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Stephen Welsh May 7th, 2004 12:57 AM

Snowshoe Hare
 

The Spirit River guy here in Aus. has deliverd unto me three of said
feet. I perused the recent(ish) thread/s where Tom/Willi described using
a coffee grinder. To summarise for:

Smaller flys (16 - .) blend, tie in clump and trim to shape.
Larger flys (14 - Beyond) tie in a clump (not necessarily blended) and
leave.

Is that about right?


Frank Reid was looking for some dyed stuff, I came across this WMBOI:
http://haresfeet.50megs.com/snowshoefeet.htm



Steve

Tom Littleton May 7th, 2004 01:21 AM

Snowshoe Hare
 
Stephen Welsh asks:
Smaller flys (16 - .) blend, tie in clump and trim to shape.
Larger flys (14 - Beyond) tie in a clump (not necessarily blended) and
leave.

Is that about right?


Two minor details. First, for larger flies, feel free to trim, should you wish
a neater effect. I have no clue whether the fish care.
Second, for smaller flies, a couple extra procedures to play with: a) Bind a
sparser clump across hook shank, bind down with a couple cross wraps like a
spinner wing.
Pull both sides upward and take no more than two wraps parachute-wise around
base of clump.Gives the neatest fan-wing on small flies, with no bulky tie-down
point behind wing. b) for Downwings, take a sparser clump of unblended hair,
bind down with tips to rear with a couple wraps of thread, then, pull back
butts of hair which point forward. Pull them back in two parts, one clump to
either side of tip hairs, bind down with a couple more wraps to form a nice
down wing, clip at end of wing to shape.
Now, practice away, and fish with the flies.
You will enjoy the ease with which they stay functional, fish after fish.
Tom

Willi May 7th, 2004 01:43 PM

Snowshoe Hare
 


Tom Littleton wrote:


Second, for smaller flies, a couple extra procedures to play with: a) Bind a
sparser clump across hook shank, bind down with a couple cross wraps like a
spinner wing.
Pull both sides upward and take no more than two wraps parachute-wise around
base of clump.Gives the neatest fan-wing on small flies, with no bulky tie-down
point behind wing.


Thanks for that Tom. I was tying the small ones just like the large and
didn't like the bulk at the tie down spot.

Willi



Stephen Welsh May 7th, 2004 11:11 PM

Snowshoe Hare
 
(Tom Littleton) wrote in
:

Two minor details. First, for larger flies, feel free to trim, should
you wish a neater effect. I have no clue whether the fish care.
Second, for smaller flies, a couple extra procedures to play with: a)
Bind a sparser clump across hook shank, bind down with a couple cross
wraps like a spinner wing.
Pull both sides upward and take no more than two wraps parachute-wise
around base of clump.Gives the neatest fan-wing on small flies, with
no bulky tie-down point behind wing. b) for Downwings, take a sparser
clump of unblended hair, bind down with tips to rear with a couple
wraps of thread, then, pull back butts of hair which point forward.
Pull them back in two parts, one clump to either side of tip hairs,
bind down with a couple more wraps to form a nice down wing, clip at
end of wing to shape. Now, practice away, and fish with the flies.
You will enjoy the ease with which they stay functional, fish after
fish.
Tom


Excellent tips Tom, thanks! Tried them last evening to great effect.
I may have to wait till spring to fish the caddis: midges might
prove handy very soon even though, to date, the fish have generally been
hanging deep on pupa.

The snowshoe is an interesting material, excellent for smaller bugs, the
underfur makes a nice (somewhat coarse) translucent dubbing as well.

As you say, and best of all, trimming doesn't detract from the
appearance. This'll replace deer hair in some of my (especially smaller)
drys for sure.


Steve


Stan Gula May 7th, 2004 11:59 PM

Snowshoe Hare
 
"Stephen Welsh" wrote in message
. 1.4...
Excellent tips Tom, thanks! Tried them last evening to great effect.
I may have to wait till spring to fish the caddis: midges might
prove handy very soon even though, to date, the fish have generally been
hanging deep on pupa.

