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So I have been a little busy. Life, well... it's a kick in the ass at
times. As for fishing and tying, not like I use to. But I still get out from time to time. I have not been here on ROFF in years. I return and what the hell? Where did everybody go? I faded away due to just not being able to keep up. Now, no fear of that. Did you all move to a forum or something? I use to post under the name Goat. Nothing lasts forever but I am a little shocked. ROFF was a flurry of activity at one time. Really guys, did everybody jump to a forum or is this ember just hardly glowing? Chad |
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there's now a facebook page... a few of us geezers still check in here
on occasion. jeff On 12/1/2011 11:59 PM, Chad wrote: So I have been a little busy. Life, well... it's a kick in the ass at times. As for fishing and tying, not like I use to. But I still get out from time to time. I have not been here on ROFF in years. I return and what the hell? Where did everybody go? I faded away due to just not being able to keep up. Now, no fear of that. Did you all move to a forum or something? I use to post under the name Goat. Nothing lasts forever but I am a little shocked. ROFF was a flurry of activity at one time. Really guys, did everybody jump to a forum or is this ember just hardly glowing? Chad |
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Chad wrote:
snip Really guys, did everybody jump to a forum or is this ember just hardly glowing? Both. There is a ROFF group on Facebook which has slightly more traffic than Usenet roff. It's better for pictures and videos but not as good for "conversation". And there are a few folks who have a distrust of Facebook who keep the faint pulse of Usenet roff beating. roff is dead, long live roff -- Ken Fortenberry |
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Ken Fortenberry wrote in news:jbasdq$esa$1
@dont-email.me: Chad wrote: snip Really guys, did everybody jump to a forum or is this ember just hardly glowing? Both. There is a ROFF group on Facebook which has slightly more traffic than Usenet roff. It's better for pictures and videos but not as good for "conversation". And there are a few folks who have a distrust of Facebook who keep the faint pulse of Usenet roff beating. roff is dead, long live roff Oh yeah? Yer mother wears GI shorts and combat boots, so there. Frank Sr. (just wanted to let you know I'm still kickin' Kenny) :) |
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Frank Church wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote: roff is dead, long live roff Oh yeah? Yer mother wears GI shorts and combat boots, so there. Frank Sr. (just wanted to let you know I'm still kickin' Kenny) :) Well, one thing I know about roff's own masseuse magnet, if you're still breathin', you're still kickin'. Are you still living in Indiana ? -- Ken Fortenberry |
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Ken Fortenberry wrote in news:jbbkk3$io5$1
@dont-email.me: Frank Church wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: roff is dead, long live roff Oh yeah? Yer mother wears GI shorts and combat boots, so there. Frank Sr. (just wanted to let you know I'm still kickin' Kenny) :) Well, one thing I know about roff's own masseuse magnet, if you're still breathin', you're still kickin'. Are you still living in Indiana ? Yep, still in Fremont. Love this small town living, screw big citys. You'll be pleased to know that I have acquired 2 new Chinese POS Bamboo Rods, thereby spreading the wealth from Korean made POS'S to China, who God knows needs more of our business. /s/ Actually, very well made rods in my humble estimation, fit and finish as good as I've seen on any rod. |
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Chad typed:
did everybody jump to a forum or is this ember just hardly glowing? There are just no more fish, plain and simple. We've all taken up knitting and kite flying, so check those groups. Geez, I hope yarn and kite string don't go the way of the fishes. . . -- TL, Tim |
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Heck, I never have been able to find the facebook page...
I guess that makes me a geezer? john "jeff" wrote in message ... there's now a facebook page... a few of us geezers still check in here on occasion. jeff On 12/1/2011 11:59 PM, Chad wrote: So I have been a little busy. Life, well... it's a kick in the ass at times. As for fishing and tying, not like I use to. But I still get out from time to time. I have not been here on ROFF in years. I return and what the hell? Where did everybody go? I faded away due to just not being able to keep up. Now, no fear of that. Did you all move to a forum or something? I use to post under the name Goat. Nothing lasts forever but I am a little shocked. ROFF was a flurry of activity at one time. Really guys, did everybody jump to a forum or is this ember just hardly glowing? Chad |
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hey goat!
