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Marty S. June 7th, 2004 12:55 AM

anchor question...>>>
 
Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and I
fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area), what
type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom" anchor (8
lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift. Any
suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure.

--
Marty S.
Baltimore, MD USA




John H June 7th, 2004 01:03 AM

anchor question...>>>
 
On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 19:55:08 -0400, "Marty S." wrote:

Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and I
fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area), what
type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom" anchor (8
lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift. Any
suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure.


A small Danforth would probably work well. I use a small one for beach
anchoring. It will dig in when the boat starts to drift.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Rodney June 7th, 2004 02:00 AM

anchor question...>>>
 
Marty S. wrote:
Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and I
fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area), what
type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom" anchor (8
lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift. Any
suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure.


Before trying another anchor,, try an anchor chain two to three feet
long, this will help that mushroom fall over and dig in.

Mushroom anchors are notorious about standing straight up, unless you
let out a lot of anchor line, drifting away from it, then giving it a
quick pull to flip it over on it's side

--
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Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com


Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers June 7th, 2004 03:21 AM

anchor question...>>>
 

"Marty S." wrote in message
...
Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and I
fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area), what
type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom" anchor

(8
lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift.

Any
suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure.


Marty,

If you're having a problem with the mushroom anchor, try something like a
River Anchor. A 12 or 15 pound model with 3 feet of chain will hold your
boat very well.

A model like this will suffice.

http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catal...arget=bro wse
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



RON June 7th, 2004 04:02 AM

anchor question...>>>
 
Suggest you get a heavier one of course!
"Marty S." wrote in message
...
Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and I
fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area), what
type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom" anchor

(8
lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift.

Any
suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure.

--
Marty S.
Baltimore, MD USA






Marty S. June 7th, 2004 07:32 AM

anchor question...>>>
 
Steve.... you recommend this type (the river anchor) over the grapneling
hook or the "Navy" style?

--
Marty S.
Baltimore, MD USA


"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Marty S." wrote in message
...
Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and

I
fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area),

what
type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom"

anchor
(8
lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift.

Any
suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure.


Marty,

If you're having a problem with the mushroom anchor, try something like a
River Anchor. A 12 or 15 pound model with 3 feet of chain will hold your
boat very well.

A model like this will suffice.


http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catal...arget=bro wse
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com





Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers June 7th, 2004 11:41 AM

anchor question...>>>
 

"Marty S." wrote in message
...
Steve.... you recommend this type (the river anchor) over the grapneling
hook or the "Navy" style?


You've got what? A 12-14 (maybe 16 foot) aluminum boat??? Unless you're
fishing in some serious current and/or wind, a 12-15 pound River anchor will
give all the hold you're going to need. I was using this same style of
anchor (the 15 pound model) to hold a 17 foot glass boat and it worked well
in all but the hardest wind.

The thing to remember is to get the anchor tipped on it's side and to let
out enough anchor rope. There's more to anchoring a boat than dropping the
thing over the side and expecting it to hold. Figure to let out at least
twice the water depth in anchor rope in order to get it to hold properly.
This will get the anchor on it's side and the flukes dug into the bottom.

Make sure you've got enough quality rope, I use 75 or 100 feet (can't
remember which exactly) and it's good rope, not hemp and not braided nylon
ski rope. This is a 1/2" or 5/8" static kernmantle type rope, easy on the
hands and no stretch.

I don't like the Danforth style anchor because they can REALLY dig in and be
difficult to remove. And, in rocky bottoms, chances are, it'll stay there.
I went through three of them before I went to the River Anchor. Now, I
carry one of those (20 pound model) and a Richter Anchor
http://www.richteranchors.com/ and my boat doesn't move. The Richter is
great, but not readily available, where you should be able to get a River
Anchor at Wal-Mart.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



Bob June 7th, 2004 04:42 PM

anchor question...>>>
 
Thank you, thank you, thank you for this link!!!
I saw this anchor in SOMETHING in print several years ago, catalogue or
magazine article, and promptly lost it, and could not remember the name. My
dad has an OMC/Grumman 16' aluminum that gives us both fits sometimes
getting it to hold at anchor in the wind, and when I saw the picture of this
anchor I knew that it would probably be the answer that we were looking for.

