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fly fishers as elitists
so the guys i work with in the campus library have been teasing me about fly
fishin, saying that now i won't hang out with the "regular" fisherman anymore, and that i'll start fishin with the upper echelon of the university, and will start wearing tweed........ and other **** like that. what gives? ya'll got a reputation or somethin? ;-) snakefiddler |
fly fishers as elitists
snakefiddler wrote:
so the guys i work with in the campus library have been teasing me about fly fishin, saying that now i won't hang out with the "regular" fisherman anymore, and that i'll start fishin with the upper echelon of the university, and will start wearing tweed....... You'd better stay away from the tweed and stick to dildos, thongs and bikinis if you want to keep these old lechers interested in your tyro escapades. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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"snakefiddler" wrote in message ... what gives? ya'll got a reputation or somethin? ;-) only me and kenny, we're elititists, the rest of y'all are just average joes and joesephines. |
fly fishers as elitists
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
snakefiddler wrote: so the guys i work with in the campus library have been teasing me about fly fishin, saying that now i won't hang out with the "regular" fisherman anymore, and that i'll start fishin with the upper echelon of the university, and will start wearing tweed....... You'd better stay away from the tweed and stick to dildos, thongs and bikinis if you want to keep these old lechers interested in your tyro escapades. As you know, Ken, I loathe you, but I have to admit that's pretty good. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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Hell yea. It's actually not so bad here, but 8 times out of 10 I walk into
any of my local flyshops... sheesh. what gives? ya'll got a reputation or somethin? ;-) snakefiddler |
fly fishers as elitists
I'll tell you what, snakefiddler: Catching fish is pretty easy when you
will stoop to any damn method -- worms, power bait, minnows, roe sacks, spinners, dynamite, bleach, whatever it takes. Flyfishing is altogether different. After you've put in your dues, which takes years, you'll sometimes outfish the lower classes and always have more fun and satisfaction in the doing. Until you understand that, you are not a flyfisherwoman. Tell your poaching, meat fishing, bait slinging coworkers to go **** themselves. :-) -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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rw wrote:
I'll tell you what, snakefiddler: Catching fish is pretty easy when you will stoop to any damn method -- worms, power bait, minnows, roe sacks, spinners, dynamite, bleach, whatever it takes. Flyfishing is altogether different. After you've put in your dues, which takes years, you'll sometimes outfish the lower classes and always have more fun and satisfaction in the doing. Until you understand that, you are not a flyfisherwoman. Tell your poaching, meat fishing, bait slinging coworkers to go **** themselves. :-) Well said. Chas remove fly fish to reply http://home.comcast.net/~chas.wade/w...ome.html-.html San Juan Pictures at: http://home.comcast.net/~chasepike/wsb/index.html |
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"Chas Wade" wrote in message news:9bxyc.85348$Ly.17518@attbi_s01... rw wrote: I'll tell you what, snakefiddler: Catching fish is pretty easy when you will stoop to any damn method -- worms, power bait, minnows, roe sacks, spinners, dynamite, bleach, whatever it takes. Flyfishing is altogether different. of this i have no doubt. After you've put in your dues, which takes years, glad i got a lot of em ahead you'll sometimes outfish the lower classes and always have more fun and satisfaction in the doing. Until you understand that, having already experienced the challenge of the basics, i can understand why you would make that statement- and i look forward to the day that i can boast competency, much less great skill. meanwhile i will take my satisfaction in the learning process, the occasional catch, and the wonderful experiences surrounding the activity. you are not a flyfisherwoman. ah, have no doubt, r.w.- i'm on my way Tell your poaching, meat fishing, bait slinging coworkers to go **** themselves. :-) snakefiddler http://home.comcast.net/~chas.wade/w...ome.html-.html San Juan Pictures at: http://home.comcast.net/~chasepike/wsb/index.html |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message .. . snakefiddler wrote: so the guys i work with in the campus library have been teasing me about fly fishin, saying that now i won't hang out with the "regular" fisherman anymore, and that i'll start fishin with the upper echelon of the university, and will start wearing tweed....... You'd better stay away from the tweed and stick to dildos, thongs and bikinis if you want to keep these old lechers interested in your tyro escapades. come on forty- give the rest of the guys more credit than you give yourself......... hey, kennie, will i get a chance to fish with you in october? i'll looking forward as HELL to meeting you...... you know, one of those morbid curiosity things :) snakaefiddler -- Ken Fortenberry |
