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SJinny1 June 9th, 2004 09:13 PM

in memorium
 
Hi Barry:

I'm new to the internet and splashing around without a "net". Seeking to
price and sell my late husband's prized gear. You made me cry. Seems all
fly fishermen are nice folk. Dont know how I got into this newsgroup and am
sure I will never find it again so be consoled by the knowledge that your
dad survived and enjoyed his long life. My Bill died in 1991 at 62 and that
was shattering. I am now 72. Best wishes to you and your brother and
families.
From: "Barry"
Subject: In Memorium...
Date: June 6, 2004 8:05 PM

Today, at 8:15 a.m., my father, Ron Brown, died at 85 years of age in my
arms after a lengthy battle with congestive heart failure. I post this so
that those of you who have had the chance to fish with him or know him, will
be aware. My dad moved to Eureka, CA after WWII expressly for the fly
fishing opportunities that he found here. Fly fishing was his passion and
he quickly adopted the Eel River as "his river". My brother and I, both
raised with fly rods in our hands, spent many hours fishing with my dad and
his friends. My dad fished with the likes of C.Jim Prey, Lloyd Sylvius and
others who plied their skills on the fish of the Pacific Northcoast. Aside
from being an honest, hard working man, my father passed along to his two
sons the love of fly fishing. His ashes will be scattered in his favorite
stream and I will use his favorite fly rod to throw a long line into the
waters. We will miss his wit, charm and love but the lessons he taught all
who knew him will live on.

For those who did not know my father, please treasure those moments with
your own dad for time passes so very quickly.

His loving son
Barry




riverman June 9th, 2004 10:42 PM

in memorium
 

"SJinny1" wrote in message
. ..
Hi Barry:

I'm new to the internet and splashing around without a "net". Seeking to
price and sell my late husband's prized gear. You made me cry. Seems all
fly fishermen are nice folk. Dont know how I got into this newsgroup and

am
sure I will never find it again so be consoled by the knowledge that your
dad survived and enjoyed his long life. My Bill died in 1991 at 62 and

that
was shattering. I am now 72. Best wishes to you and your brother and
families.


Hi Jinny:
Nah, all flyfisherman aren't really so nice, at least not on the internet.
You apparently haven't met our friends Forty or Wolfie. But in real life,
flyfishermen can be some of the biggest-hearted folks I've ever met.

If you are looking to price and sell some of your late husband's gear, there
are a couple of ways to go about it. One way would be to list it on Ebay, or
have a friend help you do that. Another would for you to tell us what you
have, let several knowledgeable folks here discuss the value online, and
then anyone interested in buying could email you directly and arrange the
details.

The problem is that gear isn't always so easy to describe unless you are
familar with the details. You might not be able to tell the weight of the
rod, the condition of the reels, or the quality or type of line, etc. You
will almost certainly have to find someone who is a fly fisherman and have
them look at the gear for you.

But in the meantime, we can tell you a bit about it, if you want to tell us
what you have. Just give all the information you can; anything that's
written on the rods, the cases, the nets, the vest, etc. We might be able to
give you a general idea, but you should certainly follow it up with a
visit to a fly shop for more detailed estimates.

Good luck, and why haven't you considered taking up flyfishing at 72? :-)

--riverman



Wolfgang June 10th, 2004 12:15 AM

in memorium
 

"riverman" wrote in message
...

"SJinny1" wrote in message
. ..
Hi Barry:

I'm new to the internet and splashing around without a "net". Seeking

to
price and sell my late husband's prized gear. You made me cry. Seems

all
fly fishermen are nice folk. Dont know how I got into this newsgroup and

am
sure I will never find it again so be consoled by the knowledge that

your
dad survived and enjoyed his long life. My Bill died in 1991 at 62 and

that
was shattering. I am now 72. Best wishes to you and your brother and
families.


Hi Jinny:
Nah, all flyfisherman aren't really so nice, at least not on the internet.
You apparently haven't met our friends Forty or Wolfie. But in real life,
flyfishermen can be some of the biggest-hearted folks I've ever met.



Jinny;

Sounds like your Bill is still with you. Keep him there.

Assuming you have found your way back here, I apologize on my own behalf and
for anyone else who may be interested for the fact that you've been
introduced to our own little internal squabbles for God knows what reason.

Wolfgang



Wayne Harrison June 10th, 2004 12:20 AM

in memorium
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

"riverman" wrote in message
...