Hmm....
Gonna go and be sneaky on him. Order one and get it put on his boat while he
is out of town for the next two weeks. Hehe :-)

Thanx again
Cast far
Bob

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...
snip
I went through three of them before I went to the River Anchor. Now, I
carry one of those (20 pound model) and a Richter Anchor
http://www.richteranchors.com/ and my boat doesn't move. The Richter is
great, but not readily available, where you should be able to get a River
Anchor at Wal-Mart.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com




Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers June 8th, 2004 02:28 AM

anchor question...>>>
 

"Bob" wrote in message news:220xc.54657$3x.53596@attbi_s54...
Thank you, thank you, thank you for this link!!!
I saw this anchor in SOMETHING in print several years ago, catalogue or
magazine article, and promptly lost it, and could not remember the name. My
dad has an OMC/Grumman 16' aluminum that gives us both fits sometimes
getting it to hold at anchor in the wind, and when I saw the picture of this
anchor I knew that it would probably be the answer that we were looking for.

Hmm....
Gonna go and be sneaky on him. Order one and get it put on his boat while he
is out of town for the next two weeks. Hehe :-)


LOL, you are a devious rascal. Can you talk to my kids about sneaking fishing stuff into my boat?
:)

Glad you could use the link.
--
Steve
OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



Wayne.B June 8th, 2004 02:44 AM

anchor question...>>>
 
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 15:42:54 GMT, "Bob" wrote:
My
dad has an OMC/Grumman 16' aluminum that gives us both fits sometimes
getting it to hold at anchor in the wind, and when I saw the picture of this
anchor I knew that it would probably be the answer that we were looking for.


===========================================

The key to getting ANY anchor to hold is sufficient scope (ratio of
anchor line to water depth). 7 to 1 is considered ideal, 5 to 1 will
usually suffice. Also use a 3 or 4 foot length of chain as others
have mentioned. The implication is that if you are anchoring in 30
feet of water, you need between 150 and 200 feet of line. Many small
fishing boats do not carry that much. I've found that a mid-sized
canvas tote bag will hold 200 feet of 3/8 line, and the anchor. Just
lay the line into the bag, do not coil, and it will pay out with no
snarling or kinking.


Bob June 8th, 2004 11:05 AM

anchor question...>>>
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...

The key to getting ANY anchor to hold is sufficient scope (ratio of
anchor line to water depth). 7 to 1 is considered ideal, 5 to 1 will
usually suffice. Also use a 3 or 4 foot length of chain as others
have mentioned. The implication is that if you are anchoring in 30
feet of water, you need between 150 and 200 feet of line. Many small
fishing boats do not carry that much. I've found that a mid-sized
canvas tote bag will hold 200 feet of 3/8 line, and the anchor. Just
lay the line into the bag, do not coil, and it will pay out with no
snarling or kinking.


The real problem is trying to get dear old dad to think like this. He is
rather set in his ways, but this is to be expected as he is now 70! He keeps
thinking about anchoring to fish a spot the same way he used to do it with a
little 14' aluminum row boat. And rather than argue with him, I just want to
get him an anchor that may work better with his 16' and the way that he
wants to use it.

Cast far
Bob



Bob June 8th, 2004 11:08 AM

anchor question...>>>
 

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in message
...

"Bob" wrote in message

news:220xc.54657$3x.53596@attbi_s54...

Hmm....
Gonna go and be sneaky on him. Order one and get it put on his boat

while he
is out of town for the next two weeks. Hehe :-)


LOL, you are a devious rascal. Can you talk to my kids about sneaking

fishing stuff into my boat?
:)

Glad you could use the link.
--


Right, sure thing. Once I learn how to do it. Can't get me own
flesh-'n-blood to sneak stuff in for me, and I have been working on him for
12 years now. But as soon as I figure out how to talk him into doing this, I
will come up and tackle your kids for you ;-)

Bob



Jerry June 9th, 2004 04:41 AM

anchor question...>>>
 
Wayne.B wrote:

The key to getting ANY anchor to hold is sufficient scope (ratio of
anchor line to water depth). 7 to 1 is considered ideal, 5 to 1 will
usually suffice. Also use a 3 or 4 foot length of chain as others
have mentioned.


Took me a long time to realize what you are saying. Most people don't
realize the amount of rope required to hold a boat properly regardless
of anchor type.



