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For Immediate Release June 11,
2004
Bear attacks 18 year old in Standish
STANDISH, Maine -- An 18 year old who was outside taking pictures of a black
bear feeding at a birdfeeder in his backyard was attacked and injured by the
bear yesterday afternoon.

Nick Talbot, of Standish, got within 30 feet of the bear to take pictures of
the it feasting on birdseed. His dog barked at the bear, and that was when
two cubs emerged. Sensing a dangerous situation, Talbot turned to go back
inside, but as he turned, the mother bear charged, closed the distance and
slashed Talbot on the arm. The bear then bared its teeth and snarled.

"It's unbelievable how an animal that big is that fast," Talbot said Friday
to the Associated Press. "She hit me so hard it knocked me to one side." The
injury didn't require any medical treatment. Talbot said he cleaned the
scratch and got a tetanus shot.

Bears this time of year on are on the search for food, and that search often
brings them in contact with humans as they look to feed on bird seed,
garbage, pet food or even raid barbecue grills. They also will attack cattle
or other farm animals.

This is the first nuisance bear complaint this year that involved an injury
to a person, however, in Orono Wednesday night, a bear tried to get into a
house through a window in search of food, damaging the screen window and
vinyl siding. The bear was scared away by the homeowner. Earlier this year,
a bear killed two pigs in Atkinson, and in South Berwick, two sheep were
killed by a bear. Problems such as these occur each spring and early summer
as bears emerge from dens at their lowest weight at a time when natural food
supplies are at their lowest.

Mother bears are also extremely protective of their young, and they will
charge if they feel that they or the cubs are being threatened. If you
encounter a bear while hiking or in your yard, here's what you should do:

* Keep your distance. Make it aware of your presence by
clapping, talking or making other sounds.

* If you see cubs, stay away. Bear cubs are never orphaned by
their mother this time of year. The mother is nearby and is very protective.
Any movement towards the cubs could be seen as an attack, and the mother
will attack you.

* If a bear does not immediately leave after seeing you, the
food may be encouraging it to stay. Remove any sight or smell of foods.
Place food items inside a vehicle or building. Occupy a vehicle or building
until the bear wanders away.

* Black bears will sometimes "bluff charge" when cornered,
threatened or attempting to steal food. Stand your ground and slowly back
away. Don't turn your back to the bear.




Handyman Mike
Standing in a river waving a stick

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"Mike" kirjoitti viestissä
...
For Immediate Release June 11,
2004
Bear attacks 18 year old in Standish
STANDISH, Maine -- An 18 year old who was outside taking pictures of a
black
bear feeding at a birdfeeder in his backyard was attacked and injured by
the
bear yesterday afternoon.


Sad to hear this kind of news. Here the bears are normally dodging people.
But there are some businessmen at northeastern border of Finland who
keep charkas and other baits for bears. There are blinds close to these
and tourists may come to see wild bears feeding out there.
There is a harmful aspect that bears get used to people and are not
afraid anymore. This may lead to close contacts between bears and people
and an attack is more probable.

OsmoJ

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"Osmo Jauhiainen" kirjoitti viestissä
...

keep charkas and other baits for bears. There are blinds close to these

I am sorry for the spelling mistake. I mean charcass, not charkas!

OsmoJ

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wrote...
snipped a good bear story
Mother bears are also extremely protective of their young, and they will
charge if they feel that they or the cubs are being threatened. If you
encounter a bear while hiking or in your yard, here's what you should do:

* Keep your distance. Make it aware of your presence by
clapping, talking or making other sounds.

* If you see cubs, stay away. Bear cubs are never orphaned by
their mother this time of year. The mother is nearby and is very protective.
Any movement towards the cubs could be seen as an attack, and the mother
will attack you.

* If a bear does not immediately leave after seeing you, the
food may be encouraging it to stay. Remove any sight or smell of foods.
Place food items inside a vehicle or building. Occupy a vehicle or building
until the bear wanders away.

* Black bears will sometimes "bluff charge" when cornered,
threatened or attempting to steal food. Stand your ground and slowly back
away. Don't turn your back to the bear.

These are tips that I have heard several times and that were left
out from the very good list that you provided above:

1) Avoid direct eye contact (staring at a bear) because it is a form
of a "challenge" and a call for establishing dominance. If you have
a dog, then you need to try this: have a staring contest with your
dog. Most dogs know that humans are "superior" and will avert their
gaze after a short amount of time. Bears haven't been ingrained
with the notion that humans are "superior" and see it as a direct
challenge that often instigates a confrontation. The advice I read
said to lower your head and look away and pretend to be
"submissive" and non-threatening as you slowly remove yourself from
the area because quick movements and running will often trigger an
attack.

