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LIGONIER TOWNSHIP, Pa. -- Vice President Dick Cheney is being criticized
for shooting duck and pheasant Monday at the Rolling Rock Club in Ligonier, Westmoreland County, Team 4's Jim Parsons reported. Mark Bolish, an employee of the exclusive private club, told Channel 4 Action News that Cheney shot about 70 stocked pheasants and mallards that were released for a group of hunters. More than 400 of the farm-raised birds were killed in all. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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rw wrote:
LIGONIER TOWNSHIP, Pa. -- Vice President Dick Cheney is being criticized for shooting duck and pheasant Monday at the Rolling Rock Club in Ligonier, Westmoreland County, Team 4's Jim Parsons reported. Mark Bolish, an employee of the exclusive private club, told Channel 4 Action News that Cheney shot about 70 stocked pheasants and mallards that were released for a group of hunters. More than 400 of the farm-raised birds were killed in all. OK, I'm replying to my own post. **** me. Isn't anyone taking the bait? Is shooting 70 farm-raised pheasants and ducks in one day sportsmanlike? Is it hunting? Isn't it more like target practice? This represents the attitude of easy entitlement that so disgusts me about people like Cheney. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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rw notes:
sn't anyone taking the bait? Is shooting 70 farm-raised pheasants and ducks in one day sportsmanlike? hardly Is it hunting? Isn't it more like target practice? sort of This represents the attitude of easy entitlement that so disgusts me about people like Cheney. I guess I am far more disgusted about other aspects of Cheney, et al. Personally, I would be a content soul if he spent all his time from next January on duck hunting in whatever fashion he chooses. Tom |
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"rw" wrote in message . .. rw wrote: LIGONIER TOWNSHIP, Pa. -- Vice President Dick Cheney is being criticized for shooting duck and pheasant Monday at the Rolling Rock Club in Ligonier, Westmoreland County, Team 4's Jim Parsons reported. Mark Bolish, an employee of the exclusive private club, told Channel 4 Action News that Cheney shot about 70 stocked pheasants and mallards that were released for a group of hunters. More than 400 of the farm-raised birds were killed in all. OK, I'm replying to my own post. **** me. Isn't anyone taking the bait? Is shooting 70 farm-raised pheasants and ducks in one day sportsmanlike? Is it hunting? Isn't it more like target practice? This represents the attitude of easy entitlement that so disgusts me about people like Cheney. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. my visceral response-no, it isn't sportsman-like. it's ****ed up! my intellectual response- is it really much different from fishing in stocked ponds, and raising animals for the sole purpose of slaughtering them for human consumption? Snakefiddler-no, i'm not a vegetarian ...... Snake |
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"rw" schrieb im Newsbeitrag . .. You never caught a stock rainbow, which was specifically planted for the purpose of being caught? Fished on the redds? Judge not, lest you be judged. What politicians do with their free time, whether having blowjobs or shooting sitting ducks, is infinitely more preferable to what some of them do at work. TL MC |
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On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 16:46:06 -0700, rw
wrote: rw wrote: LIGONIER TOWNSHIP, Pa. -- Vice President Dick Cheney is being criticized for shooting duck and pheasant Monday at the Rolling Rock Club in Ligonier, Westmoreland County, Team 4's Jim Parsons reported. Mark Bolish, an employee of the exclusive private club, told Channel 4 Action News that Cheney shot about 70 stocked pheasants and mallards that were released for a group of hunters. More than 400 of the farm-raised birds were killed in all. OK, I'm replying to my own post. **** me. Isn't anyone taking the bait? Is shooting 70 farm-raised pheasants and ducks in one day sportsmanlike? Is it hunting? Isn't it more like target practice? This represents the attitude of easy entitlement that so disgusts me about people like Cheney. Its a very common form of "hunting" pheasants where they don't propagate well naturally. Here in northern Wisconsin they haven't done well in the wild but there are several places near me where that type of shooting goes on. You pay by the bird whether you end up killing them or not. So his party put down a lot of cash to shoot all those birds. Is it hunting...no, not in my opinion. I consider it little more than target practice wherein the targets get eaten, hopefully. Like its been said, there are alot more reasons to dislike Cheney than this little excursion. Of course, this may be indicative of why he is a poor choice for an ally even if he does fly fish for trout. People in his economic bracket will always have access to game and fish, so why should he care about public game and fish and the woods and waters they inhabit. g.c. |
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"Mike Connor" wrote in message ... "rw" schrieb im Newsbeitrag . .. You never caught a stock rainbow, which was specifically planted for the purpose of being caught? Fished on the redds? Judge not, lest you be judged. What politicians do with their free time, whether having blowjobs or shooting sitting ducks, is infinitely more preferable to what some of them do at work. TL MC certainly one of the most profound posts ever to appear herein. yfitons wayno |
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"Wayne Harrison" wrote in
