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How to carry a net
Willi's thread Some C&R Information spawned a related
discussion that I think deserves its own thread. I don't carry a net anymore. I know that, in the interest of the fish I plan to C&R, I probably should but it's a pain in the ass. I've tried carrying it on a big huge Orvis zinger, on a "french clip", I've tried carrying it handle side up, handle side down, I've even tried a big honking piece of elastic rubber band over one shoulder and under the other arm. Pains in the ass, each and every one, the damn thing is always getting hung up and in the way. How do you carry a net ? -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 23:58:42 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: Willi's thread Some C&R Information spawned a related discussion that I think deserves its own thread. I don't carry a net anymore. I know that, in the interest of the fish I plan to C&R, I probably should but it's a pain in the ass. I've tried carrying it on a big huge Orvis zinger, on a "french clip", I've tried carrying it handle side up, handle side down, I've even tried a big honking piece of elastic rubber band over one shoulder and under the other arm. Pains in the ass, each and every one, the damn thing is always getting hung up and in the way. How do you carry a net ? Attached to the back of my vest, handle down, using a quick disconnect at the head. Just pull on the handle hard enough and the net pops free. It rarely bothers me enough to not carry it - unless I know we're gonna be into tiny - or freaky huge - fare... /daytripper |
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The back of my vest has a metalring on the back between the shoulderblades. I use that and a net holder that I bought from Orvis: http://www.orvis.com/store/product_d...subcat_id=6023 It works reasonably well. Ken Fortenberry wrote: Willi's thread Some C&R Information spawned a related discussion that I think deserves its own thread. I don't carry a net anymore. I know that, in the interest of the fish I plan to C&R, I probably should but it's a pain in the ass. I've tried carrying it on a big huge Orvis zinger, on a "french clip", I've tried carrying it handle side up, handle side down, I've even tried a big honking piece of elastic rubber band over one shoulder and under the other arm. Pains in the ass, each and every one, the damn thing is always getting hung up and in the way. How do you carry a net ? -- Ken Fortenberry |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. .. Willi's thread Some C&R Information spawned a related discussion that I think deserves its own thread. I don't carry a net anymore. I know that, in the interest of the fish I plan to C&R, I probably should but it's a pain in the ass. I've tried carrying it on a big huge Orvis zinger, on a "french clip", I've tried carrying it handle side up, handle side down, I've even tried a big honking piece of elastic rubber band over one shoulder and under the other arm. Pains in the ass, each and every one, the damn thing is always getting hung up and in the way. How do you carry a net ? -- Ken Fortenberry I agree that nets are a PITA. Up until about a year and a half ago I never carried a net and never found myself in dire need for one (after all, these are NJ trout). While at the annual NJ Flyfishing Expo the gear whore in me kicked in and I began admiring the woodwork on some nets and ended up buying one. Then, as you say, I tried a few different attachment methods and they all are more of a PITA than the darn thing is worth. Forget about trekking into my favorite local spot with that net on my back. It is a magnet for every branch and bush in the path. Anyone wanna buy a barely used net and a few attchment gizmos? |
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The magnet thing on the back of the vest.
