some
kind of a report when I return next weekend. Nothing as nice as
Steve's but a report that won't involve much roadside fishing except
for a planned head hunting trip for bigger browns in the Little River
on the way home from NC.


Thanks for reading


Thanks for sharing, and glad to hear of your success. *And FWIW, if a pack lasts
"weeks," that's only about 1 cigarette a day.


Well, if it's 2 weeks that works out to a bit more than 1 cigarette a
day. On the other hand, if we're talking 18 weeks it's a good deal
less than 1 cigarette a day. Chocolate and vanilla.

Aside from insurance "tobacco
use," I'd be curious to find out if such is even still (objectively, from a
medical POV) actually "smoking."


No, it's only actually smoking (objectively, from a medical POV) if
you smoke 11 1/2 or more per week. Anything less than that is
considered discretionary reading.....on roller skates.

I guess my point is, is that if you can keep
it to that level and keep the weight off, etc., how much real damage, if any, is
1 a day actually doing?


Well, you guess wrong. That isn't a point, it's a question.

Of course, that said, I can't imagine that even 1 a day
is _good_ for anyone,


You don't have much of an imagination. Ethanol is toxic. Think about
it.

Idiot.

so if you decide to kick it completely, good luck with
doing so.


Luck has nothing to do with it.

Good job, Wayne.

g.

Jonathan Cook May 11th, 2010 06:21 PM

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On May 8, 5:21*pm, Wayne Knight wrote:

started a slow process to fitness. This morning I weighed in at 230
lbs and ran (slowly jogged is more like it) the Indianapolis Half
Marathon. I didn't set any records and won't be invited to Boston


Good show Wayne. Hope you had a great trip to NC. Last night I had my
first jog in about five months. Felt good to sweat again, but I didn't
exactly attack the long slow hill from my house, more like just
survived it. One of these years I'll figure out how to keep up the
regimen all the way through a semester...

Jon.

DaveS May 12th, 2010 07:55 AM

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On May 11, 10:21*am, Jonathan Cook wrote:
On May 8, 5:21*pm, Wayne Knight wrote:

started a slow process to fitness. This morning I weighed in at 230
lbs and ran (slowly jogged is more like it) the Indianapolis Half
Marathon. I didn't set any records and won't be invited to Boston


Good show Wayne. Hope you had a great trip to NC. Last night I had my
first jog in about five months. Felt good to sweat again, but I didn't
exactly attack the long slow hill from my house, more like just
survived it. One of these years I'll figure out how to keep up the
regimen all the way through a semester...

Jon.


Walk gentelman walk. Walk lots. That jogging stuff after a certain age
just tears the **** out of your knees and hips and feet. Accept age,
don't pretend some Doc will make you a kid again. And if you are
jogging on pavement you are really asking for it . . . soon.

Dave

georgecleveland May 12th, 2010 03:02 PM

OT- Boasting just a bit about getting the act together
 
On Sat, 8 May 2010 16:21:20 -0700 (PDT), Wayne Knight
wrote:

This isn't going to rival Steve's fine report but I needed to boast a
wee bit to somebody and ROFF it is.

Beginning in 1992 when I started traveling as a consultant I began
chain smoking and eating like someone escaping a famine and entering a
McDonalds for the first time. At the same time I quit even the basic
activities I was doing like playing softball and taking long strolls/
hikes. By the time I turned 50 in 2008 I was over the 320 lb mark and
last year when I fished with Mr. Fortenberry in Michigan I was
carrying around 338 lbs. Even with a couple of hospital admissions for
a misfiring heart and the onset of Diabetes I would often jest my last
words were going to be "one more donut/cigarette isn't going to kill
me"

The last few years I had been mostly confined to roadside fishing.
Last May I couldn't make one of the easier hikes a mile or so in to a
brookie stream in the Smokys without stopping to catch my breath every
100 yards or so. In June, while fishing with Mr. Fortenberry on the
Jordan River, I proceeded to do Mr. Reid proud in quicksand laced
waters with a depth of 2'. On the way home from my cut short trip to
Michigan, I knew something had to change.

