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Rapid River
As many of you know, the Rapid River in Maine is my homewater. I have
been fishing it for more than 20 years and know the short river better than most. The 2000 and 2001 ROFF clave was held on the Rapid, and everyone agreed it is a beautiful river, full of big salmon and brook trout, but difficult to fish. Last week was the best week I have ever had on this beautiful river. I arrived late Sunday afternoon, bringing torrential rains with me. I settled right in preparing my fishing gear. I was in no hurry; I would be in camp for four weeks. Plenty of time to fish. While rearranging my fly boxes I remembered my goal this year - catch big fish on tiny flies. Monday morning was wet and cold. I awoke about 4 a.m. and shivered my way to the woodburning stove and put a match to the already prepared paper, kindling, and wood. Quickly back to bed, I slept until 6 and awoke to a more civilized cabin, one warm enough so that this old man could better function. After breakfast I hurried down to the dam. Except for a guide and his pretty good fisherman client, I had the place to myself. The flow was 1400 cfs, not really high, but not ideal either. I took up station on the Anvil Rock and proceeded to land small salmon and brook trout on a size 20 caddis nymph. None were too small, nor were they big; just sort of average, I guess. Fun, but not very exciting. However, my move to the first runway off the dam improved the excitation factor. On the second cast into the bubbles, I hooked a 17 inch female brook trout. And, she was ****ed. Fought like hell while staying in a very small area, not like her brethren counterparts who run all over the place slowly exhausting themselves. Because (I am assuming) the hook is so small (#20), as soon as I netted and released the pressure on the hook, it came out of her mouth. This would happen on every big fish I landed in the next five days. I had found *the* spot on the river, because in the next hour, with the guide and his sport watching, I landed five more brookies all greater than 16 inches. They absolutely loved my size 20 caddis nymph (the fish, not so much the guide and his sport). I switched to a size 22 of the same pattern (had a helluva job threading it with my 5x tippet), and the love affair with this pattern continued. I hooked and played a 20 inch male brook trout into the net where he took a mighty leap off the rubber webbing and found his freedom in the cold water. The hook was bent so its replacement would be a size 20 of the same pattern. At my age it pays to give your eyes as much help as you can. A short time later I switched to Harry Mason's Proven Killer Caddis, size 16, and cast to rising fish about 40 feet in front of me. This fly is unbelievably successful. The salmon took it within a second or two of it landing on the water. The fish were all salmon, in the 12 - 14 inch range, but fun catching on dries. I bet I went through half a bottle of Frog's Fanny in the next two hours. Back to camp and lunch at noon time. I was very tired but happy. After a terrific lunch that would put my dietician in cardiac arrest, I returned to my cabin and fell asleep listening to the rain on the roof and the crackling fire in the stove. Life is good. More to follow...... Dave |
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On Jun 6, 1:23*pm, David LaCourse wrote:
As many of you know, the Rapid River in Maine is my homewater. *I have been fishing it for more than 20 years and know the short river better than most. *The 2000 and 2001 ROFF clave was held on the Rapid, and everyone agreed it is a beautiful river, full of big salmon and brook trout, but difficult to fish. *Last week was the best week I have ever had on this beautiful river. I arrived late Sunday afternoon, bringing torrential rains with me. *I settled right in preparing my fishing gear. *I was in no hurry; I would be in camp for four weeks. *Plenty of time to fish. *While rearranging my fly boxes I remembered my goal this year - catch big fish on tiny flies. Monday morning was wet and cold. *I awoke about 4 a.m. and shivered my way to the woodburning stove and put a match to the already prepared paper, kindling, and wood. *Quickly back to bed, I slept until 6 and awoke to a more civilized cabin, one warm enough so that this old man could better function. *After breakfast I hurried down to the dam. * Except for a guide and his pretty good fisherman client, I had the place to myself. *The flow was 1400 cfs, not really high, but not ideal either. *I took up station on the Anvil Rock and proceeded to land small salmon and brook trout on a size 20 caddis nymph. *None were too small, nor were they big; just sort of average, I guess. *Fun, but not very exciting. However, my move to the first runway off the dam improved the excitation factor. *On the second cast into the bubbles, I hooked a 17 inch female brook trout. *And, she was ****ed. *Fought like hell while staying in a very small area, not like her brethren counterparts who run all over the place slowly exhausting themselves. *Because (I am assuming) the hook is so small (#20), as soon as I netted and released the pressure on the hook, it came out of her mouth. This would happen on every big fish I landed in the next five days. I had found *the* spot on the river, because in the next hour, with the guide and his sport watching, I landed