2) Act as if every bear has cubs with them. See below for an
example.

3) I heard that it is unwise to make noise when you see a bear that
doesn't see you because the noise could startle a bear. The advice
I have come across several times is to quietly get the hell out of
the area without startling the bear if you are close. Basically you
want to put as much distance between you and the bear before you are
noticed or decide it is safe to let the bear know you are there. A
good example would be making noise when a sow doesn't see you and
you are between her and her cubs which you may not even know are
around. The noise could startle her and cause her to think that you
are after her cubs. If you are outside their "buffer zone," then
noise is good because it warns them that you are in the area. I
can't recall the distance that the source felt was a decent "buffer
zone," but I want to say it was something like 100+ yards.

If you are really interested in bears and preventing attacks, two
really good books that I have read are "Mark of the Grizzly" and
"Night of the Grizzly." MOTG is a study of several bear attacks
mostly from places like the Yellowstone Park area, Canada and
Alaska. They describe the attacks, interview the victim(s) if
possible, any witnesses, or examine the forensic evidence and then
try to explain what the people did to initiate an attack. NOTG is
about the grizzly attacks in Glacier that I believe were the first
fatalities from Grizzlies in that Park IIRC. Both are really good
books, but I liked Mark of the Grizzly more. As a matter of fact,
it may be time for another reading...... I highly recommend both
books if you are visiting areas that bears frequent because they are
very educational, IMHO.
--
Warren
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"Osmo Jauhiainen" kirjoitti viestiss=
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keep charkas and other baits for bears. There are blinds close to thes=
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I am sorry for the spelling mistake. I mean charcass, not charkas!

Your English, spelling and grammar are far better than a few people=20
who use it as a first language..... I didn't know what you meant by=20
"charkas," but when you said "charcass" I understood what you meant. =20
I think the word you are looking for is carcass. Close enough to=20
get the point across and definitely not grounds for an apology. Or=20
are you just playing around so you can get a Cindy Crawford=20
treatment?????? ;-)
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Warren=20
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"Warren" wrote in message
...
wrote...
snip
These are tips that I have heard several times and that were left
out from the very good list that you provided above:

1) Avoid direct eye contact (staring at a bear) because it is a form
of a "challenge" and a call for establishing dominance. If you have
a dog, then you need to try this: have a staring contest with your
dog. Most dogs know that humans are "superior" and will avert their
gaze after a short amount of time. Bears haven't been ingrained
with the notion that humans are "superior" and see it as a direct
challenge that often instigates a confrontation. The advice I read
said to lower your head and look away and pretend to be
"submissive" and non-threatening as you slowly remove yourself from
the area because quick movements and running will often trigger an
attack.

snip

According to the wildlife Bio that worked for me and did his PHd work on
Grizzlies in Glacier NP, the above is very true for Grizzlies, but is not an
issue with Black Bears.


--
Bob Weinberger
La, Grande, OR

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Warren,
"Warren" kirjoitti viestissä
...

Your English, spelling and grammar are far better than a few people
who use it as a first language..... I didn't know what you meant by
"charkas," but when you said "charcass" I understood what you meant.

I was trying to remember the word I have seen earlier first,
but my guess was wrong. I was checking afterwards an finding the correct
word.

Thanks!

OsmoJ

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"Mike" wrote in message
...

....If a bear does not immediately leave after seeing you, the
food may be encouraging it to stay. Remove any sight or smell of foods...

Um......it probably shouldn't be necessary to add that it's best to wait
until the bear leaves before embarking on this undertaking.

...Occupy a vehicle or building
until the bear wanders away.

Over to you, Frank. :)

Wolfgang

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"Mike" wrote in message
...
The
injury didn't require any medical treatment. Talbot said he cleaned the
scratch and got a tetanus shot.

I still don't understand these two statements.

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Warren wrote:

MOTG is a study of several bear attacks
mostly from places like the Yellowstone Park area

bears...attacks...marks...yellowstone? yikes! hmmm... choc, where did
you say you'll be fishing in the park?

jeff (who definitely believes in giving the bear some options)

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Frank still wants to know when you are comming down to clean the brown stain
off the passengers seat of his new truck...........


Handyman Mike
Standing in a river waving a stick

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On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 08:24:22 -0400, Jeff Miller
wrote:

bears...attacks...marks...yellowstone? yikes! hmmm... choc, where did
you say you'll be fishing in the park?

jeff (who definitely believes in giving the bear some options)

You might be surprised at how fast I'd move with a bear as a
motivator. g
--
Charlie...

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"Mike" wrote in message
...
For Immediate Release June 11,
2004
Bear attacks 18 year old in Standish
STANDISH, Maine -- An 18 year old who was outside taking pictures of a
black
bear feeding at a birdfeeder in his backyard was attacked and injured by
the
bear yesterday afternoon.