I've found that a mid-sized
canvas tote bag will hold 200 feet of 3/8 line, and the anchor. Just
lay the line into the bag, do not coil, and it will pay out with no
snarling or kinking.


I'll have to give this a try. Nothing drives me crazy as fast as a
knotted up rope when trying to get a anchor out before drifting away
from the spot you want to be at. Right now I'm using polly rope with
fair success.

Jerry


Sarge June 10th, 2004 02:14 AM

anchor question...>>>
 
Someone wrote: "Nothing drives me crazy as fast as a knotted up rope when
trying to get a anchor out before drifting away
from the spot you want to be at."

I use to complain about the same thing. I now carry 200 feet of anchor rope
in my 19-foot bay boat since I fish areas with strong tides and large boat
traffic and the depth is up to 40 feet deep in some areas.. I store my
anchor rope on outdoor extension cord holders designed to hold 100 feet of
outdoor extension cord. They store very easy in a small storage bin on my
boat. I keep one hooked to the anchor and if I need more then 100 feet of
anchor line, I hook the two lengths together with a shackle. Both anchor
lines have spliced eyes on both ends. I attach a 5 foot chain to the anchor
and join the chain to the rope with a shackle.

Sarge



Ookie Wonderslug June 11th, 2004 12:29 AM

anchor question...>>>
 
On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 20:14:12 -0500, "Sarge"
wrote:

Someone wrote: "Nothing drives me crazy as fast as a knotted up rope when
trying to get a anchor out before drifting away
from the spot you want to be at."

I use to complain about the same thing. I now carry 200 feet of anchor rope
in my 19-foot bay boat since I fish areas with strong tides and large boat
traffic and the depth is up to 40 feet deep in some areas.. I store my
anchor rope on outdoor extension cord holders designed to hold 100 feet of
outdoor extension cord. They store very easy in a small storage bin on my
boat. I keep one hooked to the anchor and if I need more then 100 feet of
anchor line, I hook the two lengths together with a shackle. Both anchor
lines have spliced eyes on both ends. I attach a 5 foot chain to the anchor
and join the chain to the rope with a shackle.

Sarge


So I ain't the only one with an extension cord reel holding my anchor
rode. Cool.

Sierra fisher June 12th, 2004 08:15 PM

attaching chain
 
Stupid question: Do you attach the rope to the chain and the chain to the
anchor OR attach both the rope and chain to the anchor, ie, chain is not
attached to rope?

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"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Marty S." wrote in message
...
Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and

I
fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area),

what
type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom"

anchor
(8
lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift.

Any
suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure.


Marty,

If you're having a problem with the mushroom anchor, try something like a
River Anchor. A 12 or 15 pound model with 3 feet of chain will hold your
boat very well.

A model like this will suffice.


http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catal...arget=bro wse
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com





Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers June 12th, 2004 09:26 PM

attaching chain
 

"Sierra fisher" wrote in message
...
Stupid question: Do you attach the rope to the chain and the chain to the
anchor OR attach both the rope and chain to the anchor, ie, chain is not
attached to rope?


Not a stupid question at all. Attach the chain to the anchor, the rope to
the chain. Bingo, now you're in business.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



Peggie Hall June 12th, 2004 09:42 PM

attaching chain
 


Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:
"Sierra fisher" wrote in message
...

Stupid question: Do you attach the rope to the chain and the chain to the
anchor OR attach both the rope and chain to the anchor, ie, chain is not
attached to rope?



Not a stupid question at all. Attach the chain to the anchor, the rope to
the chain. Bingo, now you're in business.


The other question is HOW to attach the rope to the chain and the chain
to the anchor...just tying it on is not the recommended method.

Splice a thimble into end of the rope (or, if you don't know how and
don't want to learn how, you can buy anchor line with a thimble already
spliced into one end)...use shackles to attach the chain to the rope
and to the anchor.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://69.20.93.241/store/customer/p...40&cat=&page=1


Wayne.B June 12th, 2004 10:34 PM

attaching chain
 
On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 20:42:27 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:
use shackles to attach the chain to the rope
and to the anchor.


=====================================

AND, (Very Important) - Safety wire the shackle pins, or use a small
nylon wire tie to accomplish the same thing. It's absolutely amazing
how fast wave action can back out a shackle pin if its not secured in
some way.

Don't ask me how I know this...