five more brookies all greater than 16 inches. *They absolutely loved my size 20 caddis nymph (the fish, not so much the guide and his sport). *I switched to a size 22 of the same pattern (had a helluva job threading it with my 5x tippet), and the love affair with this pattern continued. *I hooked and played a 20 inch male brook trout into the net where he took a mighty leap off the rubber webbing and found his freedom in the cold water. *The hook was bent so its replacement would be a size 20 of the same pattern. *At my age it pays to give your eyes as much help as you can. A short time later I switched to Harry Mason's Proven Killer Caddis, size 16, and cast to rising fish about 40 feet in front of me. *This fly is unbelievably successful. *The salmon took it within a second or two of it landing on the water. *The fish were all salmon, in the 12 - 14 inch range, but fun catching on dries. *I bet I went through half a bottle of Frog's Fanny in the next two hours. Back to camp and lunch at noon time. *I was very tired but happy. * After a terrific lunch that would put my dietician in cardiac arrest, I returned to my cabin and fell asleep listening to the rain on the roof and the crackling fire in the stove. *Life is good. More to follow...... Dave Most excellent trip report. Sounds like a wonderful place. giles |
Rapid River
On Jun 6, 1:23*pm, David LaCourse wrote:
As many of you know, the Rapid River in Maine is my homewater. *I have been fishing it for more than 20 years and know the short river better than most. *The 2000 and 2001 ROFF clave was held on the Rapid, and everyone agreed it is a beautiful river, full of big salmon and brook trout, but difficult to fish. *Last week was the best week I have ever had on this beautiful river. I arrived late Sunday afternoon, bringing torrential rains with me. *I settled right in preparing my fishing gear. *I was in no hurry; I would be in camp for four weeks. *Plenty of time to fish. *While rearranging my fly boxes I remembered my goal this year - catch big fish on tiny flies. Monday morning was wet and cold. *I awoke about 4 a.m. and shivered my way to the woodburning stove and put a match to the already prepared paper, kindling, and wood. *Quickly back to bed, I slept until 6 and awoke to a more civilized cabin, one warm enough so that this old man could better function. *After breakfast I hurried down to the dam. * Except for a guide and his pretty good fisherman client, I had the place to myself. *The flow was 1400 cfs, not really high, but not ideal either. *I took up station on the Anvil Rock and proceeded to land small salmon and brook trout on a size 20 caddis nymph. *None were too small, nor were they big; just sort of average, I guess. *Fun, but not very exciting. However, my move to the first runway off the dam improved the excitation factor. *On the second cast into the bubbles, I hooked a 17 inch female brook trout. *And, she was ****ed. *Fought like hell while staying in a very small area, not like her brethren counterparts who run all over the place slowly exhausting themselves. *Because (I am assuming) the hook is so small (#20), as soon as I netted and released the pressure on the hook, it came out of her mouth. This would happen on every big fish I landed in the next five days. I had found *the* spot on the river, because in the next hour, with the guide and his sport watching, I landed five more brookies all greater than 16 inches. *They absolutely loved my size 20 caddis nymph (the fish, not so much the guide and his sport). *I switched to a size 22 of the same pattern (had a helluva job threading it with my 5x tippet), and the love affair with this pattern continued. *I hooked and played a 20 inch male brook trout into the net where he took a mighty leap off the rubber webbing and found his freedom in the cold water. *The hook was bent so its replacement would be a size 20 of the same pattern. *At my age it pays to give your eyes as much help as you can. A short time later I switched to Harry Mason's Proven Killer Caddis, size 16, and cast to rising fish about 40 feet in front of me. *This fly is unbelievably successful. *The salmon took it within a second or two of it landing on the water. *The fish were all salmon, in the 12 - 14 inch range, but fun catching on dries. *I bet I went through half a bottle of Frog's Fanny in the next two hours. Back to camp and lunch at noon time. *I was very tired but happy. * After a terrific lunch that would put my dietician in cardiac arrest, I returned to my cabin and fell asleep listening to the rain on the roof and the crackling fire in the stove. *Life is good. More to follow...... Dave Having been there, I can visualize the spots and the excitement when a huge head come out of the water with a little fly in its maw. Outstanding TR. Thanks Dave. Frank Reid |
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On Jun 7, 2:23*am, David LaCourse wrote:
As many of you know, the Rapid River in Maine is my homewater. *I have been fishing it for more than 20 years and know the short river better than most. *The 2000 and 2001 ROFF clave was held on the Rapid, and everyone agreed it is a beautiful river, full of big salmon and brook trout, but difficult to fish. *Last week was the best week I have ever had on this beautiful river. I arrived late Sunday afternoon, bringing torrential rains with me. *I settled right in preparing my fishing gear. *I was in no hurry; I would be in camp for four weeks. *Plenty of time to fish. *While rearranging my fly boxes I remembered my goal this year - catch big fish on tiny flies. Monday morning was wet and cold. *I awoke about 4 a.m. and shivered my way to the woodburning stove and put a match to the already prepared paper, kindling, and wood. *Quickly back to bed, I slept until 6 and awoke to a more civilized cabin, one warm enough so that this old man could better function. *After breakfast I hurried down to the dam. * Except for a guide and his pretty good fisherman client, I had the place to myself. *The flow was 1400 cfs, not really high, but not ideal either. *I took up station on the Anvil Rock and proceeded to land small salmon and brook trout on a size 20 caddis nymph. *None were too small, nor were they big; just sort of average, I guess. *Fun, but not very exciting. However, my move to the first runway off the dam improved the excitation factor. *On the second cast into the bubbles, I hooked a 17 inch female brook trout. *And, she was ****ed. *Fought like hell while staying in a very small area, not like her brethren counterparts who run all over the place slowly exhausting themselves. *Because (I am assuming) the hook is so small (#20), as soon as I netted and released the pressure on the hook, it came out of her mouth. This would happen on every big fish I landed in the next five days. I had found *the* spot on the river, because in the next hour, with the guide and his sport watching, I landed five more brookies all greater than 16 inches. *They absolutely loved my size 20 caddis nymph (the fish, not so much the guide and his sport). *I switched to a size 22 of the same pattern (had a helluva job threading it with my 5x tippet), and the love affair with this pattern continued. *I hooked and played a 20 inch male brook trout into the net where he took a mighty leap off the rubber webbing and found his freedom in the cold water. *The hook was bent so its replacement would be a size 20 of the same pattern. *At my age it pays to give your eyes as much help as you can. A short time later I switched to Harry Mason's Proven Killer Caddis, size 16, and cast to rising fish about 40 feet in front of me. *This fly is unbelievably successful. *The salmon took it within a second or two of it landing on the water. *The fish were all salmon, in the 12 - 14 inch range, but fun catching on dries. *I bet I went through half a bottle of Frog's Fanny in the next two hours. Back to camp and lunch at noon time. *I was very tired but happy. * After a terrific lunch that would put my dietician in cardiac arrest, I returned to my cabin and fell asleep listening to the rain on the roof and the crackling fire in the stove. *Life is good. More to follow...... Dave I am so ready to totally change my summer plans and camp out at the dam. Great trip report! --riverman |
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On 6-Jun-2010, David LaCourse wrote: As many of you know, the Rapid River in Maine is my homewater. I have been fishing it for more than 20 years and know the short river better than most. The 2000 and 2001 ROFF clave was held on the Rapid, and everyone agreed it is a beautiful river, full of big salmon and brook trout, but difficult to fish. Last week was the best week I have ever had on this beautiful river. I arrived late Sunday afternoon, bringing torrential rains with me. I settled right in preparing my fishing gear. I was in no hurry; I would be in camp for four weeks. Plenty of time to fish. While rearranging my fly boxes I remembered my goal this year - catch big fish on tiny flies. Monday morning was wet and cold. I awoke about 4 a.m. and shivered my way to the woodburning stove and put a match to the already prepared paper, kindling, and wood. Quickly back to bed, I slept until 6 and awoke to a more civilized cabin, one warm enough so that this old man could better function. After breakfast I hurried down to the dam. Except for a guide and his pretty good fisherman client, I had the place to myself. The flow was 1400 cfs, not really high, but not ideal either. I took up station on the Anvil Rock and proceeded to land small salmon and brook trout on a size 20 caddis nymph. None were too small, nor were they big; just sort of average, I guess. Fun, but not very exciting. However, my move to the first runway off the dam improved the excitation factor. On the second cast into the bubbles, I hooked a 17 inch female brook trout. And, she was ****ed. Fought like hell while staying in a very small area, not like her brethren counterparts who run all over the place slowly exhausting themselves. Because (I am assuming) the hook is so small (#20), as soon as I netted and released the pressure on the hook, it came out of her mouth. This would happen on every big fish I landed in the next five days. I had found *the* spot on the river, because in the next hour, with the guide and his sport watching, I landed five more brookies all greater than 16 inches. They absolutely loved my size 20 caddis nymph (the fish, not so much the guide and his sport). I switched to a size 22 of the same pattern (had a helluva job threading it with my 5x tippet), and the love affair with this pattern continued. I hooked and played a 20 inch male brook trout into the net where he took a mighty leap off the rubber webbing and found his freedom in the cold water. The