A rare opportunity...
 

Anyone...? I hope to someday.

http://video.patagonia.com/video/Eas...rc=052611_bvi1

So cool,
JT

A rare opportunity...
 

On 2011-05-27 13:19:25 -0400, "JT" said:

Anyone...? I hope to someday.

http://video.patagonia.com/video/Eas...rc=052611_bvi1

So

cool,
JT

I went to Kamchatka in 05, Jeff. Although I had a wonderful time and
caught many rainbows in the 28 - 32 inch range, it is not a land for
old men. Fishing for Dolly Vardens with size 16 and 18 dries was a
hoot, but catching BIG rainbows with mouse patterns was the big draw.
You could see the fish coming for the mouse (think of a submarine
running on the surface with a pressure wave from the hull). big smile

I floated the Zhuponava River for six days. I had Putin's Revenge from
the food, but I'd do it again in a second. Almost went this year, but
swmbo talked me out of it because of my new hip. I'm going to Labrador
instead -- easier logistics.

In the trailer it looked like they travelled through Moscow. That was
the only way to go this year. However, they are supposed to resume
flights from Anchorage to Petropavlosk (4 hour flight). States to
Anchorage - overnight- very early flight to Petro.

Maybe next year..........dream bubble

http://dlacourse.shutterfly.com/

Dave

A rare opportunity...
 

On May 28, 5:34*am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 16:33:44 -0400, "JT" said:

Incredible! So what did that trip run door step to door step in '05 and
how much would you figure if you had gone this season? On a scale of 1
- 10, where did this trip rate? What trip would you do over again
because it was so good.

I believe the cost for the trip was about $4k, plus air fare to
Anchorage, the overnight, and air fare to Petro. *I remember the fare
to Petro was $1200 which I thought was a bit steep. *I think it went
for about $5700 this year, plus travel to Moscow and then on to Petro. *
The air fare was expensive as was the overnight in Moscow.


The Kamchatka trip is up to about $10,500 now...
http://www.flyfishingtravel.com/kamchatka/index.html

--riverman

A rare opportunity...
 

On 2011-05-27 21:53:08 -0400, Myron Buck said:

On May 28, 5:34*am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 16:33:44 -0400, "JT" said:

Incredible! So what did that trip run door step to door step in '05 and
how much would you figure if you had gone this season? On a scale of 1
- 10, where did this trip rate? What trip would you do over again
because it was so good.

I believe the cost for the trip was about $4k, plus air fare to
Anchorage, the overnight, and air fare to Petro. *I remember the fare
to Petro was $1200 which I thought was a bit steep. *I think it went
for about $5700 this year, plus travel to Moscow and then on to Petro.
*
The air fare was expensive as was the overnight in Moscow.


The Kamchatka trip is up to about $10,500 now...
http://www.flyfishingtravel.com/kamchatka/index.html

--riverman

That's the steelhead trip. Twelve days instead of the normal six. The
trips to the Sedanka and the Zhupanava are around $6000. I was
planning on the steelhead trip, but swmbo......... d;o)


Dave

A rare opportunity...
 

On May 28, 11:02*am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 21:53:08 -0400, Myron Buck said:





On May 28, 5:34*am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 16:33:44 -0400, "JT" said:

Incredible! So what did that trip run door step to door step in '05 and
how much would you figure if you had gone this season? On a scale of 1
- 10, where did this trip rate? What trip would you do over again
because it was so good.

I believe the cost for the trip was about $4k, plus air fare to
Anchorage, the overnight, and air fare to Petro. *I remember the fare
to Petro was $1200 which I thought was a bit steep. *I think it went
for about $5700 this year, plus travel to Moscow and then on to Petro.
*
The air fare was expensive as was the overnight in Moscow.

The Kamchatka trip is up to about $10,500 now...
http://www.flyfishingtravel.com/kamchatka/index.html

--riverman

That's the steelhead trip. *Twelve days instead of the normal six. *The
trips to the Sedanka and the Zhupanava are around $6000. *I was
planning on the steelhead trip, but swmbo......... * d;o)

Dave

Hmm, $6K for a six day trip, plus expenses? That's kinda steep. Why
not come join me for a Taimen trip in Mongolia...its $4700 for a 10-
day trip. I know you have Labrador already booked, but we could do a
trip at the end of July. :-)

A rare opportunity...
 

On 2011-05-28 00:39:56 -0400, Myron Buck said:

On May 28, 11:02*am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 21:53:08 -0400, Myron Buck said:





On May 28, 5:34*am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 16:33:44 -0400, "JT" said
:

Incredible! So what did that trip run door step to door step in '05 a
nd
how much would you figure if you had gone this season? On a scale of
1
- 10, where did this trip rate? What trip would you do over again
because it was so good.

I believe the cost for the trip was about $4k, plus air fare to
Anchorage, the overnight, and air fare to Petro. *I remember the far
e
to Petro was $1200 which I thought was a bit steep. *I think it went
for about $5700 this year, plus travel to Moscow and then on to Petro.
*
The air fare was expensive as was the overnight in Moscow.

