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Fly Fishing As The Humane Way To Fish
I had the opportunity this past weekend to get away to the White
Mountains of NH for my gf's family reunion. We were staying at a resort with a small private pond that is loaded with rainbows 12-16'' and better. The resort gives away barbless hooks and very few people bothered to use them. Powerbait was the bait of choice and sadly I saw so many dead fish along the shore it turned my stomach. Even the adults who were fishing with kids seemed to have no concern as to whether the fish were released safely or not. I'm glad I decided to start fly fishing. |
Fly Fishing As The Humane Way To Fish
"tmon" wrote The resort gives away barbless hooks and very few people bothered to use them. Powerbait was the bait of choice and sadly I saw so many dead fish along the shore it turned my stomach. Even the adults who were fishing with kids seemed to have no concern as to whether the fish were released safely or not. I'm glad I decided to start fly fishing. why didn't you collect the fish, cook them and be grateful for the bounty? assuming they hadn't rottended, of course. wayno |
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On Thu, 27 May 2004 01:22:32 GMT, "Wayne Harrison" wrote:
"tmon" wrote The resort gives away barbless hooks and very few people bothered to use them. Powerbait was the bait of choice and sadly I saw so many dead fish along the shore it turned my stomach. Even the adults who were fishing with kids seemed to have no concern as to whether the fish were released safely or not. I'm glad I decided to start fly fishing. why didn't you collect the fish, cook them and be grateful for the bounty? assuming they hadn't rottended, of course. Well, he did say the reunion was in a civilized state, ya grit-eatin' heathen. /daytripper (kiss/hug ;-) |
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"daytripper" wrote Well, he did say the reunion was in a civilized state, ya grit-eatin' heathen. /daytripper (kiss/hug ;-) tweet! tweet! unfair and unfounded accusation! i wouldn't eat grits on a ****ing bet, having done that when i were a youngster, doncha know... yfitons wayno |
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"tmon" wrote
The resort gives away barbless hooks and very few people bothered to use them. Powerbait was the bait of choice and sadly I saw so many dead fish along the shore it turned my stomach. Even the adults who were fishing with kids seemed to have no concern as to whether the fish were released safely or not. I'm glad I decided to start fly fishing. Not all flyfishermen are considerate either. Flyfishing is only more sporting if it is done in a sporting manner. Having trouble with my newsreader again, and so I will reply to another thread here. I do have some pictures of homemade hooks somewhere, probably on the same disc as the hook making articles. If there is sufficient interest, I can try and get them put up on a site somewhere. For first attempts, no complicated gear is required. Merely a box of "straight pins" ( sewing shop), or a box of needles, ( which are extremely cheap), a pair of fine round needle nosed pliers ( The type used by telephone technicians etc to bend wire into loops), a pair of fine flat needle nosed pliers,and a small blow lamp. One of the "camping Gaz" type is very good. One may also use certain types of piano wire. If one does not wish to use barbs, then one can simply flatten the wire somewhat at the hook point, and then grind this to a spear point. This is done before the wire is bent. This holds just as well as a barb in most cases, but is easily removed. All bending operations are carried out after the wire has been annealed. ( De-tempered). ( Heat to cherry red, and allow to cool in a box of fine sand). Some people like to bend the wire while it is still hot. If you do this, then be careful. It bends extremely easily, and it is also easy to damage it. To make a hook eye, obtain some hard steel nails ( The type used for hanging pictures etc in brick walls), and use these as bending jigs. Drive the nails ( various sizes for various eyes of course) into a piece of hard wood. Cut off the heads ( Dremel or similar), and buff them up. I know at least one person who uses tempered steel nails to make salmon irons. This is relatively easy. One simply bends the wire into the shape required, using the pliers. One can make a round jig for this, or simply hold the wire against a pattern. The eye is formed around the nail shank, and a small hammer may be used to "dengle" the wire around the nail after the excess has been removed. This is easier if the wire for the eye is kept hot. It can be formed very easily indeed then. The hook bend is formed by holding the wire tightly with the flat pliers, and simply forming the bend with the round pliers. This is quite easy to do, although some practice is required in order to achieve consistency. The wire is over length to start with, and the eye is formed last. The excess is cut off when the eye is nearly formed, and then the eye is closed. There are no difficulties at all involved. The annealed wire