rod tip question
 

indian Joe asks--rainy cold morning here [46 degrees] so spend ing my time
thinking about buying a new rod. Want to fish N.C. small streams with a
4wt.-7 1/2 ft 3 piece for tossing medium size drys [ #12 foam yellow
humpy that i can see]

I will have about 7 ft of line out- 7 ft of leader and 2 ft of
tippett--making side arm cast across a pool to a spot just behind a log
hanging
in water.
Do i want a light fast tip or a stiff slow tip to load my rod for best
cast?

Any suggestions for rod costing under $239 will be helpful--my squaw just
spent that for a tennis racquet probably made in china for nine

dollars.

rod tip question
 

I'd suggest one of the Temple Forks Joe. Probably madein Korea for $5.00 but
it will do a pretty good jobn in that price range.

--
Clark Reid
http://www.dryflynz.com
Umpqua Designer Flytier


"Joe McIntosh" wrote in message
...
indian Joe asks--rainy cold morning here [46 degrees] so spend ing my
time
thinking about buying a new rod. Want to fish N.C. small streams with a
4wt.-7 1/2 ft 3 piece for tossing medium size drys [ #12 foam yellow
humpy that i can see]

I will have about 7 ft of line out- 7 ft of leader and 2 ft of
tippett--making side arm cast across a pool to a spot just behind a log
hanging
in water.
Do i want a light fast tip or a stiff slow tip to load my rod for best
cast?

Any suggestions for rod costing under $239 will be helpful--my squaw just
spent that for a tennis racquet probably made in china for nine

dollars.

rod tip question
 

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:49:40 GMT, "Joe McIntosh"
wrote:

indian Joe asks--rainy cold morning here [46 degrees] so spend ing my time
thinking about buying a new rod. Want to fish N.C. small streams with a
4wt.-7 1/2 ft 3 piece for tossing medium size drys [ #12 foam yellow
humpy that i can see]

I will have about 7 ft of line out- 7 ft of leader and 2 ft of
tippett--making side arm cast across a pool to a spot just behind a log
hanging in water.
Do i want a light fast tip or a stiff slow tip to load my rod for best
cast?

Any suggestions for rod costing under $239 will be helpful--my squaw just
spent that for a tennis racquet probably made in china for nine
dollars.

9 feet total?
Buy a length of hardwood dowel and just tie the leader to the tip ;-)

rod tip question
 

Yopu'll probably want a fast tip.


--
Bob Sheedy
www.mwflyfishing.net
Author: Lake Fly Fishing Strategies
Bob Sheedy's Top Fifty Stillwater Fly Patterns


"Joe McIntosh" wrote in message
...
indian Joe asks--rainy cold morning here [46 degrees] so spend ing my
time
thinking about buying a new rod. Want to fish N.C. small streams with a
4wt.-7 1/2 ft 3 piece for tossing medium size drys [ #12 foam yellow
humpy that i can see]

I will have about 7 ft of line out- 7 ft of leader and 2 ft of
tippett--making side arm cast across a pool to a spot just behind a log
hanging
in water.
Do i want a light fast tip or a stiff slow tip to load my rod for best
cast?

Any suggestions for rod costing under $239 will be helpful--my squaw just
spent that for a tennis racquet probably made in china for nine

dollars.

rod tip question
 

Hi Joe,

For real short dry fly casting (~10' - 20' ) you need a fly line that will
load up your rod well so it might be a double tarper floater one size
heavier than the rod is rated for.

With a short (7-8') softer action fly rod with one size up fly line with
short front taper (DT), short leader (7.5'-5x) and maybe no butt section or
tippet at first you can actually fly cast at pretty short distances.

These rods are lots of fun too but some don't seem to like short rods for
any reason.
--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com


"Joe McIntosh" wrote in message
...

indian Joe asks--rainy cold morning here [46 degrees] so spend ing my
time
thinking about buying a new rod. Want to fish N.C. small streams with a
4wt.-7 1/2 ft 3 piece for tossing medium size drys [ #12 foam yellow
humpy that i can see]

I will have about 7 ft of line out- 7 ft of leader and 2 ft of
tippett--making side arm cast across a pool to a spot just behind a log
hanging
in water.
Do i want a light fast tip or a stiff slow tip to load my rod for best
cast?

