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In the spirit of if you can't beat 'em, join 'em, I'm playing with the
notion of getting a fishing yak -- maybe a Pungo or something similar. Question for the yak experts. Given that I am of advanced middle age with a significant pot and limited shoulder stremgth, is paddling upstream against weak to moderate currents feasible? I doubt I'll have a shuttle service available to me so it would seem like an idea to paddle upstream (walking it through fast water) and then do the drift back. The Saugeen, upstream of Denny's Dam, has very limited access and wonderful stretches of water with little or no angling pressure (the Pirate can attest to the latter). I could put in at one of the few access points, paddle and fish up, then paddle and drift back. It would seem to beat the canoe alternative. Peter |
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Peter Charles wrote:
... It would seem to beat the canoe alternative. Why ? I mean for people of close to average proportions who can walk and chew gum at the same time, why does a sit-on-top kayak beat a solo canoe ? -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 19:52:32 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: Peter Charles wrote: ... It would seem to beat the canoe alternative. Why ? I mean for people of close to average proportions who can walk and chew gum at the same time, why does a sit-on-top kayak beat a solo canoe ? A Pungo isn't a SOT, but it also beats a canoe - lighter, easier to paddle, more maneuverable, ... etc. A SOT has the additional advantage of being easier to get in/out of on the water. I don't have a Pungo, but I have had a couple of canoes. -- Charlie... |
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In article , Charlie Choc
wrote: On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 19:52:32 GMT, Ken Fortenberry wrote: Peter Charles wrote: ... It would seem to beat the canoe alternative. Why ? I mean for people of close to average proportions who can walk and chew gum at the same time, why does a sit-on-top kayak beat a solo canoe ? A Pungo isn't a SOT, but it also beats a canoe - lighter, easier to paddle, more maneuverable, ... etc. A SOT has the additional advantage of being easier to get in/out of on the water. I don't have a Pungo, but I have had a couple of canoes. I do have a Pungo. While it's certainly not the lightest yak around it's roomy but not so wide it's hard to paddle. It tracks well and seems to has enough heft and keel to keep it from blowing all over the place by the wind wind when sitting, which is my main reason for liking a kayak over a solo canoe (although I'd like to have both!) I've taken a spring clip, attached a pully and clipped that to either the bow or stern loop and run a line from the cockpit to a small anchor. This easily allows me remove the anchor for days I'm just paddling, clip it to the stern for anchoring in moving water or to the bow which works better in still water. Allen Catonsville, MD |
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Ken Fortenberry wrote in message . com...
Peter Charles wrote: ... It would seem to beat the canoe alternative. Why ? I mean for people of close to average proportions who can walk and chew gum at the same time, why does a sit-on-top kayak beat a solo canoe ? Getting in and out, control, ease of beaching, weathercocking, ease of putting on top of car, won't swamp. I'm neither an expert at canoes or yaks but given my physical limitations, a yak seems better. I'm prepared to be proven wrong. |
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Peter Charles wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote: Peter Charles wrote: ... It would seem to beat the canoe alternative. Why ? I mean for people of close to average proportions who can walk and chew gum at the same time, why does a sit-on-top kayak beat a solo canoe ? Getting in and out, control, ease of beaching, weathercocking, ease of putting on top of car, won't swamp. I'm neither an expert at canoes or yaks but given my physical limitations, a yak seems better. I'm prepared to be proven wrong. Charlie gives good advice when he says to paddle both, and you're the only judge of which is better for you, but I don't believe one word of anything I've read in this thread regarding the supposed superiority of kayaks over a good quality solo canoe. Compare the Pungo (48-53 lbs.) http://www.wildernesssystems.com/kay...creational.php with the Wenonah Vagabond (24-42 lbs.) and Sandpiper (22-39 lbs.) http://www.oakorchardcanoe.com/vagabond.htm http://www.oakorchardcanoe.com/sandpiperwenonah.htm Good shopping and happy paddling ! -- Ken Fortenberry |
