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Ken Fortenberry June 5th, 2004 10:23 PM

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May he rot in hell.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Tim J. June 6th, 2004 04:16 AM

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
May he rot in hell.


He won't, and he'd forgive you that comment.
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



Ken Fortenberry June 6th, 2004 04:49 AM

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Tim J. wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
May he rot in hell.


He won't, and he'd forgive you that comment.


OK then, a good slow roast in the company of his peers,
Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Stalin & Hitler. I know, I know, he
was too stupid to be in the upper echelon of brutal mass
murderers of the twentieth century but for a second rate
dimbulb he managed to oversee quite the slaughter of
innocents in Central America.

History will not judge him kindly, he was a **** poor
excuse for a human being.

--
Ken Fortenberry


bones June 6th, 2004 05:28 AM

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On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 03:49:45 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Tim J. wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
May he rot in hell.


He won't, and he'd forgive you that comment.


OK then, a good slow roast in the company of his peers,
Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Stalin & Hitler. I know, I know, he
was too stupid to be in the upper echelon of brutal mass
murderers of the twentieth century but for a second rate
dimbulb he managed to oversee quite the slaughter of
innocents in Central America.

History will not judge him kindly, he was a **** poor
excuse for a human being.



....and Special Ed is sadly at it again.... Yeah Lady!!!


Harry Mason
www.Troutflies.com

Dave LaCourse June 6th, 2004 11:33 AM

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Day is done
Gone the sun
From the lakes
From the hills
From the sky
All is well
Safely rest
GOD is nigh




Asadi June 6th, 2004 01:02 PM

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History, sadly to say, is written by the winner.

john

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
.. .
Tim J. wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
May he rot in hell.


He won't, and he'd forgive you that comment.


OK then, a good slow roast in the company of his peers,
Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Stalin & Hitler. I know, I know, he
was too stupid to be in the upper echelon of brutal mass
murderers of the twentieth century but for a second rate
dimbulb he managed to oversee quite the slaughter of
innocents in Central America.

History will not judge him kindly, he was a **** poor
excuse for a human being.

--
Ken Fortenberry




Ken Fortenberry June 6th, 2004 02:37 PM

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Asadi wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
History will not judge him kindly, ...


History, sadly to say, is written by the winner.


Exactly, and neither the Indians nor the Chinese will find
much of anything good to say about him.

--
Ken Fortenberry


George Adams June 6th, 2004 03:20 PM

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From: Ken Fortenberry

Exactly, and neither the Indians nor the Chinese will find
much of anything good to say about him


Typical


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller


Dave LaCourse June 6th, 2004 03:46 PM

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http://www.totalnavy.com/ussreagan.htm

http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/76.htm


d;o)







Tim J. June 6th, 2004 05:17 PM

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
Asadi wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
History will not judge him kindly, ...


History, sadly to say, is written by the winner.


Exactly, and neither the Indians nor the Chinese will find
much of anything good to say about him.


I agree. Neither will Al Qaeda or Momar Quadafi, so there must have been
something wrong with the man.
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



Ken Fortenberry June 6th, 2004 05:37 PM

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Tim J. wrote:

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...

Asadi wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
History will not judge him kindly, ...


History, sadly to say, is written by the winner.


Exactly, and neither the Indians nor the Chinese will find
much of anything good to say about him.



I agree. Neither will Al Qaeda or Momar Quadafi, so there must have been
something wrong with the man.


What was wrong with him was that his visceral beliefs were so
fundamentally flawed. His message, professionally articulated,
was that your government is bad, you don't need it, all America
needs is to trust rich white guys to bust your unions, steal
your pensions, pollute your streams, dirty your air, feed your
children ketchup and it's OK, America. Don't worry, be happy,
because what's good for rich white guys is good for America,
it will all trickle down and you know what ? All we have to do
is work together to get the government off your back and you
too can be a rich white guy !!