The Kamchatka trip is up to about $10,500 now...
http://www.flyfishingtravel.com/kamchatka/index.html

--riverman

That's the steelhead trip. *Twelve days instead of the normal six. *T
he
trips to the Sedanka and the Zhupanava are around $6000. *I was
planning on the steelhead trip, but swmbo......... * d;o)

Dave

Hmm, $6K for a six day trip, plus expenses? That's kinda steep. Why
not come join me for a Taimen trip in Mongolia...its $4700 for a 10-
day trip. I know you have Labrador already booked, but we could do a
trip at the end of July. :-)

I'd love to, Myron. However, my summer is pretty much scheduled.
Living in Georgia we don't get to see the kids that often, so when we
are in Mass they take priority.

Remind me in Feb/March. Taimen......hmmmmm.

Dave

A rare opportunity...
 

myron...i'm interested in mongolia and taimen...but unsure of flight
issues. any advice about flights from eastern us...and what is $ extra
once there? thanks.

jeff

On 5/28/2011 12:39 AM, Myron Buck wrote:
On May 28, 11:02 am, D. wrote:
On 2011-05-27 21:53:08 -0400, Myron said:





On May 28, 5:34 am, D. wrote:
On 2011-05-27 16:33:44 -0400, said:

Incredible! So what did that trip run door step to door step in '05 and
how much would you figure if you had gone this season? On a scale of 1
- 10, where did this trip rate? What trip would you do over again
because it was so good.

I believe the cost for the trip was about $4k, plus air fare to
Anchorage, the overnight, and air fare to Petro. I remember the fare
to Petro was $1200 which I thought was a bit steep. I think it went
for about $5700 this year, plus travel to Moscow and then on to Petro.

The air fare was expensive as was the overnight in Moscow.

The Kamchatka trip is up to about $10,500 now...
http://www.flyfishingtravel.com/kamchatka/index.html

--riverman

That's the steelhead trip. Twelve days instead of the normal six. The
trips to the Sedanka and the Zhupanava are around $6000. I was
planning on the steelhead trip, but swmbo......... d;o)

Dave

Hmm, $6K for a six day trip, plus expenses? That's kinda steep. Why
not come join me for a Taimen trip in Mongolia...its $4700 for a 10-
day trip. I know you have Labrador already booked, but we could do a
trip at the end of July. :-)

A rare opportunity...
 

On May 28, 2:48*pm, jeff wrote:

myron...i'm interested in mongolia and taimen...but unsure of flight
issues. *any advice about flights from eastern us...and what is $ extra
once there? *thanks.

jeff

No authority on Mongolia, taimen, or heavier than air flight myself,
and most emphatically (and obviously, one would suppose) not
Myron.....but "flight issues" would appear to necessarily include
transport in or on heavier than air (actually, MUCH heavier than air)
vehicles.

Or can operant conditioning legitimately claim yet another convert to
the "fear is illusion" school of thought? :)

g.
who has still not met a beet he would trust with the least of his
worldly posessions or his well-being (however illusory). :(

A rare opportunity...
 

generic clonazepam...prescribed for restless leg syndrome... does
surprisingly well with the mind weasels too. we sleep.

seems whisky and proper drugs smooth out my splintered fears in such
things...getting the combo right can be interesting too. as i near that
long quiet night, i'm gonna try to experience some different stuff.
looking toward the glow of fishing in mongolia seems a reasonable part
of my "howlings at the moon". just ciphering at the moment... budget has
been walloped by some new required construction here in g'ville, but the
possibility of adventure always gives a reason to be...

jeff

On 5/28/2011 7:36 PM, Giles wrote:
On May 28, 2:48 pm, wrote:

myron...i'm interested in mongolia and taimen...but unsure of flight
issues. any advice about flights from eastern us...and what is $ extra
once there? thanks.

jeff

No authority on Mongolia, taimen, or heavier than air flight myself,
and most emphatically (and obviously, one would suppose) not
Myron.....but "flight issues" would appear to necessarily include
transport in or on heavier than air (actually, MUCH heavier than air)
vehicles.

Or can operant conditioning legitimately claim yet another convert to
the "fear is illusion" school of thought? :)

g.
who has still not met a beet he would trust with the least of his
worldly posessions or his well-being (however illusory). :(

A rare opportunity...
 

On 2011-05-28 00:39:56 -0400, Myron Buck said:

On May 28, 11:02*am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 21:53:08 -0400, Myron Buck said:





On May 28, 5:34*am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 16:33:44 -0400, "JT" said
:

Incredible! So what did that trip run door step to door step in '05 a
nd
how much would you figure if you had gone this season? On a scale of
1
- 10, where did this trip rate? What trip would you do over again
because it was so good.

