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SteveB July 7th, 2004 06:47 AM

Brown trout question
 
In advance, I apologize to the purists here. I was not fly fishing because
of the nature of this stream. Overgrown trees, brush, boulders, all manner
of things. It was frustrating enough with a short spinning rod and a trout
spinner. I would have probably broken a fly rod into twelve pieces and come
out muttering if I had been trying to fish the creek with a flyrod.

A couple of weeks ago, I went fishing in a very small creek. The creek ran
through boulders, and down a ravine, so it was fast in places, and never
very wide. It did have some deep runs and small pools that were one to
three feet deep.

I caught two brown trout that were 14" long, which surprised me from looking
at the stream. One of them was caught by tossing the lure into a pool and
pulling it back through a deep spot. A really fishy looking place. The
second one, I did the same thing, but got no bite in the fishy looking pool
or the deep run. I had the lure about two feet from the end of my pole,
with the tip down, so I just dragged it right in front of me through a run
that was about two feet deep but only about 18" wide. The brown took it
literally at my feet.

I thought that browns were supposed to be very cautious and wary. The water
was turbid because of the amount of water that was coming through small
passages. Was this just a dumb hungry trout, or did he just not see me? I
caught him right at my feet. I want to understand them so the next time I
go, I can catch a couple more nice ones.

And what is the difference between a stream and a creek?

Steve

BTW, this creek/stream was big enough that I did manage to fall into one of
the biggest holes, and go completely under water......... two way radio,
hearing aids, and all.



Stephen Welsh July 7th, 2004 07:50 AM

Brown trout question
 
"SteveB" wrote in
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In advance, I apologize to the purists here. I was not fly fishing
because of the nature of this stream. Overgrown trees, brush,
boulders, all manner of things. It was frustrating enough with a
short spinning rod and a trout spinner. I would have probably broken
a fly rod into twelve pieces and come out muttering if I had been
trying to fish the creek with a flyrod.


That's no excuse ... there are ways of fishing flys in these waters
you may need to be shown how though.


[snip]

I thought that browns were supposed to be very cautious and wary.


:-) Even the wary must eat.

The
water was turbid because of the amount of water that was coming
through small passages. Was this just a dumb hungry trout, or did he
just not see me? I caught him right at my feet. I want to understand
them so the next time I go, I can catch a couple more nice ones.

And what is the difference between a stream and a creek?


Deepends where you come from I suspect ... here there's none. When
referring to streams here they could be a creek, river, rivulet, beck or
even a brook.


Steve

BTW, this creek/stream was big enough that I did manage to fall into
one of the biggest holes, and go completely under water......... two
way radio, hearing aids, and all.


A Full electro-Reid?

;-)

Steve
(hope the electronics survived the dunking ok)




George Cleveland July 7th, 2004 11:46 AM

Brown trout question
 
On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 22:47:58 -0700, "SteveB"
wrote:

In advance, I apologize to the purists here. I was not fly fishing because
of the nature of this stream. Overgrown trees, brush, boulders, all manner
of things. It was frustrating enough with a short spinning rod and a trout
spinner. I would have probably broken a fly rod into twelve pieces and come
out muttering if I had been trying to fish the creek with a flyrod.

A couple of weeks ago, I went fishing in a very small creek. The creek ran
through boulders, and down a ravine, so it was fast in places, and never
very wide. It did have some deep runs and small pools that were one to
three feet deep.

I caught two brown trout that were 14" long, which surprised me from looking
at the stream. One of them was caught by tossing the lure into a pool and
pulling it back through a deep spot. A really fishy looking place. The
second one, I did the same thing, but got no bite in the fishy looking pool
or the deep run. I had the lure about two feet from the end of my pole,
with the tip down, so I just dragged it right in front of me through a run
that was about two feet deep but only about 18" wide. The brown took it
literally at my feet.

I thought that browns were supposed to be very cautious and wary. The water
was turbid because of the amount of water that was coming through small
passages. Was this just a dumb hungry trout, or did he just not see me? I
caught him right at my feet. I want to understand them so the next time I
go, I can catch a couple more nice ones.

And what is the difference between a stream and a creek?

Steve

BTW, this creek/stream was big enough that I did manage to fall into one of
the biggest holes, and go completely under water......... two way radio,
hearing aids, and all.



If the stream was big enough to have a hole that was over your head,
then there are probably browns there that will dwarf your 14"ers. As
far as why the one took at your feet, he was either unaware of your
presence or didn't care. A good example of an anecdotal experience
that doesn't give a good idea of general (in this cae, trout)
behavior. A creek is a stream but not all streams are creeks. The
Amazon is also a stream.


g.c.

snakefiddler July 7th, 2004 05:01 PM

Brown trout question
 

"SteveB" wrote in message
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In advance, I apologize



whoa, an apology on roff-
you're not from around here, are you? ;-)

snakefiddler




to the purists here. I was not fly fishing because
of the nature of this stream. Overgrown trees, brush, boulders, all

manner
of things. It was frustrating enough with a short spinning rod and a

trout
spinner. I would have probably broken a fly rod into twelve pieces and

come
out muttering if I had been trying to fish the creek with a flyrod.

