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Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and I
fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area), what type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom" anchor (8 lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift. Any suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure. -- Marty S. Baltimore, MD USA |
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On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 19:55:08 -0400, "Marty S." wrote:
Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and I fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area), what type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom" anchor (8 lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift. Any suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure. A small Danforth would probably work well. I use a small one for beach anchoring. It will dig in when the boat starts to drift. John H On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay! |
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Marty S. wrote:
Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and I fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area), what type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom" anchor (8 lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift. Any suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure. Before trying another anchor,, try an anchor chain two to three feet long, this will help that mushroom fall over and dig in. Mushroom anchors are notorious about standing straight up, unless you let out a lot of anchor line, drifting away from it, then giving it a quick pull to flip it over on it's side -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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"Marty S." wrote in message ... Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and I fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area), what type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom" anchor (8 lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift. Any suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure. Marty, If you're having a problem with the mushroom anchor, try something like a River Anchor. A 12 or 15 pound model with 3 feet of chain will hold your boat very well. A model like this will suffice. http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catal...arget=bro wse -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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Suggest you get a heavier one of course!
"Marty S." wrote in message ... Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and I fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area), what type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom" anchor (8 lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift. Any suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure. -- Marty S. Baltimore, MD USA |
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Steve.... you recommend this type (the river anchor) over the grapneling
hook or the "Navy" style? -- Marty S. Baltimore, MD USA "Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in message ... "Marty S." wrote in message ... Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and I fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area), what type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom" anchor (8 lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift. Any suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure. Marty, If you're having a problem with the mushroom anchor, try something like a River Anchor. A 12 or 15 pound model with 3 feet of chain will hold your boat very well. A model like this will suffice. http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catal...arget=bro wse -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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"Marty S." wrote in message ... Steve.... you recommend this type (the river anchor) over the grapneling hook or the "Navy" style? You've got what? A 12-14 (maybe 16 foot) aluminum boat??? Unless you're fishing in some serious current and/or wind, a 12-15 pound River anchor will give all the hold you're going to need. I was using this same style of anchor (the 15 pound model) to hold a 17 foot glass boat and it worked well in all but the hardest wind. The thing to remember is to get the anchor tipped on it's side and to let out enough anchor rope. There's more to anchoring a boat than dropping the thing over the side and expecting it to hold. Figure to let out at least twice the water depth in anchor rope in order to get it to hold properly. This will get the anchor on it's side and the flukes dug into the bottom. Make sure you've got enough quality rope, I use 75 or 100 feet (can't remember which exactly) and it's good rope, not hemp and not braided nylon ski rope. This is a 1/2" or 5/8" static kernmantle type rope, easy on the hands and no stretch. I don't like the Danforth style anchor because they can REALLY dig in and be difficult to remove. And, in rocky bottoms, chances are, it'll stay there. I went through three of them before I went to the River Anchor. Now, I carry one of those (20 pound model) and a Richter Anchor http://www.richteranchors.com/ and my boat doesn't move. The Richter is great, but not readily available, where you should be able to get a River Anchor at Wal-Mart. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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Thank you, thank you, thank you for this link!!!