is very soft and easy to bend. For tempering, one needs a small steel plate. First the hooks are hardened, by heating to cherry red, and dropping into ice water. The hooks are then placed in a container of sand, and shaken until bright. The metal plate is heated, the hooks placed on the plate, and carefully watched for the temper colour changes. The colour changes of the steel are caused by oxidation on the metal surface, and are extremely temperature specific. When the required temperature is achieved, the hooks are tipped off the plate immediately into ice water. If the temper is OK, then that was that. If not, simply repeat until the temper is OK. Once the temper is OK, then once again shake the hooks in sand ( Carborundum grit, etc etc) to clean off any scale etc. The temper colours vary somewhat depending on the steel used. High carbon steel is required. The stuff used for pins and needles is perfect. Some wires may not be. I have also made a fair number of stainless steel hooks, but this is much more difficult. Obtaining the steel for this is also not easy. The properties of stainless steel, depending on how it is alloyed, make it very difficult to work with. The hooks may be chemically sharpened by placing them in dilute sulphuric acid. ( Battery acid is OK). One may blue or bronze the hooks with ordinary gun blue.( Hardware store, gunsmiths, etc) One merely dips them. This is done by threading the hooks onto a wire by the eye, and dipping them in the blue). Allow to dry thoroughly, and that was that. They should be stored in waxed paper or similar, until required. Excessive heating and reheating may cause problems with the steel. If one is unable to achieve the temper required, then the hooks should be placed on a charcoal block, and then heated to red heat. This adds carbon to the steel. ( A type of "case hardening") and as the wire is thin, this penetrates fully. General hook anatomy here; http://www.fishsa.com/hooksan.php That was about it really. TL MC |
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Very interesting - Long ago I made some very small hooks from needles, the
object was to catch minnows for bait. As I was reading your post Adam Smith and part in Wealth of Nations about making pins came to mind. "Mike Connor" wrote in message ... "tmon" wrote The resort gives away barbless hooks and very few people bothered to use them. Powerbait was the bait of choice and sadly I saw so many dead fish along the shore it turned my stomach. Even the adults who were fishing with kids seemed to have no concern as to whether the fish were released safely or not. I'm glad I decided to start fly fishing. Not all flyfishermen are considerate either. Flyfishing is only more sporting if it is done in a sporting manner. Having trouble with my newsreader again, and so I will reply to another thread here. I do have some pictures of homemade hooks somewhere, probably on the same disc as the hook making articles. If there is sufficient interest, I can try and get them put up on a site somewhere. For first attempts, no complicated gear is required. Merely a box of "straight pins" ( sewing shop), or a box of needles, ( which are extremely cheap), a pair of fine round needle nosed pliers ( The type used by telephone technicians etc to bend wire into loops), a pair of fine flat needle nosed pliers,and a small blow lamp. One of the "camping Gaz" type is very good. One may also use certain types of piano wire. If one does not wish to use barbs, then one can simply flatten the wire somewhat at the hook point, and then grind this to a spear point. This is done before the wire is bent. This holds just as well as a barb in most cases, but is easily removed. All bending operations are carried out after the wire has been annealed. ( De-tempered). ( Heat to cherry red, and allow to cool in a box of fine sand). Some people like to bend the wire while it is still hot. If you do this, then be careful. It bends extremely easily, and it is also easy to damage it. To make a hook eye, obtain some hard steel nails ( The type used for hanging pictures etc in brick walls), and use these as bending jigs. Drive the nails ( various sizes for various eyes of course) into a piece of hard wood. Cut off the heads ( Dremel or similar), and buff them up. I know at least one person who uses tempered steel nails to make salmon irons. This is relatively easy. One simply bends the wire into the shape required, using the pliers. One can make a round jig for this, or simply hold the wire against a pattern. The eye is formed around the nail shank, and a small hammer may be used to "dengle" the wire around the nail after the excess has been removed. This is easier if the wire for the eye is kept hot. It can be formed very easily indeed then. The hook bend is formed by holding the wire tightly with the flat pliers, and simply forming the bend with the round pliers. This is quite easy to do, although some practice is required in order to achieve consistency. The wire is over length to start with, and the eye is formed last. The excess is cut off when the eye is nearly formed, and then the eye is closed. There are no