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Any interest?
I will certainly lend assistance in planning. I think that the rivers will be blown thru the beginiing of July so maybe end of July? - Aug is too hot Just a thought.. Norton Buffalo aka James Cotton aka Sonny Boy Williamson #2 aka Brownie McGee aka Larry Adler |
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flebow wrote:
Any interest? This would be a good opportunity to finally put to rest the Fawn Lake rumor. What we need is an expedition equipped with GPS devices and digital cameras. Any volunteers ? Jeffie ? -- Ken Fortenberry |
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"flebow" wrote in message ... Any interest? I will certainly lend assistance in planning. I think that the rivers will be blown thru the beginiing of July so maybe end of July? - Aug is too hot Just a thought.. Norton Buffalo aka James Cotton aka Sonny Boy Williamson #2 aka Brownie McGee aka Larry Adler I might be able to make an MT. clave depending on the time frame. JT |
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On 2011-02-09 13:56:46 -0500, flebow said:
Any interest? July? I'd be interested depending on where in MT. Dave |
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On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:18:39 -0500, D. LaCourse
wrote: On 2011-02-09 13:56:46 -0500, flebow said: Any interest? July? I'd be interested depending on where in MT. Dave We have a magical piecm of land that I would like to share w many of you We have room for 6-8 people in our cabin = barn appt and a room in our hse If women come they would be happy and comfortable - Dogs galore! Methinks The rivers will be blown out any earlier - Any comments from otghers pleae??? One would have to fly in to Glacier Int'l AP and then after a day of rest and fishing for non angler wary large rainbows Rules are respect the land and lake abd watch your trash 2 atunsten shot only- IWe have it for all No organic substances in the lake No felt soles or other boats besides our 3 Barbless and mainly C & R No females to be killed- We may have another 2 yrs on ours at $8.99 per fish We can kill an older male oor 2 and smoke him for our trip We would have to drive down south I am sorry no goats Joanne made me promise to get rid of them and to never have any more goats after our 2 nubian females ate her garden. We have the North and Middle Fork of the Flathead River here and the Bob Marshall wilderness but the best fishing is closer to and in Yellowstone 8- 8 HR drive w a stop in Bozeman - a cool town I woudl imagine that you allrefer your own but we have a few backup 5-6 wts Again Just a thought... I need to plan the trip back East soon Dave I will let you know Fred |
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"flebow" wrote in message ... On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:18:39 -0500, D. LaCourse wrote: On 2011-02-09 13:56:46 -0500, flebow said: Any interest? July? I'd be interested depending on where in MT. Dave We have a magical piecm of land that I would like to share w many of you We have room for 6-8 people in our cabin = barn appt and a room in our hse If women come they would be happy and comfortable - Dogs galore! Methinks The rivers will be blown out any earlier - Any comments from otghers pleae??? One would have to fly in to Glacier Int'l AP and then after a day of rest and fishing for non angler wary large rainbows Rules are respect the land and lake abd watch your trash 2 atunsten shot only- IWe have it for all No organic substances in the lake No felt soles or other boats besides our 3 Barbless and mainly C & R No females to be killed- We may have another 2 yrs on ours at $8.99 per fish We can kill an older male oor 2 and smoke him for our trip We would have to drive down south I am sorry no goats Joanne made me promise to get rid of them and to never have any more goats after our 2 nubian females ate her garden. We have the North and Middle Fork of the Flathead River here and the Bob Marshall wilderness but the best fishing is closer to and in Yellowstone 8- 8 HR drive w a stop in Bozeman - a cool town I woudl imagine that you allrefer your own but we have a few backup 5-6 wts Again Just a thought... I need to plan the trip back East soon Dave I will let you know Fred What town is closest to your home? Might be cool that have another clave central near Rock Creek or the Bitterroot, which would give a multitude of options for a 7 - 10 day clave? JT |
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On Feb 9, 1:05*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: flebow wrote: Any interest? This would be a good opportunity to finally put to rest the Fawn Lake rumor. What we need is an expedition equipped with GPS devices and digital cameras. Any volunteers ? Jeffie ? -- Ken Fortenberry moron. g. BOO! :) |
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On Feb 9, 3:43*pm, flebow wrote:
....If women come *they would be happy *and comfortable - Dogs galore! Um.......Eeeeeeewwwww! :( ...atunsten Gesundheit! shot only- IWe have it for all Can we bring our own clean glasses? No organic substances in the lake Dang! We were hoping for fish. :( No females to be killed Talk to the dogs. We can kill an older male oor 2 and smoke him for our trip Older is easy. We will leave the short arm inspection to the first volunteer. We would have to drive down south Don't know the terrain, myself. But based on the outline thus far, I'd suggest you drive FAST! I am sorry no goats Joanne made me promise to get rid of them and to never have any more goats *after our 2 nubian females ate her garden. Only sheep need apply.....got it. Again *Just a thought... Well, a fraction of one, anyway. I need to plan the trip back East soon Dave I will let you know Fred Well, hell, let us ALL know. I mean, it's not like the extra postage is gonna kill ya.....right? g. for whom, it must be admitted, party planning has ALWAYS been a great deal more exciting and fulfilling than the inevitably tedious denouement. baaaaaaa |
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On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:43:15 -0800, "JT"