Bowgus June 12th, 2004 10:41 PM

attaching chain
 
And before you stretch out for a snooze ... connect the rope to the boat.

"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...


Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:
"Sierra fisher" wrote in message
...

Stupid question: Do you attach the rope to the chain and the chain to

the
anchor OR attach both the rope and chain to the anchor, ie, chain is

not
attached to rope?



Not a stupid question at all. Attach the chain to the anchor, the rope

to
the chain. Bingo, now you're in business.


The other question is HOW to attach the rope to the chain and the chain
to the anchor...just tying it on is not the recommended method.

Splice a thimble into end of the rope (or, if you don't know how and
don't want to learn how, you can buy anchor line with a thimble already
spliced into one end)...use shackles to attach the chain to the rope
and to the anchor.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://69.20.93.241/store/customer/p...40&cat=&page=1




Don White June 12th, 2004 11:06 PM

attaching chain
 

"Bowgus" wrote in message
e.rogers.com...
And before you stretch out for a snooze ... connect the rope to the boat.


That's why they call it the 'bitter end'.



BEAU June 13th, 2004 12:18 AM

attaching chain
 
what good would would it do to attach both rope & chain to the anchor?
"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...


Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:
"Sierra fisher" wrote in message
...

Stupid question: Do you attach the rope to the chain and the chain to

the
anchor OR attach both the rope and chain to the anchor, ie, chain is

not
attached to rope?



Not a stupid question at all. Attach the chain to the anchor, the rope

to
the chain. Bingo, now you're in business.


The other question is HOW to attach the rope to the chain and the chain
to the anchor...just tying it on is not the recommended method.

Splice a thimble into end of the rope (or, if you don't know how and
don't want to learn how, you can buy anchor line with a thimble already
spliced into one end)...use shackles to attach the chain to the rope
and to the anchor.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://69.20.93.241/store/customer/p...40&cat=&page=1




Pepperoni June 13th, 2004 01:31 AM

attaching chain
 

"BEAU" wrote in message
...
what good would would it do to attach both rope & chain to the anchor?



Not a real good followup, but:

Some folks attach a stout bungee to the rope in such a way as to cushion the
wave action. The rope appears to have a slack loop at rest, but it snugs
up when the bungee is stretched. The weight of the anchor is enough to
stretch the bungee, so it rolls right through the front roller.

It supposedly helps keep the anchor in place on a short rope when the water
skiers get the bow to bouncing. An old bait fisherman's trick.

Pepperoni



Sierra fisher June 13th, 2004 01:51 AM

attaching chain
 
I have a pontoon boat, and had this anchoring problem this week on the
American River. My boat has a rear deck that is just a foot or so off of
the water. Below it is a pulley for the anchor.
Without the chain, I pull the anchor up to the pulley and out of the water.
With the chain in the line, my anchor will be suspended in the water a
little less than the length of the chain.
If I could find a heavy ball, maybe 3" in diameter, and attach it just above
the anchor, it might pull the anchor over. Then my anchor would be
suspended just at the water level.
What if this ball, or perhaps a diving weight, was attached via a ring that
could slide up and down the rope?
--


..
"BEAU" wrote in message
...
what good would would it do to attach both rope & chain to the anchor?
"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...




daytripper June 13th, 2004 03:35 AM

attaching chain
 
On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 17:51:47 -0700, "Sierra fisher"
wrote:

I have a pontoon boat, and had this anchoring problem this week on the
American River. My boat has a rear deck that is just a foot or so off of
the water. Below it is a pulley for the anchor.
Without the chain, I pull the anchor up to the pulley and out of the water.
With the chain in the line, my anchor will be suspended in the water a
little less than the length of the chain.
If I could find a heavy ball, maybe 3" in diameter, and attach it just above
the anchor, it might pull the anchor over. Then my anchor would be
suspended just at the water level.
What if this ball, or perhaps a diving weight, was attached via a ring that
could slide up and down the rope?


There's more to having a chain on your rode than just getting the anchor to
tip over - in fact that's not even the best reason. The primary point of the
chain is to flatten the effective pull angle through the weight and length of
the anchor chain. That improves the holding power of most anchors, which in
turn allows a shorter rode.

A ball weight placed near the anchor will not be as effective...