I believe the cost for the trip was about $4k, plus air fare to
Anchorage, the overnight, and air fare to Petro. *I remember the far
e
to Petro was $1200 which I thought was a bit steep. *I think it went
for about $5700 this year, plus travel to Moscow and then on to Petro.
*
The air fare was expensive as was the overnight in Moscow.

The Kamchatka trip is up to about $10,500 now...
http://www.flyfishingtravel.com/kamchatka/index.html

--riverman

That's the steelhead trip. *Twelve days instead of the normal six. *T
he
trips to the Sedanka and the Zhupanava are around $6000. *I was
planning on the steelhead trip, but swmbo......... * d;o)

Dave

Hmm, $6K for a six day trip, plus expenses? That's kinda steep. Why
not come join me for a Taimen trip in Mongolia...its $4700 for a 10-
day trip. I know you have Labrador already booked, but we could do a
trip at the end of July. :-)

A cursory check of airfares show the cheapest flights at $2675 up to
$5+k, with a total time of 22 hours from Atlanta to Ulaanbaatar.

A rare opportunity...
 

On 5/29/2011 8:34 AM, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-28 00:39:56 -0400, Myron Buck said:

On May 28, 11:02 am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 21:53:08 -0400, Myron Buck said:





On May 28, 5:34 am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 16:33:44 -0400, "JT" said
:

Incredible! So what did that trip run door step to door step in '05 a
nd
how much would you figure if you had gone this season? On a scale of
1
- 10, where did this trip rate? What trip would you do over again
because it was so good.

I believe the cost for the trip was about $4k, plus air fare to
Anchorage, the overnight, and air fare to Petro. I remember the far
e
to Petro was $1200 which I thought was a bit steep. I think it went
for about $5700 this year, plus travel to Moscow and then on to Petro.

The air fare was expensive as was the overnight in Moscow.

The Kamchatka trip is up to about $10,500 now...
http://www.flyfishingtravel.com/kamchatka/index.html

--riverman

That's the steelhead trip. Twelve days instead of the normal six. T
he
trips to the Sedanka and the Zhupanava are around $6000. I was
planning on the steelhead trip, but swmbo......... d;o)

Dave

Hmm, $6K for a six day trip, plus expenses? That's kinda steep. Why
not come join me for a Taimen trip in Mongolia...its $4700 for a 10-
day trip. I know you have Labrador already booked, but we could do a
trip at the end of July. :-)

A cursory check of airfares show the cheapest flights at $2675 up to
$5+k, with a total time of 22 hours from Atlanta to Ulaanbaatar.

uh...well mongolia is out...no way i can sedate myself for 24 hrs of
travel, and i'm done with $10k trips... reckon it's graham county,
carteret county, and hyde county til the lights get cut off...

jeff

A rare opportunity...
 

On 2011-05-29 10:28:44 -0400, jeff said:



On 5/29/2011 8:34 AM, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-28 00:39:56 -0400, Myron Buck said:

On May 28, 11:02 am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 21:53:08 -0400, Myron Buck said:





On May 28, 5:34 am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 16:33:44 -0400, "JT" said
:

Incredible! So what did that trip run door step to door step in '05 a
nd
how much would you figure if you had gone this season? On a scale of
1
- 10, where did this trip rate? What trip would you do over again
because it was so good.

I believe the cost for the trip was about $4k, plus air fare to
Anchorage, the overnight, and air fare to Petro. I remember the far
e
to Petro was $1200 which I thought was a bit steep. I think it went
for about $5700 this year, plus travel to Moscow and then on to Petro.

The air fare was expensive as was the overnight in Moscow.

The Kamchatka trip is up to about $10,500 now...
http://www.flyfishingtravel.com/kamchatka/index.html

--riverman

That's the steelhead trip. Twelve days instead of the normal six. T
he
trips to the Sedanka and the Zhupanava are around $6000. I was
planning on the steelhead trip, but swmbo......... d;o)

Dave

Hmm, $6K for a six day trip, plus expenses? That's kinda steep. Why
not come join me for a Taimen trip in Mongolia...its $4700 for a 10-
day trip. I know you have Labrador already booked, but we could do a
trip at the end of July. :-)

A cursory check of airfares show the cheapest flights at $2675 up to
$5+k, with a total time of 22 hours from Atlanta to Ulaanbaatar.

uh...well mongolia is out...no way i can sedate myself for 24 hrs of
travel, and i'm done with $10k trips... reckon it's graham county,
carteret county, and hyde county til the lights get cut off...

jeff

It is a looooong trip, that's fer sure.

In camp. Black flies are as bad as I've ever seen 'em. Dam is running
at 8000 cfs, or flood stage if you like. A few spots to fish and not
many folks in camp, so should have a spot or two in the a.m. It was
warm, in the low 80s, but has cooled off, thankfully. Gonna be good
sleepin' tonight.

Dave

A rare opportunity...
 