hook was bent so its replacement would be a size 20 of the same pattern. At my age it pays to give your eyes as much help as you can. A short time later I switched to Harry Mason's Proven Killer Caddis, size 16, and cast to rising fish about 40 feet in front of me. This fly is unbelievably successful. The salmon took it within a second or two of it landing on the water. The fish were all salmon, in the 12 - 14 inch range, but fun catching on dries. I bet I went through half a bottle of Frog's Fanny in the next two hours. Back to camp and lunch at noon time. I was very tired but happy. After a terrific lunch that would put my dietician in cardiac arrest, I returned to my cabin and fell asleep listening to the rain on the roof and the crackling fire in the stove. Life is good. More to follow...... Dave Nice TR I know the place having been in the area quite a few times Thanks for sharing and I look forward to another TR Fred |
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"David LaCourse" wrote Back to camp and lunch at noon time. I was very tired but happy. After a terrific lunch that would put my dietician in cardiac arrest, I returned to my cabin and fell asleep listening to the rain on the roof and the crackling fire in the stove. Life is good. More to follow...... excellent tr, louie. yfitons wayno Dave |
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On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:23:42 -0400, David LaCourse wrote:
As many of you know, the Rapid River in Maine is my homewater. I have been fishing it for more than 20 years and know the short river better than most. The 2000 and 2001 ROFF clave was held on the Rapid, and everyone agreed it is a beautiful river, full of big salmon and brook trout, but difficult to fish. Last week was the best week I have ever had on this beautiful river. I arrived late Sunday afternoon, bringing torrential rains with me. I settled right in preparing my fishing gear. I was in no hurry; I would be in camp for four weeks. Plenty of time to fish. While rearranging my fly boxes I remembered my goal this year - catch big fish on tiny flies. Monday morning was wet and cold. I awoke about 4 a.m. and shivered my way to the woodburning stove and put a match to the already prepared paper, kindling, and wood. Quickly back to bed, I slept until 6 and awoke to a more civilized cabin, one warm enough so that this old man could better function. After breakfast I hurried down to the dam. Except for a guide and his pretty good fisherman client, I had the place to myself. The flow was 1400 cfs, not really high, but not ideal either. I took up station on the Anvil Rock and proceeded to land small salmon and brook trout on a size 20 caddis nymph. None were too small, nor were they big; just sort of average, I guess. Fun, but not very exciting. However, my move to the first runway off the dam improved the excitation factor. On the second cast into the bubbles, I hooked a 17 inch female brook trout. And, she was ****ed. Fought like hell while staying in a very small area, not like her brethren counterparts who run all over the place slowly exhausting themselves. Because (I am assuming) the hook is so small (#20), as soon as I netted and released the pressure on the hook, it came out of her mouth. This would happen on every big fish I landed in the next five days. I had found *the* spot on the river, because in the next hour, with the guide and his sport watching, I landed five more brookies all greater than 16 inches. They absolutely loved my size 20 caddis nymph (the fish, not so much the guide and his sport). I switched to a size 22 of the same pattern (had a helluva job threading it with my 5x tippet), and the love affair with this pattern continued. I hooked and played a 20 inch male brook trout into the net where he took a mighty leap off the rubber webbing and found his freedom in the cold water. The hook was bent so its replacement would be a size 20 of the same pattern. At my age it pays to give your eyes as much help as you can. A short time later I switched to Harry Mason's Proven Killer Caddis, size 16, and cast to rising fish about 40 feet in front of me. This fly is unbelievably successful. The salmon took it within a second or two of it landing on the water. The fish were all salmon, in the 12 - 14 inch range, but fun catching on dries. I bet I went through half a bottle of Frog's Fanny in the next two hours. Back to camp and lunch at noon time. I was very tired but happy. After a terrific lunch that would put my dietician in cardiac arrest, I returned to my cabin and fell asleep listening to the rain on the roof and the crackling fire in the stove. Life is good. More to follow...... Dave Wow, so much fun...and at less than a dollar a day...seriously, though, nice report on what sounds like a nice trip... TC, R |
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On Jun 8, 4:28*am, David LaCourse wrote:
On 2010-06-07 12:03:13 -0400, said: Wow, so much fun...and at less than a dollar a day...seriously, though, nice report on what sounds like a nice trip... Thank you, Richard. *And, the dollar a day waders are still going strong and soon will have more than 550 days on them. *A bargain, I tell ya. Not so much a bargain here, however. *A single is 175 bucks a day. * Granted the cabins are cozy and clean with hot/cold water, electricity, and wood burning stoves, while the food is excellent and so is the fishing. *However, some would have a little trouble with 175/day. *I can remember when it was $75. Dave (just arrived back in camp for week 2) Thats why they make tents and a south side of the river. :-) --riverman |