"SJinny1" wrote in message
. ..
Hi Barry:

I'm new to the internet and splashing around without a "net".

Seeking
to
price and sell my late husband's prized gear. You made me cry. Seems

all
fly fishermen are nice folk. Dont know how I got into this newsgroup

and
am
sure I will never find it again so be consoled by the knowledge that

your
dad survived and enjoyed his long life. My Bill died in 1991 at 62

and
that
was shattering. I am now 72. Best wishes to you and your brother and
families.


Hi Jinny:
Nah, all flyfisherman aren't really so nice, at least not on the

internet.
You apparently haven't met our friends Forty or Wolfie. But in real

life,
flyfishermen can be some of the biggest-hearted folks I've ever met.



Jinny;

Sounds like your Bill is still with you. Keep him there.

Assuming you have found your way back here, I apologize on my own behalf

and
for anyone else who may be interested for the fact that you've been
introduced to our own little internal squabbles for God knows what reason.

Wolfgang


see, it's little insights like this that reinforce my belief that you
are the way i know you to be in real life. and the same can be said for
others, doncha know.

yfitons
wayno





Deggie \LiesAlot-JustLikeMyIdol\ Jackson June 10th, 2004 06:45 AM

in memorium
 
In article ,
"riverman" wrote:

Hi Jinny:
Nah, all flyfisherman aren't really so nice, at least not on the internet.
You apparently haven't met our friends Forty or Wolfie.


Why are they such assholes?? Someone must of raped them when they were
kids to make them such ****ed up people.

Wayne Harrison June 10th, 2004 12:25 PM

in memorium
 

"Deggie "LiesAlot-JustLikeMyIdol" Jackson" wrote in
message ...
In article ,
"riverman" wrote:

Hi Jinny:
Nah, all flyfisherman aren't really so nice, at least not on the

internet.
You apparently haven't met our friends Forty or Wolfie.


Why are they such assholes?? Someone must of raped them when they were
kids to make them such ****ed up people.


well, i don't know about wolfgang's situation; but according to
eyewitnesses, the entire affair in forty's case was definitely consensual.

hth

wayno



Warren June 10th, 2004 12:40 PM

in memorium
 
wrote...

"Deggie "LiesAlot-JustLikeMyIdol" Jackson" wrote in
message ...
In article ,
"riverman" wrote:

Hi Jinny:
Nah, all flyfisherman aren't really so nice, at least not on the

internet.
You apparently haven't met our friends Forty or Wolfie.


Why are they such assholes?? Someone must of raped them when they were
kids to make them such ****ed up people.


well, i don't know about wolfgang's situation; but according to
eyewitnesses, the entire affair in forty's case was definitely consensual.

hth

wayno


What's really sad is that the cycle continues..... ROFF reaps what
it sows. :-(

Deggie, I'll speak up for riverman (whom I have never met) and Ken
whom I have met. They are both damn good people IMO. I won't speak
for Wolfgang because I am biased, but I wouldn't argue with someone
who claimed he had at least one redeeming quality. Jeff Miller
wouldn't steer me wrong and that's all I have to go by, but that's
enough for me.

ROFF is a battlefield and you just have to avoid the mines to get to
the good ****.
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt on earthlink dot net to respond via email)
Clave Info:
http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt...nConclave.html

Tim J. June 10th, 2004 01:30 PM

in memorium
 

"Warren" wrote...
wrote...
"Deggie wrote...
"riverman" wrote:

Hi Jinny:
Nah, all flyfisherman aren't really so nice, at least not on the

internet.
You apparently haven't met our friends Forty or Wolfie.

Why are they such assholes?? Someone must of raped them when they were
kids to make them such ****ed up people.


well, i don't know about wolfgang's situation; but according to
eyewitnesses, the entire affair in forty's case was definitely consensual.


What's really sad is that the cycle continues..... ROFF reaps what
it sows. :-(

Deggie, I'll speak up for riverman (whom I have never met) and Ken
whom I have met. They are both damn good people IMO. I won't speak
for Wolfgang because I am biased, but I wouldn't argue with someone
who claimed he had at least one redeeming quality. Jeff Miller
wouldn't steer me wrong and that's all I have to go by, but that's
enough for me.

ROFF is a battlefield and you just have to avoid the mines to get to
the good ****.


When you're scraping it off your shoes, how can you tell the good from the bad?
:)
--
TL,
Tim
(Answer: It's all good.)
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



Wolfgang June 10th, 2004 01:34 PM

in memorium
 

"Warren" wrote in message
...
wrote...