wrote: "flebow" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:18:39 -0500, D. LaCourse wrote: On 2011-02-09 13:56:46 -0500, flebow said: Any interest? July? I'd be interested depending on where in MT. Dave We have a magical piecm of land that I would like to share w many of you We have room for 6-8 people in our cabin = barn appt and a room in our hse If women come they would be happy and comfortable - Dogs galore! Methinks The rivers will be blown out any earlier - Any comments from otghers pleae??? One would have to fly in to Glacier Int'l AP and then after a day of rest and fishing for non angler wary large rainbows Rules are respect the land and lake abd watch your trash 2 atunsten shot only- IWe have it for all No organic substances in the lake No felt soles or other boats besides our 3 Barbless and mainly C & R No females to be killed- We may have another 2 yrs on ours at $8.99 per fish We can kill an older male oor 2 and smoke him for our trip We would have to drive down south I am sorry no goats Joanne made me promise to get rid of them and to never have any more goats after our 2 nubian females ate her garden. We have the North and Middle Fork of the Flathead River here and the Bob Marshall wilderness but the best fishing is closer to and in Yellowstone 8- 8 HR drive w a stop in Bozeman - a cool town I woudl imagine that you allrefer your own but we have a few backup 5-6 wts Again Just a thought... I need to plan the trip back East soon Dave I will let you know Fred What town is closest to your home? Might be cool that have another clave central near Rock Creek or the Bitterroot, which would give a multitude of options for a 7 - 10 day clave? JT Kalispell is the closest city and Glacier Int'l 7-10 days is OK by I have 3 fruemnds that want to go to Yellow stone We were supposed to go last yr But I got real sick (cold) in Sept I would take my truck w full cab and a camper top or I may buy a slide in camper We would have to rent some cars. Or meet some prople I would like to go nto Yellowstine & not go out for aweek Where are you? I think that we both know Rock Creek well. Fred |
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On 2/9/2011 2:05 PM, Ken Fortenberry wrote:
flebow wrote: Any interest? This would be a good opportunity to finally put to rest the Fawn Lake rumor. What we need is an expedition equipped with GPS devices and digital cameras. Any volunteers ? Jeffie ? if you agree to show up, and we have at least one other disinterested person accompany us to record and report the event...sure, i'm in. how about a bet? i say and bet there's a fawn lake. you say and bet it doesn't exist. loser pays the other's roundtrip airfare to bozeman, buys the night's meal and beer in the park, and makes a public statement on roff admitting the other person was right about fawn lake. i think i can walk us to the lake without a gps...it's just beyond the backcountry campground...but bring your gps. don't worry, i'll have a camera. gotta have a photo of you at the lake. we'll get warren to come along too. we can fish two small brookie streams and the lake. @ 12 miles roundtrip as i recall. i'm old, and i'm miserably out of shape...this will give me another reason to get fit. jeffie |
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On 2/9/2011 8:02 PM, jeff wrote:
i think i can walk us to the lake without a gps... oh, this is going to be good...... Tom |
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On Feb 9, 7:06*pm, Tom Littleton wrote:
On 2/9/2011 8:02 PM, jeff wrote: i think i can walk us to the lake without a gps... oh, this is going to be good...... * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Tom Well, yeah, if you're a rabid fan of butchery practised to the level of effortless routine. But.....you've pretty much demonstrated (quite recently.....once again) that that ain't the case.....ainna? :) g. who, admittedly, rarely rejects an abjectly self-humiliating invitation. |
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Joe the Elder offers -- I'm real interested in getting Fawn lake bet
--having spend a day there with Charlie Chock and lugging his heavy camera bag around---- missed trip to Montana last year after six years of great trips out that way and would welcome a good reason to drive out that way and wet a line this summer. I'll put up $2000 against forty's $ 1000 that says Fawn Lake is there and let the boss man at Blue Ribbon Flies be the JUDGE ! Buy the way Craig Mathews of BRF warned me to be alert for bears when fishing that area. Joe |
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On Feb 9, 5:02*pm, jeff wrote:
On 2/9/2011 2:05 PM, Ken Fortenberry wrote: flebow wrote: Any interest? This would be a good opportunity to finally put to rest the Fawn Lake rumor. What we need is an expedition equipped with GPS devices and digital cameras. Any volunteers ? Jeffie ? if you agree to show up, and we have at least one other disinterested person accompany us to record and report the event...sure, i'm in. how about a bet? i say and bet there's a fawn lake. *you say and bet it doesn't exist. loser pays the other's roundtrip airfare to bozeman, buys the night's meal and beer in the park, and makes a public statement on roff admitting the other person was right about fawn lake. i think i can walk us to the lake without a gps...it's just beyond the backcountry campground...but bring your gps. *don't worry, i'll have a camera. gotta have a photo of you at the lake. we'll get warren to come along too. we can fish two small brookie streams and the lake. @ 12 miles roundtrip as i recall. *i'm old, and i'm miserably out of shape...this will give me another reason to get fit. jeffie Whoa friends. Why not make the bet a bit more in line with the times and such? After all it is just a disagreement about the geography of a place of which neither of you guys are resident. Good people can be good and wrong; it is normal. I suggest that he who loses the bet gets to buy me a new Sage rod. That would be fair. Dave |
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DaveS wrote:
jeff wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: This would be a good opportunity to finally put to rest the Fawn Lake rumor. What we need is an expedition equipped with GPS devices and digital cameras. Any volunteers ? Jeffie ? if you agree to show up, and we have at least one other disinterested person accompany us to record and report the event...sure, i'm in. snip Whoa friends. ... Whoa is right. There's no way in hell *I'm* going to schlep all the way up there. That would defeat the purpose of the whole exercise which is to get *Jeffie* to schlep all the way up there. Again. LOL !! -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On 2/10/2011 7:51 AM, Ken Fortenberry wrote:
DaveS wrote: jeff wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: This would be a good opportunity to finally put to rest the Fawn Lake rumor. What we need is an expedition equipped with GPS devices and digital cameras. Any volunteers ? Jeffie ? if you agree to show up, and we have at least one other disinterested person accompany us to record and report the event...sure, i'm in. snip Whoa friends. ... Whoa is right. There's no way in hell *I'm* going to schlep all the way up there. That would defeat the purpose of the whole exercise which is to get *Jeffie* to schlep all the way up there. Again. LOL !! as i suspected. all hat, no cattle. it's a pleasant hike, great scenery, and a lake with big brook trout. two small streams...headwaters of the gardner and fawn creek, full of brook trout. i'd love to go back again. but, having done it twice, the third time will be simply to prove yellowstone kenny doesn't know what he's talking about. i think he's saved me the effort by his refusal to back up his ignorant bluster. jeff |
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On 2/9/2011 8:59 PM, Injun Joe wrote:
Joe the Elder offers -- I'm real interested in getting Fawn lake bet --having spend a day there with Charlie Chock and lugging his heavy camera bag around---- missed trip to Montana last year after six years of great trips out that way and would welcome a good reason to drive out that way and wet a line this summer. I'll put up $2000 against forty's $ 1000 that says Fawn Lake is there and let the boss man at Blue Ribbon Flies be the JUDGE ! Buy the way Craig Mathews of BRF warned me to be alert for bears when fishing that area. Joe i'll bet $2000 to frothy's $250... |
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On 2011-02-10 08:17:45 -0500, jeff said:
On 2/10/2011 7:51 AM, Ken Fortenberry wrote: DaveS wrote: jeff wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: This would be a good opportunity to finally put to rest the Fawn Lake rumor. What we need is an expedition equipped with GPS devices and digital cameras. Any volunteers ? Jeffie ? if you agree to show up, and we have at least one other disinterested person accompany us to record and report the event...sure, i'm in. snip Whoa friends. ... Whoa is right. There's no way in hell *I'm* going to schlep all the way up there. That would defeat the purpose of the whole exercise which is to get *Jeffie* to schlep all the way up there. Again. LOL !! as i suspected. all hat, no cattle. it's a pleasant hike, great scenery, and a lake with big brook trout. two small streams...headwaters of the gardner and fawn creek, full of brook trout. i'd love to go back again. but, having done it twice, the third time will be simply to prove yellowstone kenny doesn't know what he's talking about. i think he's saved me the effort by his refusal to back up his ignorant bluster. jeff Amen! |
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On Wed, 09 Feb 2011 16:54:55 -0700, flebow
wrote: On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:43:15 -0800, "JT" wrote: "flebow" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:18:39 -0500, D. LaCourse wrote: On 2011-02-09 13:56:46 -0500, flebow said: Any interest? July? I'd be interested depending on where in MT. Dave We have a magical piecm of land that I would like to share w many of you We have room for 6-8 people in our cabin = barn appt and a room in our hse If women come they would be happy and comfortable - Dogs galore! Methinks The rivers will be blown out any earlier - Any comments from otghers pleae??? One would have to fly in to Glacier Int'l AP and then after a day of rest and fishing for non angler wary large rainbows Rules are respect the land and lake abd watch your trash 2 atunsten shot only- IWe have it for all No organic substances in the lake No felt soles or other boats besides our 3 Barbless and mainly C & R No females to be killed- We may have another 2 yrs on ours at $8.99 per fish We can kill an older male oor 2 and smoke him for our trip We would have to drive down south I am sorry no goats Joanne made me promise to get rid of them and to never have any more goats after our 2 nubian females ate her garden. We have the North and Middle Fork of the Flathead River here and the Bob Marshall wilderness but the best fishing is closer to and in Yellowstone 8- 8 HR drive w a stop in Bozeman - a cool town I woudl imagine that you allrefer your own but we have a few backup 5-6 wts Again Just a thought... I need to plan the trip back East soon Dave I will let you know Fred What town is closest to your home? What may be best is that we meet some of you in Bozeman or at the Park entrance or campsite But If this is gonna happen some people will have to help organize it. We are going to Yellowstone in July ewgardless for 7 -10 days I owuld suggest oeople chk fares to Missoula, Bozeman , Kalispell , w Yellowstone and Gardner Angel Pagan Might be cool that have another clave central near Rock Creek or the Bitterroot, which would give a multitude of options for a 7 - 10 day clave? JT Kalispell is the closest city and Glacier Int'l 7-10 days is OK by I have 3 fruemnds that want to go to Yellow stone We were supposed to go last yr But I got real sick (cold) in Sept I would take my truck w full cab and a camper top or I may buy a slide in camper We would have to rent some cars. Or meet some prople I would like to go nto Yellowstine & not go out for aweek Where are you? I think that we both know Rock Creek well. Fred |
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On Feb 9, 10:56*am, flebow wrote:
Any interest? I think that the rivers will be blown \ I'm planning on coming prepared to be more serious on stillwaters for a back-up plan early this year .... I've never done Henry's Lake ( drive by it dozens of times a year ), for instance, or the Blackfoot lakes in your general vicinity. There are several western Montana rivers I keep meaning to visit, the Bitterroot most noted .... but they may not be at the levels I'd like to fish until late in the year .... I have a friend that routinely hits that area as part of his Fall schedule and I may join him this year. However, it's my guess that, snow pack numbers aside, this won't be a hugely late season, more like normal .... a "normal" that hasn't been the norm ... lately Springs when it's still snowing fairly often in Yellowstone well into June can be really good fishing .... ah, IME |