Any suggestions for rod costing under $239 will be helpful--my squaw just
spent that for a tennis racquet probably made in china for nine

dollars.

rod tip question
 

"Bill Kiene" wrote in message
om...
Hi Joe,

For real short dry fly casting (~10' - 20' ) you need a fly line that will
load up your rod well so it might be a double tarper floater one size
heavier than the rod is rated for.

With a short (7-8') softer action fly rod with one size up fly line with
short front taper (DT), short leader (7.5'-5x) and maybe no butt section
or
tippet at first you can actually fly cast at pretty short distances.

These rods are lots of fun too but some don't seem to like short rods for
any reason.

I've got a four foot fiberglass rod that works beautifully for short casts
in tight spots.

Wolfgang

rod tip question
 

"Wolfgang" wrote

I've got a four foot fiberglass rod that works beautifully for short casts
in tight spots.

Wolfgang

you *must* let me try that on dick's creek on your next foray into the
old north state.

yfitons
wayno (um, well, you can have my 6.5 orvis "one ounce" in temporary
trade...)

rod tip question
 

Going that short for a 4wt is crazy. Go for a 3wt or 2wt witha double
taper line. I have a Wintson 2wt with a Rio double taper. It's 7'6" and I
can throw two nymphs (size 12 or less bead headed) or one nymph and a strike
indicator. I also can place a size 8 stimulator quite accurately with
heavier tippet (4x).

Brands? Thats up to you but go lighter in weight you'll love it. It's good
that you understand in trout fishing, the rod should match the flies.

We use 4wts to catch 5+ pound rainbow in Duck Lake, Browning, Montana.
"Joe McIntosh" wrote in message
...
indian Joe asks--rainy cold morning here [46 degrees] so spend ing my
time
thinking about buying a new rod. Want to fish N.C. small streams with a
4wt.-7 1/2 ft 3 piece for tossing medium size drys [ #12 foam yellow
humpy that i can see]

I will have about 7 ft of line out- 7 ft of leader and 2 ft of
tippett--making side arm cast across a pool to a spot just behind a log
hanging
in water.
Do i want a light fast tip or a stiff slow tip to load my rod for best
cast?

Any suggestions for rod costing under $239 will be helpful--my squaw just
spent that for a tennis racquet probably made in china for nine

dollars.

rod tip question
 

"Wolfgang" wrote:
I've got a four foot fiberglass rod that works beautifully for short casts
in tight spots.

I think slower is better when you are casting just the leader. I have a
7' fiberglass rod that works well in these situations, but when I'm heading
to a really brushy area I take a bamboo rod because it just works best.

rod tip question
 

Charlie Wilson wrote:

I think slower is better when you are casting just the leader. I have a
7' fiberglass rod that works well in these situations, but when I'm heading
to a really brushy area I take a bamboo rod because it just works best.

Camouflage?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

rod tip question
 

"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
. com...

"Wolfgang" wrote

I've got a four foot fiberglass rod that works beautifully for short
casts
in tight spots.

Wolfgang

you *must* let me try that on dick's creek on your next foray into the
old north state.

yfitons
wayno (um, well, you can have my 6.5 orvis "one ounce" in temporary
trade...)

Sounds like a deal. I'm due for another dose of those lovely mountain
streams. Is there any point in making a trip in the summer, or should I
wait for October?

Wolfgang

rod tip question
 

"Charlie Wilson" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote:
I've got a four foot fiberglass rod that works beautifully for short
casts
in tight spots.

I think slower is better when you are casting just the leader. I have
a
7' fiberglass rod that works well in these situations, but when I'm
heading
to a really brushy area I take a bamboo rod because it just works best.

This one is pretty slow. It's just the tip section of a busted rod I found
in an abandoned house up in the UP about fifteen years ago. I cemented the
female ferrule into the grip and voila!