Last July 7th I consulted a physician, dietician, and trainer and
started a slow process to fitness. This morning I weighed in at 230
lbs and ran (slowly jogged is more like it) the Indianapolis Half
Marathon. I didn't set any records and won't be invited to Boston
Marathon anytime soon but I finished the darn thing. While I can't
confess to being smoke free, a pack now lasts me weeks and not hours.
In the morning I am heading out for Fontana Lake and catching the
ferry to the Hazel Creek trail for a three day backpacking excursion
to its headwaters. Provided I don't become bear poop, I will post some
kind of a report when I return next weekend. Nothing as nice as
Steve's but a report that won't involve much roadside fishing except
for a planned head hunting trip for bigger browns in the Little River
on the way home from NC.

Thanks for reading


Thumbs up!!

Wayne Harrison May 14th, 2010 03:27 PM

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"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
...
This isn't going to rival Steve's fine report but I needed to boast a
wee bit to somebody and ROFF it is.


great news, knight! i just got back from a four day to the smokies, staying
at the cabins at almond, near nantahala. a little chilly, but great fun.
caught a few nice browns in nanty. wading has become tough for me.
degenerating discs making exercise problematic.

what methodology did you use in your efforts to reduce?

yfitons
wayno




Wayne Knight May 18th, 2010 05:23 PM

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On May 8, 8:29*pm, "Fred" wrote:

Unless you are another of Forty's fictional and evil minions


I didn't know Forty had fictional and evil minions. I have had the
pleasure to share stream, meal, stories, and drink with Forty, he is a
fine fishing partner and a good friend. I can say the same for several
others here, Jeff, Frank Jr, Riverman, the Pirate, Wolfgang and
others.

I may not agree with everything they write or do, but they remain
friends nonetheless.

I would like to say
Congratulations man!
Keep it up


Thank you

Wayne Knight May 18th, 2010 05:24 PM

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On May 8, 8:57*pm, rw wrote:

Looking forward to the TR.


Thanks, weather and conditions weren't all that cooperative but as
soon as I get a chance to resize the pictures I'll post a synopsis.

Wayne Knight May 18th, 2010 05:26 PM

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On May 8, 11:35*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Way to go old friend. That's a hell of a lot of progress in less
than a year. If you had told me last year that you were going to
run a half marathon within a year I wouldn't have believed it.


thank you, if you're free that weekend I am going to be back at the
Jordan 6/25 or 6/26. Hope things are progressing well for you.


Wayne Knight May 18th, 2010 05:28 PM

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On May 9, 3:53*pm, Conan The Librarian wrote:

* *Way to go, Wayne. *I'm sorry I can't meet up with you in the
Smokies this year to maybe take a hike back to that little brookie
stream where I saw you last. *:-)


That little brookie stream was a bit stingy this time but I managed to
fool a couple of the inhabitants. Sorry you couldn't make it this
year.


Wayne Knight May 18th, 2010 05:31 PM

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On May 10, 12:39*pm, wrote:

I'd be curious to find out if such is even still (objectively, from a
medical POV) actually "smoking." *I guess my point is, is that if you can keep
it to that level and keep the weight off, etc., how much real damage, if any, is
1 a day actually doing?


The damage has probably been done by over 30 years of heavy smoking.
We'll just see how the body reacts, its a pretty amazing thing (the
workings, not my shape still :( ). I think averaging one a day is
kind of like an alcoholic, you're never cured but constantly
recovering, and clinically it's still smoking.

Wayne Knight May 18th, 2010 05:37 PM

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On May 14, 10:27*am, "Wayne Harrison" wrote:

great news, knight! *i just got back from a four day to the smokies, staying
at the cabins at almond, near nantahala. *a little chilly, but great fun.


Wayne Knight May 18th, 2010 05:39 PM

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On May 8, 11:15*pm, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:

Congrats my friend.- Hide quoted text -


Thank you and everyone else for your good thoughts. Apologies for not
responding to everyone personally.

So Frank, we are we going to chase the finny Ozark inhabitants again?

Frank Reid © 2010 May 18th, 2010 06:11 PM

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On May 18, 11:39*am, Wayne Knight wrote:
On May 8, 11:15*pm, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:

Congrats my friend.- Hide quoted text -


Thank you and everyone else for your good thoughts. Apologies for not
responding to everyone personally.

So Frank, we are we going to chase the finny Ozark inhabitants again?