And of course, his foreign policy was just a riff on the same
theme. What's good for rich white American guys is good for the
whole world. His was a vision of crony capitalism enforced with
a big stick and he didn't much give a **** about the niceties of
either American or international law when using that stick.

I can't find anything to admire or respect in the public man and
I doubt that history will either. But I suppose I should find
SOMETHING good to say about the private man. They say he never
mistreated a horse.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Wayne Harrison June 6th, 2004 05:54 PM

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote

What's good for rich white American guys is good for the
whole world.


uh, i realize that this is stating the obvious, but i can't help making
the observation that being a rich white american guy does not necessarily
mean that you are incapable of displaying an almost limitless number of
positive characteristics, including a combination thereof that would enable
that person to be a truly great president. it could happen to me, for
instance. true, everyone would have to give me their money and their vote;
but it's doable.
yfitons
wayno (a chicken in every pot; jeffie as veep)



fish.iddx.net June 6th, 2004 06:06 PM

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Could someone please explain to non-americans what this thread is about? And
what does the song "drug store truck drivin' man" got to do with a boat
named after a former republican president?

I'm confused :o/


thank you
Thomas :oÞ




Mark H. Bowen June 6th, 2004 06:07 PM

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
May he rot in hell.



Please say hello to him, for me, when you get there!

Mark


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Ken Fortenberry June 6th, 2004 06:21 PM

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Wayne Harrison wrote:

uh, i realize that this is stating the obvious, but i can't help making
the observation that being a rich white american guy does not necessarily
mean that you are incapable of displaying an almost limitless number of
positive characteristics, including a combination thereof that would enable
that person to be a truly great president. it could happen to me, for
instance. ...


Maybe it's just me, but I don't think "Hey dahlin', what color Mercedes
do you like ?" is gonna cut it as a campaign slogan. Besides, do we
really need ANOTHER womanizing Southern Democrat in the White House ? ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry


David Snedeker June 6th, 2004 06:21 PM

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
m...
Tim J. wrote:

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...

Asadi wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
History will not judge him kindly, ...



Now, now, now, you Lefty. How can you be so ungrateful to a man whom the
average TV watching, Nascar loving, Red blooded chicken-hawk electing
American can find so much to ignore? Come on now, forgive "Dutch."

After all, he WAS the first person elected president to cop the 5th when
asked about his Mafia ties, and he did put 400 Marines into one conveniently
destructible package in Lebanon, and who can forget his behind the scenes
negotiations with the Ayutulas to hold onto the American hostages in Iran
until election night, or for that matter trading arms for hostages in
general, and then there was the illegal drug dealing his folk (and the then
VP) used to fund the wholesale murder of farmers and Indians in El Salvador
and Nicaragua, not to be surpassed by the failure to even offer a budget for
several of his deficit ridden years, or his blatant delusion that he had
been a Navy pilot as well as one of the first to visit a concentration camp,
or even his visit to an SS memorial. He was, after all, the "Great
Communicator."

What the hell is wrong with you Ken? Why can't you just ignore this stuff
and just celebrate what a "Great Communicator" he was. I mean, why aren't
you more attracted to shiny objects? Come on, shed a tear for the Gipper. If
you can do that I'll pretend that John Wayne and "Rocky" were actual war
heroes, that Rock Hudson was a ladies man and that Cheney and Haliburton
have our soldier's best interests in mind. (I'll need a bottle of Blue
Sapphire to choke down that last one.)

Dave
Ideology Sucks



Ken Fortenberry June 6th, 2004 06:23 PM

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fish.iddx.net wrote:
Could someone please explain to non-americans what this thread is about? And
what does the song "drug store truck drivin' man" got to do with a boat
named after a former republican president?

I'm confused :o/


Joan Baez dedicated the song in the Subject: of this thread to then
governor of California Ronny Raygun and changed a few of the lyrics
to suit the dedication during its performance at an event called
Woodstock. The loathing of Ronny has a long history in America,
despite what many Europeans may think of us.