Peggie Hall June 13th, 2004 04:57 AM

attaching chain
 
BEAU wrote:
what good would would it do to attach both rope & chain to the anchor?


I thought it would obvious to anyone following this discussion that one
end of the chain attaches to the rope, the other end of the chain to the
anchor. Apparently I was wrong...

Peggie Hall



"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...


Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:

"Sierra fisher" wrote in message
...


Stupid question: Do you attach the rope to the chain and the chain to

the

anchor OR attach both the rope and chain to the anchor, ie, chain is

not

attached to rope?


Not a stupid question at all. Attach the chain to the anchor, the rope


to

the chain. Bingo, now you're in business.


The other question is HOW to attach the rope to the chain and the chain
to the anchor...just tying it on is not the recommended method.

Splice a thimble into end of the rope (or, if you don't know how and
don't want to learn how, you can buy anchor line with a thimble already
spliced into one end)...use shackles to attach the chain to the rope
and to the anchor.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://69.20.93.241/store/customer/p...40&cat=&page=1






--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://69.20.93.241/store/customer/p...40&cat=&page=1
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327


Charles T. Low June 13th, 2004 11:47 AM

attaching chain
 
I think the thing that what we're not following might be this:

It seems to me that he (Sierra Fisher) possibly has some sort of a system
whereby a pulley in this rode management system won't admit chain, so he
can't get the chain to come up through it when weighing anchor. He might be
thinking that he wants the weight of chain but it doesn't work in his
(somewhat unorthodox) system, so is wondering about a sliding weight - a
"kellet."

If that interpretation of his message is correct (is it?), then i) a kellet
should help, but won't replace all the functions of chain (which does more
than just add weight - abrasion protection being one other important
factor), ii) the kellet shackle itself might abrade on the line where it
attaches, if he used the sliding system he describes.

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"Sierra fisher" wrote in message
...
I have a pontoon boat, and had this anchoring problem this week on the
American River. My boat has a rear deck that is just a foot or so off

of
the water. Below it is a pulley for the anchor.
Without the chain, I pull the anchor up to the pulley and out of the

water.
With the chain in the line, my anchor will be suspended in the water a
little less than the length of the chain.
If I could find a heavy ball, maybe 3" in diameter, and attach it just

above
the anchor, it might pull the anchor over. Then my anchor would be
suspended just at the water level.
What if this ball, or perhaps a diving weight, was attached via a ring

that
could slide up and down the rope?
--


.
"BEAU" wrote in message
...
what good would would it do to attach both rope & chain to the anchor?
"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...






Charles T. Low June 13th, 2004 11:48 AM

attaching chain
 
How do you know that?

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
AND, (Very Important) - Safety wire the shackle pins, or use a small
nylon wire tie to accomplish the same thing. It's absolutely amazing
how fast wave action can back out a shackle pin if its not secured in
some way.

Don't ask me how I know this...




Charles T. Low June 13th, 2004 11:51 AM

attaching chain
 
Good point. We might add that Bowgus means to attach the bitter end, not
just "the rope," which will also of course be cleated or otherwise secured
somewhere along its length.

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"Bowgus" wrote in message
e.rogers.com...
And before you stretch out for a snooze ... connect the rope to the boat.

"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...


Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:
"Sierra fisher" wrote in message
...

Stupid question: Do you attach the rope to the chain and the chain to

the
anchor OR attach both the rope and chain to the anchor, ie, chain is

not
attached to rope?


Not a stupid question at all. Attach the chain to the anchor, the

rope
to
the chain. Bingo, now you're in business.


The other question is HOW to attach the rope to the chain and the chain
to the anchor...just tying it on is not the recommended method.

Splice a thimble into end of the rope (or, if you don't know how and
don't want to learn how, you can buy anchor line with a thimble already
spliced into one end)...use shackles to attach the chain to the rope
and to the anchor.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://69.20.93.241/store/customer/p...40&cat=&page=1






Charles T. Low June 13th, 2004 11:53 AM

attaching chain
 
Sierra fisher might have been wondering if the chain had any other functions
than simply adding dead weight. By now he will know...

(If that's all chain did, one could simply use a bigger anchor to achieve
similar results.)

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"BEAU" wrote in message
...
what good would would it do to attach both rope & chain to the anchor?