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rw wrote:
I'll tell you what, snakefiddler: Catching fish is pretty easy when you will stoop to any damn method -- worms, power bait, minnows, roe sacks, spinners, dynamite, bleach, whatever it takes. Flyfishing is altogether different. After you've put in your dues, which takes years, you'll sometimes outfish the lower classes and always have more fun and satisfaction in the doing. Until you understand that, you are not a flyfisherwoman. Tell your poaching, meat fishing, bait slinging coworkers to go **** themselves. :-) As you know, Steve, I loathe you, but I have to admit that's pretty good. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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"snakefiddler" what gives? ya'll got a reputation or somethin? ;-) snakefiddler kinda.....but I've been trying to keep a low profile and hope it would go away. john |
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"Asadi" wrote in message link.net... "snakefiddler" what gives? ya'll got a reputation or somethin? ;-) snakefiddler kinda.....but I've been trying to keep a low profile and hope it would go away. john yeah, me too ;-) snake |
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rw wrote in message om...
... After you've put in your dues, which takes years, you'll sometimes outfish the lower classes and always have more fun and satisfaction in the doing. Actually, after you've really put in your dues, you eventually get over the rooky impulse to regard anything not fly fishing as somehow inferior. The mature fisherman is a master of all techniques, who chooses, at any given moment, the technique of his (her?) choice. For instance, just yesterday I drifted a stretch brown-colored canyon water, swollen and roilly after three weeks of cold weather and heavy rain. The river was almost empty...most fly fishermen assumed it was hopeless, perhaps. I fished it from a driftboat, using an 8wt rod with a 12' leader with a 40lb butt, attached to a soft, flexible, molded plastic sculpin, a Carolina-rig worm hook, a plastic bead and a Colorado Spinner blade, attached to a plastic clevis. I didn't knock'em dead, but I did catch some very nice fish, casting with pin-point accuracy to obvious eddies and runs....and I did it with a fly rod. One important disadvantage of a spinning rod--in situations like that--is the need to reel the lure all the way back to the rod tip between casts. With the flyrod you can pick the lure up and throw it back down at a distance, so you can pick off each good looking eddy as drift along. It takes experience and mastery to know how to do that. And a lack of silly, irrelevant, immature predudice. :-) |
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"jim crawford" wrote in message ... and what is wrong with tweed may I ask from Edinburgh Scotland Nothing wrong with tweed, good fellow, as long as it's Harris. BTW, the 'fiddler is of the female gender and resides in North Carolina. That, you recall, was the refuge for Flora McDonald in hard times. Uncle Mac McCaskill Proud Scot until the Highland Clearances ;-). |
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"Uncle Mac" wrote in message hlink.net... "jim crawford" wrote in message ... and what is wrong with tweed may I ask from Edinburgh Scotland Nothing wrong with tweed, good fellow, as long as it's Harris. BTW, the 'fiddler is of the female gender and resides in North Carolina. That, you recall, was the refuge for Flora McDonald in hard times. Uncle Mac McCaskill Proud Scot until the Highland Clearances ;-). most excellent tag line ;-) snakefiddler |
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Uncle Mac wrote: Uncle Mac McCaskill Proud Scot until the Highland Clearances ;-). are you any relation to the McCaskills from Troy, Alabama? jeff (1st wife was a mccaskill - as fine a family as i've ever known) |
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"Jeff" wrote in message are you any relation to the McCaskills from Troy, Alabama? jeff (1st wife was a mccaskill - as fine a family as i've ever known) All McCaskills were a sub clan of the McLeods of Skye. Some are still there. Others were dispersed during the clearances to North Carolina, Georgia, Nova Scotia, Australia, and anywhere refugees could settle. I assume Alabama, severly needing "new blood" for breeding purposes, offered several tax advantages for the penniless immigrants ;-). We may be related to the Alabama clan, just several generations removed. |