--
Ken Fortenberry


riverman June 6th, 2004 06:41 PM

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
m...
fish.iddx.net wrote:
Could someone please explain to non-americans what this thread is about?

And
what does the song "drug store truck drivin' man" got to do with a boat
named after a former republican president?

I'm confused :o/


Joan Baez dedicated the song in the Subject: of this thread to then
governor of California Ronny Raygun and changed a few of the lyrics
to suit the dedication during its performance at an event called
Woodstock. The loathing of Ronny has a long history in America,
despite what many Europeans may think of us.



At Woodstock, Joan Baez and Jeffrey Shurtleff sang "Drug Store Truck Driving
Man to the Governor of California-- "Ronald Ray Guns."


He's a Drugstore Truck Drivin' Man
he's a drugstore truck drivin' man
he' s the head of the Ku Klux Klan
when summer rolls around
he'll be lucky if he's not in town
he's got him a house on the hill
he plays country records till you've had your fill
he's a farmer's friend He's an unhappy gent
but he sure does make difference from the records he plays

well he don't like the young folks I know
he told me one night on his radio show
he's got him a medal he won in the war
weighs five hundred pounds and sleeps on his floor
he's been like a father to me
he's the only DJ, you can hear after three
I'm an all night musician in a rock 'n' roll band
and why he don't like me I can't understand



Hey, I have all the current mess in Kinshasa to thank him (and JFK) for. In
fact, at this moment, in the background on BBC radio is an interview with
some professor explaining why no one in DRC cares that he has died. They
take Voodoo seriously here.

---riverman



riverman June 6th, 2004 06:47 PM

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"riverman" wrote in message
...

Here's a better set of lyrics.

DRUG STORE TRUCK DRIVING' MAN
by Joan Baez featuring Jeffrey Shurtleff

He's a drug store truck drivin' man
And he's a head of the Ku Klux Klan
When summer comes rollin' around
We'll be lucky to get out of town
He's been like a father to me
He's like the only DJ you can hear after three
And I'm an all right singer in a country band
And if he don't like me
He don't understand
He's a drug store truck drivin' man
He's a head of the Ku Klux Klan
When summer comes rollin' around
We'll be lucky to get out of town
He's got him a house on the hill
And he can play, country records till you've had your fill
And he's a law man' friend
He's an all night DJ
Sure don't think much like the records he plays
He's a drug store truck drivin' man
He's a head of the Ku Klux Klan
When summer comes rollin' around
We'll be lucky to get out of town
He don't like resistance I know
And he said it last night on a big TV show
And he's got him a medal
That he won in the war
Weights 500 pounds and it sleeps by the door
He's a drug store truck drivin' man
He's a head of the Ku Klux Klan
When summer comes rollin' around
We'll be lucky to get out of town
We'll be lucky to get out of town



rw June 6th, 2004 07:04 PM

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I was never a fan of Reagan nor his politics, to put it mildly, but it
seems to me that to gloat over his death reveals a serious character flaw.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

rw June 6th, 2004 07:06 PM

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riverman wrote:

Hey, I have all the current mess in Kinshasa to thank him (and JFK) for.


Don't you think that the mobs, the guys firing guns and the corrupt
local politicians deserve a certain amount of blame?

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

bones June 6th, 2004 07:28 PM

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On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 12:04:26 -0600, rw
wrote:

I was never a fan of Reagan nor his politics, to put it mildly, but it
seems to me that to gloat over his death reveals a serious character flaw.



Yup. Old Special Ed could not even wait for the poor SOB it reach
ambient temperature before he began ****ing on dead mans slippers.
Real sport that Special Ed and stylish too.
As for a flaw, well not much there to **** up...

" Yeah ! Yeah! Yeah Lady!"




Harry Mason
www.Troutflies.com

riverman June 6th, 2004 07:30 PM

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"rw" wrote in message
m...
riverman wrote:

Hey, I have all the current mess in Kinshasa to thank him (and JFK) for.