A couple of weeks ago, I went fishing in a very small creek. The creek

ran
through boulders, and down a ravine, so it was fast in places, and never
very wide. It did have some deep runs and small pools that were one to
three feet deep.

I caught two brown trout that were 14" long, which surprised me from

looking
at the stream. One of them was caught by tossing the lure into a pool and
pulling it back through a deep spot. A really fishy looking place. The
second one, I did the same thing, but got no bite in the fishy looking

pool
or the deep run. I had the lure about two feet from the end of my pole,
with the tip down, so I just dragged it right in front of me through a run
that was about two feet deep but only about 18" wide. The brown took it
literally at my feet.

I thought that browns were supposed to be very cautious and wary. The

water
was turbid because of the amount of water that was coming through small
passages. Was this just a dumb hungry trout, or did he just not see me?

I
caught him right at my feet. I want to understand them so the next time I
go, I can catch a couple more nice ones.

And what is the difference between a stream and a creek?

Steve

BTW, this creek/stream was big enough that I did manage to fall into one

of
the biggest holes, and go completely under water......... two way radio,
hearing aids, and all.





Flying Squirrel July 7th, 2004 09:15 PM

Brown trout question
 
"SteveB" wrote in message
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I thought that browns were supposed to be very cautious and wary.


I've wondered if their rep for being smarter isn't just due to an increasing
preference for nocturnal feeding as they get bigger. The smaller brownies
I've fished for seem no more cautious than any other trout.

I wonder if surviving populations of rainbows or brookies wouldn't become
equally cautious/night feeders if subjected to centuries of catch and kill,
like Old World browns.



Flying Squirrel July 7th, 2004 09:15 PM

Brown trout question
 
"SteveB" wrote in message
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I thought that browns were supposed to be very cautious and wary.


I've wondered if their rep for being smarter isn't just due to an increasing
preference for nocturnal feeding as they get bigger. The smaller brownies
I've fished for seem no more cautious than any other trout.

I wonder if surviving populations of rainbows or brookies wouldn't become
equally cautious/night feeders if subjected to centuries of catch and kill,
like Old World browns.



SteveB July 8th, 2004 12:27 AM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 

"Stephen Welsh" wrote in message
. 1.4...
"SteveB" wrote in
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BTW, this creek/stream was big enough that I did manage to fall into
one of the biggest holes, and go completely under water......... two
way radio, hearing aids, and all.


A Full electro-Reid?

;-)

Steve
(hope the electronics survived the dunking ok)




As an aside (true story), I got back to camp and took off the wet stuff. I
sat my hearing aids on the barbecue, since it was a black surface, and I
thought they would dry out okay. I sat the two way Cobra radio on the table
in the sunshine. (It survived the dunking and subsequent drying out.)
Stainless S+W was okay, too after drying out.

There was not a problem until later when I turned on the barbecue and then
about ten minutes started looking for my hearing aids.

Long story short, they are in the shop, and I am waiting to see if it is
going to cost me $375 to fix these, or $2800 for new ones.

Have you ever done something so stupid that you expect men with white coats
are going to come running up and throw a big piece of shrimp trawl net over
you?

Steve



SteveB July 8th, 2004 12:27 AM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 

"Stephen Welsh" wrote in message
. 1.4...
"SteveB" wrote in
news:i8MGc.11020$nc.7540@fed1read03:




BTW, this creek/stream was big enough that I did manage to fall into
one of the biggest holes, and go completely under water......... two
way radio, hearing aids, and all.


A Full electro-Reid?

;-)

Steve
(hope the electronics survived the dunking ok)




As an aside (true story), I got back to camp and took off the wet stuff. I
sat my hearing aids on the barbecue, since it was a black surface, and I
thought they would dry out okay. I sat the two way Cobra radio on the table
in the sunshine. (It survived the dunking and subsequent drying out.)
Stainless S+W was okay, too after drying out.

There was not a problem until later when I turned on the barbecue and then
about ten minutes started looking for my hearing aids.

Long story short, they are in the shop, and I am waiting to see if it is
going to cost me $375 to fix these, or $2800 for new ones.

Have you ever done something so stupid that you expect men with white coats
are going to come running up and throw a big piece of shrimp trawl net over
you?

Steve



Mark H. Bowen July 8th, 2004 01:14 AM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 
Nothin' quite as expensive as your misfortune, but I do have a tendency to
yank Ken Fortenberry's chain--I give him lots of slack, he starts runnin' as
hard as a fat-assed pseudo marathoner can and I just yank back real hard.
Kinda funny really.

Mark
"SteveB" wrote in message
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"Stephen Welsh" wrote in message
. 1.4...
"SteveB" wrote in
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BTW, this creek/stream was big enough that I did manage to fall into
one of the biggest holes, and go completely under water......... two
way radio, hearing aids, and all.


A Full electro-Reid?