Saw on the news this morning that a black bear wandered into a Franklin
county, Virginia hospital through the automatic doors and began touring the
facility. The news had footage from the surveilance cameras. Some hospital
workers shooed the bear into a room, slammed the door, and then wondered
"now what". The sheriff came, realized that he really wasn't prepared to
deal with an angry bear and didn't have tarnquilizer equipment so he
dispatched it the old fashioned way. Other than the bear, there were no
reported injuries.

For those not familiar with Southwest Virginia, Franklin County is widely
regarded as the "moonshine capital of the world". Don't know who affixed
that label, but I do know that when trooping around those woods with a
friend many years ago, I was advised not to stray too far from the well worn
paths.

Jim Ray

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The bear must have had "rusty nails"......


Handyman Mike
Standing in a river waving a stick

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"Mike" wrote in message
...
Frank still wants to know when you are comming down to clean the
brown stain
off the passengers seat of his new truck...........

The bear put it there......in a manner of speaking......talk to the
bear.

Wolfgang
and, yes, the truck WAS in the woods.

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....If a bear does not immediately leave after seeing you, the
food may be encouraging it to stay. Remove any sight or smell of foods...

Um......it probably shouldn't be necessary to add that it's best to wait
until the bear leaves before embarking on this undertaking.

Found out I didn't speak bear. He understood not a wit of what I was
attempting to communicate.

...Occupy a vehicle or building
until the bear wanders away.

Over to you, Frank. :)

Wanders away? We'd still be there. Time for me to wander away.
--
Frank Reid
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How about this one:

Canadian College Student Kills Bear with Frying Pan


Bear breaks into house, attacks, but resident attacks back. Local animal
rights groups outraged.

VICTORIA, BC (PRWEB) May 26, 2004 -- In an attempt to get a free meal,
what was described as a "very large" bear broke into the rural homestead
of a BC college student, who was home on vacation at the time. The
student, who would only give his name as Ryan, says, "I had just grilled
out some salmon and walked back into the dining room to eat. Just as I
had just sat down, it sounded at though someone was trying to break down
my door." As Ryan went to investigate, the door burst open and the
gaping maw of a northern Kodiak bear appeared inside his living room.
Ryan recalls, "It was the scariest moment of my life, right up there
with the fishing accident in Sasketoon when I was twelve."

As the bear forced it's way into the dining room area, the beast found
the grilled salmon it had smelled from what authorities estimated was
over a mile away, where they found the bear's tracks around a small
cave. Ryan tried shouting at the bear to get it to leave, but the bear
seemed to be intent on the salmon it was feasting on.

Ryan then proceeded to throw various kitchen utensials at the bear to
get it's attention. "I wasn't sure what I was going to do," he said.
"After I hit the bear in the head with a wooden spoon, the bear started
coming after me!" The would-be bear snack ran to the other side of the
kitchen counter as the bear raised up on it's hind legs and tried
swatting at him. "The bear was blocking my way to my room where I
actually have a gun, so I found the only thing I had that I did not
throw at him, my frying pan." he relates. "I picked up the frying pan
and shouted, bring it on, bring it on!" Ryan jumped over the counter and
started swinging the frying pan. The animal, estimated at six feet tall
on all fours and over eight hundred pounds, got back on all fours and
started to charge the young man. When the bear was about 1 foot away
from him, Ryan swung the cast iron frying pan and hit the bear on the
right side of its head. "The bear appeared to be dazed, so I just kept
pounding him with the frying pan."

"After I hit the bear about fifteen times, the bear fell to the floor,
but I dared not let up. I hit him for about another five minutes until
he was not moving at all," Ryan says. Only then did he take the time to
call for local law enforcement. "When the police showed up, they could
not believed what they saw."

"It was the craziest thing I've ever seen," said Officer F. Barnes, of
the Victoria crime scene investigation unit. "He actually killed a bear
with a frying pan." The local wildlife officer showed up and took
measurements of the bear, one of the largest involved in a home invasion
incident in recent memory.

The bear caused about $400 dollars in damage to the house. There is no
word on what became of the animal's body, but local animal rights
activists are filing to take posession of the bear's remains, claiming
it was an immoral act of killing, and Ryan should not be allowed to make
a bearskin rug out of it. Darcy Morris, president of the local chapter
of Animal Rights Abuse Watch (ARAW), says, "This young man should be
prosecuted, not praised. The bear was simply following his natural
instincts, and had this Ryan criminal left it alone, no harm would have
been done. It's disgusting, and he can expect to hear from our lawyers."
Ryan's attorney could not be reached for comment.

