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"snakefiddler" wrote in message ... so, i had a few hours between jobs today, and i decided to spend them fishing in a gorgeous trout stream i "discovered" - along with several tourists- the other day. i hoped today would be quieter, since the holiday week-end was over, and for the most part it was. i stood nearly waist deep in water, and was feeling good about my casting, enjoying a few strikes, when a hiker came along with his dog. he saw me eyeballing him, as he and his canine edged along the bank, as i got out to change my fly, and he asked if i was still fishing. i replied in the affirmative, to which he stated that he was hoping to see if his dog would swim. i told him that would scare the fish away, to which he replied by saying, "no more than you being in the water." well, i am still pretty inexperienced, but i'm pretty sure that my gentle, slow wading into the water, and standing quietly, in a stooped position would be a lot less likely to spook the fish than his dog jumping, and splashing around in the water, and i politely related that position to him. he looked a little ****ed off, and grumbled something under his breath as he walked away. i thanked him, said i appreciated it, to which he replied, 'no problem." so, who has the "right of way?" naturally, i think i do. i was there first, and he could take his dog to another part of the stream. any of ya'll had this happen- what did you do? First come, first served. I was hiking a local river just Sunday, and came across a perfect spot to fish. A wide bend, with a large dry gravel bar on the inside (with room for backcasts), and a long rough rapid ending in a nice pourover and a deep hole right below a blowdown tree. Best spot I saw in about 10 miles of hiking.....and a young couple was tossing a stick into the deep hole for their Black Lab to retrieve. I shrugged at my bad luck and continued on my way. --riverman |
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so, i had a few hours between jobs today, and i decided to spend them
fishing in a gorgeous trout stream i "discovered" - along with several tourists- the other day. i hoped today would be quieter, since the holiday week-end was over, and for the most part it was. i stood nearly waist deep in water, and was feeling good about my casting, enjoying a few strikes, when a hiker came along with his dog. he saw me eyeballing him, as he and his canine edged along the bank, as i got out to change my fly, and he asked if i was still fishing. i replied in the affirmative, to which he stated that he was hoping to see if his dog would swim. i told him that would scare the fish away, to which he replied by saying, "no more than you being in the water." well, i am still pretty inexperienced, but i'm pretty sure that my gentle, slow wading into the water, and standing quietly, in a stooped position would be a lot less likely to spook the fish than his dog jumping, and splashing around in the water, and i politely related that position to him. he looked a little ****ed off, and grumbled something under his breath as he walked away. i thanked him, said i appreciated it, to which he replied, 'no problem." so, who has the "right of way?" naturally, i think i do. i was there first, and he could take his dog to another part of the stream. any of ya'll had this happen- what did you do? snake |
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"snakefiddler" wrote in message ... so, i had a few hours between jobs today, and i decided to spend them fishing in a gorgeous trout stream i "discovered" - along with several tourists- the other day. i hoped today would be quieter, since the holiday week-end was over, and for the most part it was. i stood nearly waist deep in water, and was feeling good about my casting, enjoying a few strikes, when a hiker came along with his dog. he saw me eyeballing him, as he and his canine edged along the bank, as i got out to change my fly, and he asked if i was still fishing. i replied in the affirmative, to which he stated that he was hoping to see if his dog would swim. i told him that would scare the fish away, to which he replied by saying, "no more than you being in the water." well, i am still pretty inexperienced, but i'm pretty sure that my gentle, slow wading into the water, and standing quietly, in a stooped position would be a lot less likely to spook the fish than his dog jumping, and splashing around in the water, and i politely related that position to him. he looked a little ****ed off, and grumbled something under his breath as he walked away. i thanked him, said i appreciated it, to which he replied, 'no problem." so, who has the "right of way?" naturally, i think i do. i was there first, and he could take his dog to another part of the stream. any of ya'll had this happen- what did you do? Well, it depends. Miss Manners really doesn't have **** to say about this kind of thing........um......not that it would matter if she did........any more than it does when she does have something to say about whatever the question might be. What it comes down to is this......on a bad day, you just kind of give way.......let 'em have the pool and go get a sandwich and a beer......or something. On a good day........well......you gut dog and owner......and you have a nice shore lunch of fresh liver.......and a beer. Wolfgang and the moral is........always have a cold beer handy. |
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On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 16:37:45 -0400, "snakefiddler"