Bought one at Penns this year and it works great....had to use it on a brookie, must been 11 or 12 inches. Three days ago it was 10 or 11 inches. They grow fast. Glad I had my net. john "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message . .. Willi's thread Some C&R Information spawned a related discussion that I think deserves its own thread. I don't carry a net anymore. I know that, in the interest of the fish I plan to C&R, I probably should but it's a pain in the ass. I've tried carrying it on a big huge Orvis zinger, on a "french clip", I've tried carrying it handle side up, handle side down, I've even tried a big honking piece of elastic rubber band over one shoulder and under the other arm. Pains in the ass, each and every one, the damn thing is always getting hung up and in the way. How do you carry a net ? -- Ken Fortenberry |
How to carry a net
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message . .. I don't carry a net anymore. I know that, in the interest of the fish I plan to C&R, I probably should but it's a pain in the ass. I've tried carrying it on a big huge Orvis zinger, on a "french clip", I've tried carrying it handle side up, handle side down, I've even tried a big honking piece of elastic rubber band over one shoulder and under the other arm. Pains in the ass, each and every one, the damn thing is always getting hung up and in the way. Magnetic Clip, ,the Whorvis one mentioned elsewhere. |
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On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 20:31:00 -0500, "Wayne Knight"
wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... I don't carry a net anymore. I know that, in the interest of the fish I plan to C&R, I probably should but it's a pain in the ass. I've tried carrying it on a big huge Orvis zinger, on a "french clip", I've tried carrying it handle side up, handle side down, I've even tried a big honking piece of elastic rubber band over one shoulder and under the other arm. Pains in the ass, each and every one, the damn thing is always getting hung up and in the way. Magnetic Clip, ,the Whorvis one mentioned elsewhere. Me too. Hung by the top of the hoop. Although I have several friends who actually tuck their nets (hoop first) into that big back pocket on their vests. g.c. |
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"George Cleveland" wrote in message ... On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 20:31:00 -0500, "Wayne Knight" wrote: "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... I don't carry a net anymore. I know that, in the interest of the fish I plan to C&R, I probably should but it's a pain in the ass. I've tried carrying it on a big huge Orvis zinger, on a "french clip", I've tried carrying it handle side up, handle side down, I've even tried a big honking piece of elastic rubber band over one shoulder and under the other arm. Pains in the ass, each and every one, the damn thing is always getting hung up and in the way. Magnetic Clip, ,the Whorvis one mentioned elsewhere. Me too. Hung by the top of the hoop. Although I have several friends who actually tuck their nets (hoop first) into that big back pocket on their vests. g.c. I can't imagine that would be very user friendly. Trying to get anything out of that back pocket without engaging in some very perverse moves is nearly impossible. I nearly killed myself one day trying to get a beer out of that darn pocket. Natty |
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George Cleveland wrote:
Magnetic Clip, ,the Whorvis one mentioned elsewhere. Me too. Hung by the top of the hoop. Right. Tether it to your vest, though, or you will soon be without a net. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote... Willi's thread Some C&R Information spawned a related discussion that I think deserves its own thread. I don't carry a net anymore. I know that, in the interest of the fish I plan to C&R, I probably should but it's a pain in the ass. I've tried carrying it on a big huge Orvis zinger, on a "french clip", I've tried carrying it handle side up, handle side down, I've even tried a big honking piece of elastic rubber band over one shoulder and under the other arm. Pains in the ass, each and every one, the damn thing is always getting hung up and in the way. How do you carry a net ? Just so, pinky extended, of course. :) I stick it in the large zip pocket on the back of my vest. It *used* to also be attached to the middle ring until I lost the damned thing somewhere between the old vest and the new one. I guess it's time to give Cabelas some more $$. -- TL, Tim ------------------------ http://css.sbcma.com/timj |
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i picked up a cheap crystal river net, with soft flat meshy material. i