"Deggie "LiesAlot-JustLikeMyIdol" Jackson"

wrote in
message

...
In article ,
"riverman" wrote:

Hi Jinny:
Nah, all flyfisherman aren't really so nice, at least not on

the
internet.
You apparently haven't met our friends Forty or Wolfie.

Why are they such assholes?? Someone must of raped them when

they were
kids to make them such ****ed up people.


well, i don't know about wolfgang's situation; but according

to
eyewitnesses, the entire affair in forty's case was definitely

consensual.

hth

wayno


What's really sad is that the cycle continues..... ROFF reaps what
it sows. :-(

Deggie, I'll speak up for riverman (whom I have never met) and Ken
whom I have met. They are both damn good people IMO. I won't speak
for Wolfgang because I am biased, but I wouldn't argue with someone
who claimed he had at least one redeeming quality. Jeff Miller
wouldn't steer me wrong and that's all I have to go by, but that's
enough for me.

ROFF is a battlefield and you just have to avoid the mines to get to
the good ****.


BANG! Dang, lost another foot! :(

Wolfgang
who, had anyone asked, would have guessed a mine field instructor who
teaches by demonstrating exactly what NOT to do would have had a much
shorter career, and who is tempted to say, "nice work, deggie", but
then, it ain't exactly a demanding job, is it?



Jeff June 10th, 2004 07:59 PM

in memorium
 


Tim J. wrote:


ROFF is a battlefield and you just have to avoid the mines to get to
the good ****.



When you're scraping it off your shoes, how can you tell the good from the bad?
:)


the good scrapes off easily and doesn't smell or linger... the bad,
well, you'll know it sure enough...

jeff


bassrecord June 11th, 2004 09:07 AM

in memorium
 
Hi Jenny,
I may not know your Bill. But I know of Barry's father. He fly fished with
a group of great guys on the Eel, Klamath, Mad, Trinity and Smith rivers in
Northern California and passed on a wealth of knowledge and a sense of
conservation of the natural resource for future generations. Although I
never met Ron Brown I heard of him and his fly fishing buddies. If you get
a chance to go to the library, check out "Steelhead Fly Fishing" by Trey
Combs. In his book he describes the pioneering work done by Jim Prey, Lloyd
Sylvius and others which included Barry's Dad, Ron Brown.

And Jenny they passed it on to the younger generation. So I bet your Bill
passed it on also. Fly Fishermen are that way.

Best wishes.
John

"SJinny1" wrote in message
. ..
Hi Barry:

I'm new to the internet and splashing around without a "net". Seeking to
price and sell my late husband's prized gear. You made me cry. Seems all
fly fishermen are nice folk. Dont know how I got into this newsgroup and

am
sure I will never find it again so be consoled by the knowledge that your
dad survived and enjoyed his long life. My Bill died in 1991 at 62 and

that
was shattering. I am now 72. Best wishes to you and your brother and
families.
From: "Barry"
Subject: In Memorium...
Date: June 6, 2004 8:05 PM

Today, at 8:15 a.m., my father, Ron Brown, died at 85 years of age in my
arms after a lengthy battle with congestive heart failure. I post this so
that those of you who have had the chance to fish with him or know him,

will
be aware. My dad moved to Eureka, CA after WWII expressly for the fly
fishing opportunities that he found here. Fly fishing was his passion and
he quickly adopted the Eel River as "his river". My brother and I, both
raised with fly rods in our hands, spent many hours fishing with my dad

and
his friends. My dad fished with the likes of C.Jim Prey, Lloyd Sylvius

and
others who plied their skills on the fish of the Pacific Northcoast.

Aside
from being an honest, hard working man, my father passed along to his two
sons the love of fly fishing. His ashes will be scattered in his favorite
stream and I will use his favorite fly rod to throw a long line into the
waters. We will miss his wit, charm and love but the lessons he taught

all
who knew him will live on.

For those who did not know my father, please treasure those moments with
your own dad for time passes so very quickly.

His loving son
Barry






Barry June 11th, 2004 09:55 PM

in memorium
 
John...