The snowshoe is an interesting material, excellent for smaller bugs, the
underfur makes a nice (somewhat coarse) translucent dubbing as well.


Yes indeed. The body of The Usual is underfur dubbed over red (or orange)
thread. It shows through nicely when wet.

A couple of examples from the 2000 fly swap:
http://www.gula.org/roffswaps/detail...ge=FS2002&id=3
http://www.gula.org/roffswaps/detail...e=FS2002&id=22
http://www.gula.org/roffswaps/detail...ge=FS2002&id=8
http://www.gula.org/roffswaps/detail...e=FS2002&id=28
http://www.gula.org/roffswaps/detail...e=FS2002&id=39



Big Dale May 8th, 2004 07:52 AM

Snowshoe Hare
 
steve wrote:snipI may have to wait till spring to fish the caddis:

spring is scheduled to be over next week around here.

Big Dale

Salmo Bytes May 8th, 2004 06:14 PM

Snowshoe Hare
 
FWIW:

Hunting snowshoe rabbits with a 22 rifle (for those of us lucky
enough to live in the Rocky Mountains) is a blast. You can chase these guys
all winter long. You have to wear snowshoes yourself, as they all
seem to live at high altitude, in or near spruce forests.

It's best to chase them after a light snow...when all the tracks you
see can be assumed to be fresh. They're like great big cottontails:
pretty tasty little critters.

Stephen Welsh May 8th, 2004 11:10 PM

Snowshoe Hare
 
"Stan Gula" wrote in news:txUmc.17551$vz5.10342
@nwrdny01.gnilink.net:

http://www.gula.org/roffswaps/detail...ge=FS2002&id=3
http://www.gula.org/roffswaps/detail...e=FS2002&id=22
http://www.gula.org/roffswaps/detail...ge=FS2002&id=8
http://www.gula.org/roffswaps/detail...e=FS2002&id=28
http://www.gula.org/roffswaps/detail...e=FS2002&id=39


Looking at various pics also reminded me of the other thing
about the fur - the subtle sheen of the natural material.

I suspect the Usual (classic) would be to dries as the
Hare's Ear is to nymphs.

Steve

Stephen Welsh May 8th, 2004 11:14 PM

Snowshoe Hare
 
ospam (Big Dale) wrote in
:

steve wrote:snipI may have to wait till spring to fish the caddis:

spring is scheduled to be over next week around here.

Big Dale


:-)
You don't seem too pleased?

Steve

Stephen Welsh May 8th, 2004 11:25 PM

Snowshoe Hare
 
(Salmo Bytes) wrote in
om:

FWIW:

Hunting snowshoe rabbits with a 22 rifle (for those of us lucky
enough to live in the Rocky Mountains) is a blast.


Could it be anything else other than a blast given said tool?
;-)

You can chase these
guys all winter long. You have to wear snowshoes yourself, as they all
seem to live at high altitude, in or near spruce forests.


That might have something to do with the Human population or lack of it
at altitude.
:-)

It's best to chase them after a light snow...when all the tracks you
see can be assumed to be fresh. They're like great big cottontails:
pretty tasty little critters.


I believe that to be a universal truth for hunting in the highlands
(differnt months down this end of the world of course)

Steve (not averse to a cony or two)

Hooked May 9th, 2004 05:51 AM

Snowshoe Hare
 
"Salmo Bytes" wrote in message
om...

pretty tasty little critters.



Mmmmmm...

Me likes the taste of rodents.

Not ! ! !



Big Dale May 9th, 2004 07:31 AM

Snowshoe Hare
 
steve wrote: steve wrote:snipI may have to wait till spring to fish the
caddis:

spring is scheduled to be over next week around here.

Big Dale


:-)
You don't seem too pleased?


One of the drawbacks of living in this area is that spring seldom lasts more
than one week. Then it is time to spend most of the time in the
air-conditioning.for the next five or six months.