wanted something really nice, but i'm poor. at first, i carried it on each trip. december, january, feb, march of 2003/3004. then i realized i hadn't caught a fish all those months after being somewhat sucessful. so i figured it was a jinxed net. why not? finally, i started catching fish again in april, WITH the net, which i had brought along for some reason. it came with a clip, and a very long stretchy looped line. i attached that to the d ring on the back of my fishpond blue river bag, but the string was so long. i'd just run it over my shoulder, at times it would slide down in front, ****ingly. since i carried the bag at my side, the d-ring was subsequently relocated to my left shoulder area, not in the ceneter of my back. last month, i bought the orvis thing. i was hoping i could carry it handle down, thinking that would be best in use, but can't figure out how to use the orvis thing in that manner. admittingly, i haven't exercised many brain cells in figuring it out. someday. anybody have any tips? is there a specially designed, handle-down net keeper? i don't think i really NEED a net. most trout i catch are from sierra streams and seeing how i'm a beginner, i'm hooking into fish 3-12inches, at most. SO FAR. whoah. too many words. sorry. eric fresno, ca. From: Ken Fortenberry Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 23:58:42 GMT Subject: How to carry a net Willi's thread Some C&R Information spawned a related discussion that I think deserves its own thread. I don't carry a net anymore. I know that, in the interest of the fish I plan to C&R, I probably should but it's a pain in the ass. I've tried carrying it on a big huge Orvis zinger, on a "french clip", I've tried carrying it handle side up, handle side down, I've even tried a big honking piece of elastic rubber band over one shoulder and under the other arm. Pains in the ass, each and every one, the damn thing is always getting hung up and in the way. How do you carry a net ? -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On Thu, 3 Jun 2004, Asadi wrote:
The magnet thing on the back of the vest. The Brodin magnet seems stronger than the Orvis IMO. Mu |
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"Mu Young Lee" wrote in message cc.itd.umich.edu... On Thu, 3 Jun 2004, Asadi wrote: The magnet thing on the back of the vest. The Brodin magnet seems stronger than the Orvis IMO. Agreed. The best thing about it is not having to fumble around to re-attach it when you are done using it. |
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Ken wrote:snipHow do you carry a net ?
I don't. I leave the damn thing at home since the last time it hit me in the head after being snagged and damn near knocked me out. I don't think that anyone who is in the least accident prone should attempt to carry a net. Well, perhaps in the bottom of the canoe it no portaging will be involved.. Big Dale |
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"Charlie Wilson" wrote in message ... "Mu Young Lee" wrote in message cc.itd.umich.edu... On Thu, 3 Jun 2004, Asadi wrote: The magnet thing on the back of the vest. The Brodin magnet seems stronger than the Orvis IMO. Agreed. The best thing about it is not having to fumble around to re-attach it when you are done using it. I've not seen the Brodin magnet, but I do have the Orvis one. It works great. I've had absolutely no problem whatsoever with either accessing my net (the handle is up, in my case) or with re-attaching it to the magnet. The clip came with a coiled cord, similar to a telephone cord, the extends when in use. I think this also cuts down on the chances of it getting tangled up. I have had my net caught in the weeds on the way to or from a stream, but it's been relatively rare and easy to get untangled. The only other problem I have on a somewhat regular basis is when I fail to de-barb a hook and net a fish, occasionally the spear of the hook will extend through the fish's mouth and bury into my net. However, it's simple to clamp down the barb and remove the hook from net and fish. |
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Unlike some people, no matter how BIG a PITA, I always have a net with me.
If one doesn't do everything in their power to ensure the survival of *our* WILD trout, they are nothing more than careless disgusting scum who rob future generations of their heritage. I always hire a personal net-caddy to carry my net for me. Cost is no object, when it comes to preserving *our* WILD trout! Mark "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message . .. Willi's thread Some C&R Information spawned a related discussion that I think deserves its own thread. I don't carry a net anymore. I know that, in the interest of the fish I plan to C&R, I probably should but it's a pain in the ass. I've tried carrying it on a big huge Orvis zinger, on a "french clip", I've tried carrying it handle side up, handle side down, I've even tried a big honking piece of elastic rubber band over one shoulder and under the other arm. Pains in the ass, each and every one, the damn thing is always getting hung up and in the way. How do you carry a net ? -- Ken Fortenberry |
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i bid $1.25...