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"Peter Charles" wrote in message om... Ken Fortenberry wrote in message . com... Peter Charles wrote: ... It would seem to beat the canoe alternative. Why ? I mean for people of close to average proportions who can walk and chew gum at the same time, why does a sit-on-top kayak beat a solo canoe ? Getting in and out, control, ease of beaching, weathercocking, ease of putting on top of car, won't swamp. I'm neither an expert at canoes or yaks but given my physical limitations, a yak seems better. I'm prepared to be proven wrong. Let me try, Peter, and repay you for your gentle introduction to roff a few years ago. First, note that kayaks have decks, and sprayskirts to keep the water out of your lap. This applies to high-volume touring boats as well as smaller playboats, which is not what you are interested in. This gives you an 'inside' for your gear, but it is not quickly accessible, or conducive for a long rod. SOTs, OTOH, are like sitting on a surfboard, so there is no 'inside' for your gear: it sits on top with you. That makes it easy to get at, but also easy to fall out or for stuff to fall overboard. Kayaks turn over pretty easily, and beginners always swim when they do. This goes for SOTs also, so expect to lose some fishing gear when that happens. Kayaks are inherenly less stable than canoes, ride lower in the water so they swamp easier if you don't have the skirt on, are harder to steer straight, and get very antsy in moving water. Working the blade can be a bit uninstinctual, especially if you are panicking. You also sit closer to the surface, have no place to put your paddle when you are casting (and having it drift off is a bad thing), they are quite hard to get in and out of when you are on a steep shore, and you cannot take a **** out of them easily. Canoes, OTOH, are very stable, do not tip over easily (at least, as easily as a yak), you can stand to cast if you want, have a spacious 'inside' for your gear, including a fully-rigged rod, beach easily, can be turned over for a table, and you can take a friend. You can put your paddle and gear in it quickly and easily, can carry lunch, your gear won't wash overboard if you drop it, and you can even carry extra rods easily. The only real advantage to a yak is the weight for putting it on the roof of your car. However, some canoes (kevlar ones) are incredibly lightweight, although they are incredibly expensive, and there are many tricks for loading any canoe on a roof. Your best bet is to try each one a few times. I could not imagine trying to fish out of a yak, nor could I imagine any portable boat more appropriate and versatile than a canoe. --riverman |
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 00:23:34 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: but I don't believe one word of anything I've read in this thread regarding the supposed superiority of kayaks over a good quality solo canoe. Ever paddled a kayak (SOT or not)? -- Charlie... |
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Charlie Choc wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote: but I don't believe one word of anything I've read in this thread regarding the supposed superiority of kayaks over a good quality solo canoe. Ever paddled a kayak (SOT or not)? Yes. I've paddled a Current Designs something or other and a sit-on-top whose provenance I don't remember. Perhaps I'd get used to it in time, but I don't like the way you sit in a kayak and I can't for the life of me figure out why you think getting into and out of a kayak is EASIER than getting into and out of a canoe. Most emphatically the exact opposite for me. I feel like I'm WEARING a kayak as opposed to paddling it, which is a good thing I suppose if you want to squirt around in white water, but that's not my thing. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 00:48:08 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: and I can't for the life of me figure out why you think getting into and out of a kayak is EASIER than getting into and out of a canoe. Paddle out in 10' of water in your canoe, put on your snorkel and fins and go snorkeling. Then get back in and paddle back. Then try in with a SOT. Just one example. -- Charlie... |
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"Charlie Choc" wrote in message
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 00:48:08 GMT, Ken Fortenberry and I can't for the life of me figure out why you think getting into and out of a kayak is EASIER than getting into and out of a canoe. Paddle out in 10' of water in your canoe, put on your snorkel and fins and go snorkeling. Then get back in and paddle back. Then try in with a SOT. Just one example. Thanks I suppose to the Boy Scout camp of my youth, I can exit & reboard a canoe with reasonable efficiency (and I have the merit badge to prove it g); but I gotta admit, it isn't a piece o' cake. Joe F. |
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 01:24:54 GMT, "rb608"
wrote: Thanks I suppose to the Boy Scout camp of my youth, I can exit & reboard a canoe with reasonable efficiency (and I have the merit badge to prove it g); but I gotta admit, it isn't a piece o' cake. I used to be able to do that too, but doubt I could today. With my Ride SOT it *is* a piece of cake, though. Not saying that this is a requirement Peter would have for his fishing boat. -- Charlie... |
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Cannoes are just another way to take a bath, alway carry some soap and a