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:03:36 -0800 (PST), Larry L
wrote: On Feb 9, 10:56*am, flebow wrote: Any interest? I think that the rivers will be blown \ I'm planning on coming prepared to be more serious on stillwaters for a back-up plan early this year .... I've never done Henry's Lake ( drive by it dozens of times a year ), for instance, or the Blackfoot lakes in your general vicinity. There are several western Montana rivers I keep meaning to visit, the Bitterroot most noted .... but they may not be at the levels I'd like to fish until late in the year .... I have a friend that routinely hits that area as part of his Fall schedule and I may join him this year. However, it's my guess that, snow pack numbers aside, this won't be a hugely late season, more like normal .... a "normal" that hasn't been the norm ... lately Springs when it's still snowing fairly often in Yellowstone well into June can be really good fishing .... ah, IME I would still figure the rivers will be blown thru June Which is why I may head to the East Coast to fish w my nephews and When I coome back - Yellowstone - mid July If you want to fish the Blackfoot lakes Its in Browning and you do not want to stay in Browning You alos need a rez licensc $30-$60 Let me know before you go. Joe Kipp is the #1 Indian Guide and he takes you to places that only the tribe now of - JUst beautiful Joe also has a good section of Cut Bank Creek runnung thru his propet and that is a good fishery Moron g |
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On Feb 10, 9:56*am, flebow wrote:
I would still figure the rivers will be blown thru June Which is why I may head to the East Coast to fish w my nephews and When I coome back - Yellowstone - mid July It's always hard to know in advance, sometimes, like last year, even a few days in advance, whether a given section of a given river will be in good condition on a given date. The Madison below Quake is the most popular area fishing destination and mid-July is "always" a good bet there, something worthwhile will be happening, if not the same thing as previous years at the same dates. I don't fish down there much at all, so my comments will always pertain to different waters or sections of the Madison. I saw on another forum that a mid-July clave-like thing was happening based at Campfire lodge (which is on the Madison, between the lakes, I think). If you don't work out something with this group, contact me and I'll send you a link, if you're interested. As for the Blackfoot Lakes ... I have "the book" and they have long been on my list. I don't do guides, for many reasons, but I'm sure the one you suggest is a good one, for those that do. |
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On Feb 9, 10:41*pm, DaveS wrote:
On Feb 9, 5:02*pm, jeff wrote: On 2/9/2011 2:05 PM, Ken Fortenberry wrote: flebow wrote: Any interest? This would be a good opportunity to finally put to rest the Fawn Lake rumor. What we need is an expedition equipped with GPS devices and digital cameras. Any volunteers ? Jeffie ? if you agree to show up, and we have at least one other disinterested person accompany us to record and report the event...sure, i'm in. how about a bet? i say and bet there's a fawn lake. *you say and bet it doesn't exist. loser pays the other's roundtrip airfare to bozeman, buys the night's meal and beer in the park, and makes a public statement on roff admitting the other person was right about fawn lake. i think i can walk us to the lake without a gps...it's just beyond the backcountry campground...but bring your gps. *don't worry, i'll have a camera. gotta have a photo of you at the lake. we'll get warren to come along too. we can fish two small brookie streams and the lake. @ 12 miles roundtrip as i recall. *i'm old, and i'm miserably out of shape...this will give me another reason to get fit. jeffie Whoa friends. Why not make the bet a bit more in line with the times and such? After all it is just a disagreement about the geography of a place of which neither of you guys are resident. Good people can be good and wrong; it is normal. I suggest that he who loses the bet gets to buy me a new Sage rod. That would be fair. Dave Don't have much of an opinion on whether or not the suggested payout would be fair, but I think it bears keeping in mind that the bet has already been won. Still, ya almost gotta give the doughboy credit for tenacity.....if not originality. Many a twelve year old boy has used the tactic of eternal insistent denial to his advantage. No, it doesn't convince anyone.....but it generally wears them down eventually. giles |
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On Feb 10, 7:17*am, jeff wrote:
On 2/10/2011 7:51 AM, Ken Fortenberry wrote: DaveS wrote: jeff wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: This would be a good opportunity to finally put to rest the Fawn Lake rumor. What we need is an expedition equipped with GPS devices and digital cameras. Any volunteers ? Jeffie ? if you agree to show up, and we have at least one other disinterested person accompany us to record and report the event...sure, i'm in. snip Whoa friends. ... Whoa is right. There's no way in hell *I'm* going to schlep all the way up there. That would defeat the purpose of the whole exercise which is to get *Jeffie* to schlep all the way up there. Again. LOL !! as i suspected. all hat, no cattle. Not quite. It's actually a no hat, no cattle scenario. The doughboy knows that he screwed the pooch several years ago (well, actually, it was the pooch that "got lucky".....assuming it had low standards and expectations......but your average canid takes what it can find under a barstool, I guess), and knows that nobody is buying any of his pathetic bull****. This is what happens in a no retreat, no way forward, and no room for lateral movement situation. It would all be ineffably sad (to your average humanist) if it weren't so GODDAMN FUNNY! :) it's a pleasant hike, great scenery, and a lake with big brook trout. two small streams...headwaters of the gardner and fawn creek, full of brook trout. Speaking of brookies, I heard a bit of a program on climate change on public radio yesterday. Best guess predictions based on current best bet climatological models are that coulee country could well lose anywhere from 30 to 90 percent of its brook trout suitable habitat