;-)

Steve
(hope the electronics survived the dunking ok)




As an aside (true story), I got back to camp and took off the wet stuff.

I
sat my hearing aids on the barbecue, since it was a black surface, and I
thought they would dry out okay. I sat the two way Cobra radio on the

table
in the sunshine. (It survived the dunking and subsequent drying out.)
Stainless S+W was okay, too after drying out.

There was not a problem until later when I turned on the barbecue and then
about ten minutes started looking for my hearing aids.

Long story short, they are in the shop, and I am waiting to see if it is
going to cost me $375 to fix these, or $2800 for new ones.

Have you ever done something so stupid that you expect men with white

coats
are going to come running up and throw a big piece of shrimp trawl net

over
you?

Steve





Mark H. Bowen July 8th, 2004 01:14 AM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 
Nothin' quite as expensive as your misfortune, but I do have a tendency to
yank Ken Fortenberry's chain--I give him lots of slack, he starts runnin' as
hard as a fat-assed pseudo marathoner can and I just yank back real hard.
Kinda funny really.

Mark
"SteveB" wrote in message
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"Stephen Welsh" wrote in message
. 1.4...
"SteveB" wrote in
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BTW, this creek/stream was big enough that I did manage to fall into
one of the biggest holes, and go completely under water......... two
way radio, hearing aids, and all.


A Full electro-Reid?

;-)

Steve
(hope the electronics survived the dunking ok)




As an aside (true story), I got back to camp and took off the wet stuff.

I
sat my hearing aids on the barbecue, since it was a black surface, and I
thought they would dry out okay. I sat the two way Cobra radio on the

table
in the sunshine. (It survived the dunking and subsequent drying out.)
Stainless S+W was okay, too after drying out.

There was not a problem until later when I turned on the barbecue and then
about ten minutes started looking for my hearing aids.

Long story short, they are in the shop, and I am waiting to see if it is
going to cost me $375 to fix these, or $2800 for new ones.

Have you ever done something so stupid that you expect men with white

coats
are going to come running up and throw a big piece of shrimp trawl net

over
you?

Steve





Wolfgang July 8th, 2004 01:33 AM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 

"SteveB" wrote in message
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"Stephen Welsh" wrote in message
. 1.4...
"SteveB" wrote in
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BTW, this creek/stream was big enough that I did manage to fall into
one of the biggest holes, and go completely under water......... two
way radio, hearing aids, and all.


A Full electro-Reid?

;-)

Steve
(hope the electronics survived the dunking ok)




As an aside (true story), I got back to camp and took off the wet stuff.

I
sat my hearing aids on the barbecue, since it was a black surface, and I
thought they would dry out okay. I sat the two way Cobra radio on the

table
in the sunshine. (It survived the dunking and subsequent drying out.)
Stainless S+W was okay, too after drying out.

There was not a problem until later when I turned on the barbecue and then
about ten minutes started looking for my hearing aids.

Long story short, they are in the shop, and I am waiting to see if it is
going to cost me $375 to fix these, or $2800 for new ones.

Have you ever done something so stupid that you expect men with white

coats
are going to come running up and throw a big piece of shrimp trawl net

over
you?


Nope.......never fished with a gun.

Wolfgang



SteveB July 8th, 2004 04:50 AM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 

"Wolfgang" wrote

Have you ever done something so stupid that you expect men with white

coats
are going to come running up and throw a big piece of shrimp trawl net

over
you?


Nope.......never fished with a gun.

Wolfgang


And what exactly does that mean?

Steve



SteveB July 8th, 2004 04:50 AM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 

"Wolfgang" wrote

Have you ever done something so stupid that you expect men with white

coats
are going to come running up and throw a big piece of shrimp trawl net

over
you?


Nope.......never fished with a gun.

Wolfgang


And what exactly does that mean?

Steve



Stephen Welsh July 8th, 2004 07:44 AM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 
"SteveB" wrote in
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There was not a problem until later when I turned on the barbecue and
then about ten minutes started looking for my hearing aids.

Long story short, they are in the shop, and I am waiting to see if it
is going to cost me $375 to fix these, or $2800 for new ones.


I showed your story to a similarly afflicted (hearing) colleague. She
didn't know whether to laugh or cry about the bbqing. The hearing gear
is jsut as expensive downunder.

Have you ever done something so stupid that you expect men with white
coats are going to come running up and throw a big piece of shrimp
trawl net over you?


Hmmm ... not sure ...I'd admit ... I do know they use 75% shade cloth
down this way, ozone, UV and all that.

;-)

Steve

Stephen Welsh July 8th, 2004 07:44 AM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 
"SteveB" wrote in
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There was not a problem until later when I turned on the barbecue and
then about ten minutes started looking for my hearing aids.

Long story short, they are in the shop, and I am waiting to see if it
is going to cost me $375 to fix these, or $2800 for new ones.


I showed your story to a similarly afflicted (hearing) colleague. She
didn't know whether to laugh or cry about the bbqing. The hearing gear
is jsut as expensive downunder.