towel ( in a plastic bag) -never miss the opportunity for a bath. Canoes are inherently unstable if you need more proof heres some heavy physics for you. http://ntl.bts.gov/DOCS/narmain/naintro.html In a canoe you cg is to high and the angle phee in the diagram goe into the runaway mode damm quick. If you want historical references goggle up the Vasa, the Mary Rose, Crab boats in Alaska or numerous 3 rd world ferry capsizing tragedys. "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message om... Peter Charles wrote: ... It would seem to beat the canoe alternative. Why ? I mean for people of close to average proportions who can walk and chew gum at the same time, why does a sit-on-top kayak beat a solo canoe ? -- Ken Fortenberry |
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"B J Conner" wrote in message In a canoe you cg is to high and the angle phee in the diagram goe into the runaway mode damm quick. Stop, stop; you're killin' me. :-) Joe F. |
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 02:58:38 GMT, "rb608"
wrote: "B J Conner" wrote in message In a canoe you cg is to high and the angle phee in the diagram goe into the runaway mode damm quick. Stop, stop; you're killin' me. :-) "Just when I think you've said the stupidest thing ever, you keep talking" /daytripper (Hank Hill, used without permission. Eff 'im ;-) |
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B J Conner top posted the following:
... In a canoe you cg is to high and the angle phee in the diagram goe into the runaway mode damm quick. ... Do you even bother to read the inane, incomprehensible and unintelligible gibberish you post here ? No, I didn't think so. So why should anyone else ? -- Ken Fortenberry- there ain't enough cluebats in the world for THIS moron |
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 00:23:34 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: Charlie gives good advice when he says to paddle both, and you're the only judge of which is better for you, but I don't believe one word of anything I've read in this thread regarding the supposed superiority In general, kayaks paddle more easily than canoes. I've had both. Due to lack of storage space all I have now are two hardshell 'yaks and a couple of inflatables. Kayaks also give a more intimate experience with the water and, once accustomed to the tippy _feeling_, they are more stable. However, they are a PITA to get in and out of. My whitewater 'yak (now used only for flat water), being more difficult than I want to bother with unless I lose 15 to 20 pounds and / or get a lot more flexible.... But a long time canoe buddy has found kayaks and has a recreational one that has a nice wide and long cockpit.that's even better than my Old Town Otter for exit and entry. And a kayak can get me into places where a canoe would be grounded or be too long to zig and zag through downed trees. My very flat bottomed whitewater one will practically float on heavy dew. -- rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing. Often taunted by trout. Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it. http://www.visi.com/~cyli |
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"Ken Fortenberry" I don't like the way you sit in a kayak and I can't for the life of me figure out why you think getting into and out of a kayak is EASIER than getting into and out of a canoe. I just plop my legs out like I'm sitting on a horse and stand up (depth providing) and the yak floats off (secured by line to my belt) john |
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"Peter Charles" .. Given that I am of advanced middle age with a significant pot and limited shoulder stremgth, is paddling upstream against weak to moderate currents feasible? I drop a bicycle at one bridge and lock it up. Drive upstream to the next bridge and get in-float down-unlock bike-lock yak-peddle up-get truck-drive down-get yak.....it's not as complicated as it sounds.... john |
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i also fish out of a walden scout quite a bit and love it
to me it certainly paddles far, far easier than my old town discovery 133k canoe, and is more stable for casting, easier to sneak closer to fish and gets blown around far less than the canoe this is a true kayak that has been set up with FF in mind; the old town predator is another yak worth looking at i also duck hunt out of mine pretty extensively, often times forgoing a blind and hunting straight out of the boat....shooting takes some getting used to, but ive literally had birds drop on top of me while setting decoys, let alone after i've pulled into the marsh grass and hidden.... to me it's a no-brainer.....kayak over canoe for solo trips far and away |
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 01:24:33 +0100, "riverman"
wrote: Kayaks turn over pretty easily, and beginners always swim when they do. This goes for SOTs also, so expect to lose some fishing gear when that happens. Depends on the boat. I'm not sure I *could* tip my SOT over in the water. It's much more stable than any canoe I've been in. -- Charlie... |