Thank you for the nice words about my dad's generation. Sometimes we (and I
include myself) lose sight of what is most important. For anyone who ever
watched "A River Runs Through It" or read the book, that was how my brother
and I were raised. My dad, while far from being a minister, none-the-less
taught us a lot about life through fly fishing. There are parallels if you
look for them. I can still remember my visits to Lloyd Sylvius' fly shop on
Harris Street in Eureka. He and my dad would talk for hours about fly line
tapers (Lloyd was way ahead of the industry in terms of building compound
tapers) and sometimes embellished fish stories. My dad was devastated by
what was done to "his river", the Eel River. It will never be the river
that he once fished...but then again, there are few that have not been
hammered ecologically by man. I now live on the banks of the Smith
River...not because it's the easiest river to fish with a fly (for it is
not) but because it's Federally protected and designated as a "Wild and
Scenic River". I will figure out how best to use a fly to legitimately
catch its salmon and steelhead. It will take awhile as I am relatively new
to this river. I will study it as my dad taught me to study rivers...and I
will learn. With luck, this river will continue to be protected....at least
during my lifetime. I worry about the generations to come, however. The
ever increasing demand for fresh water has already placed the future of the
Smith River on the chopping block. I look at what happened to the Klamath
River not too long ago...and realize what can happen when enough political
pressure is used. It scares me.

I have yet to go fly fishing since my dad died on June 6th. I'm aware that
he wants me to continue with his legacy...but as I look around my den, all I
can see are photos, rods, reels, fly tying equipment and so many things that
I associate with my dad. I fished with him for over fifty years and while
the memories are all good, right now, they are painful....for I will never
hear that familiar holler when he hooked onto a big steelhead. For him,
that was the king of fish for the fly fisher. He also refused to use a reel
that did not have a paul drag system, choosing his old Hardy reels over any
of the new ones. He loved the sound of the noisy reels as a steelhead took
out line. My dad...even in his 80's could throw a longer line than most fly
fishers half his age.

It's going to feel strange to go it alone in spite of the fact that I'm a
bit long in tooth myself. However, I suspect that I will still hear my
dad's laughter when I slop a cast...or miss a strike. His laughter, sense
of humor and love of fly fishing and life will not be forgotten.

If there is anyone still in the Group who is of my dad's generation, I'd
love to hear from you.

John, thank you again for your warm words. It is appreciated more than you
know.

Barry


"bassrecord" wrote in message
...
Hi Jenny,
I may not know your Bill. But I know of Barry's father. He fly fished

with
a group of great guys on the Eel, Klamath, Mad, Trinity and Smith rivers

in
Northern California and passed on a wealth of knowledge and a sense of
conservation of the natural resource for future generations. Although I
never met Ron Brown I heard of him and his fly fishing buddies. If you

get
a chance to go to the library, check out "Steelhead Fly Fishing" by Trey
Combs. In his book he describes the pioneering work done by Jim Prey,

Lloyd
Sylvius and others which included Barry's Dad, Ron Brown.

And Jenny they passed it on to the younger generation. So I bet your Bill
passed it on also. Fly Fishermen are that way.

Best wishes.
John

"SJinny1" wrote in message
. ..
Hi Barry:

I'm new to the internet and splashing around without a "net". Seeking

to
price and sell my late husband's prized gear. You made me cry. Seems

all
fly fishermen are nice folk. Dont know how I got into this newsgroup and

am
sure I will never find it again so be consoled by the knowledge that

your
dad survived and enjoyed his long life. My Bill died in 1991 at 62 and

that
was shattering. I am now 72. Best wishes to you and your brother and
families.
From: "Barry"
Subject: In Memorium...
Date: June 6, 2004 8:05 PM

Today, at 8:15 a.m., my father, Ron Brown, died at 85 years of age in my
arms after a lengthy battle with congestive heart failure. I post this

so
that those of you who have had the chance to fish with him or know him,

will
be aware. My dad moved to Eureka, CA after WWII expressly for the fly
fishing opportunities that he found here. Fly fishing was his passion

and
he quickly adopted the Eel River as "his river". My brother and I, both
raised with fly rods in our hands, spent many hours fishing with my dad

and
his friends. My dad fished with the likes of C.Jim Prey, Lloyd Sylvius

and
others who plied their skills on the fish of the Pacific Northcoast.

Aside
from being an honest, hard working man, my father passed along to his

two
sons the love of fly fishing. His ashes will be scattered in his

favorite
stream and I will use his favorite fly rod to throw a long line into the
waters. We will miss his wit, charm and love but the lessons he taught

all
who knew him will live on.

For those who did not know my father, please treasure those moments with
your own dad for time passes so very quickly.

His loving son
Barry









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