We never did get to together to fish the stillwater! What say you swing by my house tomorrow for some coffee and we will go fishing? john (formally asadi) "Chad" wrote in message ... So I have been a little busy. Life, well... it's a kick in the ass at times. As for fishing and tying, not like I use to. But I still get out from time to time. I have not been here on ROFF in years. I return and what the hell? Where did everybody go? I faded away due to just not being able to keep up. Now, no fear of that. Did you all move to a forum or something? I use to post under the name Goat. Nothing lasts forever but I am a little shocked. ROFF was a flurry of activity at one time. Really guys, did everybody jump to a forum or is this ember just hardly glowing? Chad |
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On Dec 3, 10:01*am, "john b" wrote:
hey goat! We never did get to together to fish the stillwater! *What say you swing by my house tomorrow for some coffee and we will go fishing? john (formally asadi) "Chad" *wrote in message ... So I have been a little busy. Life, well... it's a kick in the ass at times. As for fishing and tying, not like I use to. But I still get out from time to time. I have not been here on ROFF in years. I return and what the hell? Where did everybody go? I faded away due to just not being able to keep up. Now, no fear of that. Did you all move to a forum or something? I use to post under the name Goat. Nothing lasts forever but I am a little shocked. ROFF was a flurry of activity at one time. Really guys, did everybody jump to a forum or is this ember just hardly glowing? Chad Well hot damn. How do John? I will say that when seeking out ROFF once agian that I was just a little disheartened to see the decline. The internet is everwhere. In everbody's pocket. So easy. I figured this place would be a mad house. (notice I didn't say "nut house" I belive it is still probably a nut house) But I am seeing that several of the good folks are still around. This is fine news. Maybe I had the wrong idea altogether. Maybe there is just less bull**** to wade through? Wetting a line on the Stillwater needs to get done. This weekend sadly is a little booked for me. I have had some electrical issues come up with the house and will be spending my weekend off playing electrician. I have already thrown a spark or two but have yet, and I say yet, to shock myself. Kind of funny actually. "POP!" Insert wife "are you ok?" me "I am fine" wife "be careful, don't kill yourself" me "its just 110.. and beside... I am immortal... no worries" wife "not funny" And so it goes.... So John, I would really like to get together and fish a little. My schedule is pretty much a disaster. I am however off every other weekend but I work 3rd shift now so my sleep pattern is, well, a mess to understate it. And my boys are all in the teens now and very active and keep me busy. After losing my job as a park ranger life has gotten foggy at best. Feels like that movie Groundhogs Day somethimes. But lets get this done. Sooner than later. Have you been on the mad lately? I haven't fished it in a couple of years. I still say that the upper section is just ugly but it is where I always ended up. Trout waters are hard to come by here as you know. I was raised on the Stillwater River and it is by far my favorite local waters. So if its Bass or Rockies I'm after thats where I end up. I still have never made it over to the Brookville tailwaters. I have no good excuse for this. Just busy I guess. I had my own photography business for a while and that kept me pretty busy but when the economy tanked I had to give it up. I still do some side jobs here and there (I have a lady waiting on her pictures as I type this and should probably be working on that, but...) So you still retired? Last I heard you bought a bike and a travel rod was to be mounted. Sounds good to me. Sounds damn good. All my rods are 2 piece and I have yet to figure a good way to strap that to my bike. I will need to get a 4 piece rod one of these days. I have joked about mounting it straight up off the back and putiing an orange flag on the rod case like one of those bicycle flags. But I just can't do that. However funny, it just seems wrong. By the way, do you know if the Rusty Drake still around? I am absolutely game for getting together a doing a little fishing. The weather is quickly going to crap and the holidays are hectic but I am game. Last time I fished the Mad it was January, Snowing like crazy, I spent more time deicing my rod than fishing and I didn't catch a damn thing. It was still a great day. -Chad |
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Go on FB and search "ROFF" in the search bar.