difficulties at all involved. The annealed wire is very soft and easy to bend. For tempering, one needs a small steel plate. First the hooks are hardened, by heating to cherry red, and dropping into ice water. The hooks are then placed in a container of sand, and shaken until bright. The metal plate is heated, the hooks placed on the plate, and carefully watched for the temper colour changes. The colour changes of the steel are caused by oxidation on the metal surface, and are extremely temperature specific. When the required temperature is achieved, the hooks are tipped off the plate immediately into ice water. If the temper is OK, then that was that. If not, simply repeat until the temper is OK. Once the temper is OK, then once again shake the hooks in sand ( Carborundum grit, etc etc) to clean off any scale etc. The temper colours vary somewhat depending on the steel used. High carbon steel is required. The stuff used for pins and needles is perfect. Some wires may not be. I have also made a fair number of stainless steel hooks, but this is much more difficult. Obtaining the steel for this is also not easy. The properties of stainless steel, depending on how it is alloyed, make it very difficult to work with. The hooks may be chemically sharpened by placing them in dilute sulphuric acid. ( Battery acid is OK). One may blue or bronze the hooks with ordinary gun blue.( Hardware store, gunsmiths, etc) One merely dips them. This is done by threading the hooks onto a wire by the eye, and dipping them in the blue). Allow to dry thoroughly, and that was that. They should be stored in waxed paper or similar, until required. Excessive heating and reheating may cause problems with the steel. If one is unable to achieve the temper required, then the hooks should be placed on a charcoal block, and then heated to red heat. This adds carbon to the steel. ( A type of "case hardening") and as the wire is thin, this penetrates fully. General hook anatomy here; http://www.fishsa.com/hooksan.php That was about it really. TL MC |
Fly Fishing As The Humane Way To Fish
"B J Conner" wrote in message ... Very interesting - Long ago I made some very small hooks from needles, the object was to catch minnows for bait. As I was reading your post Adam Smith and part in Wealth of Nations about making pins came to mind. A bent pin is quite an efficient hook, as many small boys could once have told you! :) The great thing about making your own hooks, is that you can make any shape you like, and the hooks are often superior to the manufactured ones. Tempering is the main trick you need to learn. TL MC |
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"Mike Connor" wrote in message ... "tmon" wrote The resort gives away barbless hooks and very few people bothered to use them. Powerbait was the bait of choice and sadly I saw so many dead fish along the shore it turned my stomach. Even the adults who were fishing with kids seemed to have no concern as to whether the fish were released safely or not. I'm glad I decided to start fly fishing. are you saying there was there a connection between the power bait and the fish deaths? is there something toxic in the power bait? someone fishing next me the other day gave me a jar of it, but i release what i catch, and if the power bait is somehow harmful to the fish, i don't want to use it. when you refer to unsafe release methods, to what are you referring? thanks- snakefiddler SNIPPED That was about it really. TL MC |
Fly Fishing As The Humane Way To Fish
"snakefiddler" wrote... "tmon" wrote The resort gives away barbless hooks and very few people bothered to use them. Powerbait was the bait of choice and sadly I saw so many dead fish along the shore it turned my stomach. Even the adults who were fishing with kids seemed to have no concern as to whether the fish were released safely or not. I'm glad I decided to start fly fishing. are you saying there was there a connection between the power bait and the fish deaths? is there something toxic in the power bait? someone fishing next me the other day gave me a jar of it, but i release what i catch, and if the power bait is somehow harmful to the fish, i don't want to use it. when you refer to unsafe release methods, to what are you referring? I think he's just saying that fly fishers are just a better class of people, but you already knew that. ;-) -- TL, Tim (BTW, PowerBait tastes like chicken) ------------------------ http://css.sbcma.com/timj |
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On Thu, 27 May 2004 07:02:48 -0400, "snakefiddler"
wrote: are you saying there was there a connection between the power bait and the fish deaths? The only connection is that trout may be more likely to swallow Powerbait and get deep hooked. As soon as a trout gets a fly in its mouth it generally realizes it isn't food tries to spit it out. -- Charlie... |
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Mike Connor wrote:
[snip of extremely interesting discussion of homemade hooks] For tempering, one needs a small steel plate. First the hooks are hardened, by heating to cherry red, and dropping into ice water. The hooks are then placed in a container of sand, and shaken until bright. The metal plate is heated, the hooks placed on the plate, and carefully watched for the temper colour changes. The colour changes of the steel are caused by oxidation on the metal surface, and are extremely temperature specific. When the required temperature is achieved, the hooks are tipped off the plate immediately into ice water. If the temper is OK, then that was that. If not, simply repeat until the temper is OK. Once the temper is OK, then once again shake the hooks in sand ( Carborundum grit, etc etc) to clean off any scale etc. The temper colours vary somewhat depending on the steel used. High carbon steel is required. The stuff used for pins and needles is perfect. Some wires may not be. What basic colors are you looking for with hooks? I know among the woodworking community there is quite a bit of discussion (argument, really) about which types of tool steel are best for plane irons and such, and how they should be tempered. In woodworking edge-tools, we are looking for the balance between hardness and brittleness, and depending on the type of steel and the application, you might aim for a brown yellow (plane iron) to a blue (sawblade or scraper). So what have you found to be the optimal range for hooks? Chuck Vance |
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"Conan the Librarian" wrote in message ... SNIP What basic colors are you looking for with hooks? I know among the woodworking community there is quite a bit of discussion (argument, really) about which types of tool steel are best for plane irons and such, and how they should be tempered. In woodworking edge-tools, we are looking for the balance between hardness and brittleness, and depending on the type of steel and the application, you might aim for a brown yellow (plane iron) to a blue (sawblade or scraper). So what have you found to be the optimal range for hooks? Chuck Vance Depends on the steel used. From light straw to blue. Much the same as for many tools. The simplest thing is to try a few, it does not take long. "Case hardening", will improve many wires. This can be done on a charcoal block, or by placing the hooks in charcoal powder, ( or similar) and heating to red heat. For the needles I have used I aim mainly for dark straw, and test from there. One may temper as many times as one wishes, so it is not really a problem, except with very fine wires. Hooks below about a size 16 are not really worth the bother either. TL MC |
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Charlie Choc wrote in message ... On Thu, 27 May 2004 07:02:48 -0400, "snakefiddler" wrote: As soon as a trout gets a fly in its mouth it generally realizes it isn't food tries to spit it out. And they sometimes do this so damned fast! |
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On Thu, 27 May 2004 20:21:59 -0500, "Wolfgang"
wrote: Either that or you would be seen as a party pooper type. Speaking of which, it looks like we'll be attending seperate soirees in a couple of weeks. While I haven't spoken to him lately, I'm sure that Joel is still planning to rip some lips in that highly confidential smallmouth paradise not so very far from you that I've been promising to take you to. As he has promised to take a friend (?!) with him, I suspect his plans are not amenable to change. For good or ill, I'll be joining them......um.....just so they don't get lost. Well, good luck to ya then. Of course one could fish the Secret Spot (tm) for a day and then zip the mere 150 miles west over to the Trimbelle campground and toast ones shins by the fire. Again, good luck. And listen for the sirens!!! g.c. g.c. Still wondering where we're going to find another planet. How many ya need, kid? Wolfgang checking his pockets. |
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Mike Connor wrote:
"Conan the Librarian" wrote in message ... So what have you found to be the optimal range for hooks? Depends on the steel used. From light straw to blue. Much the same as for many tools. The simplest thing is to try a few, it does not take long. "Case hardening", will improve many wires. This can be done on a charcoal block, or by placing the hooks in charcoal powder, ( or similar) and heating to red heat. For the needles I have used I aim mainly for dark straw, and test from there. One may temper as many times as one wishes, so it is not really a problem, except with very fine wires. Hooks below about a size 16 are not really worth the bother either. Thanks for the info. I didn't realize that you could temper multiple times without making the hooks too brittle. (If I'm not mistaken, that is an issue with tool steel.) When you say you "test from there", do you mean you simply take them astream, or do you have some other way of testing them? Anyhow, thanks for the detailed description and the followup. I love the DIY approach to these sorts of things, so it looks like I may be entering a new aspect of this hobby. Chuck Vance |
Fly Fishing As The Humane Way To Fish