in the next half century or so. I say **** a bunch of Fawn Lake and get back up here in early June. Deluxe accommodations. Home cooked meals......and everything you ever wanted to hear about chestnut, walnut, butternut, hickory, hazel, etc......all at no extra charge. Hiking available on request.....if you insist. i'd love to go back again. *but, having done it twice, the third time will be simply to prove yellowstone kenny doesn't know what he's talking about. Hm..... Stretch yourself. Prove that the sun rises in the east. Prove that birds can (mostly) fly. Prove that fire is hot. Prove that trees have roots. **** a bunch of doughboy. EVERYBODY already knows that the doughboy is the perennial poster child for bathos. It's been done to death. Even the ceritifiable idiots here know that the doughboy is a sad joke. i think he's saved me the effort by his refusal to back up his ignorant bluster. Correction; you've KNOWN that for years.....as have the rest of us. Still, favorite toy non disputandum est, ainna? :) giles who is seriously considering hosting a gathering in the driftless area of southwestern cheeselandia in early june if there is any interest. for now, suffice it to say that there are many many miles of superb trout water (in terms of production, if not necessarily everybody's personal aesthetic ideal) within thirty minutes drive.....not to mention a ton and a half of sublime (if not necessarily grandiose) scenery. three beds and tent space for a hundred or so available......book early, book often. |
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On 2/10/2011 5:40 PM, Giles wrote:
Speaking of brookies, I heard a bit of a program on climate change on public radio yesterday. Best guess predictions based on current best bet climatological models are that coulee country could well lose anywhere from 30 to 90 percent of its brook trout suitable habitat in the next half century or so. I say **** a bunch of Fawn Lake and get back up here in early June. Deluxe accommodations. Home cooked meals......and everything you ever wanted to hear about chestnut, walnut, butternut, hickory, hazel, etc......all at no extra charge. Hiking available on request.....if you insist. sounds great...i'll need to see what's happening hereabouts first as i have a 2 week trip planned in march, and a bit of home construction - an addition to the house - beginning soon, which is guaranteed contractor hell. but, for pre-planning and full-of-hope, good intention purposes, what's the nearest airport...milwaukee? jeff |
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On Feb 10, 6:19*pm, jeff wrote:
On 2/10/2011 5:40 PM, Giles wrote: Speaking of brookies, I heard a bit of a program on climate change on public radio yesterday. *Best guess predictions based on current best bet climatological models are that coulee country could well lose anywhere from 30 to 90 percent of its brook trout suitable habitat in the next half century or so. *I say **** a bunch of Fawn Lake and get back up here in early June. *Deluxe accommodations. Home cooked meals......and everything you ever wanted to hear about chestnut, walnut, butternut, hickory, hazel, etc......all at no extra charge. Hiking available on request.....if you insist. sounds great...i'll need to see what's happening hereabouts first as i have a 2 week trip planned in march, and a bit of home construction - an addition to the house - beginning soon, which is guaranteed contractor hell. One could say, "think of it as an adventure!", :) but then, one has heard that said to bone marrow transplant recipients.....and donors. :( but, for pre-planning and full-of-hope, good intention purposes, what's the nearest airport...milwaukee? La Crosse (LAX), about 25 miles down the road. Nice view of the father of waters on the approach.....not to mention on landing. Not a "major" airport by any stretch of the imagination, but it definitely has regularly scheduled flights to and from Milwaukee and Minneapolis (the latter being marginally closer and perhaps a bit cheaper) and probably Detroit and Chicago as well, though I haven't actually checked on the latter two. In any case, Milwaukee and Minneapolis are the closest major airports and are about equidistant from Sparta at roughly 3 hours' drive, and would probably represent a substantial savings over flying directly into La Crosse. Either way is a nice enough drive.....in daylight.....otherwise its just a three hour drive. Not a problem. giles who has never actually experienced it himself, but supposes that landing in/on/next to one of the world's great rivers has a certain charm all its own.....at leat at this time of year when, in these latitudes, it essentially completely frozen over. :) |
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On Feb 10, 11:56*am, flebow wrote:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 09:03:36 -0800 (PST), Larry L wrote: On Feb 9, 10:56 am, flebow wrote: Any interest? I think that the rivers will be blown \ I'm planning on coming prepared to be more serious on stillwaters *for a back-up plan early this year .... I've never done Henry's Lake ( drive by it dozens of times a year ), for instance, or the Blackfoot lakes in your general vicinity. * *There are several western Montana rivers I keep meaning to visit, the Bitterroot most noted *.... but they may not be at the levels I'd like to fish until late in the year .... I have a friend that routinely hits that area as part of his Fall schedule and I may join him this year. However, it's my guess that, snow pack numbers aside, this won't be a hugely late season, more like normal .... a "normal" that hasn't been the norm ... lately Springs when it's still snowing fairly often in Yellowstone well into June can be really good fishing .... ah, IME I would still figure the rivers will be blown thru June Which is why I may head to the East Coast to fish w my nephews and When I coome back - Yellowstone - mid July If you want to fish the Blackfoot lakes Its in Browning and you do not want to stay in Browning You alos need a rez licensc $30-$60 Let me know before you go. Joe Kipp is the #1 Indian Guide and he takes you to places that only the tribe now of - JUst beautiful Joe also has a good section of Cut Bank Creek runnung thru his propet and that is a good fishery Moron g moron. g. its the simple things that betray one. |
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:53:05 -0800 (PST), Larry L