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On Dec 5, 11:16*am, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:
Go on FB and search "ROFF" in the search bar. Frank Reid I rather like this place now -- just a few old timers gathered around a dying campfire. |
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On Dec 9, 10:45*pm, rw56 wrote:
On Dec 5, 11:16*am, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote: Go on FB and search "ROFF" in the search bar. Frank Reid I rather like this place now -- just a few old timers gathered around a dying campfire. WHO YOU CALLING OLD!!! Frank Reid |
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Frank Reid © 2010 typed:
On Dec 9, 10:45 pm, rw56 wrote: On Dec 5, 11:16 am, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote: Go on FB and search "ROFF" in the search bar. Frank Reid I rather like this place now -- just a few old timers gathered around a dying campfire. WHO YOU CALLING OLD!!! You remember 300 baud modems, floppy disks, and parallel ports, right? Need I say more? -- TL, Tim |
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Tim J. typed:
Frank Reid © 2010 typed: On Dec 9, 10:45 pm, rw56 wrote: On Dec 5, 11:16 am, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote: Go on FB and search "ROFF" in the search bar. Frank Reid I rather like this place now -- just a few old timers gathered around a dying campfire. WHO YOU CALLING OLD!!! You remember 300 baud modems, floppy disks, and parallel ports, right? Need I say more? Just thought of another. Last week, the 386SX AST PC we have been using since it was new for our phone ACD system gave out. I was the only one who was saddened. :( -- TL, Tim |
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On 12/10/2011 3:59 PM, Tim J. wrote: Frank Reid © typed: On Dec 9, 10:45 pm, wrote: On Dec 5, 11:16 am, Frank Reid © wrote: Go on FB and search "ROFF" in the search bar. Frank Reid I rather like this place now -- just a few old timers gathered around a dying campfire. WHO YOU CALLING OLD!!! You remember 300 baud modems, floppy disks, and parallel ports, right? Need I say more? 300 baud?? jeez, you guys are geezer geeks! jeff (Prodigy was my introduction to the internet...how "baudy" was that?) |
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jeff typed:
On 12/10/2011 3:59 PM, Tim J. wrote: Frank Reid © typed: On Dec 9, 10:45 pm, wrote: On Dec 5, 11:16 am, Frank Reid © wrote: Go on FB and search "ROFF" in the search bar. Frank Reid I rather like this place now -- just a few old timers gathered around a dying campfire. WHO YOU CALLING OLD!!! You remember 300 baud modems, floppy disks, and parallel ports, right? Need I say more? 300 baud?? jeez, you guys are geezer geeks! Yep. I don't know where ol' Stan has gone lately, but he has geezer geek stories that would curl your hair. -- TL, Tim |
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On 10/12/2011 1:59 PM, Tim J. wrote:
Frank Reid © typed: On Dec 9, 10:45 pm, wrote: On Dec 5, 11:16 am, Frank Reid © wrote: Go on FB and search "ROFF" in the search bar. Frank Reid I rather like this place now -- just a few old timers gathered around a dying campfire. WHO YOU CALLING OLD!!! You remember 300 baud modems, floppy disks, and parallel ports, right? Need I say more? I remember punch cards and card readers. As well as all of the above. Including cassette tape storage. Tim Lysyk |
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On Dec 10, 5:20*pm, Tim Lysyk wrote:
On 10/12/2011 1:59 PM, Tim J. wrote: Frank Reid © *typed: On Dec 9, 10:45 pm, *wrote: On Dec 5, 11:16 am, Frank Reid © *wrote: Go on FB and search "ROFF" in the search bar. Frank Reid I rather like this place now -- just a few old timers gathered around a dying campfire. WHO YOU CALLING OLD!!! You remember 300 baud modems, floppy disks, and parallel ports, right? Need I say more? I remember punch cards and card readers. As well as all of the above. Including cassette tape storage. Tim Lysyk I wrote Fortran programs on punch cards in 1965. We used the chaff for pranks -- throw a box of it in some nerd's closet and he'll never clean it up because of the static charge. Remember the chain-driven line printers? Remember ferrite-core RAM? Drum drives? Batch processing? Remember when CDC and Honeywell and Univac were big players? Time sharing? Dumb terminals? Remember DEC? Minicomputers? Paper tape? PDP-11? |
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On 2011-12-10 21:58:15 -0500, rw56 said:
On Dec 10, 5:20*pm, Tim Lysyk wrote: On 10/12/2011 1:59 PM, Tim J. wrote: Frank Reid © *typed: On Dec 9, 10:45 pm, *wrote: On Dec 5, 11:16 am, Frank Reid © *wrote : Go on FB and search "ROFF" in the search bar. Frank Reid I rather like this place now -- just a few old timers gathered around a dying campfire. WHO YOU CALLING OLD!!! You remember 300 baud modems, floppy disks, and parallel ports, right? Need I say more? I remember punch cards and card readers. As well as all of the above. Including cassette tape storage. Tim Lysyk I wrote Fortran programs on punch cards in 1965. We used the chaff for pranks -- throw a box of it in some nerd's closet and he'll never clean it up because of the static charge. Remember the chain-driven line printers? Remember ferrite-core RAM? Drum drives? Batch processing? Remember when CDC and Honeywell and Univac were big players? Time sharing? Dumb terminals? Remember DEC? Minicomputers? Paper tape? PDP-11? Remember when the workplace was lit by gaslights? |
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On Dec 11, 5:44*am, D. LaCourse wrote:
On 2011-12-10 21:58:15 -0500, rw56 said: On Dec 10, 5:20*pm, Tim Lysyk wrote: On 10/12/2011 1:59 PM, Tim J. wrote: Frank Reid © *typed: On Dec 9, 10:45 pm, *wrote: On Dec 5, 11:16 am, Frank Reid © *wrote : Go on FB and search "ROFF" in the search bar. Frank Reid I rather like this place now -- just a few old timers gathered around a dying campfire. WHO YOU CALLING OLD!!! You remember 300 baud modems, floppy disks, and parallel ports, right? Need I say more? I remember punch cards and card readers. As well as all of the above. Including cassette tape storage. Tim Lysyk I wrote Fortran programs on punch cards in 1965. We used the chaff for pranks -- throw a box of it in some nerd's closet and he'll never clean it up because of the static charge. Remember the chain-driven line printers? Remember ferrite-core RAM? Drum drives? Batch processing? Remember when CDC and Honeywell and Univac were big players? Time sharing? Dumb terminals? Remember DEC? Minicomputers? Paper tape? PDP-11? Remember when the workplace was lit by gaslights? No, but I remember negro peddlers driving horse-drawn carts in Baltimore, calling out various wares and services, from watermelons to knife sharpening. They were confined to the alleyways. And I remember separate white and colored watering fountains. |
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On Dec 11, 7:19*am, rw56 wrote:
On Dec 11, 5:44*am, D. LaCourse wrote: On 2011-12-10 21:58:15 -0500, rw56 said: On Dec 10, 5:20*pm, Tim Lysyk wrote: On 10/12/2011 1:59 PM, Tim J. wrote: Frank Reid © *typed: On Dec 9, 10:45 pm, *wrote: On Dec 5, 11:16 am, Frank Reid © *wrote : Go on FB and search "ROFF" in the search bar. Frank Reid I rather like this place now -- just a few old timers gathered around a dying campfire. WHO YOU CALLING OLD!!! You remember 300 baud modems, floppy disks, and parallel ports, right? Need I say more? I remember punch cards and card readers. As well as all of the above.. Including cassette tape storage. Tim Lysyk I wrote Fortran programs on punch cards in 1965. We used the chaff for pranks -- throw a box of it in some nerd's closet and he'll never clean it up because of the static charge. Remember the chain-driven line printers? Remember ferrite-core RAM? Drum drives? Batch processing? Remember when CDC and Honeywell and Univac were big players? Time sharing? Dumb terminals? Remember DEC? Minicomputers? Paper tape? PDP-11? Remember when the workplace was lit by gaslights? No, but I remember negro peddlers driving horse-drawn carts in Baltimore, calling out various wares and services, from watermelons to knife sharpening. They were confined to the alleyways. And I remember separate white and colored watering fountains.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I remember the fear of police and State Troopers in New Jersey, where shakedowns of civilian business people were unsurprising, beatings and "suicide in jail" periodic, bottles of whisky greased building inspections, and bets and numbers were conviently possible at most city parking lot attendent huts and corner "candy shops." I remember Troopers shaking down Black families at the side of US 130, with all their luggage spread out in the grass. I remember a Black friend in my HS geometry class who was beaten to death in the city jail. I also remember lots of good stuff, like the opportunities nite school or the military (Marines or Navy preferred) or a ticket West could mean. but I am VERY content that much of the bad old days are gone. Dave Snedeker |
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On Dec 10, 7:12*pm, "Tim J."