I saw this anchor in SOMETHING in print several years ago, catalogue or magazine article, and promptly lost it, and could not remember the name. My dad has an OMC/Grumman 16' aluminum that gives us both fits sometimes getting it to hold at anchor in the wind, and when I saw the picture of this anchor I knew that it would probably be the answer that we were looking for. Hmm.... Gonna go and be sneaky on him. Order one and get it put on his boat while he is out of town for the next two weeks. Hehe :-) Thanx again Cast far Bob "Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in message ... snip I went through three of them before I went to the River Anchor. Now, I carry one of those (20 pound model) and a Richter Anchor http://www.richteranchors.com/ and my boat doesn't move. The Richter is great, but not readily available, where you should be able to get a River Anchor at Wal-Mart. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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"Bob" wrote in message news:220xc.54657$3x.53596@attbi_s54... Thank you, thank you, thank you for this link!!! I saw this anchor in SOMETHING in print several years ago, catalogue or magazine article, and promptly lost it, and could not remember the name. My dad has an OMC/Grumman 16' aluminum that gives us both fits sometimes getting it to hold at anchor in the wind, and when I saw the picture of this anchor I knew that it would probably be the answer that we were looking for. Hmm.... Gonna go and be sneaky on him. Order one and get it put on his boat while he is out of town for the next two weeks. Hehe :-) LOL, you are a devious rascal. Can you talk to my kids about sneaking fishing stuff into my boat? :) Glad you could use the link. -- Steve OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 15:42:54 GMT, "Bob" wrote:
My dad has an OMC/Grumman 16' aluminum that gives us both fits sometimes getting it to hold at anchor in the wind, and when I saw the picture of this anchor I knew that it would probably be the answer that we were looking for. =========================================== The key to getting ANY anchor to hold is sufficient scope (ratio of anchor line to water depth). 7 to 1 is considered ideal, 5 to 1 will usually suffice. Also use a 3 or 4 foot length of chain as others have mentioned. The implication is that if you are anchoring in 30 feet of water, you need between 150 and 200 feet of line. Many small fishing boats do not carry that much. I've found that a mid-sized canvas tote bag will hold 200 feet of 3/8 line, and the anchor. Just lay the line into the bag, do not coil, and it will pay out with no snarling or kinking. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... The key to getting ANY anchor to hold is sufficient scope (ratio of anchor line to water depth). 7 to 1 is considered ideal, 5 to 1 will usually suffice. Also use a 3 or 4 foot length of chain as others have mentioned. The implication is that if you are anchoring in 30 feet of water, you need between 150 and 200 feet of line. Many small fishing boats do not carry that much. I've found that a mid-sized canvas tote bag will hold 200 feet of 3/8 line, and the anchor. Just lay the line into the bag, do not coil, and it will pay out with no snarling or kinking. The real problem is trying to get dear old dad to think like this. He is rather set in his ways, but this is to be expected as he is now 70! He keeps thinking about anchoring to fish a spot the same way he used to do it with a little 14' aluminum row boat. And rather than argue with him, I just want to get him an anchor that may work better with his 16' and the way that he wants to use it. Cast far Bob |
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"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in message ... "Bob" wrote in message news:220xc.54657$3x.53596@attbi_s54... Hmm.... Gonna go and be sneaky on him. Order one and get it put on his boat while he is out of town for the next two weeks. Hehe :-) LOL, you are a devious rascal. Can you talk to my kids about sneaking fishing stuff into my boat? :) Glad you could use the link. -- Right, sure thing. Once I learn how to do it. Can't get me own flesh-'n-blood to sneak stuff in for me, and I have been working on him for 12 years now. But as soon as I figure out how to talk him into doing this, I will come up and tackle your kids for you ;-) Bob |
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Wayne.B wrote:
The key to getting ANY anchor to hold is sufficient scope (ratio of anchor line to water depth). 7 to 1 is considered ideal, 5 to 1 will usually suffice. Also use a 3 or 4 foot length of chain as others have mentioned. Took me a long time to realize what you are saying. Most people don't realize the amount of rope required to hold a boat properly regardless of anchor type. I've found that a mid-sized canvas tote bag will hold 200 feet of 3/8 line, and the anchor. Just lay the line into the bag, do not coil, and it will pay out with no snarling or kinking. I'll have to give this a try. Nothing drives me crazy as fast as a knotted up rope when trying to get a anchor out before drifting away from the spot you want to be at. Right now I'm using polly rope with fair success. Jerry |
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Someone wrote: "Nothing drives me crazy as fast as a knotted up rope when