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In article k.net,
Uncle Mac wrote: Nothing wrong with tweed, good fellow, as long as it's Harris. What's wrong with Donegal? Lazarus -- Remover the rock from the email address |
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"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message om... What's wrong with Donegal? May I get back with you on that? It appears as if I must take a trip to the County Donegal to investigate. BTW, how's the trout fishing in Donegal? I really have to have another reason for going, you know. |
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Uncle Mac wrote: "Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message om... What's wrong with Donegal? May I get back with you on that? It appears as if I must take a trip to the County Donegal to investigate. BTW, how's the trout fishing in Donegal? I really have to have another reason for going, you know. For white trout it's not as good as it was (celebrated in 'A man may fish' and Hugh Falkus's 'Sea trout fishing') , but for summer salmon there's no equal. The river Finn must be one of the most prolific grilse rivers in the British Isles. It also rises in the Bluestack Mountains, one of most deserted and beautiful bits of the island, where I would normally expect people in a bar to be speaking Irish rather than English. don't know why riverman went to Wales. Lazarus. -- Remover the rock from the email address |
WAS tweed my good man? NOW: Is the bet still on???
"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message om... In article . net, Uncle Mac wrote: "Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message om... What's wrong with Donegal? May I get back with you on that? It appears as if I must take a trip to the County Donegal to investigate. BTW, how's the trout fishing in Donegal? I really have to have another reason for going, you know. For white trout it's not as good as it was (celebrated in 'A man may fish' and Hugh Falkus's 'Sea trout fishing') , but for summer salmon there's no equal. The river Finn must be one of the most prolific grilse rivers in the British Isles. It also rises in the Bluestack Mountains, one of most deserted and beautiful bits of the island, where I would normally expect people in a bar to be speaking Irish rather than English. don't know why riverman went to Wales. Lazarus How's Penn's Creek sound end of May next year? November is fast approaching and no sign of Mr. bin Laden yet........ |
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"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message om... don't know why riverman went to Wales. Well, there's always next year! I just hope the Donnegalians aren't as possessive about their salmon fishing as the Welch (not you, Bill). I saw some tremendous rises on the river Wye, but after spending an unsuccessful hour trying to find the owner of the water, I had to give up trying to get permission to fish there. A local store owner told me that I wouldn't have meet their rod length/gear restrictions, or dress code anyway! --riverman |
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In article , riverman
wrote: Well, there's always next year! I just hope the Donnegalians aren't as possessive about their salmon fishing as the Welch (not you, Bill). I saw some tremendous rises on the river Wye, but after spending an unsuccessful hour trying to find the owner of the water, I had to give up trying to get permission to fish there. A local store owner told me that I wouldn't have meet their rod length/gear restrictions, or dress code anyway! My favourite Donegal river, the Finn, forms the border between Northern Ireland (British) & Southern Ireland (Republic) for much of its length. A few wealthy types thought of buying up the rights, but when they realised the political ramifications, decided against. One of the reasons I prefer the fishing in Ireland is that it totally lacks this bloody class distinction of England & Scotland (don't know about Wales). There is no dress code apart from 'wrap up warm and dry' and 'make sure there's a flask of whiskey in your pocket'. Don't forget they book I suggested - 'The Spawning run'. You'll enjoy it even more now you've been to wales. Lazarus -- Remover the rock from the email address |
