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First Aid kits
A friend skinned his elbow playing basketball, and came to me for some
antiseptic and a bandaid. He figured I carried some in my vest because of all those hooks swinging around, etc. Funny thing is that it never crossed my mind to have a First Aid kit with me while I'm out on the water, but considering all the times I've fallen trying to hop from rock to rock in wet waders, slipped on rough ground, face planted into bushes, etc, I think I ought to. My question: how many of us out there carry a small first aid kit in their vest when they're fishing, or in their float tube? How many folks carry them in their car instead, and how many don't carry anything at all? And what do you carry in them? --riverman |
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riverman writes:
My question: how many of us out there carry a small first aid kit in their vest when they're fishing, or in their float tube? How many folks carry them in their car instead, and how many don't carry anything at all? And what do you carry in them? The only decent thing Ken Fortenberry has done since *I've* known him is to give two first aid kits as raffle prizes at Waldo's Spring Fling Clave what back when...... Somehow, I ended up with one of them and have carried it faithfully for the past four years. Only this year did I have need for it, and it came in handy. After falling several times, I needed the bandages for my arms, leg, and hand. The kid contains a variety of bandaids in several sizes, including butterfly for closing a gaping wound, and giant ones (the size of your hand) for *really* band scrapes and cuts. It also contained tape, disinfective salve, ointment for burns, bites, etc, and a small pair of tweasers for removing slivers, etc. Thank you, Mr. Fortenberry. Dave http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html |
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riverman writes:
My question: how many of us out there carry a small first aid kit in their vest when they're fishing, or in their float tube? How many folks carry them in their car instead, and how many don't carry anything at all? And what do you carry in them? The only decent thing Ken Fortenberry has done since *I've* known him is to give two first aid kits as raffle prizes at Waldo's Spring Fling Clave what back when...... Somehow, I ended up with one of them and have carried it faithfully for the past four years. Only this year did I have need for it, and it came in handy. After falling several times, I needed the bandages for my arms, leg, and hand. The kid contains a variety of bandaids in several sizes, including butterfly for closing a gaping wound, and giant ones (the size of your hand) for *really* band scrapes and cuts. It also contained tape, disinfective salve, ointment for burns, bites, etc, and a small pair of tweasers for removing slivers, etc. Thank you, Mr. Fortenberry. Dave http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html |
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"riverman" wrote in message
... My question: how many of us out there carry a small first aid kit in their vest when they're fishing, or in their float tube? How many folks carry them in their car instead, and how many don't carry anything at all? And what do you carry in them? --riverman I carry a first aid kit while fishing, especially if it a back-woods kind of hike. I will carry it in a backpack along with other essentials. I also carry a flashlight, which bailed myself and two others out of potentially serious situation. Tim Lysyk |
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"riverman" wrote in message
... My question: how many of us out there carry a small first aid kit in their vest when they're fishing, or in their float tube? How many folks carry them in their car instead, and how many don't carry anything at all? And what do you carry in them? --riverman I carry a first aid kit while fishing, especially if it a back-woods kind of hike. I will carry it in a backpack along with other essentials. I also carry a flashlight, which bailed myself and two others out of potentially serious situation. Tim Lysyk |
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My car came with an outstanding first aid kid, stored in the rear seat center
arm rest. It is chock full of bandages, tape, hemostat/scissors, and one of those foil blankets to keep the "victim" warm, along with a pair of rubber gloves. Most important is the first aid manual that accompanies the kit. The way I drive, it should also contain splints, a blood supply (O+, thank you), and a hymnal. Dave http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html |
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My car came with an outstanding first aid kid, stored in the rear seat center
arm rest. It is chock full of bandages, tape, hemostat/scissors, and one of those foil blankets to keep the "victim" warm, along with a pair of rubber gloves. Most important is the first aid manual that accompanies the kit. The way I drive, it should also contain splints, a blood supply (O+, thank you), and a hymnal. Dave http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html |
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My car came with an outstanding first aid kid, stored in the rear seat center