As soon as my bride gets a new job to pay for it. Her contract is up
for recompete and she's not on the new bid. This woman MUST earn
enough to send me on my fishing trips.
Frank Reid
(who's thinking of getting her a job at Cabela's so I can get the
employee discount)

Frank Reid © 2010 May 18th, 2010 06:12 PM

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On May 18, 11:39*am, Wayne Knight wrote:
On May 8, 11:15*pm, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:

Congrats my friend.- Hide quoted text -


Thank you and everyone else for your good thoughts. Apologies for not
responding to everyone personally.

So Frank, we are we going to chase the finny Ozark inhabitants again?


I will be in Mountain Home, AR the first weekend in October.
Frank Reid

[email protected] May 18th, 2010 06:36 PM

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On Tue, 18 May 2010 09:23:09 -0700 (PDT), Wayne Knight
wrote:

On May 8, 8:29*pm, "Fred" wrote:

Unless you are another of Forty's fictional and evil minions


I didn't know Forty had fictional and evil minions.


Um, well, assuming he HAD minions, I'm pretty sure they would be evil...

I have had the
pleasure to share stream, meal, stories, and drink with Forty


As have I, and I'd do so again...

, he is a
fine fishing partner and a good friend. I can say the same for several
others here, Jeff, Frank Jr, Riverman, the Pirate, Wolfgang and
others.


Well, not the same list (nothing intended by that other than the fact that our
lists do not mirror each other), but the same sentiment...

I may not agree with everything they write or do, but they remain
friends nonetheless.


Ditto.

I would like to say
Congratulations man!
Keep it up


Thank you


TC,
R

[email protected] May 18th, 2010 06:44 PM

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On Tue, 18 May 2010 09:31:15 -0700 (PDT), Wayne Knight
wrote:

On May 10, 12:39*pm, wrote:

I'd be curious to find out if such is even still (objectively, from a
medical POV) actually "smoking." *I guess my point is, is that if you can keep
it to that level and keep the weight off, etc., how much real damage, if any, is
1 a day actually doing?


The damage has probably been done by over 30 years of heavy smoking.
We'll just see how the body reacts, its a pretty amazing thing (the
workings, not my shape still :( ). I think averaging one a day is
kind of like an alcoholic, you're never cured but constantly
recovering, and clinically it's still smoking.


It's funny - I've gone through periods of years without wanting a cigarette as
well as periods of smoking one or two a day and while I've never been an
alcoholic, so I can't compare the two, I'd say, at least for me, that smoking
isn't something to be "cured" or "not cured." One grandmother, to use your
term, clinically smoked (more than one but less than 10 a week) and from all
indications, suffered nothing from it. And I have asked a coupla-few doctors
and "research doctors" about smoking a cigarette or two a day, and all told me
basically the same thing - no real health effect as far they knew and believed.
Obviously, none recommended it, but all seemed to agree that it was of little or
no health consequence, all things in the modern world considered. Is such a
position warranted? I have no idea, hence my asking you what you might know.

IAC, glad to hear of your progress and success, even if you have become an
imaginary evil minion...

TC,
R

Giles May 19th, 2010 03:08 AM

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On May 18, 11:37*am, Wayne Knight wrote:
On May 14, 10:27*am, "Wayne Harrison" wrote:



what methodology did you use in your efforts to reduce?


I have been keeping my calories below 2000 a day and excercising with
a trainer as well as on my own. basically instead of burgers, pizza,
and biscuits my meals have become chicken, fish, veggies


All of that makes eminently good sense, although low fat (and even no
fat) pizza is easy enough to make and can be very tasty and
satisfying.

and very little bread products.


I still don't, and I guess I never will, understand why bread gets
such a bad rap from dieters, nutritionists, etc. Done right, bread is
among the most delicious, nutritious, and infinitely variable foods in
the world.

Mind you, I'm not arguing with your success or anyone else's.....if
squirrel nuts and two day old coffee do the job then god bless
everyone for whom it succeeds. But it ain't the only path to
salvation, I think.

giles
who, truth be told, would much prefer damnation to salvation if the
latter required giving up on cereal crops, the very foundation of
human evolution and civilization.

hm.......food for thought, on second thought.



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