. com: "Mike Connor" noted in message ... What politicians do with their free time, whether having blowjobs or shooting sitting ducks, is infinitely more preferable to what some of them do at work. TL MC certainly one of the most profound posts ever to appear herein. yfitons wayno Agreed. Steve |
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"rw" wrote in message . .. rw wrote: LIGONIER TOWNSHIP, Pa. -- Vice President Dick Cheney is being criticized for shooting duck and pheasant Monday at the Rolling Rock Club in Ligonier, Westmoreland County, Team 4's Jim Parsons reported. Mark Bolish, an employee of the exclusive private club, told Channel 4 Action News that Cheney shot about 70 stocked pheasants and mallards that were released for a group of hunters. More than 400 of the farm-raised birds were killed in all. OK, I'm replying to my own post. **** me. Isn't anyone taking the bait? Is shooting 70 farm-raised pheasants and ducks in one day sportsmanlike? Is it hunting? Isn't it more like target practice? This represents the attitude of easy entitlement that so disgusts me about people like Cheney. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. It gives you a view of the future as the Neocons envision utopia. They have won the class war they started. They have sold off the most of the national forest. The areas with the best trout streams have gone to the super rich and the rest have been clear cut, stripe mined and cyanide leached. The Clarke fork, Madison, Gallatin etc. are all private property. Quality fishing if is available to you only on a fee basis similar to the English system and off limits to 95% of the people. The rest of us are bombarded with magazine articles on fly-fishing for carp, in which we are continually remineded how great it is. |
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rw wrote in message ...
Action News that Cheney shot about 70 stocked pheasants and mallards Isn't anyone taking the bait? Man, you didn't even wait half a day! It must be snowing or something up there. Down here, I was riding through our mini-Grand Canyon all day. Well, that's a slight exaggeration, but it was a great day, probably 65 and sunny. Is shooting 70 farm-raised pheasants and ducks in one day sportsmanlike? Probably not. But is catching 50 trout in a one day sportsmanlike? (OBROFF) Someone I know (closely) has been on a stocked pheasant hunt back east. But in their hunt, the birds were released the previous day, and they hunted them up with dogs. More like stocker trout fishing. It sounds like Cheney and gang just sat there and sipped tea as the field hands released birds to fly over them. I wouldn't care to partake in that. I always wanted to go pheasant hunting, though. Maybe Vang will host something someday :-) When I was about ten I pulled up on what I thought was a grouse (we were grouse hunting after all) but it didn't look right and finally I realized it was a hen pheasant. First and only pheasant I've ever seen hunting. Jon. |
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Kevin Vang wrote:
Anytime you're ready, dude! Make it mid-October on the shores of Lake Sakakawea, and we can hunt pheasants, Hungarian partridge, sharptail grouse, ducks, and geese all morning, and fish for pike, walleye, white bass, smallmouth, and even Chinook salmon in the afternoons. WHOA! -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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Jonathan Cook wrote:
rw wrote in message ... Action News that Cheney shot about 70 stocked pheasants and mallards Isn't anyone taking the bait? Man, you didn't even wait half a day! It must be snowing or something up there. Down here, I was riding through our mini-Grand Canyon all day. Well, that's a slight exaggeration, but it was a great day, probably 65 and sunny. We had a ferocious storm last night, but today was fine. We're having our annual XC Ski Festival, and it's been a big hit. They drank up five gallons of my homebrew this afternoon. No riding (we have four feet of snow), but I visited my horses yesterday, in Round Valley, and spent an hour steelhead fishing right by their pasture on the Salmon River. No luck. They're still stacked up below the Pahsimeroi hatchery. Is shooting 70 farm-raised pheasants and ducks in one day sportsmanlike? Probably not. But is catching 50 trout in a one day sportsmanlike? (OBROFF) No, it isn't. One should quit well before 50. IMO. Someone I know (closely) has been on a stocked pheasant hunt back east. But in their hunt, the birds were released the previous day, and they hunted them up with dogs. More like stocker trout fishing. It sounds like Cheney and gang just sat there and sipped tea as the field hands released birds to fly over them. I wouldn't care to partake in that. Me neither. It gives me the creeps, frankly. I always wanted to go pheasant hunting, though. Maybe Vang will host something someday :-) When I was about ten I pulled up on what I thought was a grouse (we were grouse hunting after all) but it didn't look right and finally I realized it was a hen pheasant. First and only pheasant I've ever seen hunting. I've never been bird hunting, apart from plinking songbirds with a pellet gun when I was a kid, but this year I'm changing that. We don't have pheasants, but my goal is to bag geese, turkey, and chukar this year. Wish me luck. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message . com... "Mike Connor" wrote in message ... "rw" schrieb im Newsbeitrag . .. You never caught a stock rainbow, which was specifically planted for the purpose of being caught? Fished on the redds? Judge not, lest you be judged. What politicians do with their free time, whether having blowjobs or shooting sitting ducks, is infinitely more preferable to what some of them do at work. TL MC certainly one of the most profound posts ever to appear herein. So true! /Roger |
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rw wrote in message ...