wrote: so, i had a few hours between jobs today, and i decided to spend them fishing in a gorgeous trout stream i "discovered" - along with several tourists- the other day. i hoped today would be quieter, since the holiday week-end was over, and for the most part it was. i stood nearly waist deep in water, and was feeling good about my casting, enjoying a few strikes, when a hiker came along with his dog. he saw me eyeballing him, as he and his canine edged along the bank, as i got out to change my fly, and he asked if i was still fishing. i replied in the affirmative, to which he stated that he was hoping to see if his dog would swim. i told him that would scare the fish away, to which he replied by saying, "no more than you being in the water." well, i am still pretty inexperienced, but i'm pretty sure that my gentle, slow wading into the water, and standing quietly, in a stooped position would be a lot less likely to spook the fish than his dog jumping, and splashing around in the water, and i politely related that position to him. he looked a little ****ed off, and grumbled something under his breath as he walked away. i thanked him, said i appreciated it, to which he replied, 'no problem." so, who has the "right of way?" naturally, i think i do. i was there first, and he could take his dog to another part of the stream. any of ya'll had this happen- what did you do? I'd have told him my name was Mark Bowen, I live at whatever he posted, and that I was a electrical phlebotomist or whatever, and that if he even thought about letting that gawdamned mutt near the water, I'd rip his eyeballs out and eat them and sell his dog to the Moonies, and then, just for good measure, go on a multistate lit-****bag-on-the-porch spree, and he better take his dog and hit the trail before I shoved my flyrod up his ass...then, I'd get the hell out of there, and go sit down the street from Mark's for a little while to see what might happen...but I'm a guy, so... HTH, Sam ....of course, you could have "pj roberts," with appropriate particulars, and, apparently, set up the potential for some REAL amusement...but then, also apparently, the actual pj roberts might have done the very same thing... snake |
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On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 19:01:54 -0500, wrote:
...of course, you could have "pj roberts," with appropriate particulars, Er, slight correction: while, also apparently, you probably COULD have pj roberts with appropriate particulars, my original intent was to have the word "said" appear betwixt "have" and "pj roberts"...as always, YMMV... Fred |
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You've gotta actually get out and fish first Dickie!
And, are you absolutely certain about that guy thing. One never really knows, medium being what is and all that, ya know? mark wrote in message ... On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 16:37:45 -0400, "snakefiddler" wrote: so, i had a few hours between jobs today, and i decided to spend them fishing in a gorgeous trout stream i "discovered" - along with several tourists- the other day. i hoped today would be quieter, since the holiday week-end was over, and for the most part it was. i stood nearly waist deep in water, and was feeling good about my casting, enjoying a few strikes, when a hiker came along with his dog. he saw me eyeballing him, as he and his canine edged along the bank, as i got out to change my fly, and he asked if i was still fishing. i replied in the affirmative, to which he stated that he was hoping to see if his dog would swim. i told him that would scare the fish away, to which he replied by saying, "no more than you being in the water." well, i am still pretty inexperienced, but i'm pretty sure that my gentle, slow wading into the water, and standing quietly, in a stooped position would be a lot less likely to spook the fish than his dog jumping, and splashing around in the water, and i politely related that position to him. he looked a little ****ed off, and grumbled something under his breath as he walked away. i thanked him, said i appreciated it, to which he replied, 'no problem." so, who has the "right of way?" naturally, i think i do. i was there first, and he could take his dog to another part of the stream. any of ya'll had this happen- what did you do? I'd have told him my name was Mark Bowen, I live at whatever he posted, and that I was a electrical phlebotomist or whatever, and that if he even thought about letting that gawdamned mutt near the water, I'd rip his eyeballs out and eat them and sell his dog to the Moonies, and then, just for good measure, go on a multistate lit-****bag-on-the-porch spree, and he better take his dog and hit the trail before I shoved my flyrod up his ass...then, I'd get the hell out of there, and go sit down the street from Mark's for a little while to see what might happen...but I'm a guy, so... HTH, Sam ...of course, you could have "pj roberts," with appropriate particulars, and, apparently, set up the potential for some REAL amusement...but then, also apparently, the actual pj roberts might have done the very same thing... snake --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.711 / Virus Database: 467 - Release Date: 6/25/2004 |
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On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 22:47:10 -0400, "Mark H. Bowen"