arm rest. It is chock full of bandages, tape, hemostat/scissors, and one of those foil blankets to keep the "victim" warm, along with a pair of rubber gloves. Most important is the first aid manual that accompanies the kit. The way I drive, it should also contain splints, a blood supply (O+, thank you), and a hymnal. Dave http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html |
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 16:32:04 +0200, "riverman" wrote:
A friend skinned his elbow playing basketball, and came to me for some antiseptic and a bandaid. He figured I carried some in my vest because of all those hooks swinging around, etc. Funny thing is that it never crossed my mind to have a First Aid kit with me while I'm out on the water, but considering all the times I've fallen trying to hop from rock to rock in wet waders, slipped on rough ground, face planted into bushes, etc, I think I ought to. My question: how many of us out there carry a small first aid kit in their vest when they're fishing, or in their float tube? How many folks carry them in their car instead, and how many don't carry anything at all? And what do you carry in them? --riverman I would add that a tube of "super glue" should be in all kits. This is very handy for sealing annoying minor cuts or "new-skinning" blisters, and could be a life-saver in the event of a major cut/wound. Make sure to get the "dropper" type and not the "push pen" type. The kind I look for is the stubby, round bottle with the screw-on cap. HTH, R |
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In article , Dave
LaCourse wrote: The kid contains a variety of bandaids in several sizes, including butterfly for closing a gaping wound, and giant ones (the size of your hand) for *really* band scrapes and cuts. It also contained tape, disinfective salve, ointment for burns, bites, etc, and a small pair of tweasers for removing slivers, etc. I carry one that was a giveaway in a fishing magazine, and includes a loop for pulling barbed hooks out of fingers, etc, but this sounds much better. L -- Remover the rock from the email address |
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In article ,
wrote: I would add that a tube of "super glue" should be in all kits. This is very handy for sealing annoying minor cuts or "new-skinning" blisters, and could be a life-saver in the event of a major cut/wound. Make sure to get the "dropper" type and not the "push pen" type. The kind I look for is the stubby, round bottle with the screw-on cap. didn't know this. Have you tried it? Does it work? Lazarus -- Remover the rock from the email address |
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Lazarus asks:
In article , wrote: I would add that a tube of "super glue" should be in all kits. This is very handy for sealing annoying minor cuts or "new-skinning" blisters, and could be a life-saver in the event of a major cut/wound. Make sure to get the "dropper" type and not the "push pen" type. The kind I look for is the stubby, round bottle with the screw-on cap. didn't know this. Have you tried it? Does it work? Lazarus Quite well. But be careful on which brand you use. The first one I tried (can't remember the brand) caused more pain than the cut on my thumb. It sealed the wound, but hurt like hell. The one I now use is called Nexcare and comes in a small bottle with a brush applicator. It is excellent for sealing cracked skin (my thumbs) in the winter. *Don't*, however, use in on an infected would. Dave http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html |
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Frank Reid writes:
I would add that a tube of "super glue" should be in all kits. didn't know this. Have you tried it? Does it work? Yes and yes. -- And, most importanly to Frank, it seals the wound and is waterproof. |
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wrote I would add that a tube of "super glue" should be in all kits. This is very handy for sealing annoying minor cuts or "new-skinning" blisters, and could be a life-saver in the event of a major cut/wound. Make sure to get the "dropper" type and not the "push pen" type. The kind I look for is the stubby, round bottle with the screw-on cap. HTH, Is that the same stuff that looks and smells like clear fingernail polish? It is great for those places like around your fingernails where it splits, and hurts and burns like the dickens, but you can't really do anything about it. Good stuff. You could probably put a dab here and there for flyfishing situations....................... Steve |
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"riverman" wrote in message ... A friend skinned his elbow playing basketball, and came to me for some antiseptic and a bandaid. He figured I carried some in my vest because of all those hooks swinging around, etc. Funny thing is that it never crossed my mind to have a First Aid kit with me while I'm out on the water, but considering all the times I've fallen trying to hop from rock to rock in wet waders, slipped on rough ground, face planted into bushes, etc, I think I ought to. My question: how many of us out there carry a small first aid kit in their vest when they're fishing, or in their float tube? How many folks carry them in their car instead, and how many don't carry anything at all? And what do you carry in them? --riverman I have a small first aid kit in my fishing jacket, and a very large one in my car ( Required by law here anyway). All drivers here are also required to have and maintain a current first aid certificate. TL MC |