On May 29, 10:28*pm, jeff wrote:
On 5/29/2011 8:34 AM, D. LaCourse wrote:





On 2011-05-28 00:39:56 -0400, Myron Buck said:

On May 28, 11:02 am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 21:53:08 -0400, Myron Buck said:

On May 28, 5:34 am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 16:33:44 -0400, "JT" said
:

Incredible! So what did that trip run door step to door step in '05 a
nd
how much would you figure if you had gone this season? On a scale of
1
- 10, where did this trip rate? What trip would you do over again
because it was so good.

I believe the cost for the trip was about $4k, plus air fare to
Anchorage, the overnight, and air fare to Petro. *I remember the far
e
to Petro was $1200 which I thought was a bit steep. *I think it went
for about $5700 this year, plus travel to Moscow and then on to Petro.

The air fare was expensive as was the overnight in Moscow.

The Kamchatka trip is up to about $10,500 now...
http://www.flyfishingtravel.com/kamchatka/index.html

--riverman

That's the steelhead trip. *Twelve days instead of the normal six. *T
he
trips to the Sedanka and the Zhupanava are around $6000. *I was
planning on the steelhead trip, but swmbo......... * d;o)

Dave

Hmm, $6K for a six day trip, plus expenses? That's kinda steep. Why
not come join me for a Taimen trip in Mongolia...its $4700 for a 10-
day trip. I know you have Labrador already booked, but we could do a
trip at the end of July. :-)

A cursory check of airfares show the cheapest flights at $2675 up to
$5+k, with a total time of 22 hours from Atlanta to Ulaanbaatar.

uh...well mongolia is out...no way i can sedate myself for 24 hrs of
travel, and i'm done with $10k trips... reckon it's graham county,
carteret county, and hyde county til the lights get cut off...

jeff

Sorry I missed your post. Yeah, Mongolia is pretty far away, so it
takes a bit to get there. The best flights connect through Seoul, so
you can break up the flight with a shower and a nap or even a few days
checking out the sights (SK is not NK), and you can get the price down
if you buy the tickets separately (ATL-ICN (Seoul)) is $1900, ICN-ULN
is about $600. The onriver part is about $4.5K, so the total is near
$7-8K, not $10. But the fishing...omfg...20 pound taimen (lol, my
spellcheck keeps changing it to 'taxmen') slamming giant gurglers, 24
inch lennok taking dries, big greyling slamming streamers. The $4.5K
includes all in-country transport, rafts, food, tents, guide, etc. If
you're a canoeman, the price can come down considerably from there if
we do a canoe trip (it requires fewer guides, since the clients take
their own boats).

Unlike Kamchatka, this is more hospitable...the river is class 2, the
camps are spacious, and the scenery is pristine. Check out the
outfitters page: www.fishmongolia.com

I'm booked for July 1-10, then hopefully the following week for a
canoe trip. :-)))))))

A rare opportunity...
 

On May 30, 4:46*pm, riverman wrote:
On May 29, 10:28*pm, jeff wrote:





On 5/29/2011 8:34 AM, D. LaCourse wrote:

On 2011-05-28 00:39:56 -0400, Myron Buck said:

On May 28, 11:02 am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 21:53:08 -0400, Myron Buck said:

On May 28, 5:34 am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 16:33:44 -0400, "JT" said
:

Incredible! So what did that trip run door step to door step in '05 a
nd
how much would you figure if you had gone this season? On a scale of
1
- 10, where did this trip rate? What trip would you do over again
because it was so good.

I believe the cost for the trip was about $4k, plus air fare to
Anchorage, the overnight, and air fare to Petro. *I remember the far
e
to Petro was $1200 which I thought was a bit steep. *I think it went
for about $5700 this year, plus travel to Moscow and then on to Petro.

The air fare was expensive as was the overnight in Moscow.

The Kamchatka trip is up to about $10,500 now...
http://www.flyfishingtravel.com/kamchatka/index.html

--riverman

That's the steelhead trip. *Twelve days instead of the normal six.. *T
he
trips to the Sedanka and the Zhupanava are around $6000. *I was
planning on the steelhead trip, but swmbo......... * d;o)

Dave

Hmm, $6K for a six day trip, plus expenses? That's kinda steep. Why
not come join me for a Taimen trip in Mongolia...its $4700 for a 10-
day trip. I know you have Labrador already booked, but we could do a
trip at the end of July. :-)

A cursory check of airfares show the cheapest flights at $2675 up to
$5+k, with a total time of 22 hours from Atlanta to Ulaanbaatar.

uh...well mongolia is out...no way i can sedate myself for 24 hrs of
travel, and i'm done with $10k trips... reckon it's graham county,
carteret county, and hyde county til the lights get cut off...

jeff

Sorry I missed your post. Yeah, Mongolia is pretty far away, so it
takes a bit to get there. The best flights connect through Seoul, so
you can break up the flight with a shower and a nap or even a few days
checking out the sights (SK is not NK), and you can get the price down
if you buy the tickets separately (ATL-ICN (Seoul)) is $1900, ICN-ULN
is about $600. *The onriver part is about $4.5K, so the total is near
$7-8K, not $10. But the fishing...omfg...20 pound taimen (lol, my
spellcheck keeps changing it to 'taxmen') slamming giant gurglers, 24
inch lennok taking dries, big greyling slamming streamers. The $4.5K
includes all in-country transport, rafts, food, tents, guide, etc. If
you're a canoeman, the price can come down considerably from there if
we do a canoe trip (it requires fewer guides, since the clients take
their own boats).