wrote: You've gotta actually get out and fish first Dickie! And, are you absolutely certain about that guy thing. One never really knows, medium being what is and all that, ya know? mark I know what you mean...I've always suspected that you were really a miniature poodle called "Francoise" that had miraculously learned to type... HTH, Dickie ....hey, last time I had to count to 11, I was a guy... |
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snakefiddler wrote:
any of ya'll had this happen- what did you do? Today on the Big Wood, the first pool downstream from the access, which is a very fine pool, had a family with young children throwing rocks into the river. When they saw me coming they started acting sheepish, and the youngest boy walked past me looking guilty. I made a joke about scaring the fish, greeted his parents politely, and moved on, more-or-less like the guy with the dog. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 16:37:45 -0400, "snakefiddler"
wrote: (snipped) i stood nearly waist deep in water, and was feeling good about my casting, enjoying a few strikes, when a hiker came along with his dog. he saw me eyeballing him, as he and his canine edged along the bank, as i got out to change my fly, and he asked if i was still fishing. i replied in the affirmative, to which he stated that he was hoping to see if his dog would swim. i told him that would scare the fish away, to which he replied by saying, "no more than you being in the water." Sounds as if you both had a bit of attitude. Fish will scatter. They will come back. I've watched experienced fish who were ignoring me have flipping hysterics when they saw another person standing on the bank. Gone. In ten minutes they're back again or others have moved in. Seen it on a couple of fish watching (and rod waving) occasions. He was wrong about you scaring the fish off, though. As long as you weren't outlined in their sight and weren't moving around much, no, you don't scare them as much as a splashy dog would. He shouldn't have been trying to have the dog learn to swim in moving water, anyway. Ponds or lakes with gently shelving bottoms are best for that. But if that was his choice, why not some other stretch of water? Weird story. Unless he was as maladroit at pickup lines as he was about dog training and was trying to hit on you? -- rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing. Often taunted by trout. Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it. http://www.visi.com/~cyli |
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wrote ... . Gone. In ten minutes they're back again or others have moved in. Seen it on a couple of fish watching (and rod waving) occasions. I've always fished with a pooch by my side, or more likely, swiming through the pool I was just about to cast through. My current pup is a French Brittany and listens very well, and is learning to stay by my side just fine. The fellow I met on the Lackawaxen Monday commented on what a swell little fellow he was. Other fishing dogs have not always been such gentlemen, though. And, I suppose, neither was the master. One stream we used to like to fish was the Bushkill. A swell stream well-stocked by the BSA, and a permit to fish could be had for a small donation. The pool closest to the parking lot was always packed with wall-to-wall sports, the next pool maybe two fishermen, and the rest of the stream would be empty, despite miles of excellent water in beautiful surroundings, and lots of trout. On one visit, I decided to have a little fun with the first pool sports. Half a dozen or so fellows were crowed into the pool, casting a little frantically, trying to catch a fish in front of the other guys in some sort of bizzare male dominance ritual. Somewhat type A myself, I decided to join the fray. Dog and I stepped into the pool, and Rusty immediately went to the center and shook himself with a great splash, which certainly got the attention of the other fellows. I'm sure at this point they were admiring such a handsome dog, and probably my vintage Wright & McGill Dandy rod and Precisionbilt Mosquito reel as well, as these poor fellows had only new shiney Orvis gear to play with. I tied on a Spruce Creek and ripped it through the fast current at the tail of the pool, and immediately had a nice rainbow on. After releasing the the fish, I remarked, "C'mon Rusty, these fish are too easy to catch here.," and we went upstream. I'm sure it made those fellows day to see such a pair of fine fisherman as Rusty and me were. I don't believe anyone ever had a finer fishing buddy than Rusty was. One thing that does happen to me while fishing - them durn wimmins staring. Let me point out that I'm not an attractive fellow. My last date used the phrase "freak of nature". Picture the unholy love child of Mr. Bean and Lurch, hit in the face by a truck. Now ugly it up a little. I'm nobody's %$#@ dream date. And yet, when I'm in the stream looking like I'm swatting bees with an oversized blade of grass, women sit and watch. They stare. Groups of young girls sit watching. Women in long skirts come seemingly out of nowhere into the middle of a gorge and photograph us. They turn their easels around and start painting us. The stop and make small talk. WTFF. When I meet a woman in a normal social situation and ask her for a date, she screams "What ARE You?!!" and runs away screaming and flailing her arms over her head. When I've clearly got something more interesting to do - fishing - they come crawling out of the rocks like hellgramites. Go away, I'm married to the sea, dammit. Unless, of course, she has a 4WD with a beach permit. Timothy Juvenal |
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rw wrote in message om...