Have you ever done something so stupid that you expect men with white
coats are going to come running up and throw a big piece of shrimp
trawl net over you?


Hmmm ... not sure ...I'd admit ... I do know they use 75% shade cloth
down this way, ozone, UV and all that.

;-)

Steve

riverman July 8th, 2004 10:25 AM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 

"SteveB" wrote in message
news:uF%Gc.12403$nc.671@fed1read03...

As an aside (true story), I got back to camp and took off the wet stuff.

I
sat my hearing aids on the barbecue, since it was a black surface, and I
thought they would dry out okay. I sat the two way Cobra radio on the

table
in the sunshine. (It survived the dunking and subsequent drying out.)
Stainless S+W was okay, too after drying out.

There was not a problem until later when I turned on the barbecue and then
about ten minutes started looking for my hearing aids.

Long story short, they are in the shop, and I am waiting to see if it is
going to cost me $375 to fix these, or $2800 for new ones.

Have you ever done something so stupid that you expect men with white

coats
are going to come running up and throw a big piece of shrimp trawl net

over
you?


Closest I came to that saga was three summers ago, while driving across
Finland and Norway, camping along the way with my girlfriend. She likes
those disgusting girlie mags ("Hello", etc) which I loathe to the core. One
afternoon, in camp, I went to go sit down on my campchair, and a copy of
"Vanity Fair" or something was on the seat, with some stupid cover article
saying something like "50 Ways to Dress Up For Your Man", so I irriatatingly
snatched it off the chair and tossed it on the table, rather roughly.

A few minutes later, she came by and said "Oh, have you seen my diamond
earrings? They were sitting on the magazine while I was looking for a
mirror..." They were valued at about what your hearing aids were, and we
never found even one of them in the tall grass.

--riverman



riverman July 8th, 2004 10:25 AM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 

"SteveB" wrote in message
news:uF%Gc.12403$nc.671@fed1read03...

As an aside (true story), I got back to camp and took off the wet stuff.

I
sat my hearing aids on the barbecue, since it was a black surface, and I
thought they would dry out okay. I sat the two way Cobra radio on the

table
in the sunshine. (It survived the dunking and subsequent drying out.)
Stainless S+W was okay, too after drying out.

There was not a problem until later when I turned on the barbecue and then
about ten minutes started looking for my hearing aids.

Long story short, they are in the shop, and I am waiting to see if it is
going to cost me $375 to fix these, or $2800 for new ones.

Have you ever done something so stupid that you expect men with white

coats
are going to come running up and throw a big piece of shrimp trawl net

over
you?


Closest I came to that saga was three summers ago, while driving across
Finland and Norway, camping along the way with my girlfriend. She likes
those disgusting girlie mags ("Hello", etc) which I loathe to the core. One
afternoon, in camp, I went to go sit down on my campchair, and a copy of
"Vanity Fair" or something was on the seat, with some stupid cover article
saying something like "50 Ways to Dress Up For Your Man", so I irriatatingly
snatched it off the chair and tossed it on the table, rather roughly.

A few minutes later, she came by and said "Oh, have you seen my diamond
earrings? They were sitting on the magazine while I was looking for a
mirror..." They were valued at about what your hearing aids were, and we
never found even one of them in the tall grass.

--riverman



Wolfgang July 8th, 2004 11:35 AM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 

"SteveB" wrote in message
news:Bw3Hc.12824$nc.4803@fed1read03...

"Wolfgang" wrote

Have you ever done something so stupid that you expect men with white

coats
are going to come running up and throw a big piece of shrimp trawl net

over
you?


Nope.......never fished with a gun.

Wolfgang


And what exactly does that mean?


I've been an avid fly fisher for about twenty years. Prior to taking up fly
fishing, I spent a couple of years doing a lot of spin fishing after a
hiatus of about a decade and a half. In my youth I fished mainly with bait.
I never used a gun for any of that.

Better?

Wolfgang



Wolfgang July 8th, 2004 11:35 AM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 

"SteveB" wrote in message
news:Bw3Hc.12824$nc.4803@fed1read03...

"Wolfgang" wrote

Have you ever done something so stupid that you expect men with white

coats
are going to come running up and throw a big piece of shrimp trawl net

over
you?


Nope.......never fished with a gun.

Wolfgang


And what exactly does that mean?


I've been an avid fly fisher for about twenty years. Prior to taking up fly
fishing, I spent a couple of years doing a lot of spin fishing after a
hiatus of about a decade and a half. In my youth I fished mainly with bait.
I never used a gun for any of that.

Better?

Wolfgang



snakefiddler July 8th, 2004 11:49 AM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 

"riverman" wrote in message
...

"SteveB" wrote in message
news:uF%Gc.12403$nc.671@fed1read03...

As an aside (true story), I got back to camp and took off the wet stuff.

I
sat my hearing aids on the barbecue, since it was a black surface, and I
thought they would dry out okay. I sat the two way Cobra radio on the

table
in the sunshine. (It survived the dunking and subsequent drying out.)
Stainless S+W was okay, too after drying out.