Unlike Kamchatka, this is more hospitable...the river is class 2, the
camps are spacious, and the scenery is pristine. Check out the
outfitters page:www.fishmongolia.com

I'm booked for July 1-10, then hopefully the following week for a
canoe trip. :-)))))))

Oh, and few mosquitoes since there is little standing water. :-)

A rare opportunity...
 

On May 30, 2:46*am, riverman wrote:
On May 29, 10:28*pm, jeff wrote:





On 5/29/2011 8:34 AM, D. LaCourse wrote:

On 2011-05-28 00:39:56 -0400, Myron Buck said:

On May 28, 11:02 am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 21:53:08 -0400, Myron Buck said:

On May 28, 5:34 am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 16:33:44 -0400, "JT" said
:

Incredible! So what did that trip run door step to door step in '05 a
nd
how much would you figure if you had gone this season? On a scale of
1
- 10, where did this trip rate? What trip would you do over again
because it was so good.

I believe the cost for the trip was about $4k, plus air fare to
Anchorage, the overnight, and air fare to Petro. *I remember the far
e
to Petro was $1200 which I thought was a bit steep. *I think it went
for about $5700 this year, plus travel to Moscow and then on to Petro.

The air fare was expensive as was the overnight in Moscow.

The Kamchatka trip is up to about $10,500 now...
http://www.flyfishingtravel.com/kamchatka/index.html

--riverman

That's the steelhead trip. *Twelve days instead of the normal six.. *T
he
trips to the Sedanka and the Zhupanava are around $6000. *I was
planning on the steelhead trip, but swmbo......... * d;o)

Dave

Hmm, $6K for a six day trip, plus expenses? That's kinda steep. Why
not come join me for a Taimen trip in Mongolia...its $4700 for a 10-
day trip. I know you have Labrador already booked, but we could do a
trip at the end of July. :-)

A cursory check of airfares show the cheapest flights at $2675 up to
$5+k, with a total time of 22 hours from Atlanta to Ulaanbaatar.

uh...well mongolia is out...no way i can sedate myself for 24 hrs of
travel, and i'm done with $10k trips... reckon it's graham county,
carteret county, and hyde county til the lights get cut off...

jeff

Sorry I missed your post. Yeah, Mongolia is pretty far away, so it
takes a bit to get there. The best flights connect through Seoul, so
you can break up the flight with a shower and a nap or even a few days
checking out the sights (SK is not NK), and you can get the price down
if you buy the tickets separately (ATL-ICN (Seoul)) is $1900, ICN-ULN
is about $600. *The onriver part is about $4.5K, so the total is near
$7-8K, not $10. But the fishing...omfg...20 pound taimen (lol, my
spellcheck keeps changing it to 'taxmen') slamming giant gurglers, 24
inch lennok taking dries, big greyling slamming streamers. The $4.5K
includes all in-country transport, rafts, food, tents, guide, etc. If
you're a canoeman, the price can come down considerably from there if
we do a canoe trip (it requires fewer guides, since the clients take
their own boats).

Unlike Kamchatka, this is more hospitable...the river is class 2, the
camps are spacious, and the scenery is pristine. Check out the
outfitters page:www.fishmongolia.com

I'm booked for July 1-10, then hopefully the following week for a
canoe trip. :-)))))))

Sounds like a great adventure. Tight lines.

A rare opportunity...
 

On 2011-05-30 04:46:00 -0400, riverman said:

Sorry I missed your post. Yeah, Mongolia is pretty far away, so it
takes a bit to get there. The best flights connect through Seoul, so
you can break up the flight with a shower and a nap or even a few days
checking out the sights (SK is not NK), and you can get the price down
if you buy the tickets separately (ATL-ICN (Seoul)) is $1900, ICN-ULN
is about $600. The onriver part is about $4.5K, so the total is near
$7-8K, not $10. But the fishing...omfg...20 pound taimen (lol, my
spellcheck keeps changing it to 'taxmen') slamming giant gurglers, 24
inch lennok taking dries, big greyling slamming streamers. The $4.5K
includes all in-country transport, rafts, food, tents, guide, etc. If
you're a canoeman, the price can come down considerably from there if
we do a canoe trip (it requires fewer guides, since the clients take
their own boats).