Doc \(The Tin Boat King\) June 13th, 2004 02:45 PM

attaching chain
 
If you are using a reel to hold the rope tie the bitter end to the reel and run the rope through a pat eye then to the anchor.
Besure to put a figgure eight knot in the lin so that when you play out all the anchor line the stain is on the pat eye and not your
plasitc hose reel (put the knot between the reel and the pat eye allowing enough slack so you don't break your reel). Now annd a
cleat to tie the anchor line off to when not using the full length of line. Doc
================================================== ==================

"Charles T. Low" wrote in message ...
Good point. We might add that Bowgus means to attach the bitter end, not
just "the rope," which will also of course be cleated or otherwise secured
somewhere along its length.

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"Bowgus" wrote in message
e.rogers.com...
And before you stretch out for a snooze ... connect the rope to the boat.

"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...


Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:
"Sierra fisher" wrote in message
...

Stupid question: Do you attach the rope to the chain and the chain to

the
anchor OR attach both the rope and chain to the anchor, ie, chain is

not
attached to rope?


Not a stupid question at all. Attach the chain to the anchor, the

rope
to
the chain. Bingo, now you're in business.


The other question is HOW to attach the rope to the chain and the chain
to the anchor...just tying it on is not the recommended method.

Splice a thimble into end of the rope (or, if you don't know how and
don't want to learn how, you can buy anchor line with a thimble already
spliced into one end)...use shackles to attach the chain to the rope
and to the anchor.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://69.20.93.241/store/customer/p...40&cat=&page=1








Wayne.B June 13th, 2004 03:31 PM

attaching chain
 
On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:48:28 -0400, "Charles T. Low"
wrote:

How do you know that?


===========================

It's called: "Coming up empty handed".

....in a very real sense of the expression.

:-)


Jerry June 13th, 2004 05:18 PM

attaching chain
 
Sierra fisher wrote:
I have a pontoon boat, and had this anchoring problem this week on the
American River. My boat has a rear deck that is just a foot or so off of
the water. Below it is a pulley for the anchor.
Without the chain, I pull the anchor up to the pulley and out of the water.
With the chain in the line, my anchor will be suspended in the water a
little less than the length of the chain.
If I could find a heavy ball, maybe 3" in diameter, and attach it just above
the anchor, it might pull the anchor over. Then my anchor would be
suspended just at the water level.
What if this ball, or perhaps a diving weight, was attached via a ring that
could slide up and down the rope?


When I lived near the Delta by San Francisco a chain on the anchor line
was needed due to the fast current and wave action to keep a boat in
place. Now living near a lake in the mid west and also using a pontoon
I don't bother with a chain for the very reason you stated. The trick
is using the proper anchor and plenty of anchor rope to get the anchor
to dig in. Using a chain is not necessary in all situations and lakes
are one of those situations.

Jerry


Jerry June 13th, 2004 05:24 PM

attaching chain
 
Peggie Hall wrote:
BEAU wrote:

what good would would it do to attach both rope & chain to the anchor?



I thought it would obvious to anyone following this discussion that one
end of the chain attaches to the rope, the other end of the chain to the
anchor. Apparently I was wrong...

Peggie Hall



Yes, you were ............... things can only be obvious if you have
some experience in the area of the obvious. Now that it was explained
to him it is probable "now" obvious..........

Jerry


Doc \(The Tin Boat King\) June 14th, 2004 04:37 AM

attaching chain
 
I need to stop posting when I'm tired. I have enough trouble typing when I'm awake! Doc
================================================== =============

"Doc (The Tin Boat King)" wrote in message ...
If you are using a reel to hold the rope tie the bitter end to the reel and run the rope through a pat eye then to the anchor.
Besure to put a figgure eight knot in the lin so that when you play out all the anchor line the stain is on the pat eye and not your
plasitc hose reel (put the knot between the reel and the pat eye allowing enough slack so you don't break your reel). Now annd a
cleat to tie the anchor line off to when not using the full length of line. Doc
================================================== ==================

"Charles T. Low" wrote in message ...
Good point. We might add that Bowgus means to attach the bitter end, not
just "the rope," which will also of course be cleated or otherwise secured
somewhere along its length.

====

Charles T. Low
- remove "UN"
www.boatdocking.com/BDPhoto.html - Photo Contest
www.boatdocking.com
www.ctlow.ca/Trojan26 - my boat

====

"Bowgus" wrote in message
e.rogers.com...
And before you stretch out for a snooze ... connect the rope to the boat.