They drank up five gallons of my homebrew this afternoon. What'd you do, serve the whole town?!? I guess they were happy after that :-) Me neither. It gives me the creeps, frankly. I looked on the web before I posted to verify the story (not that I don't trust you but some wierd stuff has been flying by ROFF lately!). It seems Cheney is quite the avid sportsman. I mean "real" hunting and fishing. I'm surprised he would enjoy something like that, if he's done the real thing. But then, Cabela's seems to have 5 pages of game feeders, and ATVs are everywhere, so it's hard to tell what is "real" hunting anymore. have pheasants, but my goal is to bag geese, turkey, and chukar this year. Wish me luck. Yeah, I've made opening day of spring turkey the last 3 years (unfortunately _only_ the opening morning the last two years), had gobblers close but so far not fired a shot. But I'm hooked, it is way cool, and hoping for two days this year. Jon. PS: I have nothing in particular against ATVs. I know lots of nice people with them, and indeed the best hunter I know uses one. But just as in fishing, where 90% of the people fish the close, easy to access water, the same is true in hunting, except now they can drive just about anywhere. And there's too many who don't care about the laws and just cut across the land (and of course that's how the ATV industry advertises, anyways :-(. It doesn't seem like it's gonna stop until every garage has two!) |
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Jonathan Cook wrote:
PS: I have nothing in particular against ATVs. I know lots of nice people with them, and indeed the best hunter I know uses one. But just as in fishing, where 90% of the people fish the close, easy to access water, the same is true in hunting, except now they can drive just about anywhere. And there's too many who don't care about the laws and just cut across the land (and of course that's how the ATV industry advertises, anyways :-(. It doesn't seem like it's gonna stop until every garage has two!) ATVs have their uses, but I don't think hunting should be one of them, aside possibly for setting up camp and retrieving game. I'm gratified that Idaho is finally putting some serious restrictions on them. Elk and deer hunting from ATVs has dramatically increased in this state. Call me an elitist, but I think driving around on an ATV in search of game is cheating. These are the same people who have the nerve to complain about wolves killing "their" elk. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 07:54:42 -0700, rw
wrote: Jonathan Cook wrote: PS: I have nothing in particular against ATVs. I know lots of nice people with them, and indeed the best hunter I know uses one. But just as in fishing, where 90% of the people fish the close, easy to access water, the same is true in hunting, except now they can drive just about anywhere. And there's too many who don't care about the laws and just cut across the land (and of course that's how the ATV industry advertises, anyways :-(. It doesn't seem like it's gonna stop until every garage has two!) ATVs have their uses, but I don't think hunting should be one of them, aside possibly for setting up camp and retrieving game. I'm gratified that Idaho is finally putting some serious restrictions on them. Elk and deer hunting from ATVs has dramatically increased in this state. Call me an elitist, but I think driving around on an ATV in search of game is cheating. These are the same people who have the nerve to complain about wolves killing "their" elk. What type of restrictions? Vilas County, a few counties north of me, has just banned them from county land by a 2 to 1 vote in the last election. g.c. |
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George Cleveland wrote:
On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 07:54:42 -0700, rw wrote: Jonathan Cook wrote: PS: I have nothing in particular against ATVs. I know lots of nice people with them, and indeed the best hunter I know uses one. But just as in fishing, where 90% of the people fish the close, easy to access water, the same is true in hunting, except now they can drive just about anywhere. And there's too many who don't care about the laws and just cut across the land (and of course that's how the ATV industry advertises, anyways :-(. It doesn't seem like it's gonna stop until every garage has two!) ATVs have their uses, but I don't think hunting should be one of them, aside possibly for setting up camp and retrieving game. I'm gratified that Idaho is finally putting some serious restrictions on them. Elk and deer hunting from ATVs has dramatically increased in this state. Call me an elitist, but I think driving around on an ATV in search of game is cheating. These are the same people who have the nerve to complain about wolves killing "their" elk. What type of restrictions? Vilas County, a few counties north of me, has just banned them from county land by a 2 to 1 vote in