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 14:29:35 GMT, (Greg Pavlov)
wrote: On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 00:23:34 GMT, Ken Fortenberry wrote: http://www.oakorchardcanoe.com/vagabond.htm http://www.oakorchardcanoe.com/sandpiperwenonah.htm Hey Peter, this place is a mile or so above the dam above Oak Orchard Creek near Lake Alice (dam lake). It's a pretty big outfit with several hundred canoes and yaks in stock. They have a pond out front where you can try them out at $5 a pop. They also have a stock of rentals; they'll drive you upstream a few miles above the lake and drop you off so you can float/paddle back. Pick the right time and you can fish along the way :-) If you want to head out there sometime, let me know: I'm planning a return trip sometime this spring. An excellent plan! Though I think I might wait until the water temperatures are high enough for me to tolerate when I fall in. On reconsideration, I think I will got for a SOT, if I buy a yak. Wilderness Systems has a RIDE Angler SOT that looks kinda neat. Peter turn mailhot into hotmail to reply Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharl...ers/index.html |
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 14:27:15 -0500, Peter Charles
wrote: On reconsideration, I think I will got for a SOT, if I buy a yak. Wilderness Systems has a RIDE Angler SOT that looks kinda neat. I have two Rides, and they are great boats. I'd recommend getting the regular version and rigging it yourself, though. The angler version is set up for spin fishing. Scotty makes fly rod holders that you can mount and a float tube anchor will hold it in a mild current. I put some nylon eyelets on mine to run the anchor rope through and a small jam cleat to hold the rope. Wilderness Systems also has a model called the Tarpon in three different sizes that looks nice too. -- Charlie... |
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riverman wrote:
... The only real advantage to a yak is the weight ... Your best bet is to try each one a few times. I could not imagine trying to fish out of a yak, nor could I imagine any portable boat more appropriate and versatile than a canoe. Even in Royalex a good quality solo canoe won't outweigh a kayak by enough to make an appreciable difference. I think the problem most folks have with canoes is that they're not familiar with modern layups and materials. Today's good quality canoes are not the fiberglas crap you paddled at scout camp or the plastic Old Town Discovery of yesteryear, the best of them are simple, elegant, stable, lightweight, well-designed watercraft and I could not imagine paddling (or flippering ;-) anything else. -- Ken Fortenberry- unless I wanted to snorkel ;-) |
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 20:46:17 GMT, (Greg Pavlov)
wrote: On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 14:27:15 -0500, Peter Charles wrote: An excellent plan! Though I think I might wait until the water temperatures are high enough for me to tolerate when I fall in. I guess that it will be bass, then. On reconsideration, I think I will got for a SOT, if I buy a yak. Wilderness Systems has a RIDE Angler SOT that looks kinda neat. It's considered to be one of the more stable because it's a narrow catamaran, basically. But there are about 20 or so decent ones out there for fishing now. If anyone wants an Excel table that lists a bunch and includes a few basic specs, let me know at the above email. It's a pretty complete list of SOT's that are considered to be suited for fishing AND that have a manuf-rated payload of at least 300 lbs. sign me up - especially for the 300 pounders -- at the rate I'm going .. . . . . :) Peter turn mailhot into hotmail to reply Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharl...ers/index.html |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message om... I think the problem most folks have with canoes is that they're not familiar with modern layups and materials. Today's good quality canoes are not the fiberglas crap you paddled at scout camp or the plastic Old Town Discovery of yesteryear, the best of them are simple, elegant, stable, lightweight, well-designed watercraft and I could not imagine paddling (or flippering ;-) anything else. Yep, you and me both. I think I was born to be like a griffin, except my lower half is a canoe. I forgot to mention in the original post; you can also 'cheat' by using a kayak paddle in a canoe to make your strokes more efficient, especially upwind or upstream. No self-respecting solo boater would ever be seen doing this, but newbies and recreational floaters are forgiven the faux-pas. --riverman |
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 01:24:33 +0100, "riverman"