Unlike Kamchatka, this is more hospitable...the river is class 2, the
camps are spacious, and the scenery is pristine. Check out the
outfitters page: www.fishmongolia.com

I'm booked for July 1-10, then hopefully the following week for a
canoe trip. :-)))))))

Hope you have a good time. Sounds like quite the trip. I see from the
site that they have camels. It would be worth the trip to see Jeffy
and wayno on a camel. The thought boggles my mind (if I had one).
Good luck.

Dave

A rare opportunity...
 

On May 30, 3:46*am, riverman wrote:
On May 29, 10:28*pm, jeff wrote:





On 5/29/2011 8:34 AM, D. LaCourse wrote:

On 2011-05-28 00:39:56 -0400, Myron Buck said:

On May 28, 11:02 am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 21:53:08 -0400, Myron Buck said:

On May 28, 5:34 am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 16:33:44 -0400, "JT" said
:

Incredible! So what did that trip run door step to door step in '05 a
nd
how much would you figure if you had gone this season? On a scale of
1
- 10, where did this trip rate? What trip would you do over again
because it was so good.

I believe the cost for the trip was about $4k, plus air fare to
Anchorage, the overnight, and air fare to Petro. *I remember the far
e
to Petro was $1200 which I thought was a bit steep. *I think it went
for about $5700 this year, plus travel to Moscow and then on to Petro.

The air fare was expensive as was the overnight in Moscow.

The Kamchatka trip is up to about $10,500 now...
http://www.flyfishingtravel.com/kamchatka/index.html

--riverman

That's the steelhead trip. *Twelve days instead of the normal six.. *T
he
trips to the Sedanka and the Zhupanava are around $6000. *I was
planning on the steelhead trip, but swmbo......... * d;o)

Dave

Hmm, $6K for a six day trip, plus expenses? That's kinda steep. Why
not come join me for a Taimen trip in Mongolia...its $4700 for a 10-
day trip. I know you have Labrador already booked, but we could do a
trip at the end of July. :-)

A cursory check of airfares show the cheapest flights at $2675 up to
$5+k, with a total time of 22 hours from Atlanta to Ulaanbaatar.

uh...well mongolia is out...no way i can sedate myself for 24 hrs of
travel, and i'm done with $10k trips... reckon it's graham county,
carteret county, and hyde county til the lights get cut off...

jeff

Sorry I missed your post. Yeah, Mongolia is pretty far away, so it
takes a bit to get there. The best flights connect through Seoul, so
you can break up the flight with a shower and a nap or even a few days
checking out the sights (SK is not NK), and you can get the price down
if you buy the tickets separately (ATL-ICN (Seoul)) is $1900, ICN-ULN
is about $600. *The onriver part is about $4.5K, so the total is near
$7-8K, not $10. But the fishing...omfg...20 pound taimen (lol, my
spellcheck keeps changing it to 'taxmen') slamming giant gurglers, 24
inch lennok taking dries, big greyling slamming streamers. The $4.5K
includes all in-country transport, rafts, food, tents, guide, etc. If
you're a canoeman, the price can come down considerably from there if
we do a canoe trip (it requires fewer guides, since the clients take
their own boats).

Unlike Kamchatka, this is more hospitable...the river is class 2, the
camps are spacious, and the scenery is pristine. Check out the
outfitters page:www.fishmongolia.com

I'm booked for July 1-10, then hopefully the following week for a
canoe trip. :-)))))))-

Hm.....

O.k., I'm not too big a man to admit that I may have been wrong. I
confess that your plea (delivered some years ago in these pages) was
met by at least one with a certain degree of......um......what shall
we call it......politely.....skepticism?

But it becomes ever more evident (if not to say undeniable) that
penury exerts a powerful influence and exacts a deep toll.

What was that email address of your congressperson again?

g.
who, truth be told, has been looking long, hard, and pretty much in
vain for a worthy cause pretty much ever since he discovered that he
had more money than god.

A rare opportunity...
 

On May 30, 8:45*am, " wrote:
On May 30, 2:46*am, riverman wrote:





On May 29, 10:28*pm, jeff wrote:

On 5/29/2011 8:34 AM, D. LaCourse wrote:

On 2011-05-28 00:39:56 -0400, Myron Buck said:

On May 28, 11:02 am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 21:53:08 -0400, Myron Buck said:

On May 28, 5:34 am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 16:33:44 -0400, "JT" said
:

Incredible! So what did that trip run door step to door step in '05 a
nd
how much would you figure if you had gone this season? On a scale of
1
- 10, where did this trip rate? What trip would you do over again
because it was so good.

I believe the cost for the trip was about $4k, plus air fare to
Anchorage, the overnight, and air fare to Petro. *I remember the far
e
to Petro was $1200 which I thought was a bit steep. *I think it went
for about $5700 this year, plus travel to Moscow and then on to Petro.

The air fare was expensive as was the overnight in Moscow.