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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message ... Frank Reid writes: I would add that a tube of "super glue" should be in all kits. didn't know this. Have you tried it? Does it work? Yes and yes. -- And, most importanly to Frank, it seals the wound and is waterproof. Additionally, its interesting to note that SuperGlue was invented to be used in place of interior sutures during surgery. Its specially formulated to be particularly good at sealing flesh. We used it in the Grand Canyon to seal these horriffic cracks we'd get in our heels from the dryness combined with the constant immersion in river water. Works like a charm for cuts of all sorts. --riverman |
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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message ... Frank Reid writes: I would add that a tube of "super glue" should be in all kits. didn't know this. Have you tried it? Does it work? Yes and yes. -- And, most importanly to Frank, it seals the wound and is waterproof. Additionally, its interesting to note that SuperGlue was invented to be used in place of interior sutures during surgery. Its specially formulated to be particularly good at sealing flesh. We used it in the Grand Canyon to seal these horriffic cracks we'd get in our heels from the dryness combined with the constant immersion in river water. Works like a charm for cuts of all sorts. --riverman |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message gy.com... riverman wrote: ... Funny thing is that it never crossed my mind to have a First Aid kit with me while I'm out on the water, ... When I was a guide I was required to have one at all times and be Red Cross certified to use it. Ken, I didn't know you guided. What did you Guide, and where? --riverman (ex-Guide) |
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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message gy.com... riverman wrote: ... Funny thing is that it never crossed my mind to have a First Aid kit with me while I'm out on the water, ... When I was a guide I was required to have one at all times and be Red Cross certified to use it. Ken, I didn't know you guided. What did you Guide, and where? --riverman (ex-Guide) |
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Eastman 910 was the first super glue.
http://www.repairantiques.com/cyanoacrylates.html It was being used for first aid and surgery in 1967. "Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message om... In article , wrote: I would add that a tube of "super glue" should be in all kits. This is very handy for sealing annoying minor cuts or "new-skinning" blisters, and could be a life-saver in the event of a major cut/wound. Make sure to get the "dropper" type and not the "push pen" type. The kind I look for is the stubby, round bottle with the screw-on cap. didn't know this. Have you tried it? Does it work? Lazarus -- Remover the rock from the email address |
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In article , B J Conner
wrote: It was being used for first aid and surgery in 1967. Lazarus cringes with shame at his own ignorance of modern first-aid techniques, but thanks those who have put him right -- Remover the rock from the email address |
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From: "riverman"
My question: how many of us out there carry a small first aid kit in their vest when they're fishing, or in their float tube? How many folks carry them in their car instead, and how many don't carry anything at all? I carry one in my car. The contents, to the best of my memory a Several sizes and shapes of bandaids. Large and small gauze pads. Tape Alcohol wipes Anti bacterial ointment. Merthiolate Roll of gauze Ace Bandage Finger splint Scissors Tweezers Latex gloves Aspirin Aleve Immodium There are probably a few more items that I have forgotten. Over the years, I've used every item listed except the finger splint. George Adams "All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of youth that doth not grow stale with age." ---- J.W Muller |
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From: "riverman"
My question: how many of us out there carry a small first aid kit in their vest when they're fishing, or in their float tube? How many folks carry them in their car instead, and how many don't carry anything at all? I carry one in my car. The contents, to the best of my memory a Several sizes and shapes of bandaids. Large and small gauze pads. Tape Alcohol wipes Anti bacterial ointment. Merthiolate Roll of gauze Ace Bandage Finger splint Scissors Tweezers Latex gloves Aspirin Aleve Immodium There are probably a few more items that I have forgotten. Over the years, I've used every item listed except the finger splint. George Adams "All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of youth that doth not grow stale with age." ---- J.W Muller |