the last election. g.c. http://www2.state.id.us/fishgame/hun...Vs/default.htm “Motorized vehicle use as an aid to hunting for wildlife is restricted to established roadways open to motorized vehicle traffic capable of travel by full-sized automobiles. A full-sized automobile is defined as any motorized vehicle with a gross vehicle weight in excess of 1,500 pounds.” "You will be considered hunting if you have a valid hunting license and tag and are chasing, driving, flushing, attracting, pursuing, seeking, following, trailing, shooting at, stalking, or lying in wait for, any wildlife while in possession of a hunting weapon. The rule does not affect you if you are staying on established roads." It's basically putting ATV hunters on a level footing with conventional road-hunting slobs, but so far only in some areas. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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In Kevin Vang wrote:
I think I'll hold off before I pencil anything on the calendar this year though. We have had several very good years for pheasant, but this winter has been so cold and snowy that I am afraid for the populations. Hopefully when the biologists start the spring census, the news won't be as bad as I fear it will be. Judging from the number of splattered birds in the ditch from the lake south, and the number of live birds seen picking grit in the same area, it *looks* like they made it through the winter OK. What will be worse, from a reproductive standpoint, would be a long, cold, wet spring that would take a lot of the young of the year out. *We* got a lot of snow, but there was rather less from the lake south, so perhaps not a *huge* impact to the population. The hunting in the fall may be better than the fishing if the lake continues to fall like it has. :-( Todd (remove hook to reply) |
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says...
snipped a bunch of other equally false assertions The Clarke fork, Madison, Gallatin etc. are all private property. This is completely false. But I bet everybody already knew that when they saw the source...... -- Warren (use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email) For Conclave Info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html |
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"troutbum_mt" wrote in message ... says... snipped a bunch of other equally false assertions The Clarke fork, Madison, Gallatin etc. are all private property. This is completely false. But I bet everybody already knew that when they saw the source...... Everybody else also got the point. Wolfgang |
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That's was in the futrue if the neocons have their way. Uner private
ownership or management the prime rivers will be in greatest demand and draw the highest daily fees. "troutbum_mt" wrote in message ... says... snipped a bunch of other equally false assertions The Clarke fork, Madison, Gallatin etc. are all private property. .. This is completely false. But I bet everybody already knew that when they saw the source...... That's will be the futrue if the neocons have their way. I know there free now I fished most of the them last summer.. Uner private ownership or management the prime rivers will be in greatest demand and draw the highest daily fees. If you don't think bush and his friends think get someone to tell you about deer hunting in Texas. It's just like Dick Cheny shooting pheasants. Take your kids fishing now, it may be a family legend they can tell you grandkids http://www.projectcensored.org/publi...s/2004/18.html -- Warren (use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email) For Conclave Info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html |
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"B J Conner" schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... SNIP Ah thunk, and so ah wuz. TL MC |
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On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 00:05:49 +0100, "Mike Connor"
wrote: Courtesy of Jimmy Dean I believe. Merle Haggard. -- Charlie... |
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"Charlie Choc" schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 00:05:49 +0100, "Mike Connor" wrote: Courtesy of Jimmy Dean I believe. Merle Haggard. -- Charlie... I stand corrected. I had the text on file, but no author. Too lazy to check! :) TL MC |
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"rw" Mark Bolish, an employee of the exclusive private club, told Channel 4 Action News that Cheney shot about 70 stocked pheasants and mallards that were released for a group of hunters. More than 400 of the farm-raised birds were killed in all. Date rape? john...(three square inches of reindeer hair to the first person to make that connection-but I warn you, I've just had two 24 ozz margaritas....) |
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says...