Don't you think that the mobs, the guys firing guns and the corrupt
local politicians deserve a certain amount of blame?


Oh, well maybe some. And I bet a solid argument could be made that all the
Mbote leeches who come here to make tax-free money and be in the top 1% of
the economic pig-pile being contributes, too. But I was just quoting the guy
on BBC.

--riverman



slenon June 6th, 2004 08:31 PM

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David Snedeker:
and who can forget his behind the scenes
negotiations with the Ayutulas to hold onto the American hostages in Iran
until election night, or for that matter trading arms for hostages in
general,


That is the single most contemptible thing I can recall happening on "his
watch." Keeping U.S. troops in foreign captivity for political gain is
inexcusable.

Still, the man died a horrid death, robbed of dignity, self-awareness, and
even the ability to ask for comfort. I'd not wish that on anyone nor find
sufficient hatred in my heart to demean someone who died of Alzheimers in
the manner seen at the beginning of this thread.

--
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Dark Star

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm




Tim J. June 6th, 2004 09:02 PM

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"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
om...

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote

What's good for rich white American guys is good for the
whole world.


uh, i realize that this is stating the obvious, but i can't help making
the observation that being a rich white american guy does not necessarily
mean that you are incapable of displaying an almost limitless number of
positive characteristics, including a combination thereof that would enable
that person to be a truly great president. it could happen to me, for
instance. true, everyone would have to give me their money and their vote;
but it's doable.
yfitons
wayno (a chicken in every pot; jeffie as veep)


PJ as Secretary of Defense?
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



Tim J. June 6th, 2004 09:08 PM

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
The loathing of Ronny has a long history in America,


.. . .about 1/2 of 'em, to be more precise.

Well, enough of this wiping the **** off of the corpse of a great man. EOT for
me.
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



Wayne Harrison June 6th, 2004 09:12 PM

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"Tim J." wrote in message
news:KLKwc.14684$Sw.9048@attbi_s51...

"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
om...

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote

What's good for rich white American guys is good for the
whole world.


uh, i realize that this is stating the obvious, but i can't help

making
the observation that being a rich white american guy does not

necessarily
mean that you are incapable of displaying an almost limitless number of
positive characteristics, including a combination thereof that would

enable
that person to be a truly great president. it could happen to me, for
instance. true, everyone would have to give me their money and their

vote;
but it's doable.
yfitons
wayno (a chicken in every pot; jeffie as veep)


PJ as Secretary of Defense?


why do you hate america?

yfitons
wayno



Ken Fortenberry June 6th, 2004 11:29 PM

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bones wrote:
rw wrote:
I was never a fan of Reagan nor his politics, to put it mildly, but it
seems to me that to gloat over his death reveals a serious character flaw.


snip
As for a flaw, well not much there to **** up...


This passing reveals a serious character flaw alright, but the
character flaw isn't in those who refuse to forgive and forget
a war criminal and mass murderer who should have spent the last
twenty years in a jail cell. The serious character flaw here is
national in scope and red, white & blue to the core.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Herman Nijland June 6th, 2004 11:51 PM

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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
fish.iddx.net wrote:

Could someone please explain to non-americans what this thread is
about? And
what does the song "drug store truck drivin' man" got to do with a boat
named after a former republican president?

I'm confused :o/



Joan Baez dedicated the song in the Subject: of this thread to then
governor of California Ronny Raygun and changed a few of the lyrics
to suit the dedication during its performance at an event called
Woodstock. The loathing of Ronny has a long history in America,
despite what many Europeans may think of us.


O, I knew that.. I still have some Dead Kennedy's records gathering dust
somewhere.

--
Herman

George Cleveland June 7th, 2004 01:28 AM

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On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 21:23:32 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

May he rot in hell.



De mortuis nil nisi bonum


g.c.



Wolfgang June 7th, 2004 02:09 AM

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
m...
May he rot in hell.