trying to get a anchor out before drifting away from the spot you want to be at." I use to complain about the same thing. I now carry 200 feet of anchor rope in my 19-foot bay boat since I fish areas with strong tides and large boat traffic and the depth is up to 40 feet deep in some areas.. I store my anchor rope on outdoor extension cord holders designed to hold 100 feet of outdoor extension cord. They store very easy in a small storage bin on my boat. I keep one hooked to the anchor and if I need more then 100 feet of anchor line, I hook the two lengths together with a shackle. Both anchor lines have spliced eyes on both ends. I attach a 5 foot chain to the anchor and join the chain to the rope with a shackle. Sarge |
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On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 20:14:12 -0500, "Sarge"
wrote: Someone wrote: "Nothing drives me crazy as fast as a knotted up rope when trying to get a anchor out before drifting away from the spot you want to be at." I use to complain about the same thing. I now carry 200 feet of anchor rope in my 19-foot bay boat since I fish areas with strong tides and large boat traffic and the depth is up to 40 feet deep in some areas.. I store my anchor rope on outdoor extension cord holders designed to hold 100 feet of outdoor extension cord. They store very easy in a small storage bin on my boat. I keep one hooked to the anchor and if I need more then 100 feet of anchor line, I hook the two lengths together with a shackle. Both anchor lines have spliced eyes on both ends. I attach a 5 foot chain to the anchor and join the chain to the rope with a shackle. Sarge So I ain't the only one with an extension cord reel holding my anchor rode. Cool. |
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Stupid question: Do you attach the rope to the chain and the chain to the
anchor OR attach both the rope and chain to the anchor, ie, chain is not attached to rope? -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Are you still wasting your time with spam?... There is a solution!" Protected by GIANT Company's Spam Inspector The most powerful anti-spam software available. http://mail.spaminspector.com "Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in message ... "Marty S." wrote in message ... Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and I fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area), what type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom" anchor (8 lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift. Any suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure. Marty, If you're having a problem with the mushroom anchor, try something like a River Anchor. A 12 or 15 pound model with 3 feet of chain will hold your boat very well. A model like this will suffice. http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catal...arget=bro wse -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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"Sierra fisher" wrote in message ... Stupid question: Do you attach the rope to the chain and the chain to the anchor OR attach both the rope and chain to the anchor, ie, chain is not attached to rope? Not a stupid question at all. Attach the chain to the anchor, the rope to the chain. Bingo, now you're in business. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote: "Sierra fisher" wrote in message ... Stupid question: Do you attach the rope to the chain and the chain to the anchor OR attach both the rope and chain to the anchor, ie, chain is not attached to rope? Not a stupid question at all. Attach the chain to the anchor, the rope to the chain. Bingo, now you're in business. The other question is HOW to attach the rope to the chain and the chain to the anchor...just tying it on is not the recommended method. Splice a thimble into end of the rope (or, if you don't know how and don't want to learn how, you can buy anchor line with a thimble already spliced into one end)...use shackles to attach the chain to the rope and to the anchor. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://69.20.93.241/store/customer/p...40&cat=&page=1 |
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On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 20:42:27 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote: use shackles to attach the chain to the rope and to the anchor. ===================================== AND, (Very Important) - Safety wire the shackle pins, or use a small nylon wire tie to accomplish the same thing. It's absolutely amazing how fast wave action can back out a shackle pin if its not secured in some way. Don't ask me how I know this... |
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And before you stretch out for a snooze ... connect the rope to the boat.
"Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote: "Sierra fisher" wrote in message ... Stupid question: Do you attach the rope to the chain and the chain to the anchor OR attach both the rope and chain to the anchor, ie, chain is not attached to rope? Not a stupid question at all. Attach the chain to the anchor, the rope to the chain. Bingo, now you're in business. The other question is HOW to attach the rope to the chain and the chain to the anchor...just tying it on is not the recommended method. Splice a thimble into end of the rope (or, if you don't know how and don't want to learn how, you can buy anchor line with a thimble already spliced into one end)...use shackles to attach the chain to the rope and to the anchor. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://69.20.93.241/store/customer/p...40&cat=&page=1 |
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"Bowgus" wrote in message e.rogers.com... And before you stretch out for a snooze ... connect the rope to the boat. That's why they call it the 'bitter end'. |
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what good would would it do to attach both rope & chain to the anchor?
"Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote: "Sierra fisher" wrote in message ... Stupid question: Do you attach the rope to the chain and the chain to the anchor OR attach both the rope and chain to the anchor, ie, chain is not attached to rope? Not a stupid question at all. Attach the chain to the anchor, the rope to the chain. Bingo, now you're in business. The other question is HOW to attach the rope to the chain and the chain to the anchor...just tying it on is not the recommended method. Splice a thimble into end of the rope (or, if you don't know how and don't want to learn how, you can buy anchor line with a thimble already spliced into one end)...use shackles to attach the chain to the rope and to the anchor. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://69.20.93.241/store/customer/p...40&cat=&page=1 |
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"BEAU" wrote in message ... what good would would it do to attach both rope & chain to the anchor? Not a real good followup, but: Some folks attach a stout bungee to the rope in such a way as to cushion the wave action. The rope appears to have a slack loop at rest, but it snugs up when the bungee is stretched. The weight of the anchor is enough to stretch the bungee, so it rolls right through the front roller. It supposedly helps keep the anchor in place on a short rope when the water skiers get the bow to bouncing. An old bait fisherman's trick. Pepperoni |
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I have a pontoon boat, and had this anchoring problem this week on the
American River. My boat has a rear deck that is just a foot or so off of the water. Below it is a pulley for the anchor. Without the chain, I pull the anchor up to the pulley and out of the water. With the chain in the line, my anchor will be suspended in the water a little less than the length of the chain. If I could find a heavy ball, maybe 3" in diameter, and attach it just above the anchor, it might pull the anchor over. Then my anchor would be suspended just at the water level. What if this ball, or perhaps a diving weight, was attached via a ring that could slide up and down the rope? -- .. "BEAU" wrote in message ... what good would would it do to attach both rope & chain to the anchor? "Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... |
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On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 17:51:47 -0700, "Sierra fisher"
wrote: I have a pontoon boat, and had this anchoring problem this week on the American River. My boat has a rear deck that is just a foot or so off of the water. Below it is a pulley for the anchor. Without the chain, I pull the anchor up to the pulley and out of the water. With the chain in the line, my anchor will be suspended in the water a little less than the length of the chain. If I could find a heavy ball, maybe 3" in diameter, and attach it just above the anchor, it might pull the anchor over. Then my anchor would be suspended just at the water level. What if this ball, or perhaps a diving weight, was attached via a ring that could slide up and down the rope? There's more to having a chain on your rode than just getting the anchor to tip over - in fact that's not even the best reason. The primary point of the chain is to flatten the effective pull angle through the weight and length of the anchor chain. That improves the holding power of most anchors, which in turn allows a shorter rode. A ball weight placed near the anchor will not be as effective... |
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BEAU wrote:
what good would would it do to attach both rope & chain to the anchor? I thought it would obvious to anyone following this discussion that one end of the chain attaches to the rope, the other end of the chain to the anchor. Apparently I was wrong... Peggie Hall "Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote: "Sierra fisher" wrote in message ... Stupid question: Do you attach the rope to the chain and the chain to the anchor OR attach both the rope and chain to the anchor, ie, chain is not attached to rope? Not a stupid question at all. Attach the chain to the anchor, the rope to the chain. Bingo, now you're in business. The other question is HOW to attach the rope to the chain and the chain to the anchor...just tying it on is not the recommended method. Splice a thimble into end of the rope (or, if you don't know how and don't want to learn how, you can buy anchor line with a thimble already spliced into one end)...use shackles to attach the chain to the rope and to the anchor. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://69.20.93.241/store/customer/p...40&cat=&page=1 -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://69.20.93.241/store/customer/p...40&cat=&page=1 http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327 |