There was not a problem until later when I turned on the barbecue and

then
about ten minutes started looking for my hearing aids.

Long story short, they are in the shop, and I am waiting to see if it is
going to cost me $375 to fix these, or $2800 for new ones.

Have you ever done something so stupid that you expect men with white

coats
are going to come running up and throw a big piece of shrimp trawl net

over
you?


Closest I came to that saga was three summers ago, while driving across
Finland and Norway, camping along the way with my girlfriend. She likes
those disgusting girlie mags ("Hello", etc) which I loathe to the core.

One
afternoon, in camp, I went to go sit down on my campchair, and a copy of
"Vanity Fair" or something was on the seat, with some stupid cover article
saying something like "50 Ways to Dress Up For Your Man", so I

irriatatingly
snatched it off the chair and tossed it on the table, rather roughly.

A few minutes later, she came by and said "Oh, have you seen my diamond
earrings? They were sitting on the magazine while I was looking for a
mirror..." They were valued at about what your hearing aids were, and we
never found even one of them in the tall grass.



OUCH!
snake

--riverman





riverman July 8th, 2004 09:21 PM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 

"riverman" wrote in message



Closest I came to that saga was three summers ago, while driving across
Finland and Norway, camping along the way with my girlfriend. She likes
those disgusting girlie mags ("Hello", etc) which I loathe to the core.

One
afternoon, in camp, I went to go sit down on my campchair, and a copy of
"Vanity Fair" or something was on the seat, with some stupid cover

article
saying something like "50 Ways to Dress Up For Your Man", so I

irriatatingly
snatched it off the chair and tossed it on the table, rather roughly.

A few minutes later, she came by and said "Oh, have you seen my diamond
earrings? They were sitting on the magazine while I was looking for a
mirror..." They were valued at about what your hearing aids were, and we
never found even one of them in the tall grass.



"Mark H. Bowen" wrote in message
.. .
Separate campsites from that point on?


No, but I did spend the next 4 or 5 hours scouring the ground, inch by
inch, blade by blade. No freaking idea how they got past me. Even now, I'm
tempted to back to that campground with a metal detector and find those damn
earrings. I'm pretty sure I'd recognize every little pebble and anthill!

--riverman



riverman July 8th, 2004 09:49 PM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 

"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
. 1.4...
No, but I did spend the next 4 or 5 hours scouring the ground, inch
by inch, blade by blade. No freaking idea how they got past me. Even
now, I'm tempted to back to that campground with a metal detector and
find those damn earrings. I'm pretty sure I'd recognize every little
pebble and anthill!

--riverman


Are you sure they existed in the first place? :-)


OOohhhh, very clever!!

Nah, I knew of them, and had seen them on the table earlier. They existed
alright....

--riverman



Mark H. Bowen July 8th, 2004 10:05 PM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 
Separate campsites from that point on?

Mark
"riverman" wrote in message
...

"SteveB" wrote in message
news:uF%Gc.12403$nc.671@fed1read03...

As an aside (true story), I got back to camp and took off the wet stuff.

I
sat my hearing aids on the barbecue, since it was a black surface, and I
thought they would dry out okay. I sat the two way Cobra radio on the

table
in the sunshine. (It survived the dunking and subsequent drying out.)
Stainless S+W was okay, too after drying out.

There was not a problem until later when I turned on the barbecue and

then
about ten minutes started looking for my hearing aids.

Long story short, they are in the shop, and I am waiting to see if it is
going to cost me $375 to fix these, or $2800 for new ones.

Have you ever done something so stupid that you expect men with white

coats
are going to come running up and throw a big piece of shrimp trawl net

over
you?


Closest I came to that saga was three summers ago, while driving across
Finland and Norway, camping along the way with my girlfriend. She likes
those disgusting girlie mags ("Hello", etc) which I loathe to the core.

One
afternoon, in camp, I went to go sit down on my campchair, and a copy of
"Vanity Fair" or something was on the seat, with some stupid cover article
saying something like "50 Ways to Dress Up For Your Man", so I

irriatatingly
snatched it off the chair and tossed it on the table, rather roughly.

A few minutes later, she came by and said "Oh, have you seen my diamond
earrings? They were sitting on the magazine while I was looking for a
mirror..." They were valued at about what your hearing aids were, and we
never found even one of them in the tall grass.

--riverman





Mark H. Bowen July 8th, 2004 10:05 PM

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Separate campsites from that point on?

Mark
"riverman" wrote in message
...

"SteveB" wrote in message
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As an aside (true story), I got back to camp and took off the wet stuff.

I
sat my hearing aids on the barbecue, since it was a black surface, and I
thought they would dry out okay. I sat the two way Cobra radio on the

table
in the sunshine. (It survived the dunking and subsequent drying out.)
Stainless S+W was okay, too after drying out.

There was not a problem until later when I turned on the barbecue and

then
about ten minutes started looking for my hearing aids.