I made a joke about scaring the fish, greeted his parents politely, and moved on, more-or-less like the guy with the dog. When I lived in Boulder, CO, people (and dogs) were regular interruptions to fishing in the in-town portion of the creek. More than once I had people deliberately throw sticks in the pool I was fishing so their lab would jump in (we're talking 8'x10' pools here -- it's a creek). They never got a rise out of me. I agree that the best way to handle it is politeness if that's all you can manage -- but friendliness a la rw above is even better. There's always other pools to fish. If we fishermen start "reacting" to the rest of the public, that'll be the fastest way to get water in "busy" places closed to fishing, and it'll be one more notch in the anti's campaign against blood sports. Another thing with fly-fishing in places with other people -- always be aware of your backcast. I've seen guys taking their backcast right over busy walking trails without ever checking for people. Bad, bad, image for us ffpeople. Remember, you represent all of us when you fish. Jon. |
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I made a joke about scaring the fish, greeted his parents politely, and moved on, more-or-less like the guy with the dog. When I lived in Boulder, CO, people (and dogs) were regular interruptions to fishing in the in-town portion of the creek. More than once I had people deliberately throw sticks in the pool I was fishing so their lab would jump in (we're talking 8'x10' pools here -- it's a creek). They never got a rise out of me. I agree that the best way to handle it is politeness if that's all you can manage -- but friendliness a la rw above is even better. There's always other pools to fish. If we fishermen start "reacting" to the rest of the public, that'll be the fastest way to get water in "busy" places closed to fishing, and it'll be one more notch in the anti's campaign against blood sports. Another thing with fly-fishing in places with other people -- always be aware of your backcast. I've seen guys taking their backcast right over busy walking trails without ever checking for people. Bad, bad, image for us ffpeople. Remember, you represent all of us when you fish. Jon. |
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Jonathan Cook wrote I agree that the best way to handle it is politeness if that's all you can manage -- but friendliness a la rw above is even better. There's always other pools to fish. If we fishermen start "reacting" to the rest of the public, that'll be the fastest way to get water in "busy" places closed to fishing, and it'll be one more notch in the anti's campaign against blood sports. "blood sport" would be a perfect description of what kind of activity someone who tossed a stick into a pool where james macdonald roberts was fishing would become engaged in, and right away. not that that's a *good* thing... yfitons wayno |
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I am, and I figured you had mutated long ago, but I believe that it involves
more than an additional toe. Mark wrote in message ... On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 22:47:10 -0400, "Mark H. Bowen" wrote: You've gotta actually get out and fish first Dickie! And, are you absolutely certain about that guy thing. One never really knows, medium being what is and all that, ya know? mark I know what you mean...I've always suspected that you were really a miniature poodle called "Francoise" that had miraculously learned to type... HTH, Dickie ...hey, last time I had to count to 11, I was a guy... |
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I am, and I figured you had mutated long ago, but I believe that it involves
more than an additional toe. Mark wrote in message ... On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 22:47:10 -0400, "Mark H. Bowen" wrote: You've gotta actually get out and fish first Dickie! And, are you absolutely certain about that guy thing. One never really knows, medium being what is and all that, ya know? mark I know what you mean...I've always suspected that you were really a miniature poodle called "Francoise" that had miraculously learned to type... HTH, Dickie ...hey, last time I had to count to 11, I was a guy... |
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wrote in message ... On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 16:37:45 -0400, "snakefiddler" wrote: (snipped) i stood nearly waist deep in water, and was feeling good about my casting, enjoying a few strikes, when a hiker came along with his dog. he saw me eyeballing him, as he and his canine edged along the bank, as i got out to change my fly, and he asked if i was still fishing. i replied in the affirmative, to which he stated that he was hoping to see if his dog would swim. i told him that would scare the fish away, to which he replied by saying, "no more than you being in the water." Sounds as if you both had a bit of attitude. i don't know that we had attitude, but we certainly had our own agendas.... Fish will scatter. They will come back. I've watched experienced fish who were ignoring me have flipping hysterics when they saw another person standing on the bank. Gone. In ten minutes they're back again or others have moved in. Seen it on a couple of fish watching (and rod waving) occasions. He was wrong about you scaring the fish off, though. As long as you weren't outlined in their sight and weren't moving around much, no, you don't scare them as much as a splashy dog would. that's what i figured He shouldn't have been trying to have the dog learn to swim in moving water, anyway. Ponds or lakes with gently shelving bottoms are best for that. But if that was his choice, why not some other stretch of water? Weird story. Unless he was as maladroit at pickup lines as he was about dog training and was trying to hit on you? well, if that were the case he would have done much better with a line like, "god, you have a nice.....cast." ;-) snakefiddler rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing. Often taunted by trout. Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it. http://www.visi.com/~cyli |