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I think the thing that what we're not following might be this:
It seems to me that he (Sierra Fisher) possibly has some sort of a system whereby a pulley in this rode management system won't admit chain, so he can't get the chain to come up through it when weighing anchor. He might be thinking that he wants the weight of chain but it doesn't work in his (somewhat unorthodox) system, so is wondering about a sliding weight - a "kellet." If that interpretation of his message is correct (is it?), then i) a kellet should help, but won't replace all the functions of chain (which does more than just add weight - abrasion protection being one other important factor), ii) the kellet shackle itself might abrade on the line where it attaches, if he used the sliding system he describes. ==== Charles T. Low - remove "UN" www.boatdocking.com/BDPhoto.html - Photo Contest www.boatdocking.com www.ctlow.ca/Trojan26 - my boat ==== "Sierra fisher" wrote in message ... I have a pontoon boat, and had this anchoring problem this week on the American River. My boat has a rear deck that is just a foot or so off of the water. Below it is a pulley for the anchor. Without the chain, I pull the anchor up to the pulley and out of the water. With the chain in the line, my anchor will be suspended in the water a little less than the length of the chain. If I could find a heavy ball, maybe 3" in diameter, and attach it just above the anchor, it might pull the anchor over. Then my anchor would be suspended just at the water level. What if this ball, or perhaps a diving weight, was attached via a ring that could slide up and down the rope? -- . "BEAU" wrote in message ... what good would would it do to attach both rope & chain to the anchor? "Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... |
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How do you know that?
==== Charles T. Low - remove "UN" www.boatdocking.com/BDPhoto.html - Photo Contest www.boatdocking.com www.ctlow.ca/Trojan26 - my boat ==== "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... AND, (Very Important) - Safety wire the shackle pins, or use a small nylon wire tie to accomplish the same thing. It's absolutely amazing how fast wave action can back out a shackle pin if its not secured in some way. Don't ask me how I know this... |
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Good point. We might add that Bowgus means to attach the bitter end, not
just "the rope," which will also of course be cleated or otherwise secured somewhere along its length. ==== Charles T. Low - remove "UN" www.boatdocking.com/BDPhoto.html - Photo Contest www.boatdocking.com www.ctlow.ca/Trojan26 - my boat ==== "Bowgus" wrote in message e.rogers.com... And before you stretch out for a snooze ... connect the rope to the boat. "Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote: "Sierra fisher" wrote in message ... Stupid question: Do you attach the rope to the chain and the chain to the anchor OR attach both the rope and chain to the anchor, ie, chain is not attached to rope? Not a stupid question at all. Attach the chain to the anchor, the rope to the chain. Bingo, now you're in business. The other question is HOW to attach the rope to the chain and the chain to the anchor...just tying it on is not the recommended method. Splice a thimble into end of the rope (or, if you don't know how and don't want to learn how, you can buy anchor line with a thimble already spliced into one end)...use shackles to attach the chain to the rope and to the anchor. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://69.20.93.241/store/customer/p...40&cat=&page=1 |
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Sierra fisher might have been wondering if the chain had any other functions
than simply adding dead weight. By now he will know... (If that's all chain did, one could simply use a bigger anchor to achieve similar results.) ==== Charles T. Low - remove "UN" www.boatdocking.com/BDPhoto.html - Photo Contest www.boatdocking.com www.ctlow.ca/Trojan26 - my boat ==== "BEAU" wrote in message ... what good would would it do to attach both rope & chain to the anchor? |
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If you are using a reel to hold the rope tie the bitter end to the reel and run the rope through a pat eye then to the anchor.