Long story short, they are in the shop, and I am waiting to see if it is
going to cost me $375 to fix these, or $2800 for new ones.

Have you ever done something so stupid that you expect men with white

coats
are going to come running up and throw a big piece of shrimp trawl net

over
you?


Closest I came to that saga was three summers ago, while driving across
Finland and Norway, camping along the way with my girlfriend. She likes
those disgusting girlie mags ("Hello", etc) which I loathe to the core.

One
afternoon, in camp, I went to go sit down on my campchair, and a copy of
"Vanity Fair" or something was on the seat, with some stupid cover article
saying something like "50 Ways to Dress Up For Your Man", so I

irriatatingly
snatched it off the chair and tossed it on the table, rather roughly.

A few minutes later, she came by and said "Oh, have you seen my diamond
earrings? They were sitting on the magazine while I was looking for a
mirror..." They were valued at about what your hearing aids were, and we
never found even one of them in the tall grass.

--riverman





Scott Seidman July 8th, 2004 10:24 PM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 
"riverman" wrote in
:


"riverman" wrote in message



Closest I came to that saga was three summers ago, while driving
across Finland and Norway, camping along the way with my
girlfriend. She likes those disgusting girlie mags ("Hello", etc)
which I loathe to the core.

One
afternoon, in camp, I went to go sit down on my campchair, and a
copy of "Vanity Fair" or something was on the seat, with some
stupid cover

article
saying something like "50 Ways to Dress Up For Your Man", so I

irriatatingly
snatched it off the chair and tossed it on the table, rather
roughly.

A few minutes later, she came by and said "Oh, have you seen my
diamond earrings? They were sitting on the magazine while I was
looking for a mirror..." They were valued at about what your
hearing aids were, and we never found even one of them in the tall
grass.



"Mark H. Bowen" wrote in message
.. .
Separate campsites from that point on?


No, but I did spend the next 4 or 5 hours scouring the ground, inch
by inch, blade by blade. No freaking idea how they got past me. Even
now, I'm tempted to back to that campground with a metal detector and
find those damn earrings. I'm pretty sure I'd recognize every little
pebble and anthill!

--riverman




Are you sure they existed in the first place? :-)


Scott Seidman July 8th, 2004 10:24 PM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 
"riverman" wrote in
:


"riverman" wrote in message



Closest I came to that saga was three summers ago, while driving
across Finland and Norway, camping along the way with my
girlfriend. She likes those disgusting girlie mags ("Hello", etc)
which I loathe to the core.

One
afternoon, in camp, I went to go sit down on my campchair, and a
copy of "Vanity Fair" or something was on the seat, with some
stupid cover

article
saying something like "50 Ways to Dress Up For Your Man", so I

irriatatingly
snatched it off the chair and tossed it on the table, rather
roughly.

A few minutes later, she came by and said "Oh, have you seen my
diamond earrings? They were sitting on the magazine while I was
looking for a mirror..." They were valued at about what your
hearing aids were, and we never found even one of them in the tall
grass.



"Mark H. Bowen" wrote in message
.. .
Separate campsites from that point on?


No, but I did spend the next 4 or 5 hours scouring the ground, inch
by inch, blade by blade. No freaking idea how they got past me. Even
now, I'm tempted to back to that campground with a metal detector and
find those damn earrings. I'm pretty sure I'd recognize every little
pebble and anthill!

--riverman




Are you sure they existed in the first place? :-)


Mark H. Bowen July 8th, 2004 10:36 PM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 
Hell, she may not have been his girlfriend, for all we know. What with all
the nefarious motives lurkin' about ROFF, can we even be sure riverman is
really who he says he is? And how can I know for certain that you are
Scott?

Mark --Who, if I didn't know better, would swear that I am Chester the
Molester?
"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
. 1.4...
"riverman" wrote in
:


"riverman" wrote in message



Closest I came to that saga was three summers ago, while driving
across Finland and Norway, camping along the way with my
girlfriend. She likes those disgusting girlie mags ("Hello", etc)
which I loathe to the core.
One
afternoon, in camp, I went to go sit down on my campchair, and a
copy of "Vanity Fair" or something was on the seat, with some
stupid cover

article
saying something like "50 Ways to Dress Up For Your Man", so I
irriatatingly
snatched it off the chair and tossed it on the table, rather
roughly.

A few minutes later, she came by and said "Oh, have you seen my
diamond earrings? They were sitting on the magazine while I was
looking for a mirror..." They were valued at about what your
hearing aids were, and we never found even one of them in the tall
grass.



"Mark H. Bowen" wrote in message
.. .
Separate campsites from that point on?


No, but I did spend the next 4 or 5 hours scouring the ground, inch
by inch, blade by blade. No freaking idea how they got past me. Even
now, I'm tempted to back to that campground with a metal detector and
find those damn earrings. I'm pretty sure I'd recognize every little
pebble and anthill!

--riverman




Are you sure they existed in the first place? :-)




SteveB July 9th, 2004 12:59 AM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 

"snakefiddler" wrote They were valued at about
what your hearing aids were, and we
never found even one of them in the tall grass.