The Kamchatka trip is up to about $10,500 now...
http://www.flyfishingtravel.com/kamchatka/index.html

--riverman

That's the steelhead trip. *Twelve days instead of the normal six. *T
he
trips to the Sedanka and the Zhupanava are around $6000. *I was
planning on the steelhead trip, but swmbo......... * d;o)

Dave

Hmm, $6K for a six day trip, plus expenses? That's kinda steep. Why
not come join me for a Taimen trip in Mongolia...its $4700 for a 10-
day trip. I know you have Labrador already booked, but we could do a
trip at the end of July. :-)

A cursory check of airfares show the cheapest flights at $2675 up to
$5+k, with a total time of 22 hours from Atlanta to Ulaanbaatar.

uh...well mongolia is out...no way i can sedate myself for 24 hrs of
travel, and i'm done with $10k trips... reckon it's graham county,
carteret county, and hyde county til the lights get cut off...

jeff

Sorry I missed your post. Yeah, Mongolia is pretty far away, so it
takes a bit to get there. The best flights connect through Seoul, so
you can break up the flight with a shower and a nap or even a few days
checking out the sights (SK is not NK), and you can get the price down
if you buy the tickets separately (ATL-ICN (Seoul)) is $1900, ICN-ULN
is about $600. *The onriver part is about $4.5K, so the total is near
$7-8K, not $10. But the fishing...omfg...20 pound taimen (lol, my
spellcheck keeps changing it to 'taxmen') slamming giant gurglers, 24
inch lennok taking dries, big greyling slamming streamers. The $4.5K
includes all in-country transport, rafts, food, tents, guide, etc. If
you're a canoeman, the price can come down considerably from there if
we do a canoe trip (it requires fewer guides, since the clients take
their own boats).

Unlike Kamchatka, this is more hospitable...the river is class 2, the
camps are spacious, and the scenery is pristine. Check out the
outfitters page:www.fishmongolia.com

I'm booked for July 1-10, then hopefully the following week for a
canoe trip. :-)))))))

Sounds like a great adventure. Tight lines.

Sounds like a hoot. Big penis!

g.

A rare opportunity...
 

On May 30, 11:11*am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-30 04:46:00 -0400, riverman said:





Sorry I missed your post. Yeah, Mongolia is pretty far away, so it
takes a bit to get there. The best flights connect through Seoul, so
you can break up the flight with a shower and a nap or even a few days
checking out the sights (SK is not NK), and you can get the price down
if you buy the tickets separately (ATL-ICN (Seoul)) is $1900, ICN-ULN
is about $600. *The onriver part is about $4.5K, so the total is near
$7-8K, not $10. But the fishing...omfg...20 pound taimen (lol, my
spellcheck keeps changing it to 'taxmen') slamming giant gurglers, 24
inch lennok taking dries, big greyling slamming streamers. The $4.5K
includes all in-country transport, rafts, food, tents, guide, etc. If
you're a canoeman, the price can come down considerably from there if
we do a canoe trip (it requires fewer guides, since the clients take
their own boats).

Unlike Kamchatka, this is more hospitable...the river is class 2, the
camps are spacious, and the scenery is pristine. Check out the
outfitters page:www.fishmongolia.com

I'm booked for July 1-10, then hopefully the following week for a
canoe trip. :-)))))))

Hope you have a good time. *Sounds like quite the trip. *I see from the
site that they have camels. *It would be worth the trip to see Jeffy
and wayno on a camel. *The thought boggles my mind (if I had one). *
Good luck.

Dave

Not to seem perverse or anything, but seeing a camel on jeffie and
wayno would doubtless be even more interesting.

g.
and, no, you don't.....ipso fatso.

A rare opportunity...
 

On May 31, 7:18*am, Giles wrote:
On May 30, 3:46*am, riverman wrote:





On May 29, 10:28*pm, jeff wrote:

On 5/29/2011 8:34 AM, D. LaCourse wrote:

On 2011-05-28 00:39:56 -0400, Myron Buck said:

On May 28, 11:02 am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 21:53:08 -0400, Myron Buck said:

On May 28, 5:34 am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 16:33:44 -0400, "JT" said
:

Incredible! So what did that trip run door step to door step in '05 a
nd
how much would you figure if you had gone this season? On a scale of
1
- 10, where did this trip rate? What trip would you do over again
because it was so good.

I believe the cost for the trip was about $4k, plus air fare to
Anchorage, the overnight, and air fare to Petro. *I remember the far
e
to Petro was $1200 which I thought was a bit steep. *I think it went
for about $5700 this year, plus travel to Moscow and then on to Petro.

The air fare was expensive as was the overnight in Moscow.