wrote: As for the Blackfoot Lakes ... I have "the book" and they have long been on my list. I don't do guides, for many reasons, but I'm sure the one you suggest is a good one, for those that do. I unerstand re guides Sometimes, in a new place we will go one day and pick his brain then fish on my or our own In ths case you will never get to ggod water w/o an IIndian guide ass many areas are only fopr tribal memnbers Fred |
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On 2/10/2011 9:24 PM, Giles wrote:
On Feb 10, 6:19 pm, wrote: On 2/10/2011 5:40 PM, Giles wrote: Speaking of brookies, I heard a bit of a program on climate change on public radio yesterday. Best guess predictions based on current best bet climatological models are that coulee country could well lose anywhere from 30 to 90 percent of its brook trout suitable habitat in the next half century or so. I say **** a bunch of Fawn Lake and get back up here in early June. Deluxe accommodations. Home cooked meals......and everything you ever wanted to hear about chestnut, walnut, butternut, hickory, hazel, etc......all at no extra charge. Hiking available on request.....if you insist. sounds great...i'll need to see what's happening hereabouts first as i have a 2 week trip planned in march, and a bit of home construction - an addition to the house - beginning soon, which is guaranteed contractor hell. One could say, "think of it as an adventure!", :) but then, one has heard that said to bone marrow transplant recipients.....and donors. :( but, for pre-planning and full-of-hope, good intention purposes, what's the nearest airport...milwaukee? La Crosse (LAX), about 25 miles down the road. Nice view of the father of waters on the approach.....not to mention on landing. Not a "major" airport by any stretch of the imagination, but it definitely has regularly scheduled flights to and from Milwaukee and Minneapolis (the latter being marginally closer and perhaps a bit cheaper) and probably Detroit and Chicago as well, though I haven't actually checked on the latter two. In any case, Milwaukee and Minneapolis are the closest major airports and are about equidistant from Sparta at roughly 3 hours' drive, and would probably represent a substantial savings over flying directly into La Crosse. Either way is a nice enough drive.....in daylight.....otherwise its just a three hour drive. Not a problem. giles who has never actually experienced it himself, but supposes that landing in/on/next to one of the world's great rivers has a certain charm all its own.....at leat at this time of year when, in these latitudes, it essentially completely frozen over. :) having never seen a full grown chestnut tree, and as an admirer of the coulee country streams (at least to the extent my weak grey matter allows a recollection - i do remember an apparition, a log that miraculously became a fish - and, trout that shared a universe with cows...well, i'm on go if it can be fashioned from the rough fabric that usually envelopes me. another trip to wisconsin seems a worthy adventure...not to ignore or minimize your own good company (and cooking). it would be excellent luck to see joel and george and becky and...well...june is a lifetime from now, and one i hope to live. i'll start checking flight schedules and costs. you start checking on the spotted cow... jeff jeff |
Montana Clave?
On 2/9/2011 8:02 PM, jeff wrote:
On 2/9/2011 2:05 PM, Ken Fortenberry wrote: flebow wrote: Any interest? This would be a good opportunity to finally put to rest the Fawn Lake rumor. What we need is an expedition equipped with GPS devices and digital cameras. Any volunteers ? Jeffie ? if you agree to show up, and we have at least one other disinterested person accompany us to record and report the event...sure, i'm in. how about a bet? i say and bet there's a fawn lake. you say and bet it doesn't exist. loser pays the other's roundtrip airfare to bozeman, buys the night's meal and beer in the park, and makes a public statement on roff admitting the other person was right about fawn lake. i think i can walk us to the lake without a gps...it's just beyond the backcountry campground...but bring your gps. don't worry, i'll have a camera. gotta have a photo of you at the lake. we'll get warren to come along too. we can fish two small brookie streams and the lake. @ 12 miles roundtrip as i recall. i'm old, and i'm miserably out of shape...this will give me another reason to get fit. jeffie since the bet has been avoided... here's a link sent to me by a friend... http://www.yellowstone.co/lakes/fawn.htm jeffie |
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jeff typed:
On 2/9/2011 8:02 PM, jeff wrote: On 2/9/2011 2:05 PM, Ken Fortenberry wrote: flebow wrote: Any interest? This would be a good opportunity to finally put to rest the Fawn Lake rumor. What we need is an expedition equipped with GPS devices and digital cameras. Any volunteers ? Jeffie ? if you agree to show up, and we have at least one other disinterested person accompany us to record and report the event...sure, i'm in. how about a bet? i say and bet there's a fawn lake. you say and bet it doesn't exist. loser pays the other's roundtrip airfare to bozeman, buys the night's meal and beer in the park, and makes a public statement on roff admitting the other person was right about fawn lake. i think i can walk us to the lake without a gps...it's just beyond the backcountry campground...but bring your gps. don't worry, i'll have a camera. gotta have a photo of you at the lake. we'll get warren to come along too. we can fish two small brookie streams and the lake. @ 12 miles roundtrip as i recall. i'm old, and i'm miserably out of shape...this will give me another reason to get fit. since the bet has been avoided... here's a link sent to me by a friend... http://www.yellowstone.co/lakes/fawn.htm You DO realize you're being tweaked by the master-tweaker, right? ;-) -- TL, Tim |