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"David LaCourse" wrote in message news:2010060716283116807-dplacourse@aolcom... excellent report, David!! What always strikes me, though, is your use and success relying on such small stuff. Is the Rapid just rife with smaller caddis species? If so, the shorter warm season you all have would give the river a plethora of caddis larvae about this time of year. Still, one envisions the flies from the 'classic' days up that way. My mind goes back to the stuff in that Carrie Stevens book you kindly gave me. Not small stuff, even the flies designed for river angling. Just another example of the multitudes of variables in this thing we generalize by calling 'trout fishing'........ Tom |
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On Jun 6, 11:23*am, David LaCourse wrote:
As many of you know, the Rapid River in Maine is my homewater. *I have been fishing it for more than 20 years and know the short river better than most. *The 2000 and 2001 ROFF clave was held on the Rapid, and everyone agreed it is a beautiful river, full of big salmon and brook trout, but difficult to fish. *Last week was the best week I have ever had on this beautiful river. I arrived late Sunday afternoon, bringing torrential rains with me. *I settled right in preparing my fishing gear. *I was in no hurry; I would be in camp for four weeks. *Plenty of time to fish. *While rearranging my fly boxes I remembered my goal this year - catch big fish on tiny flies. Monday morning was wet and cold. *I awoke about 4 a.m. and shivered my way to the woodburning stove and put a match to the already prepared paper, kindling, and wood. *Quickly back to bed, I slept until 6 and awoke to a more civilized cabin, one warm enough so that this old man could better function. *After breakfast I hurried down to the dam. * Except for a guide and his pretty good fisherman client, I had the place to myself. *The flow was 1400 cfs, not really high, but not ideal either. *I took up station on the Anvil Rock and proceeded to land small salmon and brook trout on a size 20 caddis nymph. *None were too small, nor were they big; just sort of average, I guess. *Fun, but not very exciting. However, my move to the first runway off the dam improved the excitation factor. *On the second cast into the bubbles, I hooked a 17 inch female brook trout. *And, she was ****ed. *Fought like hell while staying in a very small area, not like her brethren counterparts who run all over the place slowly exhausting themselves. *Because (I am assuming) the hook is so small (#20), as soon as I netted and released the pressure on the hook, it came out of her mouth. This would happen on every big fish I landed in the next five days. I had found *the* spot on the river, because in the next hour, with the guide and his sport watching, I landed five more brookies all greater than 16 inches. *They absolutely loved my size 20 caddis nymph (the fish, not so much the guide and his sport). *I switched to a size 22 of the same pattern (had a helluva job threading it with my 5x tippet), and the love affair with this pattern continued. *I hooked and played a 20 inch male brook trout into the net where he took a mighty leap off the rubber webbing and found his freedom in the cold water. *The hook was bent so its replacement would be a size 20 of the same pattern. *At my age it pays to give your eyes as much help as you can. A short time later I switched to Harry Mason's Proven Killer Caddis, size 16, and cast to rising fish about 40 feet in front of me. *This fly is unbelievably successful. *The salmon took it within a second or two of it landing on the water. *The fish were all salmon, in the 12 - 14 inch range, but fun catching on dries. *I bet I went through half a bottle of Frog's Fanny in the next two hours. Back to camp and lunch at noon time. *I was very tired but happy. * After a terrific lunch that would put my dietician in cardiac arrest, I returned to my cabin and fell asleep listening to the rain on the roof and the crackling fire in the stove. *Life is good. More to follow...... Dave Great report David. You said the river was running at about 1400 cfs. And given you've seen this river more than anyone else here, . . . What would you guess would be the cfs at flood stage for the rapid? And the typical annual low? Many of our rivers out here have very wide variations ( like a recent small river cycle of many days at about a low 200-250 cfs, then in 36 hours spiking to 1000+ cfs. Dave |
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David LaCourse wrote:
As many of you know, the Rapid River in Maine is my homewater.... etc. Nicely done, Dave. Brings back good memories. JR |
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On 6/8/2010 7:37 PM, Tom Littleton wrote:
"David wrote in message news:2010060716283116807-dplacourse@aolcom... excellent report, David!! What always strikes me, though, is your use and success relying on such small stuff. Is the Rapid just rife with smaller caddis species? If so, the shorter warm season you all have would give the river a plethora of caddis larvae about this time of year. Still, one envisions the flies from the 'classic' days up that way. My mind goes back to the stuff in that Carrie Stevens book you kindly gave me. Not small stuff, even the flies designed for river angling. Just another example of the multitudes of variables in this thing we generalize by calling 'trout fishing'........ Tom ....i watched canadian peter fling streamers that looked like the fender from a buick and catch some nice brook trout in the stretch of the rapid below pond in the river and the old historic dam building (no longer there). my best day ever on the rapid was just after 9/11 using a 14 elk hair caddis on the other side of the river, walking and fishing upstream in carolina fashion...well, there was also that one day daytripper and peter tied up a bunch of size 22 "nits", shared a few with me, and we caught salmon after salmon in one of those slower side runs on the opposite side of the dam...amazing. very selective fish. my first time ever fishing small flies. toss in an 18 parachute adams, nada...then a 24 nit, wham! beautiful and interesting place. you should go there some time Tom...louie is a great host and a willing guide on his waters. and lakewood is a comfortable "rustic" place with good food. jeff |
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On 2010-06-08 19:37:04 -0400, "Tom Littleton" said:
"David LaCourse" wrote in message news:2010060716283116807-dplacourse@aolcom... excellent report, David!! What always strikes me, though, is your use and success relying on such small stuff. Is the Rapid just rife with smaller caddis species? If so, the shorter warm season you all have would give the river a plethora of caddis larvae about this time of year. Still, one envisions the flies from the 'classic' days up that way. My mind goes back to the stuff in that Carrie Stevens book you kindly gave me. Not small stuff, even the flies designed for river angling. Just another example of the multitudes of variables in this thing we generalize by calling 'trout fishing'........ Tom I discovered the small nymphs a couple of years ago mainly through experimentation. They work regardless the kind of hatch that is (or is not) coming off. They seem to thrive it. I have given away many 20s and 2s to non-believers, but if they fish them correctly, they will be tired of landing fish, some of them BIG. No strike indicator, fishe deep, with VERY subtle takes. You are correct about the caddis. There has been a hatch on for more than a week. Every couple of hours they appear and the fish are taking mostly the emergers. However, Harry Mason's Killer Caddis works wonderfully. I've turned on a couple of folks to this fly and they have order thru Harry and the flies were delivered in two days to the camp. Fished this afternoon. Many small salmon and brook trout, as well as some 15 inch brookies, and one nice 18 inch salmon that I had a helluva time landing because of my legs. I finally had to sit in the water to land him and it took awhile to resuscitate him. I normally land a fish as quickly as possible minimizing the stress as well as I can. But this old man is having a hard time of it.......... More trip reports to come. Dave |
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On 2010-06-09 12:47:17 -0400, jeff said:
and lakewood is a comfortable "rustic" place with good food. Ah, but it is. And, getting better. Donna is a very dedicated chef and her salads, soups, and sandwhiches are to die for. Dinner is the non-fishing hightlight of the day. AND, if wayno knew of the four very beautiful 18 - 22 yo Polish girls who are the waitresses, dish washer, and cabin girl, he would be up here tomorrow. To hell with the fishing! d;o) Dave |
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On 2010-06-09 04:23:40 -0400, DaveS said:
Great report David. You said the river was running at about 1400 cfs. And given you've seen this river more than anyone else here, . . . What would you guess would be the cfs at flood stage for the rapid? And the typical annual low? Many of our rivers out here have very wide variations ( like a recent small river cycle of many days at about a low 200-250 cfs, then in 36 hours spiking to 1000+ cfs. Dave The ideal flow would be 900 cfs. That would allow good fishing on just about anyplace on the river, and would allow folks to wade across First Current to The Island. More than 900 and you would need a boat for the island. They are running 400 now, although the lake is full. Can't understand why the flow is so low, but Florida Power and Light control it. Their logic escapes me at times. Flood stage would be anything greater than 2000 cfs. There are still places to fish, but you really have to know the river. At 4000s the river is in the woods and there is no island. At 6000 they practically scour the river. I've seen that a few times. FPL can be axxholes. In fact, most of the time (including now) they ARE axxholes. At 400 cfs the fishing is great, but if it stays at that flow, the river warms and the brook trout escape to the springs in Pond in the River. It's been at 400 for almost a week, and the very cold nights and cool days have been a blessing. The lake is full, so there is no reason why they shouldn't be running 800 - 1200 cfs. Dave |
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On Jun 9, 2:51*pm, David LaCourse wrote:
On 2010-06-09 04:23:40 -0400, DaveS said: Great report David. You said the river was running at about 1400 cfs. And given you've seen this river more than anyone else here, . . . What would you guess would be the cfs at flood stage for the rapid? And the typical annual low? Many of our rivers out here have very wide variations ( like a recent small river cycle of many days at about a low 200-250 cfs, then in 36 hours spiking to 1000+ cfs. Dave The ideal flow would be 900 cfs. *That would allow good fishing on just about anyplace on the river, and would allow folks to wade across First Current to The Island. *More than 900 and you would need a boat for the island. *They are running 400 now, although the lake is full. *Can't understand why the flow is so low, but Florida Power and Light control it. *Their logic escapes me at times. Flood stage would be anything greater than 2000 cfs. *There are still places to fish, but you really have to know the river. *At 4000s the river is in the woods and there is no island. *At 6000 they practically scour the river. *I've seen that a few times. *FPL can be axxholes. *In fact, most of the time (including now) they ARE axxholes. At 400 cfs the fishing is great, but if it stays at that flow, the river warms and the brook trout escape to the springs in Pond in the River. *It's been at 400 for almost a week, and the very cold nights and cool days have been a blessing. *The lake is full, so there is no reason why they shouldn't be running 800 - 1200 cfs. Dave Interesting. At 2000cfs my little river (Touches) is in flood, and it is also now running at about 400cfs after spiking 1000+ a few days ago. If the cite below works you can see the wide fluctuations characteristic of many small Western rivers. https://fortress.wa.gov/ecy/wrx/wrx/...al=true#block2 Dave |
Rapid River
On 9-Jun-2010, David LaCourse wrote: Great report David. You said the river was running at about 1400 cfs. And given you've seen this river more than anyone else here, . . . What would you guess would be the cfs at flood stage for the rapid? And the typical annual low? Many of our rivers out here have very wide variations ( like a recent small river cycle of many days at about a low 200-250 cfs, then in 36 hours spiking to 1000+ cfs. Dave The ideal flow would be 900 cfs. That would allow good fishing on just about anyplace on the river, and would allow folks to wade across First Current to The Island. More than 900 and you would need a boat for the island. They are running 400 now, although the lake is full. Can't understand why the flow is so low, but Florida Power and Light control it. Their logic escapes me at times. Flood stage would be anything greater than 2000 cfs. There are still places to fish, but you really have to know the river. At 4000s the river is in the woods and there is no island. At 6000 they practically scour the river. I've seen that a few times. FPL can be axxholes. In fact, most of the time (including now) they ARE axxholes. At 400 cfs the fishing is great, but if it stays at that flow, the river warms and the brook trout escape to the springs in Pond in the River. It's been at 400 for almost a week, and the very cold nights and cool days have been a blessing. The lake is full, so there is no reason why they shouldn't be running 800 - 1200 cfs. Dave Dave I am jealous I often confuse jealous and envious - the words and I had to carefully look ion Wikipedia which defined the answer of no malice involved. I had the best nights sleep for 3 -4 night on Richardson Lake on an island camppsite me and my bird dog Taylor We, my wife , and I spent a lot of wonderful times @ Chesuncook and Umbagog I remember the small speckled brookies of all colors and the few we ate were unbelievable w carrots onions and eggs in fpil Stay fishing, man The world is nuts! Pancho Villa |
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On 6/9/10 8:35 PM, Fred wrote:
Dave I am jealous I often confuse jealous and envious - the words and I had to carefully look ion Wikipedia which defined the answer of no malice involved. Envy is the desire for that which someone else has. Jealousy is the belief that someone else has what rightfully belongs to oneself, as for example a loved one. You're envious, not jealous. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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On 2010-06-09 22:35:46 -0400, "Fred" said:
Dave I am jealous I often confuse jealous and envious - the words and I had to carefully look ion Wikipedia which defined the answer of no malice involved. I had the best nights sleep for 3 -4 night on Richardson Lake on an island camppsite me and my bird dog Taylor We, my wife , and I spent a lot of wonderful times @ Chesuncook and Umbagog I remember the small speckled brookies of all colors and the few we ate were unbelievable w carrots onions and eggs in fpil Stay fishing, man The world is nuts! Pancho Villa There are several island sites for camping Fred, and they all offer some beautiful views and fishing. In addition there are two very close to the river and on the same side. Both the Black Cat site and Comfort Cove site are within a mile of the river. They are primitive sites (no running water) and the bugs can get bad, but the fishing is good. You ought to think about returning here some day. Dave |
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On 2010-06-09 08:50:15 -0400, JR said:
David LaCourse wrote: As many of you know, the Rapid River in Maine is my homewater.... etc. Nicely done, Dave. Brings back good memories. JR You should get out of that horrible city, John, and visit the Rapid for a week. Dave |
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On 9-Jun-2010, rw wrote: Dave I am jealous I often confuse jealous and envious - the words and I had to carefully look ion Wikipedia which defined the answer of no malice involved. Envy is the desire for that which someone else has. Jealousy is the belief that someone else has what rightfully belongs to oneself, as for example a loved one. You're envious, not jealous. Gracias senor Pancho |
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"David LaCourse" wrote AND, if wayno knew of the four very beautiful 18 - 22 yo Polish girls who are the waitresses, dish washer, and cabin girl, he would be up here tomorrow. To hell with the fishing! d;o) Dave Bede przybywaja na nastepny lot z Greensboro yfitons waynoski |
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On 10-Jun-2010, David LaCourse wrote: Dave I am jealous I often confuse jealous and envious - the words and I had to carefully look ion Wikipedia which defined the answer of no malice involved. I had the best nights sleep for 3 -4 night on Richardson Lake on an island camppsite me and my bird dog Taylor We, my wife , and I spent a lot of wonderful times @ Chesuncook and Umbagog I remember the small speckled brookies of all colors and the few we ate were unbelievable w carrots onions and eggs in fpil Stay fishing, man The world is nuts! Pancho Villa There are several island sites for camping Fred, and they all offer some beautiful views and fishing. In addition there are two very close to the river and on the same side. Both the Black Cat site and Comfort Cove site are within a mile of the river. They are primitive sites (no running water) and the bugs can get bad, but the fishing is good. You ought to think about returning here some day. Dave We have 2 weddings One Labor Day and the other one in Oct Both are in MA at Amherst and Sturbridge Ia sked my nephews to change the dates to get married on th same weekend but -They won't listen to me So I might just do that or Some striper fishing near Portland ME Powerful fish! Fred |
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On 2010-06-10 11:23:38 -0400, "Wayne Harrison" said:
Bede przybywaja na nastepny lot z Greensboro yfitons waynoski If I tell them that, will it get my face slapped? d;o) |
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On Jun 10, 3:56*pm, David LaCourse wrote:
On 2010-06-10 11:23:38 -0400, "Wayne Harrison" said: Bede przybywaja na nastepny lot z Greensboro yfitons waynoski If I tell them that, will it get my face slapped? d;o) Nah, you'll just have to put up with his snoring. Frank |
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David LaCourse wrote:
On 2010-06-09 08:50:15 -0400, JR said: Nicely done, Dave. Brings back good memories. You should get out of that horrible city, John, and visit the Rapid for a week. Truer words was never spoke. |
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On 06/06/2010 11:23 AM, David LaCourse wrote:
They absolutely loved my size 20 caddis nymph (the fish, not so much the guide and his sport). I switched to a size 22 of the same pattern (had a helluva job threading it with my 5x tippet), and the love affair with this pattern continued. Great report. Excellent writing. Thank you for sharing! If you are still reading this thread and if you are of a mind to, what went into your decision to imitate a tiny caddis, as opposed to a midge or a tiny stone fly/mayfly? -T |
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On 2010-06-21 01:48:48 -0400, Todd said:
On 06/06/2010 11:23 AM, David LaCourse wrote: They absolutely loved my size 20 caddis nymph (the fish, not so much the guide and his sport). I switched to a size 22 of the same pattern (had a helluva job threading it with my 5x tippet), and the love affair with this pattern continued. Great report. Excellent writing. Thank you for sharing! If you are still reading this thread and if you are of a mind to, what went into your decision to imitate a tiny caddis, as opposed to a midge or a tiny stone fly/mayfly? -T Experience. |
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On 06/21/2010 05:57 AM, David LaCourse wrote:
On 2010-06-21 01:48:48 -0400, Todd said: On 06/06/2010 11:23 AM, David LaCourse wrote: They absolutely loved my size 20 caddis nymph (the fish, not so much the guide and his sport). I switched to a size 22 of the same pattern (had a helluva job threading it with my 5x tippet), and the love affair with this pattern continued. Great report. Excellent writing. Thank you for sharing! If you are still reading this thread and if you are of a mind to, what went into your decision to imitate a tiny caddis, as opposed to a midge or a tiny stone fly/mayfly? -T Experience. The local fly shop is always trying to get me to try small midges, essentially tiny colored hooks. I have always had a funny feeling about them. Your experience gives foundation to that feeling. On the other hard, post Mortens on Rainbow I have accidentally killed (barbless hook hit an artery) have shows their stomachs to be full of tiny black sticks, which I presume are midges If it is not giving away a trade secret, which caddis nymph did you choose? Any chance of a photo? Many thanks, -T |
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