That's was in the futrue if the neocons have their way. Uner private ownership or management the prime rivers will be in greatest demand and draw the highest daily fees. Did you say "the future" Blownan? -- Warren (use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email) For Conclave Info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html |
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says...
On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 00:05:49 +0100, "Mike Connor" wrote: Courtesy of Jimmy Dean I believe. Merle Haggard. Thank you Choc! I was about ready to bust a gasket over here. bseg -- Warren (use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email) For Conclave Info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html |
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says...
I stand corrected. I had the text on file, but no author. Too lazy to check! :) Hell, at least you are standing. That would have been a very easy to one check on google. I am surprised you hadn't done it yet. -- Warren (use troutbum_mt (at) yahoo to reply via email) For Conclave Info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html |
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On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 03:01:28 GMT, "asadi"
wrote: "rw" Mark Bolish, an employee of the exclusive private club, told Channel 4 Action News that Cheney shot about 70 stocked pheasants and mallards that were released for a group of hunters. More than 400 of the farm-raised birds were killed in all. Date rape? john...(three square inches of reindeer hair to the first person to make that connection-but I warn you, I've just had two 24 ozz margaritas....) I'll need an explanation. I hope said explanation won't require me to count on my fingers in binary up to four and show the result... -- rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing. Often taunted by trout. Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it. http://www.visi.com/~cyli |
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 20:25:21 -0700, troutbum_mt wrote:
says... I stand corrected. I had the text on file, but no author. Too lazy to check! :) Hell, at least you are standing. That would have been a very easy to one check on google. I am surprised you hadn't done it yet. The 4th Google hit for "okie from muskogee" is "Jimmy Dean - Okie From Muskogee lyrics". g -- Charlie... |
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70 stocked pheasants
count on my fingers in binary up to 011001--? Lou T |
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This used to be a fishing discussion group!!
"rw" wrote in message . .. LIGONIER TOWNSHIP, Pa. -- Vice President Dick Cheney is being criticized for shooting duck and pheasant Monday at the Rolling Rock Club in Ligonier, Westmoreland County, Team 4's Jim Parsons reported. Mark Bolish, an employee of the exclusive private club, told Channel 4 Action News that Cheney shot about 70 stocked pheasants and mallards that were released for a group of hunters. More than 400 of the farm-raised birds were killed in all. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.602 / Virus Database: 383 - Release Date: 3/5/2004 |
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Sierra fisher top posted the following inanity:
This used to be a fishing discussion group!! The hell you say. Anytime you want to talk about fishing just step right up to the plate and talk away. Until then, kwitcherbitchin. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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I didn't know that you were setting the rules!
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message m... Sierra fisher top posted the following inanity: This used to be a fishing discussion group!! The hell you say. Anytime you want to talk about fishing just step right up to the plate and talk away. Until then, kwitcherbitchin. -- Ken Fortenberry --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.602 / Virus Database: 383 - Release Date: 3/5/2004 |
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Sierra fisher top posted the following stupidity:
I didn't know that you were setting the rules! There are no rules. Read this before you make a complete ass of yourself; http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~jcook/ROFF/ -- Ken Fortenberry |
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If there are no rules, why are trying to be the Enforcer?
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message om... Sierra fisher top posted the following stupidity: I didn't know that you were setting the rules! There are no rules. Read this before you make a complete ass of yourself; http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~jcook/ROFF/ -- Ken Fortenberry --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.602 / Virus Database: 383 - Release Date: 3/5/2004 |
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Sierra fisher top posted the following dumbass query:
If there are no rules, why are trying to be the Enforcer? No one here can "enforce" anything. The only Enforcers in the Usenet world are the individual ISPs. You can whine and bitch about roff being off topic until your fingers bleed all over the keyboard, but the only thing you'll accomplish is to make yourself look like a fool. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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Read your last two or three posts and then see who looks like a fool!!
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message om... Sierra fisher top posted the following dumbass query: If there are no rules, why are trying to be the Enforcer? No one here can "enforce" anything. The only Enforcers in the Usenet world are the individual ISPs. You can whine and bitch about roff being off topic until your fingers bleed all over the keyboard, but the only thing you'll accomplish is to make yourself look like a fool. -- Ken Fortenberry --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.602 / Virus Database: 383 - Release Date: 3/5/2004 |
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