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"flebow" wrote in message ... On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:43:15 -0800, "JT" wrote: "flebow" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:18:39 -0500, D. LaCourse wrote: On 2011-02-09 13:56:46 -0500, flebow said: Any interest? July? I'd be interested depending on where in MT. Dave We have a magical piecm of land that I would like to share w many of you We have room for 6-8 people in our cabin = barn appt and a room in our hse If women come they would be happy and comfortable - Dogs galore! Methinks The rivers will be blown out any earlier - Any comments from otghers pleae??? One would have to fly in to Glacier Int'l AP and then after a day of rest and fishing for non angler wary large rainbows Rules are respect the land and lake abd watch your trash 2 atunsten shot only- IWe have it for all No organic substances in the lake No felt soles or other boats besides our 3 Barbless and mainly C & R No females to be killed- We may have another 2 yrs on ours at $8.99 per fish We can kill an older male oor 2 and smoke him for our trip We would have to drive down south I am sorry no goats Joanne made me promise to get rid of them and to never have any more goats after our 2 nubian females ate her garden. We have the North and Middle Fork of the Flathead River here and the Bob Marshall wilderness but the best fishing is closer to and in Yellowstone 8- 8 HR drive w a stop in Bozeman - a cool town I woudl imagine that you allrefer your own but we have a few backup 5-6 wts Again Just a thought... I need to plan the trip back East soon Dave I will let you know Fred What town is closest to your home? Might be cool that have another clave central near Rock Creek or the Bitterroot, which would give a multitude of options for a 7 - 10 day clave? JT Kalispell is the closest city and Glacier Int'l 7-10 days is OK by I have 3 fruemnds that want to go to Yellow stone We were supposed to go last yr But I got real sick (cold) in Sept I would take my truck w full cab and a camper top or I may buy a slide in camper We would have to rent some cars. Or meet some prople I would like to go nto Yellowstine & not go out for aweek Where are you? I think that we both know Rock Creek well. Fred I'm 40 miles north of Spokane... Not sure I will be able to do more than a few days myself. A trip to the Missoula area is easy for a weekend plus a couple day trip. Yellowstone might be a stretch given the time consideration. If you want to do a Yellowstone clave, definitely go for it though. JT |
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Tim J. wrote:
jeff typed: since the bet has been avoided... You DO realize you're being tweaked by the master-tweaker, right? ;-) I suppose we're still looking for volunteers with cameras *AND* GPS units to settle the Fawn Lake rumor. You will remember that no one has ever been photographed standing in or around the alleged Fawn Lake while at the same time displaying their GPS coordinates to the camera. Given that this rumor has been floating around for several years now I find that lack of documentation more than just a little suspicious. Don't you ? -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 08:21:22 -0800, "JT" wrote: "flebow" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:43:15 -0800, "JT" wrote: "flebow" wrote in message ... On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 15:18:39 -0500, D. LaCourse wrote: On 2011-02-09 13:56:46 -0500, flebow said: Any interest? July? I'd be interested depending on where in MT. Dave We have a magical piecm of land that I would like to share w many of you We have room for 6-8 people in our cabin = barn appt and a room in our hse If women come they would be happy and comfortable - Dogs galore! Methinks The rivers will be blown out any earlier - Any comments from otghers pleae??? One would have to fly in to Glacier Int'l AP and then after a day of rest and fishing for non angler wary large rainbows Rules are respect the land and lake abd watch your trash 2 atunsten shot only- IWe have it for all No organic substances in the lake No felt soles or other boats besides our 3 Barbless and mainly C & R No females to be killed- We may have another 2 yrs on ours at $8.99 per fish We can kill an older male oor 2 and smoke him for our trip We would have to drive down south I am sorry no goats Joanne made me promise to get rid of them and to never have any more goats after our 2 nubian females ate her garden. We have the North and Middle Fork of the Flathead River here and the Bob Marshall wilderness but the best fishing is closer to and in Yellowstone 8- 8 HR drive w a stop in Bozeman - a cool town I woudl imagine that you allrefer your own but we have a few backup 5-6 wts Again Just a thought... I need to plan the trip back East soon Dave I will let you know Fred What town is closest to your home? Might be cool that have another clave central near Rock Creek or the Bitterroot, which would give a multitude of options for a 7 - 10 day clave? JT Kalispell is the closest city and Glacier Int'l 7-10 days is OK by I have 3 fruemnds that want to go to Yellow stone We were supposed to go last yr But I got real sick (cold) in Sept I would take my truck w full cab and a camper top or I may buy a slide in camper We would have to rent some cars. Or meet some prople I would like to go nto Yellowstine & not go out for aweek Where are you? I think that we both know Rock Creek well. Fred I'm 40 miles north of Spokane... Not sure I will be able to do more than a few days myself. A trip to the Missoula area is easy for a weekend plus a couple day trip. Yellowstone might be a stretch given the time consideration. If you want to do a Yellowstone clave, definitely go for it though. JT We are a bit SWW of Kalispell So you are about 3 hrs from us I will dio Yellow Stobne anyway but IO do not see too many people serious about going I am going to Yellow stone w frends anyway FL |
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On Feb 11, 9:49*am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: no one has ever been photographed standing in or around the alleged Fawn Lake while at the same time displaying their GPS coordinates to the camera. Given that this rumor has been floating around for several years now I find that lack of documentation more than just a little suspicious. Don't you ? 1) There are GPS coordinates on the map on Jeff's link. Plus a satellite image with trails marked. Is it or is it not the location of (what you call) Fawn Lake? 2) Anyone who has looked at even a few satellite images would recognize a body of water. The lake is full in the picture. 3) As far as I can tell, a little tab in the lower left seems to indicate the picture was taken in 1994? Assuming you answer yes to (1), are you contending that it has since dried up? Or is this some vast conspiracy...like the faked moon landings? Curious minds want to know. Jon. (Personally, my best _logical_ explanation is that you indeed did see it after perhaps a few years of drought and it _was_ hardly there, and that others visited it after it returned to a status like that in the picture...but then who ever said there must be a logical explanation for this particular roffian spat?) |