wrote: Let me try, Peter, and repay you for your gentle introduction to roff a few years ago. First, note that kayaks have decks, and sprayskirts to keep the water out of your lap. This applies to high-volume touring boats as well as smaller playboats, which is not what you are interested in. This gives you an 'inside' for your gear, but it is not quickly accessible, or conducive for a long rod. SOTs, OTOH, are like sitting on a surfboard, so there is no 'inside' for your gear: it sits on top with you. That makes it easy to get at, but also easy to fall out or for stuff to fall overboard. Kayaks turn over pretty easily, and beginners always swim when they do. This goes for SOTs also, so expect to lose some fishing gear when that happens. Kayaks are inherenly less stable than canoes, ride lower in the water so they swamp easier if you don't have the skirt on, are harder to steer straight, and get very antsy in moving water. Working the blade can be a bit uninstinctual, especially if you are panicking. You also sit closer to the surface, have no place to put your paddle when you are casting (and having it drift off is a bad thing), they are quite hard to get in and out of when you are on a steep shore, and you cannot take a **** out of them easily. Canoes, OTOH, are very stable, do not tip over easily (at least, as easily as a yak), you can stand to cast if you want, have a spacious 'inside' for your gear, including a fully-rigged rod, beach easily, can be turned over for a table, and you can take a friend. You can put your paddle and gear in it quickly and easily, can carry lunch, your gear won't wash overboard if you drop it, and you can even carry extra rods easily. The only real advantage to a yak is the weight for putting it on the roof of your car. However, some canoes (kevlar ones) are incredibly lightweight, although they are incredibly expensive, and there are many tricks for loading any canoe on a roof. Your best bet is to try each one a few times. I could not imagine trying to fish out of a yak, nor could I imagine any portable boat more appropriate and versatile than a canoe. --riverman Thanks for all of the info (though I don't remember what I did to deserve it. :) ) I haven't made up my mind by a long shot. I've noticed that even some of the cheaper canoes on these links are lighter than the yaks (Royalex Vagabond at 42 lbs. vs. a RIDE SOT at 58 lbs.) The SOT or one of the small canoes would probably be the choice - whatever works for me. The prices are about the same. We'll see what happens when Greg takes me for my dunkin'. :) Peter turn mailhot into hotmail to reply Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharl...ers/index.html |
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@4ax.com... On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 01:24:33 +0100, "riverman" wrote: Kayaks turn over pretty easily, and beginners always swim when they do. This goes for SOTs also, so expect to lose some fishing gear when that happens. Depends on the boat. I'm not sure I *could* tip my SOT over in the water. It's much more stable than any canoe I've been in. -- Charlie... IJ adds --again i agree with the man from Ga. I have a Old TownLoon 138 recreational kayak--sit inside with good back rest [better than canoe]--would be hard pressed to turn it over [have swamped several noes] --covered area for some gear---paddle holder - rod holder---a little heavy for overhead lifting - 54lbs--[but this old indian don't need to throw it overhead--just carry on hip] |
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In article ,
says... I forgot to mention in the original post; you can also 'cheat' by using a kayak paddle in a canoe to make your strokes more efficient, especially upwind or upstream. No self-respecting solo boater would ever be seen doing this, but newbies and recreational floaters are forgiven the faux-pas. Au contraire - you are talking about a double-paddle canoe. It looks like a small canoe, open on top, except you sit on the bottom like a kayak and use a double bladed paddle. You can probably google up a lot of hits, but here a few pages with pictures of double-paddle canoes: http://www.laughingloon.com/wv.wt.html http://www.laughingloon.com/wee.robbie.html http://lostinthewoods.ca/lapstrake.html Kevin |
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"Peter Charles" wrote in message ... On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 01:24:33 +0100, "riverman" wrote: Let me try, Peter, and repay you for your gentle introduction to roff a few years ago. Thanks for all of the info (though I don't remember what I did to deserve it. :) ) Let me refresh your memory, then. http://makeashorterlink.com/?T2E612D97 and go to the top of the thread. --riverman |
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 22:15:09 +0100, "riverman"
wrote: "Peter Charles" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 01:24:33 +0100, "riverman" wrote: Let me try, Peter, and repay you for your gentle introduction to roff a few years ago. Thanks for all of the info (though I don't remember what I did to deserve it. :) ) Let me refresh your memory, then. http://makeashorterlink.com/?T2E612D97 and go to the top of the thread. --riverman ahh yes, I think it was the last line that was the clincher. :) ta Peter turn mailhot into hotmail to reply Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharl...ers/index.html |