The Kamchatka trip is up to about $10,500 now...
http://www.flyfishingtravel.com/kamchatka/index.html

--riverman

That's the steelhead trip. *Twelve days instead of the normal six. *T
he
trips to the Sedanka and the Zhupanava are around $6000. *I was
planning on the steelhead trip, but swmbo......... * d;o)

Dave

Hmm, $6K for a six day trip, plus expenses? That's kinda steep. Why
not come join me for a Taimen trip in Mongolia...its $4700 for a 10-
day trip. I know you have Labrador already booked, but we could do a
trip at the end of July. :-)

A cursory check of airfares show the cheapest flights at $2675 up to
$5+k, with a total time of 22 hours from Atlanta to Ulaanbaatar.

uh...well mongolia is out...no way i can sedate myself for 24 hrs of
travel, and i'm done with $10k trips... reckon it's graham county,
carteret county, and hyde county til the lights get cut off...

jeff

Sorry I missed your post. Yeah, Mongolia is pretty far away, so it
takes a bit to get there. The best flights connect through Seoul, so
you can break up the flight with a shower and a nap or even a few days
checking out the sights (SK is not NK), and you can get the price down
if you buy the tickets separately (ATL-ICN (Seoul)) is $1900, ICN-ULN
is about $600. *The onriver part is about $4.5K, so the total is near
$7-8K, not $10. But the fishing...omfg...20 pound taimen (lol, my
spellcheck keeps changing it to 'taxmen') slamming giant gurglers, 24
inch lennok taking dries, big greyling slamming streamers. The $4.5K
includes all in-country transport, rafts, food, tents, guide, etc. If
you're a canoeman, the price can come down considerably from there if
we do a canoe trip (it requires fewer guides, since the clients take
their own boats).

Unlike Kamchatka, this is more hospitable...the river is class 2, the
camps are spacious, and the scenery is pristine. Check out the
outfitters page:www.fishmongolia.com

I'm booked for July 1-10, then hopefully the following week for a
canoe trip. :-)))))))-

Hm.....

O.k., I'm not too big a man to admit that I may have been wrong. *I
confess that your plea (delivered some years ago in these pages) was
met by at least one with a certain degree of......um......what shall
we call it......politely.....skepticism?

But it becomes ever more evident (if not to say undeniable) that
penury exerts a powerful influence and exacts a deep toll.

What was that email address of your congressperson again?

g.
who, truth be told, has been looking long, hard, and pretty much in
vain for a worthy cause pretty much ever since he discovered that he
had more money than god.

Well, you missed the major gist of that post. I don't HAVE a
congressman; I don't live in the US and haven't for about 20 years.
And other than Iceland and Lichtenstein or something, that particular
legislation seemed and seems woefully inappropriate.

And you missed the other major gist. Living next door to Mongolia,
it's considerably cheaper to get there than you may be projecting
based on my post. And I'm also not paying the full rate for this trip,
working off my passage as it were in exchange for some training
workshops for the staff. And there are plenty of folks on ROFF, and in
the US in general, who would truly enjoy a trip and could afford to
come in the front door. If that excludes you, then thats how it goes.
But I suggest casting flies rather than aspersions.

But nonetheless...let her rip.

--riverman

A rare opportunity...
 

On Jun 1, 10:07*am, "JT" wrote:

I appreciate all the info!

JT

Info is wonderful stuff. I have, over the course of the past few
decades, had recourse to quite a bit of it myself. Not nearly the
equivalent of knowledge or understanding.....of course.....but it'll
do in a pinch.....if you like being pinched.

On the other hand......

****wit.

g.
give 'em what they want.....it's what they want.
don't ask why.

A rare opportunity...
 

On May 27, 2:34*pm, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-05-27 16:33:44 -0400, "JT" said:
SNIP
Dave
(All packed for the Rapid. *Flow is 700 cfs, so fishing will be excellent.)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My little river went from 1000+ cfs on the 26th to 350+ cfs today. In
the depth of irrigation season it goes down to100- cfs, and less, and
this March it hit 1500+ cfs and spread all the way to my sugar dike.
The river goes where it wants and does what it will. Huge snow pack in
the mountains this year. Hope the river stabilizes by next week.

So much moisture this year that the farmers are fighting rust fungus
in the wheat. Crop dusters working overtime whenever the wind cuts
out. These guys are incredible. But it is a bit disconcerting to look
out the camper window and see an airplane coming at you no more than
10 feet off the ground. ;+)) Reminded me of that old movie, "North by
Northwest." These guys are a blast to watch doing the valley fields.
Incredible pilots. Ex USMC close ground support if I were to guess.

With wheat prices so high no one wants to lose the crop. Prices for
last year's dregs are about $9.30+ for Hard Red Winter, and a bit more
for the coming harvest. My little field got a good set. Fingers
crossed on the rust however.

Dave
PS all my trees made it thru the Winter but with some damage from too
much snow and critters. All have live candles so I think they will
make it.

A rare opportunity...
 

"Giles" wrote in message
...

On Jun 2, 10:03 am, "JT" wrote:
"Giles" wrote in message


asshat...

JT :)

A rare opportunity...
 

On Jun 10, 3:31*pm, "JT" wrote:
"Giles" *wrote in message
....

On Jun 2, 10:03 am, "JT" wrote:

"Giles" *wrote in message

asshat...

JT :)

Well, no, Giles didn't actually write that.

Regardless, it conjures some very interesting images.

g.