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"Willi" wrote in message ... Lazarus Cooke wrote: There is no dress code apart from 'wrap up warm and dry' and 'make sure there's a flask of whiskey in your pocket'. I thought your dress code remark was a joke! What type of dress code(s) are there? The guy I saw fishing there had on Wellingtons ('mud boots' to us Ammericuns), knee length pants, a tweed jacket, a tie, one of those NY cabbie hats and a pipe. I asked the store owner if they minded someone dressed in more modern outdoor clothing, and he looked at me (dressed in fishing shirt, pile vest, baseball cap and hiking shoes) and said "Well, the owner of that particular stretch of water prefers folks to dress in the 'traditional' style...." Then I mentioned that I was going to use a 9-foot 8wt rod, and he said "Oh, no, then. It simply must be a two-handed rod, at least 12 feet in length if you want to fish their water.." --riverman |
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wrote: (dressed in fishing shirt, pile vest, baseball cap and hiking shoes) My cousin Alice bought me one of those baseball caps from a fishing store in Colorado as a Christmas present. I tried it, but couldn't see the point. a) it didn't keep the rain off - it was made of cotton. b) it particularly didn't keep the rain off the back of my neck c) It didn't keep salmon flies blown off course from hitting the back of my neck. So I'm still using the technologically superior fur felt hat with a brim all round - or maybe a donegal tweed hat. Those pile jackets are easy to wash, and they'r ehard wearing, but they're not nearly as warm, weight for weight, as wool. So I'm not going to do any dressing up in fancy gear to go fishing. I'll stick with my tweed knickerbockers, jacket, and my felt hat, - maybe a silk tie or cravat to keep my neck warm - and let the yuppies and the fashion vicitms wear their baseball caps and pile vests. Lazarus -- Remover the rock from the email address |
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"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message om... In article , riverman wrote: (dressed in fishing shirt, pile vest, baseball cap and hiking shoes) My cousin Alice bought me one of those baseball caps from a fishing store in Colorado as a Christmas present. I tried it, but couldn't see the point. a) it didn't keep the rain off - it was made of cotton. No hat is the best solution for rain......you want a waterproof jacket with an integral hood for that job. b) it particularly didn't keep the rain off the back of my neck See above....in spades. c) It didn't keep salmon flies blown off course from hitting the back of my neck. Technique is a better solution than technology for this ill. Improved technique also results in other....um...less tangible....benefits. So I'm still using the technologically superior fur felt hat with a brim all round - or maybe a donegal tweed hat. The presumed fact that one item does a particular job better than another doesn't necessarily make it technologically superior. A claw hammer will not shorten a board as cleanly or efficiently as a crosscut saw. A claw hammer is not technologiaclly inferior to a crosscut saw; it's simply less suitable for performing a task it wasn't designed for than is an implement that WAS designed for that task......try driving nails with a crosscut saw some time. I've worn many hats throughout my life. All of them were more suitable for some things than for others. Some of them did nothing well. Others did several things well. I have yet to find anything better suited to the combined tasks of shading the eyes....especially against a low lying sun...., staying on the head in a brisk breeze, and remaining comfortable in warm weather than a good fitting, long billed cotton ball cap. Those pile jackets are easy to wash, and they'r ehard wearing, but they're not nearly as warm, weight for weight, as wool. So I'm not going to do any dressing up in fancy gear to go fishing. I'll stick with my tweed knickerbockers, jacket, and my felt hat, - maybe a silk tie or cravat to keep my neck warm - and let the yuppies and the fashion vicitms wear their baseball caps and pile vests. Throughout my adult life I've experienced a good deal of social angst over the fact that I appeared to be the only person left in the world without a legitimate claim to victimhood. It is good to know that I have, at long last, arrived. Thank you. Wolfgang |
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In article , Willi
wrote: It does make you appreciate the amount of public lands and water we have here in the States. It's something we tend to take for granted. Socialist fishing, private medicine in the states. Other way round in Wales. Why can't those dam Welsh see that fishing is a right, while medicine is a privilege? L -- Remover the rock from the email address |
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