"Conan the Librarian" wrote in message ... Mike Connor wrote: SNIP ..) When you say you "test from there", do you mean you simply take them astream, or do you have some other way of testing them? Anyhow, thanks for the detailed description and the followup. I love the DIY approach to these sorts of things, so it looks like I may be entering a new aspect of this hobby. Chuck Vance You must of course de-temper ( anneal) before retempering, as some steels will indeed go very brittle otherwise. One should try at least one or two of the raw hooks from each batch one makes. If you "case harden" wire using the charcoal or powdered carbon methods, you must be careful not to overdo it. I usually try a few samples to see how it turns out. This works very well with some wires, and not too well with others. This of course is dependent on the amount of carbon in the steel already. Without an extensive metallurgy lab, there is no way to test this except by trial and error. Many hookmakers in the past tempered their hooks to purple. Some older hooks, which tend to be soft, where tempered blue. There were only a few of the older hookmakers who knew the secret of making good high carbon steel. This also caused problems. Nowadays this is not a problem. After you have tested a few hooks, you will simply "know" if they are OK. Just fix them in a fly-vice and pluck them, ( I do the same test on manufactured hooks anyway). It is easy to see and hear whether you got it right. Once you know the temper colour for that particular material ( Stainless steel is different!), then the rest is easy. Harden, and then temper. If you want to play about with this, then just buy some cheap hooks, detemper them, and then re-harden and temper. Quite a few salmon fly dressers buy cheaper salmon hooks, and re-shape and temper them, in order to obtain exactly what they want, although the temper here is not critical, as these hooks are not used for fishing, merely for dressing show flies. Really, the whole thing is quite easy. After doing a few, you just know how it goes. The most difficult operations are barbing, and forming the eye consistently. The rest is really just routine. With a little practice, even these operations are quite easy. TL MC |
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On Fri, 28 May 2004 16:34:35 +0200, "Mike Connor"
wrote: "Conan the Librarian" wrote in message ... Mike Connor wrote: SNIP .) When you say you "test from there", do you mean you simply take them astream, or do you have some other way of testing them? Anyhow, thanks for the detailed description and the followup. I love the DIY approach to these sorts of things, so it looks like I may be entering a new aspect of this hobby. Chuck Vance You must of course de-temper ( anneal) before retempering, as some steels will indeed go very brittle otherwise. One should try at least one or two of the raw hooks from each batch one makes. If you "case harden" wire using the charcoal or powdered carbon methods, you must be careful not to overdo it. I usually try a few samples to see how it turns out. This works very well with some wires, and not too well with others. This of course is dependent on the amount of carbon in the steel already. Without an extensive metallurgy lab, there is no way to test this except by trial and error. Many hookmakers in the past tempered their hooks to purple. Some older hooks, which tend to be soft, where tempered blue. There were only a few of the older hookmakers who knew the secret of making good high carbon steel. This also caused problems. Nowadays this is not a problem. After you have tested a few hooks, you will simply "know" if they are OK. Just fix them in a fly-vice and pluck them, ( I do the same test on manufactured hooks anyway). It is easy to see and hear whether you got it right. Once you know the temper colour for that particular material ( Stainless steel is different!), then the rest is easy. Harden, and then temper. If you want to play about with this, then just buy some cheap hooks, detemper them, and then re-harden and temper. Quite a few salmon fly dressers buy cheaper salmon hooks, and re-shape and temper them, in order to obtain exactly what they want, although the temper here is not critical, as these hooks are not used for fishing, merely for dressing show flies. Really, the whole thing is quite easy. After doing a few, you just know how it goes. The most difficult operations are barbing, and forming the eye consistently. The rest is really just routine. With a little practice, even these operations are quite easy. TL MC http://www.flyanglersonline.com/ligh...arefootboy.gif g.c. |
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"George Cleveland" wrote in message ... On Thu, 27 May 2004 20:21:59 -0500, "Wolfgang" wrote: Either that or you would be seen as a party pooper type. Speaking of which, it looks like we'll be attending seperate soirees in a couple of weeks. While I haven't spoken to him lately, I'm sure that Joel is still planning to rip some lips in that highly confidential smallmouth paradise not so very far from you that I've been promising to take you to. As he has promised to take a friend (?!) with him, I suspect his plans are not amenable to change. For good or ill, I'll be joining them......um.....just so they don't get lost. Well, good luck to ya then. Of course one could fish the Secret Spot (tm) for a day and then zip the mere 150 miles west over to the Trimbelle campground and toast ones shins by the fire. Hm.......Joel? Again, good luck. And listen for the sirens!!! Tie me to the mast, matey. Wolfgang |