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Jonathan Cook wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote: no one has ever been photographed standing in or around the alleged Fawn Lake while at the same time displaying their GPS coordinates to the camera. Given that this rumor has been floating around for several years now I find that lack of documentation more than just a little suspicious. Don't you ? 1) There are GPS coordinates on the map on Jeff's link. Plus a satellite image with trails marked. Is it or is it not the location of (what you call) Fawn Lake? 2) Anyone who has looked at even a few satellite images would recognize a body of water. The lake is full in the picture. 3) As far as I can tell, a little tab in the lower left seems to indicate the picture was taken in 1994? Assuming you answer yes to (1), are you contending that it has since dried up? Or is this some vast conspiracy...like the faked moon landings? Curious minds want to know. That is not really a lake. It just looks like a lake from certain angles. Like I said, I have never seen a photograph of the so-called Fawn Lake *AND* the GPS coordinates in the same frame. You'd think that after all the roffian expeditions undertaken to *prove* this rumor of a lake exists that someone would have thought to display the GPS coordinates. Sounds fishy to me. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On Feb 11, 11:28*am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: That is not really a lake. It just looks like a lake from certain angles. Like I said, I have never seen a photograph of the so-called Fawn Lake *AND* the GPS coordinates in the same frame. You'd think that after all the roffian expeditions undertaken to *prove* this rumor of a lake exists that someone would have thought to display the GPS coordinates. Sounds fishy to me. -- Ken Fortenberry If someone DID post a photo of Fawn Lake *AND* the GPS coordinates you'd merely claim it a fake. |
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On 2/11/2011 1:52 PM, Tim J. wrote:
If someone DID post a photo of Fawn Lake *AND* the GPS coordinates you'd merely claim it a fake. Yeah, but since having them go through the exercise over and over again is the goal, it kinda makes sense, right? I'm starting to wonder if someone out there is paying a commission for every tourist traveling the trail down to Fawn Lake. Somehow, Forty must have to be getting a cut of the action. Tom |
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On Feb 10, 9:25*pm, jeff wrote:
On 2/10/2011 9:24 PM, Giles wrote: On Feb 10, 6:19 pm, *wrote: On 2/10/2011 5:40 PM, Giles wrote: Speaking of brookies, I heard a bit of a program on climate change on public radio yesterday. *Best guess predictions based on current best bet climatological models are that coulee country could well lose anywhere from 30 to 90 percent of its brook trout suitable habitat in the next half century or so. *I say **** a bunch of Fawn Lake and get back up here in early June. *Deluxe accommodations. Home cooked meals......and everything you ever wanted to hear about chestnut, walnut, butternut, hickory, hazel, etc......all at no extra charge. Hiking available on request.....if you insist. sounds great...i'll need to see what's happening hereabouts first as i have a 2 week trip planned in march, and a bit of home construction - an addition to the house - beginning soon, which is guaranteed contractor hell. One could say, "think of it as an adventure!", * * * * :) but then, one has heard that said to bone marrow transplant recipients.....and donors. * * * :( but, for pre-planning and full-of-hope, good intention purposes, what's the nearest airport...milwaukee? La Crosse (LAX), about 25 miles down the road. *Nice view of the father of waters on the approach.....not to mention on landing. Not a "major" airport by any stretch of the imagination, but it definitely has regularly scheduled flights to and from Milwaukee and Minneapolis (the latter being marginally closer and perhaps a bit cheaper) and probably Detroit and Chicago as well, though I haven't actually checked on the latter two. In any case, Milwaukee and Minneapolis are the closest major airports and are about equidistant from Sparta at roughly 3 hours' drive, and would probably represent a substantial savings over flying directly into La Crosse. *Either way is a nice enough drive.....in daylight.....otherwise its just a three hour drive. *Not a problem. giles who has never actually experienced it himself, but supposes that landing in/on/next to one of the world's great rivers has a certain charm all its own.....at leat at this time of year when, in these latitudes, it essentially completely frozen over. * * *:) having never seen a full grown chestnut tree, and as an admirer of the coulee country streams (at least to the extent my weak grey matter allows a recollection - i do remember an apparition, a log that miraculously became a fish - and, trout that shared a universe with cows...well, i'm on go if it can be fashioned from the rough fabric that usually envelopes me. another trip to wisconsin seems a worthy adventure...not to ignore or minimize your own good company (and cooking). it would be excellent luck to see joel and george and becky and...well...june is a lifetime from now, and one i hope to live. *i'll start checking flight schedules and costs. you start checking on the spotted cow... jeff Many of the trees have succumed to the chryphonectria, and we find more infected individuals all the time. However, there are still plenty of apparently healthy adult trees left. You'll be impressed by how rapidly they grow. The log that became a fish was, most appropriately, in Timber Coulee. A recent acquaintance showed me a photo of a fish his young son caught (on a worm) in a stream not far from there (or from some other waters we sampled.....or from here, fot that matter) a couple of years ago. Brown trout.....29 inches. :) I'll make an announcement of some sort in a couple of week.....after I've had some time to think about logistics. We'll see who we can dredge up. giles |
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