jeff NattyBumppo wrote: Anyone wanna buy a barely used net and a few attchment gizmos? |
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On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 07:57:08 -0400, Jeff Miller
wrote: i bid $1.25... jeff NattyBumppo wrote: Anyone wanna buy a barely used net and a few attchment gizmos? $1.38 |
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"George Cleveland" wrote in message
... On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 07:57:08 -0400, Jeff Miller wrote: i bid $1.25... jeff NattyBumppo wrote: Anyone wanna buy a barely used net and a few attchment gizmos? $1.38 Tree Fitty. |
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Attached to the back of my vest, handle down, using a quick disconnect at
the head. Just pull on the handle hard enough and the net pops free. It rarely bothers me enough to not carry it - unless I know we're gonna be into tiny - or freaky huge - fare... /daytripper What do you do when you've caught some fish, and the net is wet and slimy(slime can easily be washed out of course)? Smear the back of your vest with slime and soak the back of your vest with the water? Just a thought :O) /Thomas |
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Stan Gula wrote:
"George Cleveland" wrote: $1.38 Tree Fitty. Hey !! That's a Chicago accent. Standard primer on how to talk Chicago; remember dese tree tings. ;-) -- Ken Fortenberry |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message . .. How do you carry a net ? I don't carry a net as much as I once did, when I do, my net has a 1/8 inch bungee cord hooked to the handle end with the other end attached with a clip to the D ring on my waders between my shoulders. I then have a quick disconnect net release (mine is a Brodin) that connects to the top of the net and that also connects to the D ring on my waders. It works pretty well, the net will lay against your back and does not get tangled in brush, etc... too much and is easy to reach up and grab the handle when landing a fish. The 1/8 bungee works well, many times I will pull the net off my back and let it lay in the water next to my side until the fish is ready to be landed. JT |
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Chester the Molester wrote:
... I always hire a personal net-caddy to carry my net for me. Cost is no object, when it comes to preserving *our* WILD trout! Geez Chester, I sure hope you didn't skip a session of your bed wetter support group just to post THAT nonsense. Now go crawl back under your rock, you despicable cracker. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Willi's thread Some C&R Information spawned a related discussion that I think deserves its own thread. I don't carry a net anymore. I know that, in the interest of the fish I plan to C&R, I probably should but it's a pain in the ass. I've tried carrying it on a big huge Orvis zinger, on a "french clip", I've tried carrying it handle side up, handle side down, I've even tried a big honking piece of elastic rubber band over one shoulder and under the other arm. Pains in the ass, each and every one, the damn thing is always getting hung up and in the way. How do you carry a net ? -- Ken Fortenberry I, like you, threw mine away. I got a pretty good lick on the back of the head while carrying a net on one of those elastic carriers. The net hung on a branch and when it released, it got me pretty good. |
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Naw, I make it to all THOSE sessions, regardless of the nonsense I post here.
I know how one's pot fogged mind can become forgetful though, so remember to feed your k_d. Now go back to your drug stash, you hypocritical elitist wannabe. Mark "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message .. . Chester the Molester wrote: ... I always hire a personal net-caddy to carry my net for me. Cost is no object, when it comes to preserving *our* WILD trout! Geez Chester, I sure hope you didn't skip a session of your bed wetter support group just to post THAT nonsense. Now go crawl back under your rock, you despicable cracker. -- Ken Fortenberry --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.692 / Virus Database: 453 - Release Date: 5/28/2004 |
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On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 15:18:50 +0200, "fish.iddx.net" wrote:
Atttached to the back of my vest, handle down, using a quick disconnect at the head. Just pull on the handle hard enough and the net pops free. It rarely bothers me enough to not carry it - unless I know we're gonna be into tiny - or freaky huge - fare... /daytripper What do you do when you've caught some fish, and the net is wet and slimy(slime can easily be washed out of course)? Smear the back of your vest with slime and soak the back of your vest with the water? Well, soitenly! Getting the back of your vest all wet and gooey makes it easy for others to tell you had a great day fishing... /daytripper (rookie! ;-) |