"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...


Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:
"Sierra fisher" wrote in message
...

Stupid question: Do you attach the rope to the chain and the chain to

the
anchor OR attach both the rope and chain to the anchor, ie, chain is

not
attached to rope?


Not a stupid question at all. Attach the chain to the anchor, the

rope
to
the chain. Bingo, now you're in business.


The other question is HOW to attach the rope to the chain and the chain
to the anchor...just tying it on is not the recommended method.

Splice a thimble into end of the rope (or, if you don't know how and
don't want to learn how, you can buy anchor line with a thimble already
spliced into one end)...use shackles to attach the chain to the rope
and to the anchor.

--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://69.20.93.241/store/customer/p...40&cat=&page=1










SteveB June 22nd, 2004 06:24 AM

anchor question...>>>
 

"Marty S." wrote in message
...
Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and I
fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area), what
type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom" anchor

(8
lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift.

Any
suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure.

--
Marty S.
Baltimore, MD USA



VERY IMPORTANT TIP KNOWN BY ALL REAL SEAMEN:

Use an anchor rope that is three times your depth. Otherwise your boat
keeps picking up the anchor and dropping a short distance away.

You're welcome.

Steve



Don White June 22nd, 2004 01:49 PM

anchor question...>>>
 

"SteveB" wrote in message
news:AoPBc.23455$8r5.11116@fed1read03...

VERY IMPORTANT TIP KNOWN BY ALL REAL SEAMEN:

Use an anchor rope that is three times your depth. Otherwise your boat
keeps picking up the anchor and dropping a short distance away.

You're welcome.

Steve

Three times...?? only under the best of conditions. 5:1 would be better
but you should be prepared to let out a 7:1 ratio is anchored in stormy or
rough conditions.



Harry Krause June 22nd, 2004 01:53 PM

anchor question...>>>
 
Don White wrote:
"SteveB" wrote in message
news:AoPBc.23455$8r5.11116@fed1read03...

VERY IMPORTANT TIP KNOWN BY ALL REAL SEAMEN:

Use an anchor rope that is three times your depth. Otherwise your boat
keeps picking up the anchor and dropping a short distance away.

You're welcome.

Steve

Three times...?? only under the best of conditions. 5:1 would be better
but you should be prepared to let out a 7:1 ratio is anchored in stormy or
rough conditions.




This really depends on the circumstances, fellas. When I'm fishing, I
rarely let out more than 2-1, and sometimes less, depending upon depth,
current, wind, proximity of hard objects, et cetera. In really shallow
water, I might only have the chain and a few feet of anchor rope out.

daytripper June 22nd, 2004 11:33 PM

anchor question...>>>
 
On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 22:24:47 -0700, "SteveB" wrote:


"Marty S." wrote in message
...
Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and I
fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area), what
type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom" anchor

(8
lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift.

Any
suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure.

--
Marty S.
Baltimore, MD USA



VERY IMPORTANT TIP KNOWN BY ALL REAL SEAMEN:

Use an anchor rope that is three times your depth. Otherwise your boat
keeps picking up the anchor and dropping a short distance away.

You're welcome.


Those aren't "Real Seamen" - those are "Freshwater Seamen".

*Real Seamen* always carry enough rope to do 5 to 1 or better...

daytripper June 22nd, 2004 11:36 PM

anchor question...>>>
 
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 08:53:45 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Don White wrote:
"SteveB" wrote in message
news:AoPBc.23455$8r5.11116@fed1read03...

VERY IMPORTANT TIP KNOWN BY ALL REAL SEAMEN:

Use an anchor rope that is three times your depth. Otherwise your boat
keeps picking up the anchor and dropping a short distance away.

You're welcome.

Steve

Three times...?? only under the best of conditions. 5:1 would be better
but you should be prepared to let out a 7:1 ratio is anchored in stormy or
rough conditions.




This really depends on the circumstances, fellas. When I'm fishing, I
rarely let out more than 2-1, and sometimes less, depending upon depth,
current, wind, proximity of hard objects, et cetera. In really shallow
water, I might only have the chain and a few feet of anchor rope out.


Winning answer to "How do you know when you're fishing in your own bathtub?"

;-)


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