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Kevin Vang wrote:

How about this one:

Canadian College Student Kills Bear with Frying Pan

He's lucky he didn't kill a grizzly bear in Montana. He'd
STILL be paying off the fine. If you kill a griz' in Montana
you'd better be in need of several hundred stitches or your
ass is grass.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in
message ...
Kevin Vang wrote:

How about this one:

Canadian College Student Kills Bear with Frying Pan

He's lucky he didn't kill a grizzly bear in Montana. He'd
STILL be paying off the fine. If you kill a griz' in Montana
you'd better be in need of several hundred stitches or your
ass is grass.

Uh huh. I believe that even I, and even in Montana, could
successfully defend a client busted for poaching a bear in his own
kitchen.

Wolfgang
um......though it might be difficult to explain poaching with a frying
pan. :(

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"Kevin Vang" wrote in message
t...
How about this one:

Canadian College Student Kills Bear with Frying Pan


Bear breaks into house, attacks, but resident attacks back. Local animal
rights groups outraged.

VICTORIA, BC (PRWEB) May 26, 2004 -- In an attempt to get a free meal,
what was described as a "very large" bear broke into the rural homestead
of a BC college student, who was home on vacation at the time. The
SNIP

I don't think this story is true. Do a google search on "animal rights abuse
watch" or "northern kodiak bear". You'll only get refernces to this story.
The names of towns are mispelled. There is an implication the event took
place near Vicotria (it was investigated by an office of the Victoria Crime
Scene investigation Unit....why not say Victoria Police Services), and there
are no kodiak bears anywhere near Victoria.

Tim Lysyk

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In article , says...


Wolfgang
um......though it might be difficult to explain poaching with a frying
pan. :(


I think a 6 person Jacuzzi filled with veal stock and cheap red
wine would be the proper utensil for poaching a whole grizzly
bear.

Kevin

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"Kevin Vang" wrote in message
...
In article , says...


Wolfgang
um......though it might be difficult to explain poaching with a
frying
pan. :(


I think a 6 person Jacuzzi filled with veal stock and cheap red
wine would be the proper utensil for poaching a whole grizzly
bear.

Can't make a proper veal stock without shallots, cracked black
peppercorns, and bay leaves.

Wolfgang
the 6 persons are optional.

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"Tim Lysyk" wrote in message
news:FziAc.48506$Ds.27967@clgrps12...

....there
are no kodiak bears anywhere near Victoria.

Well, no, not anymore.

Wolfgang
goddam gourmands. :(

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On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:08:55 GMT, "Tim Carter"
wrote:


"Mike" wrote in message
...
The
injury didn't require any medical treatment. Talbot said he cleaned the
scratch and got a tetanus shot.

I still don't understand these two statements.

"The bear cut this total nitwit some slack"

hth

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"daytripper" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:08:55 GMT, "Tim Carter"
wrote:


"Mike" wrote in message
...
The
injury didn't require any medical treatment. Talbot said he cleaned the
scratch and got a tetanus shot.

I still don't understand these two statements.

"The bear cut this total nitwit some slack"

But isn't a tetanus shot medical treatment?



hth

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On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 22:19:54 GMT, "Tim Carter"
wrote:


"daytripper" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:08:55 GMT, "Tim Carter"
wrote:


"Mike" wrote in message
...
The
injury didn't require any medical treatment. Talbot said he cleaned the
scratch and got a tetanus shot.

I still don't understand these two statements.

"The bear cut this total nitwit some slack"

But isn't a tetanus shot medical treatment?

I'd differentiate between wound treatment and pre-emptive medication, but it's
certainly debatable...

/daytripper (either way, the guy should play the lottery)

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"daytripper" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 22:19:54 GMT, "Tim Carter"
wrote:


"daytripper" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:08:55 GMT, "Tim Carter"

wrote:


"Mike" wrote in message
...
The
injury didn't require any medical treatment. Talbot said he cleaned
the
scratch and got a tetanus shot.

I still don't understand these two statements.

"The bear cut this total nitwit some slack"

But isn't a tetanus shot medical treatment?

I'd differentiate between wound treatment and pre-emptive medication, but
it's
certainly debatable...

/daytripper (either way, the guy should play the lottery)

......and have his own show on "The Food Network".

Wolfgang
who has never even SEEN a poached bear............WOW!

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...

He's lucky he didn't kill a grizzly bear in Montana. He'd
STILL be paying off the fine. If you kill a griz' in Montana
you'd better be in need of several hundred stitches or your
ass is grass.


I doubt the story is true, however the jurisdiction for illegally killing a
grizzly in Montana is in the federal system and there is a self defense
provision. On the other hand if he had left a trail of salmon from the den
to the front door...................