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Ken Fortenberry wrote in message ... Willi's thread Some C&R Information spawned a related discussion that I think deserves its own thread. I don't carry a net anymore. I know that, in the interest of the fish I plan to C&R, I probably should but it's a pain in the ass. I've tried carrying it on a big huge Orvis zinger, on a "french clip", I've tried carrying it handle side up, handle side down, I've even tried a big honking piece of elastic rubber band over one shoulder and under the other arm. Pains in the ass, each and every one, the damn thing is always getting hung up and in the way. How do you carry a net ? Agree that nets are a nuisance, especially for fishing in small overgrown streams & barbed wire fences. More than once has my net been a terrible hazard to wading in difficult stretches of water. I remember once my net's mesh fastening onto my waders' studs as I was treading downwards with that foot ~ result is that the leg cannot be fully extended, and being off-balance on a rocky bed with reasonable current, over you go! If I am wading up a stream, I don't bother with taking the net ~ it is simple to bring the fish to the lee created by the presence of your legs in the current, the fish can be brought to bay and carefully inverted in the water, so as to make the brown trout docile enough to unhook and release with little fuss at all. The fish is virtually none the worse off, as he doesn't even need to be removed from the water. However, lately I have become a member of a river that is in general too deep for wading, and here a net is a must. A few weeks ago I landed a 3lb fish that I would have had no chance of at all had I been without a net. In fact, in reaching for that particular fish I was cursing my net for its handle being too short! For carrying my net, my bag has a ring on it on the forward face ~ my net fits here very nicely, although if fishing in welly boots, then the net has a nasty habit of making your left trouser let slimy from direct contact. Thigh waders are fine though, and I really ought to consider thigh waders as the bare minimum for flyfishing foorware, and forget about wellies. |
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In article ,
eric paul zamora wrote: i don't think i really NEED a net. most trout i catch are from sierra streams and seeing how i'm a beginner, i'm hooking into fish 3-12inches, at most. SO FAR. whoah. too many words. sorry. eric fresno, ca. Just wait till you wait a couple hundred feet into a big river to catch steelhead. Being 50 feet from shore with a 25 inch chrome steely is alot different that a 10 inch trout in a small creek. Isnt their a good steelhead stream near Fresno? Maybe the merced? |
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In article ,
George Cleveland wrote: On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 07:57:08 -0400, Jeff Miller wrote: i bid $1.25... jeff NattyBumppo wrote: Anyone wanna buy a barely used net and a few attchment gizmos? I will bid $10, you pay shipping. |
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You can argue about cane being better than carbon (I don't think it is)
and silk being better than plastic (I don't think it is) but one thing that's useless is those daft wooden nets. I've got one. It looks pretty. It's a design disaster. (I do use cane rods and silk lines, tho. Quite often. I like them. ) For trout, you need a Slovroken net (sp?) folded in two, slung in a loop at the nape of the neck. You wash it roughly for the slime after you've caught something (but my fishing clothes aren't that smart to begin with.) I tried the orvis magnets but every so often they'd come undone. For salmon, I try to do without a net, and most of them I've tailed. The trouble is that every so often you really need a net. That's my 2cw Lazarus -- Remover the rock from the email address |
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On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Steve Sullivan wrote:
Just wait till you wait a couple hundred feet into a big river to catch steelhead. Being 50 feet from shore with a 25 inch chrome steely is alot different that a 10 inch trout in a small creek. Isnt their a good steelhead stream near Fresno? Maybe the merced? Yeah, rub it in why doncha. Mu, in Ventura county |
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On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 23:58:42 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: Willi's thread Some C&R Information spawned a related discussion that I think deserves its own thread. I don't carry a net anymore. I know that, in the interest of the fish I plan to C&R, I probably should but it's a pain in the ass. I've tried carrying it on a big huge Orvis zinger, on a "french clip", I've tried carrying it handle side up, handle side down, I've even tried a big honking piece of elastic rubber band over one shoulder and under the other arm. Pains in the ass, each and every one, the damn thing is always getting hung up and in the way. How do you carry a net ? Carried at the back of my neck from a D-ring, handle down, on a small plastic clip that pops off as needed. The handle has a french clip that is attached to a 1" elastic strap that serves as a lanyard. The elastic strap is attached at the other end to the same D-ring. At the handle end of the elastic strap, I've sewed velcro hooks and on the lback left panel of the vest, of sewed a double row of velcro wool. The strap with the handle of the net then velcros to my left side, just off my hip where it's close at hand when I need it. Since the handle is canted off to the left, if I sit down anywhere, I don't get the net jammed into the back of my head. With the velcro attachment, the net doesn't swing about as I walk.. The only downside, occasionally the net bag gets velcroed too but it pulls off. Peter turn mailhot into hotmail to reply Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharl...ers/index.html |