Besure to put a figgure eight knot in the lin so that when you play out all the anchor line the stain is on the pat eye and not your plasitc hose reel (put the knot between the reel and the pat eye allowing enough slack so you don't break your reel). Now annd a cleat to tie the anchor line off to when not using the full length of line. Doc ================================================== ================== "Charles T. Low" wrote in message ... Good point. We might add that Bowgus means to attach the bitter end, not just "the rope," which will also of course be cleated or otherwise secured somewhere along its length. ==== Charles T. Low - remove "UN" www.boatdocking.com/BDPhoto.html - Photo Contest www.boatdocking.com www.ctlow.ca/Trojan26 - my boat ==== "Bowgus" wrote in message e.rogers.com... And before you stretch out for a snooze ... connect the rope to the boat. "Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote: "Sierra fisher" wrote in message ... Stupid question: Do you attach the rope to the chain and the chain to the anchor OR attach both the rope and chain to the anchor, ie, chain is not attached to rope? Not a stupid question at all. Attach the chain to the anchor, the rope to the chain. Bingo, now you're in business. The other question is HOW to attach the rope to the chain and the chain to the anchor...just tying it on is not the recommended method. Splice a thimble into end of the rope (or, if you don't know how and don't want to learn how, you can buy anchor line with a thimble already spliced into one end)...use shackles to attach the chain to the rope and to the anchor. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://69.20.93.241/store/customer/p...40&cat=&page=1 |
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On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:48:28 -0400, "Charles T. Low"
wrote: How do you know that? =========================== It's called: "Coming up empty handed". ....in a very real sense of the expression. :-) |
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Sierra fisher wrote:
I have a pontoon boat, and had this anchoring problem this week on the American River. My boat has a rear deck that is just a foot or so off of the water. Below it is a pulley for the anchor. Without the chain, I pull the anchor up to the pulley and out of the water. With the chain in the line, my anchor will be suspended in the water a little less than the length of the chain. If I could find a heavy ball, maybe 3" in diameter, and attach it just above the anchor, it might pull the anchor over. Then my anchor would be suspended just at the water level. What if this ball, or perhaps a diving weight, was attached via a ring that could slide up and down the rope? When I lived near the Delta by San Francisco a chain on the anchor line was needed due to the fast current and wave action to keep a boat in place. Now living near a lake in the mid west and also using a pontoon I don't bother with a chain for the very reason you stated. The trick is using the proper anchor and plenty of anchor rope to get the anchor to dig in. Using a chain is not necessary in all situations and lakes are one of those situations. Jerry |
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Peggie Hall wrote:
BEAU wrote: what good would would it do to attach both rope & chain to the anchor? I thought it would obvious to anyone following this discussion that one end of the chain attaches to the rope, the other end of the chain to the anchor. Apparently I was wrong... Peggie Hall Yes, you were ............... things can only be obvious if you have some experience in the area of the obvious. Now that it was explained to him it is probable "now" obvious.......... Jerry |
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I need to stop posting when I'm tired. I have enough trouble typing when I'm awake! Doc
================================================== ============= "Doc (The Tin Boat King)" wrote in message ... If you are using a reel to hold the rope tie the bitter end to the reel and run the rope through a pat eye then to the anchor. Besure to put a figgure eight knot in the lin so that when you play out all the anchor line the stain is on the pat eye and not your plasitc hose reel (put the knot between the reel and the pat eye allowing enough slack so you don't break your reel). Now annd a cleat to tie the anchor line off to when not using the full length of line. Doc ================================================== ================== "Charles T. Low" wrote in message ... Good point. We might add that Bowgus means to attach the bitter end, not just "the rope," which will also of course be cleated or otherwise secured somewhere along its length. ==== Charles T. Low - remove "UN" www.boatdocking.com/BDPhoto.html - Photo Contest www.boatdocking.com www.ctlow.ca/Trojan26 - my boat ==== "Bowgus" wrote in message e.rogers.com... And before you stretch out for a snooze ... connect the rope to the boat. "Peggie Hall" wrote in message ... Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote: "Sierra fisher" wrote in message ... Stupid question: Do you attach the rope to the chain and the chain to the anchor OR attach both the rope and chain to the anchor, ie, chain is not attached to rope? Not a stupid question at all. Attach the chain to the anchor, the rope to the chain. Bingo, now you're in business. The other question is HOW to attach the rope to the chain and the chain to the anchor...just tying it on is not the recommended method. Splice a thimble into end of the rope (or, if you don't know how and don't want to learn how, you can buy anchor line with a thimble already spliced into one end)...use shackles to attach the chain to the rope and to the anchor. -- Peggie ---------- Peggie Hall Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987 Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor" http://69.20.93.241/store/customer/p...40&cat=&page=1 |
anchor question...>>>
"Marty S." wrote in message ... Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and I fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area), what type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom" anchor (8 lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift. Any suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure. -- Marty S. Baltimore, MD USA VERY IMPORTANT TIP KNOWN BY ALL REAL SEAMEN: Use an anchor rope that is three times your depth. Otherwise your boat keeps picking up the anchor and dropping a short distance away. You're welcome. Steve |
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"SteveB" wrote in message news:AoPBc.23455$8r5.11116@fed1read03... VERY IMPORTANT TIP KNOWN BY ALL REAL SEAMEN: Use an anchor rope that is three times your depth. Otherwise your boat keeps picking up the anchor and dropping a short distance away. You're welcome. Steve Three times...?? only under the best of conditions. 5:1 would be better but you should be prepared to let out a 7:1 ratio is anchored in stormy or rough conditions. |
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Don White wrote:
"SteveB" wrote in message news:AoPBc.23455$8r5.11116@fed1read03... VERY IMPORTANT TIP KNOWN BY ALL REAL SEAMEN: Use an anchor rope that is three times your depth. Otherwise your boat keeps picking up the anchor and dropping a short distance away. You're welcome. Steve Three times...?? only under the best of conditions. 5:1 would be better but you should be prepared to let out a 7:1 ratio is anchored in stormy or rough conditions. This really depends on the circumstances, fellas. When I'm fishing, I rarely let out more than 2-1, and sometimes less, depending upon depth, current, wind, proximity of hard objects, et cetera. In really shallow water, I might only have the chain and a few feet of anchor rope out. |
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On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 22:24:47 -0700, "SteveB" wrote:
"Marty S." wrote in message ... Question... for a small jon boat on a reservoir (I'm in Maryland, and I fish on Liberty Reservoir, for those of you familiar with this area), what type of anchor would be best? I presently have a small "mushroom" anchor (8 lbs, I think) but it doesn't hold the boat in place -- I tend to drift. Any suggestions? I think the bottom is mostly mud but I'm not exactly sure. -- Marty S. Baltimore, MD USA VERY IMPORTANT TIP KNOWN BY ALL REAL SEAMEN: Use an anchor rope that is three times your depth. Otherwise your boat keeps picking up the anchor and dropping a short distance away. You're welcome. Those aren't "Real Seamen" - those are "Freshwater Seamen". *Real Seamen* always carry enough rope to do 5 to 1 or better... |
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 08:53:45 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote: Don White wrote: "SteveB" wrote in message news:AoPBc.23455$8r5.11116@fed1read03... VERY IMPORTANT TIP KNOWN BY ALL REAL SEAMEN: Use an anchor rope that is three times your depth. Otherwise your boat keeps picking up the anchor and dropping a short distance away. You're welcome. Steve Three times...?? only under the best of conditions. 5:1 would be better but you should be prepared to let out a 7:1 ratio is anchored in stormy or rough conditions. This really depends on the circumstances, fellas. When I'm fishing, I rarely let out more than 2-1, and sometimes less, depending upon depth, current, wind, proximity of hard objects, et cetera. In really shallow water, I might only have the chain and a few feet of anchor rope out. Winning answer to "How do you know when you're fishing in your own bathtub?" ;-) |
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