O.k., so, I read this about 24 hours ago. "What", thinks I, "another Nascar
driver or "country music" boy has bit the big one? So?".

So......we're on the way to Burlington this morning to talk to Becky's mom
about a screened porch she might want us to build. We stop at a convenience
store so Becky can get a cup of coffee and the Sunday Journal/Sentinel.

"Well.....**** fahr", quoth she.

"What?" says I.

"Dead", she responds.

"Hm..........who?", I wonder aloud.

"Reagan"

"Which one?"

"Ronbo".

"Ah!" thinks I......maybe that's what Kennie had in mind. Current events
were never exactly his strong suit (safe guess, that......there IS no strong
suit).

O.k........so.......the man has been dead for about 32 years. And NOW it's
news? Goddamn, people, don't ya'll have ANYTHING to think about?

Wolfgang
yogurt was definitely right.



Wolfgang June 7th, 2004 02:27 AM

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"riverman" wrote in message
...

Hey, I have all the current mess in Kinshasa to thank him (and JFK) for.

In
fact, at this moment, in the background on BBC radio is an interview with
some professor explaining why no one in DRC cares that he has died. They
take Voodoo seriously here.


Hm.......I confess that I have my own reservations about Voodoo.......still,
it's hard to take Oswald as lone assassin very seriously.

Wolfgang



Wolfgang June 7th, 2004 02:32 AM

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"rw" wrote in message
m...
I was never a fan of Reagan nor his politics, to put it mildly, but it
seems to me that to gloat over his death reveals a serious character flaw.


Well......yeah.....but then, anything that doesn't highlight your own
sharing nature is a serious character flaw.

Wolfgang
who hastens to add (probably too late) that you probably shouldn't read
this........but then, the warning is probably superfluous, ainna?



Wolfgang June 7th, 2004 02:41 AM

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"riverman" wrote in message
...

"rw" wrote in message
m...
riverman wrote:

Hey, I have all the current mess in Kinshasa to thank him (and JFK)

for.

Don't you think that the mobs, the guys firing guns and the corrupt
local politicians deserve a certain amount of blame?


Oh, well maybe some. And I bet a solid argument could be made that all the
Mbote leeches who come here to make tax-free money and be in the top 1% of
the economic pig-pile being contributes, too. But I was just quoting the

guy
on BBC.


Have you ever wondered whether there is ANYTHING that Stevie wouldn't step
in.......and then pick up and stuff in his mouth? I have.

Wolfgang
have you ever wondered why the boy just WILL NOT learn? i have.



Ken Fortenberry June 7th, 2004 03:25 PM

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Jeeves wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
May he rot in hell.


http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=336&row=0


Excellent ! Best Ronny obit I've read yet.

--
Ken Fortenberry


riverman June 7th, 2004 03:53 PM

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"Jeeves" wrote in message
s.com...
Ken Fortenberry wrote in
m:

May he rot in hell.


http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=336&row=0


Very interesting. Also see:
http://www.cruel.com/discuss/viewMessage.php/94357
http://secure.mediaresearch.org/news...9890201p6.html
http://www.insightmag.com/news/2001/...n-150526.shtml

Or if you want a really radical point of view, try PBS... the Public
Broadcasting Network!
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/reagan/...s/pande06.html

No doubt that he was divisive. The Haves and the Have-Nots. If you were one
of 'his', you loved him. If you weren't, you despised him. To me, that alone
was enough to discredit him from ever being a great president.

I'm sorry for Nancy and her grief, but I suspect that she was is oblivious
to any pain or grief his policies caused to countless Central Americans.
Sorry for ****ing on a dead man's slippers, but just because he is dead does
not forgive his policies or atrocities. This isn't pro ball or boxing where
you shake the hand of the competitor and go away to face next Sunday: this
was real-life and a lot of people suffered or died because of him. In fact,
more than ever, its time to NOT let the pro-Reagan camp whitewash history.

--riverman




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