And needless to say, you probably didn't encounter any tall grass or any
kind for the rest of the trip. If you get my drift .....................

Steve ;-)



SteveB July 9th, 2004 12:59 AM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 

"snakefiddler" wrote They were valued at about
what your hearing aids were, and we
never found even one of them in the tall grass.




And needless to say, you probably didn't encounter any tall grass or any
kind for the rest of the trip. If you get my drift .....................

Steve ;-)



SteveB July 9th, 2004 01:02 AM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 

"riverman" wrote


No, but I did spend the next 4 or 5 hours scouring the ground, inch by
inch, blade by blade. No freaking idea how they got past me. Even now, I'm
tempted to back to that campground with a metal detector and find those

damn
earrings. I'm pretty sure I'd recognize every little pebble and anthill!

--riverman



I have metal detected for years. I lost one of those tiny sprayers on a
mist system in the grass. It was made out of brass. It took me one minute
to find it. I have found lots of things for friends, and would bet a
sixpack that I could have found it for you. If you do return there, with a
metal detector, you will probably find it.

Take your rod along, just in case you encounter any fishing spots.

Steve



SteveB July 9th, 2004 01:02 AM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 

"riverman" wrote


No, but I did spend the next 4 or 5 hours scouring the ground, inch by
inch, blade by blade. No freaking idea how they got past me. Even now, I'm
tempted to back to that campground with a metal detector and find those

damn
earrings. I'm pretty sure I'd recognize every little pebble and anthill!

--riverman



I have metal detected for years. I lost one of those tiny sprayers on a
mist system in the grass. It was made out of brass. It took me one minute
to find it. I have found lots of things for friends, and would bet a
sixpack that I could have found it for you. If you do return there, with a
metal detector, you will probably find it.

Take your rod along, just in case you encounter any fishing spots.

Steve



SteveB July 9th, 2004 01:07 AM

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

"SteveB" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote

Have you ever done something so stupid that you expect men with

white
coats
are going to come running up and throw a big piece of shrimp trawl

net
over
you?

Nope.......never fished with a gun.

Wolfgang


And what exactly does that mean?


I've been an avid fly fisher for about twenty years. Prior to taking up

fly
fishing, I spent a couple of years doing a lot of spin fishing after a
hiatus of about a decade and a half. In my youth I fished mainly with

bait.
I never used a gun for any of that.

Better?

Wolfgang



At least now I understand what you are talking about, and where you are
coming from.

I had a 5 way bypass and aortic valve replaced two+ years ago. I take
Coumadin, an anticoagulant. Snakes, particularly rattlers, mostly have
hemotoxins, meaning they attack the blood. Some, such as the Mojave Green
Rattlesnake have neurotoxins, just like a cobra.

A snakebite to me would probably be fatal. I carry a gun with snakeshot for
snakes. I also carry a gun most of the time due to circumstances I will not
explain, and am licensed in 38 states to do so.

I carry in neither place because of paranoia, things that go bump in the
dark, or what-if hypotheses. There ARE some things out there that can and
will kill you. Well, maybe not YOU, but you get my drift. And were you and
I fishing side by side, you would not know I was armed.

Hope that this explains where I was coming from.

Steve



SteveB July 9th, 2004 01:07 AM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

"SteveB" wrote in message
news:Bw3Hc.12824$nc.4803@fed1read03...

"Wolfgang" wrote

Have you ever done something so stupid that you expect men with

white
coats
are going to come running up and throw a big piece of shrimp trawl

net
over
you?

Nope.......never fished with a gun.

Wolfgang


And what exactly does that mean?


I've been an avid fly fisher for about twenty years. Prior to taking up

fly
fishing, I spent a couple of years doing a lot of spin fishing after a
hiatus of about a decade and a half. In my youth I fished mainly with

bait.
I never used a gun for any of that.

Better?

Wolfgang



At least now I understand what you are talking about, and where you are
coming from.

I had a 5 way bypass and aortic valve replaced two+ years ago. I take
Coumadin, an anticoagulant. Snakes, particularly rattlers, mostly have
hemotoxins, meaning they attack the blood. Some, such as the Mojave Green
Rattlesnake have neurotoxins, just like a cobra.

A snakebite to me would probably be fatal. I carry a gun with snakeshot for
snakes. I also carry a gun most of the time due to circumstances I will not
explain, and am licensed in 38 states to do so.

I carry in neither place because of paranoia, things that go bump in the
dark, or what-if hypotheses. There ARE some things out there that can and
will kill you. Well, maybe not YOU, but you get my drift. And were you and
I fishing side by side, you would not know I was armed.

Hope that this explains where I was coming from.

Steve



JR July 9th, 2004 01:08 AM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 
Greg Pavlov wrote:

"Mark H. Bowen" wrote:

And how can I know for certain that you are
Scott?


Hey, I met Scott,.... And he hates beer.


So, just how long has he BEEN a communist?