Wolfgang
um......but don't tell wayno. :)

rod tip question
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
. com...

"Wolfgang" wrote

I've got a four foot fiberglass rod that works beautifully for short
casts
in tight spots.

Wolfgang

you *must* let me try that on dick's creek on your next foray into
the
old north state.

yfitons
wayno (um, well, you can have my 6.5 orvis "one ounce" in temporary
trade...)

Sounds like a deal. I'm due for another dose of those lovely mountain
streams. Is there any point in making a trip in the summer, or should I
wait for October?

Wolfgang

well, the very best time would be mid april. but then, there's the
question of penn's in mid may...

if you would commit to a mid-april trip, we could probably form up a
mini-clave with wally, zimbo, jeffie, pj, opie, me... in the big water in
the smokies.

yfitons
wayno

rod tip question
 

indian joe and i are talking about an april trip.

Wayne Harrison wrote:

well, the very best time would be mid april. but then, there's the
question of penn's in mid may...

if you would commit to a mid-april trip, we could probably form up a
mini-clave with wally, zimbo, jeffie, pj, opie, me... in the big water in
the smokies.

yfitons
wayno

rod tip question
 

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 04:18:01 -0500, Jeff Miller
wrote:

indian joe and i are talking about an april trip.

I'm thinking about a trip up around Robinsville in April to try and
find the place Tom Brown and I fished a few years ago.
--
Charlie...

rod tip question
 

Charlie Choc wrote:
On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 04:18:01 -0500, Jeff Miller
wrote:


indian joe and i are talking about an april trip.


I'm thinking about a trip up around Robinsville in April to try and
find the place Tom Brown and I fished a few years ago.

If you're thinking about that place with the waterfall, big pools, long
sluice along a granite wall, etc., I think I still have the GPS data.

That is a magnificent place - simply awesome scenery and replete with
fish. I recall sending an EHC through a small falls with a bow and
arrow cast and snagging a 12 inch brown hiding in the underlying pool.

Tom

rod tip question
 

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:43:29 GMT, a-happy-up-yours
wrote:

If you're thinking about that place with the waterfall, big pools, long
sluice along a granite wall, etc., I think I still have the GPS data.

That is a magnificent place - simply awesome scenery and replete with
fish. I recall sending an EHC through a small falls with a bow and
arrow cast and snagging a 12 inch brown hiding in the underlying pool.

That's the one. IIRC there was a nice clearing nearby that would be a
great campsite.
--
Charlie...

rod tip question
 

Charlie Choc wrote:

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:43:29 GMT, a-happy-up-yours
wrote:


If you're thinking about that place with the waterfall, big pools, long
sluice along a granite wall, etc., I think I still have the GPS data.

That is a magnificent place - simply awesome scenery and replete with
fish. I recall sending an EHC through a small falls with a bow and
arrow cast and snagging a 12 inch brown hiding in the underlying pool.


That's the one. IIRC there was a nice clearing nearby that would be a
great campsite.

Yep, campsite 20 feet from the water. I'll dig out the data and send it
via email.

rod tip question
 

a-happy-up-yours wrote:

Yep, campsite 20 feet from the water. I'll dig out the data and send it
via email.

Thanks, I appreciate it. Send it to cchoc at bellsouth dot net, which is
my 'real' email. If it's as nice as I remember I may just stay. g
--
Charlie...

rod tip question
 

"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
news:5W%Xb.40731$fZ6.33260@lakeread06...
indian joe and i are talking about an april trip.

Wayne Harrison wrote:

well, the very best time would be mid april. but then, there's the
question of penn's in mid may...

if you would commit to a mid-april trip, we could probably form up a
mini-clave with wally, zimbo, jeffie, pj, opie, me... in the big water
in
the smokies.

Tough choice for me. I DO love those mountain streams......but Penn's is
the big one....and Roger is going to be there this year.....my chance to
meet a jenuine European. Of course, I would love to do both, and my
accountant, my boss, and probably Becky as well think it's a lovely
idea......but I suspect that they all view it as yet another opportunity to
beat me. :(

Wolfgang