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wrote in message ... On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 16:37:45 -0400, "snakefiddler" wrote: (snipped) i stood nearly waist deep in water, and was feeling good about my casting, enjoying a few strikes, when a hiker came along with his dog. he saw me eyeballing him, as he and his canine edged along the bank, as i got out to change my fly, and he asked if i was still fishing. i replied in the affirmative, to which he stated that he was hoping to see if his dog would swim. i told him that would scare the fish away, to which he replied by saying, "no more than you being in the water." Sounds as if you both had a bit of attitude. i don't know that we had attitude, but we certainly had our own agendas.... Fish will scatter. They will come back. I've watched experienced fish who were ignoring me have flipping hysterics when they saw another person standing on the bank. Gone. In ten minutes they're back again or others have moved in. Seen it on a couple of fish watching (and rod waving) occasions. He was wrong about you scaring the fish off, though. As long as you weren't outlined in their sight and weren't moving around much, no, you don't scare them as much as a splashy dog would. that's what i figured He shouldn't have been trying to have the dog learn to swim in moving water, anyway. Ponds or lakes with gently shelving bottoms are best for that. But if that was his choice, why not some other stretch of water? Weird story. Unless he was as maladroit at pickup lines as he was about dog training and was trying to hit on you? well, if that were the case he would have done much better with a line like, "god, you have a nice.....cast." ;-) snakefiddler rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing. Often taunted by trout. Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it. http://www.visi.com/~cyli |
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"snakefiddler" wrote: i thanked him, said i appreciated it, to which he replied, 'no problem." so, who has the "right of way?" naturally, i think i do. i was there first, and he could take his dog to another part of the stream. any of ya'll had this happen- what did you do? You must be one ugly chick. Slofly says you ugly chicks should just kill yourself. |
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"snakefiddler" wrote: i thanked him, said i appreciated it, to which he replied, 'no problem." so, who has the "right of way?" naturally, i think i do. i was there first, and he could take his dog to another part of the stream. any of ya'll had this happen- what did you do? You must be one ugly chick. Slofly says you ugly chicks should just kill yourself. |
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Shoot the dog! Shoot the dog! (Back to my room now) wrote in message ... On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 16:37:45 -0400, "snakefiddler" wrote: (snipped) i stood nearly waist deep in water, and was feeling good about my casting, enjoying a few strikes, when a hiker came along with his dog. he saw me eyeballing him, as he and his canine edged along the bank, as i got out to change my fly, and he asked if i was still fishing. i replied in the affirmative, to which he stated that he was hoping to see if his dog would swim. i told him that would scare the fish away, to which he replied by saying, "no more than you being in the water." Sounds as if you both had a bit of attitude. Fish will scatter. They will come back. I've watched experienced fish who were ignoring me have flipping hysterics when they saw another person standing on the bank. Gone. In ten minutes they're back again or others have moved in. Seen it on a couple of fish watching (and rod waving) occasions. He was wrong about you scaring the fish off, though. As long as you weren't outlined in their sight and weren't moving around much, no, you don't scare them as much as a splashy dog would. He shouldn't have been trying to have the dog learn to swim in moving water, anyway. Ponds or lakes with gently shelving bottoms are best for that. But if that was his choice, why not some other stretch of water? Weird story. Unless he was as maladroit at pickup lines as he was about dog training and was trying to hit on you? -- rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing. Often taunted by trout. Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it. http://www.visi.com/~cyli |
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Shoot the dog! Shoot the dog! (Back to my room now) wrote in message ... On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 16:37:45 -0400, "snakefiddler" wrote: (snipped) i stood nearly waist deep in water, and was feeling good about my casting, enjoying a few strikes, when a hiker came along with his dog. he saw me eyeballing him, as he and his canine edged along the bank, as i got out to change my fly, and he asked if i was still fishing. i replied in the affirmative, to which he stated that he was hoping to see if his dog would swim. i told him that would scare the fish away, to which he replied by saying, "no more than you being in the water." Sounds as if you both had a bit of attitude. Fish will scatter. They will come back. I've watched experienced fish who were ignoring me have flipping hysterics when they saw another person standing on the bank. Gone. In ten minutes they're back again or others have moved in. Seen it on a couple of fish watching (and rod waving) occasions. He was wrong about you scaring the fish off, though. As long as you weren't outlined in their sight and weren't moving around much, no, you don't scare them as much as a splashy dog would. He shouldn't have been trying to have the dog learn to swim in moving water, anyway. Ponds or lakes with gently shelving bottoms are best for that. But if that was his choice, why not some other stretch of water? Weird story. Unless he was as maladroit at pickup lines as he was about dog training and was trying to hit on you? -- rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing. Often taunted by trout. Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it. http://www.visi.com/~cyli |
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