JR


Mark H. Bowen July 9th, 2004 01:40 AM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 

"Greg Pavlov" wrote in message
...

Hey, I met Scott, even went fishing with him
last year. He's 6-2, weighs about 180, blonde
hair and green eyes. And he hates beer.


Yep, that's how I remember him.

Ok, Scott's been cleared. Who's next?

Mark --He's got no horns and he's got no tail--



Mark H. Bowen July 9th, 2004 01:40 AM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 

"Greg Pavlov" wrote in message
...

Hey, I met Scott, even went fishing with him
last year. He's 6-2, weighs about 180, blonde
hair and green eyes. And he hates beer.


Yep, that's how I remember him.

Ok, Scott's been cleared. Who's next?

Mark --He's got no horns and he's got no tail--



Wolfgang July 9th, 2004 04:21 AM

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"SteveB" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

"SteveB" wrote in message
news:Bw3Hc.12824$nc.4803@fed1read03...

"Wolfgang" wrote

Have you ever done something so stupid that you expect men with

white
coats
are going to come running up and throw a big piece of shrimp trawl

net
over
you?

Nope.......never fished with a gun.

Wolfgang


And what exactly does that mean?


I've been an avid fly fisher for about twenty years. Prior to taking up

fly
fishing, I spent a couple of years doing a lot of spin fishing after a
hiatus of about a decade and a half. In my youth I fished mainly with

bait.
I never used a gun for any of that.

Better?

Wolfgang



At least now I understand what you are talking about,


You flatter yourself.

and where you are
coming from.


Not likely......it's a place you've never been to.

I had a 5 way bypass and aortic valve replaced two+ years ago.


Take two lard sandwiches and call me in the morning.

I take
Coumadin, an anticoagulant.


I take exception......and sometimes umbrage......antiimbeciles.

Snakes, particularly rattlers, mostly have
hemotoxins, meaning they attack the blood.


No kidding? Is that what hemotoxin means? Huh......whod'a thunk it.

Some, such as the Mojave Green
Rattlesnake have neurotoxins, just like a cobra.


Those, presumably, would not be the ones that carry hemotoxins, right? And
I'm going to guess that all these proteinaceous reservoirs have something to
do with something. Let's see, shall we?.......

A snakebite to me would probably be fatal.


Ah! I see. Sometimes it takes a while for those of us who enjoy a bit of
hemotoxin or neurotoxin from time to time to remember that there are those
unfortunate few who, like yourself, don't much cotton to them.

I carry a gun with snakeshot for
snakes.


See, and I thought it would be for the buffalo. I guess I don't know quite
as much about snake**** as I though I did.

I also carry a gun most of the time due to circumstances I will not
explain,


Yeah, well, color me surprised.

and am licensed in 38 states to do so.


My mother is liscensed to drive in 50 states......and Puerto Rico. If I
were informed that she intended to do so in any of them, I'd shoot her
myself.......um.......unless, of course, there was reason to suspect that
you would be somewhere to either side of where she thought she was aiming.

I carry in neither place because of paranoia,


Neither of 38? Or was that in circumstances?

things that go bump in the
dark,


That would be your skull, judging by the melon-like tone.

or what-if hypotheses.


Hm......well, what if you were attacked by......oh.....say, a snake?

There ARE some things out there that can and
will kill you.


I could carry 38 guns and one day one of them will kill me anyway. As a
matter of fact, 38 guns would slow a boy down enough that in all likelihood
something would catch him sooner rather than later.

Well, maybe not YOU,


Yes, ME! Isn't that what I just got done saying?

but you get my drift.


Yeah, that's your problem. Well, the immediate problem anyway.

And were you and
I fishing side by side, you would not know I was armed.


No, I'm sure you're right about that. There is no way I could possibly know
that you carry a gun after you've mentioned it in a public forum. Moreover,
you may rest assured that if you and I were fishing side by side, at least
one of us would be dead.

Hope that this explains where I was coming from.


Indeed, it does.......somewhere in the vicinity of Uranus.

Wolfgang



SteveB July 9th, 2004 04:58 AM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 

"Wolfgang" wrote

Drug induced rant snipped

I have always found it entertaining that people who have an .edu ISP have so
much time for doing nothing.

Plonk. See ya. Best wishes.

Steve




Steve Sullivan July 9th, 2004 07:47 PM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 
In article ,
"riverman" wrote:

A few minutes later, she came by and said "Oh, have you seen my diamond
earrings? They were sitting on the magazine while I was looking for a
mirror..." They were valued at about what your hearing aids were, and we
never found even one of them in the tall grass.


you should of bought a metal detecter

Steve Sullivan July 9th, 2004 07:47 PM

Brown trout question/hearing aids saga
 
In article ,
"riverman" wrote:

A few minutes later, she came by and said "Oh, have you seen my diamond
earrings? They were sitting on the magazine while I was looking for a
mirror..." They were valued at about what your hearing aids were, and we
never found even one of them in the tall grass.


you should of bought a metal detecter


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