Big Dale

Willi May 9th, 2004 05:55 PM

Snowshoe Hare
 


Stephen Welsh wrote:

"Stan Gula" wrote in news:txUmc.17551$vz5.10342
@nwrdny01.gnilink.net:


http://www.gula.org/roffswaps/detail...ge=FS2002&id=3
http://www.gula.org/roffswaps/detail...e=FS2002&id=22
http://www.gula.org/roffswaps/detail...ge=FS2002&id=8
http://www.gula.org/roffswaps/detail...e=FS2002&id=28
http://www.gula.org/roffswaps/detail...e=FS2002&id=39



Looking at various pics also reminded me of the other thing
about the fur - the subtle sheen of the natural material.

I suspect the Usual (classic) would be to dries as the
Hare's Ear is to nymphs.



Maybe back East but in the Rockies, I don't think I've ever come across
an angler using one.

Willi





Scott Seidman May 10th, 2004 08:46 PM

Snowshoe Hare
 
"Hooked" wrote in news:jNinc.13401$0K.3926
@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com:

"Salmo Bytes" wrote in message
om...

pretty tasty little critters.



Mmmmmm...

Me likes the taste of rodents.

Not ! ! !




Actually, lagomorphs, I believe.

Scott

Stephen Welsh May 10th, 2004 11:23 PM

Snowshoe Hare
 
Willi wrote in news:409e6282$0$201$75868355
@news.frii.net:

Maybe back East but in the Rockies, I don't think I've ever come across
an angler using one.



Ah well, there goes that notion
:-)

Steve

Stephen Welsh May 10th, 2004 11:27 PM

Snowshoe Hare
 
ospam (Big Dale) wrote in
:

steve wrote: steve wrote:snipI may have to wait till spring to fish
the caddis:

spring is scheduled to be over next week around here.

Big Dale


:-)
You don't seem too pleased?


One of the drawbacks of living in this area is that spring seldom
lasts more than one week. Then it is time to spend most of the time in
the air-conditioning.for the next five or six months.

Big Dale


Ah, so your/another cabin fever season is pending ... :-(
Locale?

Steve

Big Dale May 11th, 2004 12:41 AM

Snowshoe Hare
 
Steve wrote:Ah, so your/another cabin fever season is pending ... :-(
Locale?


Around Dallas. This year has been pretty mild. It has not reached 100 yet. some
years we have three weeks of that before June. I try to escape by going to the
Rockies sometime in August. Price of gas may prevent that this year.

Big Dale

Big Dale

Stephen Welsh May 11th, 2004 02:04 AM

Snowshoe Hare
 
ospam (Big Dale) wrote in
:

Around Dallas. This year has been pretty mild. It has not reached 100
yet. some years we have three weeks of that before June. I try to
escape by going to the Rockies sometime in August. Price of gas may
prevent that this year.

Big Dale


Well FWIW, Petrol/Gas prices haven't reached the claimed/expected heights
here in Aus. and the crude price is falling. Fingers crossed.


Steve

Salmo Bytes May 11th, 2004 02:25 AM

Snowshoe Hare
 
Mmmmmm...

Me likes the taste of rodents.
Not ! ! !


Lagomorph:
Any member of the mammalian order Lagomorpha, a terrestrial group that
includes the relatively well-known rabbits and hares and also the less
frequently encountered pikas...distinguished from rodents by having
two pairs of upper incisors specialized for gnawing.

Hooked May 11th, 2004 06:35 AM

Snowshoe Hare
 
"Stephen Welsh" wrote in message
. 1.4...

Well FWIW, Petrol/Gas prices haven't reached the claimed/expected heights
here in Aus. and the crude price is falling. Fingers crossed.



That's because your country doesn't make deals with the Saudi's to cut
production for a few months, and then raise production just before an
election.



Hooked May 11th, 2004 06:38 AM

Snowshoe Hare
 
"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
. 1.4...

Actually, lagomorphs, I believe.



What ever. If they are furry, have four legs and live in holes in the
ground, they're rodents to me.



Hooked May 11th, 2004 06:38 AM

Snowshoe Hare
 
"Salmo Bytes" wrote in message
om...

Lagomorph:
Any member of the mammalian order Lagomorpha, a terrestrial group that
includes the relatively well-known rabbits and hares and also the less
frequently encountered pikas...distinguished from rodents by having
two pairs of upper incisors specialized for gnawing.


See reply to Scott.




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