wrote: jeff typed: On 12/10/2011 3:59 PM, Tim J. wrote: Frank Reid © *typed: On Dec 9, 10:45 pm, *wrote: On Dec 5, 11:16 am, Frank Reid © *wrote: Go on FB and search "ROFF" in the search bar. Frank Reid I rather like this place now -- just a few old timers gathered around a dying campfire. WHO YOU CALLING OLD!!! You remember 300 baud modems, floppy disks, and parallel ports, right? Need I say more? 300 baud?? *jeez, you guys are geezer geeks! Yep. I don't know where ol' Stan has gone lately, but he has geezer geek stories that would curl your hair. -- TL, Tim Stan is still sometimes lurking. I'm so old my stories have forgotten me. |
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On Dec 14, 8:32*am, s g wrote:
On Dec 10, 7:12*pm, "Tim J." wrote: jeff typed: On 12/10/2011 3:59 PM, Tim J. wrote: Frank Reid © *typed: On Dec 9, 10:45 pm, *wrote: On Dec 5, 11:16 am, Frank Reid © *wrote: Go on FB and search "ROFF" in the search bar. Frank Reid I rather like this place now -- just a few old timers gathered around a dying campfire. WHO YOU CALLING OLD!!! You remember 300 baud modems, floppy disks, and parallel ports, right? Need I say more? 300 baud?? *jeez, you guys are geezer geeks! Yep. I don't know where ol' Stan has gone lately, but he has geezer geek stories that would curl your hair. -- TL, Tim Stan is still sometimes lurking. *I'm so old my stories have forgotten me. The groundhog has not forgotten. Frank Reid |
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On Dec 1, 10:59*pm, Chad wrote:
So I have been a little busy. Life, well... it's a kick in the ass at times. As for fishing and tying, not like I use to. But I still get out from time to time. I have not been here on ROFF in years. I return and what the hell? Where did everybody go? I faded away due to just not being able to keep up. Now, no fear of that. Did you all move to a forum or something? I use to post under the name Goat. Nothing lasts forever but I am a little shocked. ROFF was a flurry of activity at one time. Really guys, did everybody jump to a forum or is this ember just hardly glowing? Chad Hm.....where to begin? Well, things change.....some of them, anyway, sometimes. The moved to another forum thingy......that's what ya call yer basic bull****. A small number of the reliable thinking posters died. That happens. Others have given up for a variety of reasons, none of which redound to their great credit. A few remain but seldom stick up their heads. A substantial number of the reliable morons still lurk reliably and ocassionaly sally forth to garner yet another well-deserved drubbing.....knowing full well what is in store for them, but incapable of exercising anything resembling restraint. We like them. A few.....very few.....of the latter no longer read these pages. This is evident by virtue of the fact that they NEVER post proof to the contrary. The bulk of the remainder of readers are just plain tired of the run of the mill ****wits.....but are afraid to tell them so. A precious few go about their business here, as always. We adore them. giles who will gladly address.....personally.....anyone who feels that he or she has been left out. |
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On Dec 19, 4:06*pm, Giles wrote:
On Dec 1, 10:59*pm, Chad wrote: So I have been a little busy. Life, well... it's a kick in the ass at times. As for fishing and tying, not like I use to. But I still get out from time to time. I have not been here on ROFF in years. I return and what the hell? Where did everybody go? I faded away due to just not being able to keep up. Now, no fear of that. Did you all move to a forum or something? I use to post under the name Goat. Nothing lasts forever but I am a little shocked. ROFF was a flurry of activity at one time. Really guys, did everybody jump to a forum or is this ember just hardly glowing? Chad Hm.....where to begin? Well, things change.....some of them, anyway, sometimes. The moved to another forum thingy......that's what ya call yer basic bull****. A small number of the reliable thinking posters died. *That happens. Others have given up for a variety of reasons, none of which redound