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"Joe McIntosh" wrote in message IJ adds --again i agree with the man from Ga. I have a Old TownLoon 138 recreational kayak--sit inside with good back rest [better than canoe]--would be hard pressed to turn it over [have swamped several noes] I'll second the stability of the Loon 138. On my last trip to Maine, the local shop was renting those things out to *anybody*, without even a question about experience or ability. In the course of a couple days, at least a half dozen newbies ranging in age from 10 to 50 paddled 'em around the lake with nary a swim. They were so stable, in fact, I began seriously to think about looking for a boat *less* stable to gain an edge in performance. Joe F. |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message I think the problem most folks have with canoes is that they're not familiar with modern layups and materials. Today's good quality canoes are not the fiberglas crap you paddled at scout camp or the plastic Old Town Discovery of yesteryear, the best of them are simple, elegant, stable, lightweight, well-designed watercraft and I could not imagine paddling (or flippering ;-) anything else. Hey, don't be dissin' my Old Town Discovery. g I will add an endorsement for the canoe side here. In my aforementioned excursion with kayaks, we had occasion to make about a one mile trip across the lake. My son & brother in law took the two kayaks, while I paddled the Discovery 174 with three passengers. We weren't racing; but I got across first without really pushing hard. With that much weight in it, the 17-footer tracked like it was on rails. Joe F. |
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Peter,
I sent to Mokai for their video. Got a dvd today. I am sold on the damn thing. The video shows it in some pretty rough water and it looks very stable. With things like they are concerning the Rapid, I don't know whether to buy it or not. Have to check with the Chief of Naval Ops, I guess. It could easily climb through the Currents into Wing Dam, and upstream through Chubs, probably all the way to the dam. Sure would open Chubs Pool which I have never really fished heavily, and trips to The Spawning Beds could be accomplished very quickly (15 mph) with the 6 hp 4 stroke water jet engine. No rudder to worry about either. Could we use in in Ontario? Dave http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html |
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On 04 Mar 2004 22:04:08 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse)
wrote: Peter, I sent to Mokai for their video. Got a dvd today. I am sold on the damn thing. The video shows it in some pretty rough water and it looks very stable. With things like they are concerning the Rapid, I don't know whether to buy it or not. Have to check with the Chief of Naval Ops, I guess. It could easily climb through the Currents into Wing Dam, and upstream through Chubs, probably all the way to the dam. Sure would open Chubs Pool which I have never really fished heavily, and trips to The Spawning Beds could be accomplished very quickly (15 mph) with the 6 hp 4 stroke water jet engine. No rudder to worry about either. Could we use in in Ontario? Dave http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html Depends on the river, on the Saugeen, so far, yes. But that could change. Peter turn mailhot into hotmail to reply Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharl...ers/index.html |
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Dave LaCourse wrote:
I sent to Mokai for their video. Got a dvd today. I am sold on the damn thing. The video shows it in some pretty rough water and it looks very stable. With things like they are concerning the Rapid, I don't know whether to buy it or not. Have to check with the Chief of Naval Ops, I guess. It could easily climb through the Currents into Wing Dam, and upstream through Chubs, probably all the way to the dam. Sure would open Chubs Pool which I have never really fished heavily, and trips to The Spawning Beds could be accomplished very quickly (15 mph) with the 6 hp 4 stroke water jet engine. No rudder to worry about either. ... You get up in arms when "corporate executives" want to build a condo in the area but you don't have a problem with buzzing up and down your favorite trout stream in a goddamn $3000 peewee jet ski ? Remember this picture ? http://www.flyrodreel.com/conservation112k.html -- Ken Fortenberry |
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Dave LaCourse wrote:
... You really have to get away from the puter, Ken, and go fish. I'll be at the Rapid any time you're willing, with or without a boat. I agree with the get away and go fish sentiment, I was hoping to get to Wisconsin this weekend, but in one of those unfortunate fortunate things that happen to freelancers I got an assignment and its deadline is approaching at warp speed. I'm thinking now to spend some time between assignments in the Bryson City area, right around the time you guys are at Penn's. Thanks for the offer on the Rapid, I may take you up on that one of these years. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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