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any tatics to get the fish feeding in rain

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On Sat, 8 May 2004 23:38:58 +0100, "Jake"
wrote:

any tatics to get the fish feeding in rain

Patience.

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In article , Jake
wrote:
any tatics to get the fish feeding in rain

Doesn't make much difference except maybe in shallow water - until the mud
starts to wash in. If anything it helps slightly as you are harder to see
through the broken surface. I have seen plenty of fish feeding at the
surface in summer rain and you'd expect surface feeders to be most affected.
OK it does make dry fly fishing difficult but that's for a different reason.

Even cold rain is rarely a problem - snow and hail are different and usually
do slow things up.

What are the problems you experience?

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If the rain is cold it will cool the water and put fish off feeding

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In article xHqnc.6853$7S2.2722@newsfe1-win, Hoot!!!
wrote:
If the rain is cold it will cool the water and put fish off feeding

So: If 3m water at 12C gets 12mm (rather a lot) rain at 6C what is the
resulting temperature?

Cheerio,

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How wide is the area that is 3m deep? We do live in a 3D world. Also i would
assume air temperature would play a part and also the wind speed and
direction. Please give us all the details :)
"Derek.Moody" wrote in message
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In article xHqnc.6853$7S2.2722@newsfe1-win, Hoot!!!
wrote:
If the rain is cold it will cool the water and put fish off feeding

So: If 3m water at 12C gets 12mm (rather a lot) rain at 6C what is the
resulting temperature?

Cheerio,

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In article , Michael Stokes
wrote:
How wide is the area that is 3m deep? We do live in a 3D world. Also i would
assume air temperature would play a part and also the wind speed and
direction. Please give us all the details :)

Just calculate on a 1x1cm column. Keep the wind down or you'll blow it
over...

Cheerio,

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1x1 = 1
"Derek.Moody" wrote in message
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In article , Michael Stokes
wrote:
How wide is the area that is 3m deep? We do live in a 3D world. Also i
would
assume air temperature would play a part and also the wind speed and
direction. Please give us all the details :)

Just calculate on a 1x1cm column. Keep the wind down or you'll blow it
over...

Cheerio,

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In article , Michael Stokes
wrote:

Re-ordered.

Just calculate on a 1x1cm column. Keep the wind down or you'll blow it
over...

1x1 = 1

Close.

So at 3m depth an addition of 3mm rainwater 6deg colder is a mixture 1000:1
reducing the overall water temperature by (roughly) a half of one percent of a
degree. Now is that temperature drop going to put the fish off?

Cheerio,

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I have no idea
"Derek.Moody" wrote in message
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In article , Michael Stokes
wrote:

Re-ordered.

Just calculate on a 1x1cm column. Keep the wind down or you'll blow
it
over...

1x1 = 1

Close.

So at 3m depth an addition of 3mm rainwater 6deg colder is a mixture
1000:1
reducing the overall water temperature by (roughly) a half of one percent
of a
degree. Now is that temperature drop going to put the fish off?

Cheerio,

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you forgot to take into account of air temp, time of year, wind,size of
lake, time of day

etc etc

so temp as dropped suddenly by 2.26degrees, so fish feel cold
and go and sit by the fire.

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In article , Hoot!!!
wrote:
you forgot to take into account of air temp, time of year, wind,size of
lake, time of day

etc etc

so temp as dropped suddenly by 2.26degrees, so fish feel cold
and go and sit by the fire.

Quite. Other factors are at least as important if not more so.

So Jake's original question:
'any tatics to get the fish feeding in rain'

was at best ill stated as at most of the time the rain itself is immaterial

and the response:
'If the rain is cold it will cool the water and put fish off feeding'
(which is pretty much the standard reply)
really doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

In many storms I'd guess that the greater part of any temperature drop is
due to thick cloud blocking the sun's heat.

Diurnal heating and cooling must have a much greater effect in shallow
water. Deep water is an excellent heat sink. Incoming aquifers (springs)
have a stabilising effect (and are excellent fish holding features in cold
conditions)

I have seen fish shoal under a tree in a summer thunderstorm - not to get
out of the rain but to exploit the shower of caterpillars that were washed
off the leaves.

So the old catch all answer:
'Watch what the fish are doing and try to exploit their actions.'

Seems to apply.

In other words: forget the rain and carry on as usual.

Cheerio,

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Very good post, some intersting points :)
"Derek.Moody" wrote in message
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In article , Hoot!!!
wrote:
you forgot to take into account of air temp, time of year, wind,size of
lake, time of day

etc etc

so temp as dropped suddenly by 2.26degrees, so fish feel cold
and go and sit by the fire.

Quite. Other factors are at least as important if not more so.

So Jake's original question:
'any tatics to get the fish feeding in rain'

was at best ill stated as at most of the time the rain itself is
immaterial

and the response:
'If the rain is cold it will cool the water and put fish off feeding'
(which is pretty much the standard reply)
really doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

In many storms I'd guess that the greater part of any temperature drop is
due to thick cloud blocking the sun's heat.

Diurnal heating and cooling must have a much greater effect in shallow
water. Deep water is an excellent heat sink. Incoming aquifers (springs)
have a stabilising effect (and are excellent fish holding features in cold
conditions)

I have seen fish shoal under a tree in a summer thunderstorm - not to get
out of the rain but to exploit the shower of caterpillars that were washed
off the leaves.

So the old catch all answer:
'Watch what the fish are doing and try to exploit their actions.'

Seems to apply.

In other words: forget the rain and carry on as usual.

Cheerio,

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