to their great credit. *A few remain but seldom stick up their heads. A substantial number of the reliable morons still lurk reliably and ocassionaly sally forth to garner yet another well-deserved drubbing.....knowing full well what is in store for them, but incapable of exercising anything resembling restraint. *We like them. A few.....very few.....of the latter no longer read these pages. *This is evident by virtue of the fact that they NEVER post proof to the contrary. The bulk of the remainder of readers are just plain tired of the run of the mill ****wits.....but are afraid to tell them so. A precious few go about their business here, as always. *We adore them. giles who will gladly address.....personally.....anyone who feels that he or she has been left out. Um..... Or maybe literacy really is moribund. giles well under 140.....this time. |
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On 12/19/2011 03:30 PM, Giles wrote:
giles well under 140.....this time. That's rare. ;-) |
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On Dec 20, 10:54*am, "Russell D." wrote:
On 12/19/2011 03:30 PM, Giles wrote: giles well under 140.....this time. That's rare. ;-) And rare = precious. No, don't thank me.....it's not so much my bequest to mankind as a modest demonstration that we ALL have something to offer.....whether or not the scum deserve it. giles who, having grown up more or less german, has a precious insight into the term "gift". |
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On Dec 20, 3:53*pm, Giles wrote:
On Dec 20, 10:54*am, "Russell D." wrote: On 12/19/2011 03:30 PM, Giles wrote: giles well under 140.....this time. That's rare. ;-) And rare = precious. No, don't thank me.....it's not so much my bequest to mankind as a modest demonstration that we ALL have something to offer.....whether or not the scum deserve it. giles who, having grown up more or less german, has a precious insight into the term "gift". If I see something under the tree marked "Gift aus Wolfgang," I'll call HAZMAT. Frank Reid |
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On Dec 16, 8:21*am, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:
On Dec 14, 8:32*am, s g wrote: On Dec 10, 7:12*pm, "Tim J." wrote: jeff typed: On 12/10/2011 3:59 PM, Tim J. wrote: Frank Reid © *typed: On Dec 9, 10:45 pm, *wrote: On Dec 5, 11:16 am, Frank Reid © *wrote: Go on FB and search "ROFF" in the search bar. Frank Reid I rather like this place now -- just a few old timers gathered around a dying campfire. WHO YOU CALLING OLD!!! You remember 300 baud modems, floppy disks, and parallel ports, right? Need I say more? 300 baud?? *jeez, you guys are geezer geeks! Yep. I don't know where ol' Stan has gone lately, but he has geezer geek stories that would curl your hair. -- TL, Tim Stan is still sometimes lurking. *I'm so old my stories have forgotten me. The groundhog has not forgotten. Frank Reid I miss our groundhog buddy. I may go to Penns Creek this year just to drive over that wrong pass. |
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On Dec 22, 2:56*pm, s g wrote:
On Dec 16, 8:21*am, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote: On Dec 14, 8:32*am, s g wrote: On Dec 10, 7:12*pm, "Tim J." wrote: jeff typed: On 12/10/2011 3:59 PM, Tim J. wrote: Frank Reid © *typed: On Dec 9, 10:45 pm, *wrote: On Dec 5, 11:16 am, Frank Reid © *wrote: Go on FB and search "ROFF" in the search bar. Frank Reid I rather like this place now -- just a few old timers gathered around a dying campfire. WHO YOU CALLING OLD!!! You remember 300 baud modems, floppy disks, and parallel ports, right? Need I say more? 300 baud?? *jeez, you guys are geezer geeks! Yep. I don't know where ol' Stan has gone lately, but he has geezer geek stories that would curl your hair. -- TL, Tim Stan is still sometimes lurking. *I'm so old my stories have forgotten me. The groundhog has not forgotten. Frank Reid I miss our groundhog buddy. *I may go to Penns Creek this year just to drive over that wrong pass. Yeah, that was like Lampoons "European Vacation." "Look kids, Big Ben!" Frank Reid |
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