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I use the magnet clip too. Once in awhile it pops off going thru brush but not a big problem. For nets this is the second year I ve used a rubberized one. There are two advantages. It s easier on the fish and if you are using a double rig or the fish spits the hook in the net the hooks dont get snagged in the net. It s a little more expensive but well worth it MT |
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"Peter Charles" wrote in message ... On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 23:58:42 GMT, Ken Fortenberry wrote: How do you carry a net ? Carried at the back of my neck from a D-ring, handle down, on a small plastic clip that pops off as needed. The handle has a french clip that is attached to a 1" elastic strap that serves as a lanyard. The elastic strap is attached at the other end to the same D-ring. I just clip mine to the d-ring at the back of my neck. For most fish, I find the elastic the net hangs on is stretchy enough that I can pull the net forward under my left arm and use it at almost full arm's length. If I feel like I have a big fish on, I can reach behind my head and unclip the net. The worst part is hiking through brush, as the net often gets snagged when I'm ducking under a branch or something. --riverman |
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On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 13:29:35 +0100, "riverman"
wrote: "Peter Charles" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 23:58:42 GMT, Ken Fortenberry wrote: How do you carry a net ? Carried at the back of my neck from a D-ring, handle down, on a small plastic clip that pops off as needed. The handle has a french clip that is attached to a 1" elastic strap that serves as a lanyard. The elastic strap is attached at the other end to the same D-ring. I just clip mine to the d-ring at the back of my neck. For most fish, I find the elastic the net hangs on is stretchy enough that I can pull the net forward under my left arm and use it at almost full arm's length. If I feel like I have a big fish on, I can reach behind my head and unclip the net. The worst part is hiking through brush, as the net often gets snagged when I'm ducking under a branch or something. --riverman The veclro and elastic strap keep it from bouncing around and snagging stuff. Peter turn mailhot into hotmail to reply Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharl...ers/index.html |
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Ken How do you carry a net ? My net has a fairly long rubber cord attached to the handle. I carry the net on my left side, at the height of my hip so that the rubber cord crosses my chest (the upper part of the rubber cord loop is on my right shoulder). I guess this is an ancient method, but it's not too bad. The net will of course get tangled to all sorts of bushes, but I can easily remove it from obstacles since the handle tends to be where my left hand is. I can also easily carry the net in my left hand if I pass difficult terrain. This method wouldn't probably work if I had to climb a lot among bushes. I've never tried those fancier locking systems. -- Jarmo Hurri Commercial email countermeasures included in header email address. Remove all garbage from header email address when replying, or just use . |
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I simply use one of those oversize zinger thingies clipped to a D-ring on the
backsrap of my chest pack. I chose a zinger with a weak return spring, so that if the net does get caught in the brush, it won't whack me if it suddenly breaks free. Thhe net hangs close to my back, and doesn't often get snagged. If I am fishing light, using a small hip pack, I will sometimes attatch the net to the belt that holds the pack, but most of the time, on "light" days, I will be fishing small streams for small fish, and will not bother with the net at all. George Adams "All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of youth that doth not grow stale with age." ---- J.W Muller |
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Ken Fortenberry wrote in
: lid Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly Willi's thread Some C&R Information spawned a related discussion that I think deserves its own thread. I don't carry a net anymore. I know that, in the interest of the fish I plan to C&R, I probably should but it's a pain in the ass. Definately go for the magnetic hook release. It's well worth it. The nylon holder should be slipped around the part of the net that holds the bag, so the handle hangs down. Reach to the small of your back to grab the net. To return it to stow, just get one magnet near the other magnet, and physics does the rest Scott |
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