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On Wed, 26 May 2004 18:54:04 -0400, (tmon) wrote: I had the opportunity this past weekend to get away to the White Mountains of NH for my gf's family reunion. We were staying at a resort with a small private pond that is loaded with rainbows 12-16'' and better. The resort gives away barbless hooks and very few people bothered to use them. Powerbait was the bait of choice and sadly I saw so many dead fish along the shore it turned my stomach. Even the adults who were fishing with kids seemed to have no concern as to whether the fish were released safely or not. I'm glad I decided to start fly fishing. So you think its humane to have a fish get stuck in the mouth with a fly then dragged all over the place? Would you do that to your dog? Catch and release is not about being nice to the FISH, sticking them in the mouth with a sharp hook is not nice Catch and Release is about US, about not decimating all the fish so WE still have fish to catch. If I thought fish were evolved enough such that hooking them in the mouth was the same as hooking a dog in the mouth, I would not fish. But alas, I do not think that is the case. So I do not turn up my noise to those that bait fish thinking I am morally superior. I find it odd that you do. |
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In article ,
(tmon) wrote: From: (George*Cleveland) Well my take on this episode is this: To the vast majority of people who fished the resort's pond the fish were just another "attraction", something the resort provided for their benefit and amusement, paid for by the guests own money. So the fish are removed in their minds as having the status of functioning members of an ecosystem and instead are demoted to the role of play"things". Objectivization, pure and simple. Whether fish, women, ecosystems or entire planets, the fate of all "objects" is to use them until they no longer amuse us and then toss them away. Your concern for the well being of the fish would probably be met by a lack of understanding on the part of many of the guests. Either that or you would be seen as a party pooper type. g.c. Still wondering where we're going to find another planet. And there were pamphlets in the lobby, "How To Safely Release A Fish" which I'm sure few people even bothered to read. As a follow up to my previous post, if you truely want to be humane, you need to fish like a writter in flyfisherman. Many many years ago I read the article, the author dry fly fishes and cuts off the hook. Thus he never hooks the fish. He just fishes for the excitement of getting fish to rise to his fly. I kid thy not. (the article was in the 1980's) |
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On Sat, 29 May 2004 07:16:51 GMT, Steve Sullivan wrote:
In article , (tmon) wrote: From: (George*Cleveland) Well my take on this episode is this: To the vast majority of people who fished the resort's pond the fish were just another "attraction", something the resort provided for their benefit and amusement, paid for by the guests own money. So the fish are removed in their minds as having the status of functioning members of an ecosystem and instead are demoted to the role of play"things". Objectivization, pure and simple. Whether fish, women, ecosystems or entire planets, the fate of all "objects" is to use them until they no longer amuse us and then toss them away. Your concern for the well being of the fish would probably be met by a lack of understanding on the part of many of the guests. Either that or you would be seen as a party pooper type. g.c. Still wondering where we're going to find another planet. And there were pamphlets in the lobby, "How To Safely Release A Fish" which I'm sure few people even bothered to read. As a follow up to my previous post, if you truely want to be humane, you need to fish like a writter in flyfisherman. Many many years ago I read the article, the author dry fly fishes and cuts off the hook. Thus he never hooks the fish. He just fishes for the excitement of getting fish to rise to his fly. I kid thy not. (the article was in the 1980's) So you think its humane to have a fish expend precious energy to stalk and attack a hookless phony? Do you really do that to your dog? "No Catch" is not about being nice to the FISH, teasing them with hookless hooks is not nice. "No Catch" is about YOU, about not decimating all the fish so YOU still have fish to taunt. If I thought fish were evolved enough such that taunting them was the same as taunting a dog, I would not fish. But alas, I do not think that is the case. So I do not turn up my noise [sic] to those that bait fish thinking I am morally superior. I find it odd that you do... /daytripper (it had to be said ;-) |
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