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From: irate (Dave LaCourse) Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly Date: 11 Jul 2004 18:04:47 GMT Subject: First Aid kits Quite well. But be careful on which brand you use. The first one I tried (can't remember the brand) caused more pain than the cut on my thumb. It sealed the wound, but hurt like hell. The one I now use is called Nexcare and comes in a small bottle with a brush applicator. It is excellent for sealing cracked skin (my thumbs) in the winter. *Don't*, however, use in on an infected would. Dave I've gotta second this.... i bought some a year ago to use on my little girl if it was ever necessary, adding to the rest of the stuff i have at home. a few months later, i tried it on myself, first time out of the box. i had a little paper cut which bled well at the beginning but was more of an inconvenience than anything else. i thought the stuff would seal it up pretty good. well, it DID, but for the first half an hour after aplication, it hurt more than anything i could recall. i immediately (after recovering enough) sat my little girl down and showed her the blue box and the little glass vial the stuff was package in and lectured her to NEVER allow anyone to apply it to her, ever. i let a friend try it out a few weeks later (somehow i hadn;t thrown it away). she really wanted to try it out on a cut of hers and although i warned her, explaining how much it hurt me when i had tried it, she said that women can tolerate more pain than men, and immediately applied it. same result, tears from her eyes, hand waving, trying to shake off the incredible pain... i'm sure there's better stuff out there. hopefully the nexcare is better. i'll have to look into it. i wish i knew the name of the stuff i had, but it's been thrown away. if anybody wishes, i can try to find it again at my local target. i'm sure i'll recognize the packaging. eric fresno, ca. |
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From: irate (Dave LaCourse) Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly Date: 11 Jul 2004 18:04:47 GMT Subject: First Aid kits Quite well. But be careful on which brand you use. The first one I tried (can't remember the brand) caused more pain than the cut on my thumb. It sealed the wound, but hurt like hell. The one I now use is called Nexcare and comes in a small bottle with a brush applicator. It is excellent for sealing cracked skin (my thumbs) in the winter. *Don't*, however, use in on an infected would. Dave I've gotta second this.... i bought some a year ago to use on my little girl if it was ever necessary, adding to the rest of the stuff i have at home. a few months later, i tried it on myself, first time out of the box. i had a little paper cut which bled well at the beginning but was more of an inconvenience than anything else. i thought the stuff would seal it up pretty good. well, it DID, but for the first half an hour after aplication, it hurt more than anything i could recall. i immediately (after recovering enough) sat my little girl down and showed her the blue box and the little glass vial the stuff was package in and lectured her to NEVER allow anyone to apply it to her, ever. i let a friend try it out a few weeks later (somehow i hadn;t thrown it away). she really wanted to try it out on a cut of hers and although i warned her, explaining how much it hurt me when i had tried it, she said that women can tolerate more pain than men, and immediately applied it. same result, tears from her eyes, hand waving, trying to shake off the incredible pain... i'm sure there's better stuff out there. hopefully the nexcare is better. i'll have to look into it. i wish i knew the name of the stuff i had, but it's been thrown away. if anybody wishes, i can try to find it again at my local target. i'm sure i'll recognize the packaging. eric fresno, ca. |
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Definitely not a case of ignorance. The instances I know of were by the
Army Medical Corps and may or may not have been in general medical use for sometime after that. It was used to glue veins and arteries together among other things. One caution that should be made in using the stuff in first aid kits is NEVER USE AROUND THE EYES. (that is not only my own precaution I have read in other places, including super glue bottles). I know of one case where a user rubbed his eyes and one of them got stuck open. In a first aid setting getting your eyes glued closed could be a ****er. I don't know what happens if you get it inside you eye but it's not good I'm sure. The stuff was $27 (GSA price 1967) so it was not available for putting on toilet seats, doorknobs or what ever people do with super glue. "Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message om... In article , B J Conner wrote: It was being used for first aid and surgery in 1967. Lazarus cringes with shame at his own ignorance of modern first-aid techniques, but thanks those who have put him right -- Remover the rock from the email address |
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Definitely not a case of ignorance. The instances I know of were by the
Army Medical Corps and may or may not have been in general medical use for sometime after that. It was used to glue veins and arteries together among other things. One caution that should be made in using the stuff in first aid kits is NEVER USE AROUND THE EYES. (that is not only my own precaution I have read in other places, including super glue bottles). I know of one case where a user rubbed his eyes and one of them got stuck open. In a first aid setting getting your eyes glued closed could be a ****er. I don't know what happens if you get it inside you eye but it's not good I'm sure. The stuff was $27 (GSA price 1967) so it was not available for putting on toilet seats, doorknobs or what ever people do with super glue. "Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message om... In article , B J Conner wrote: It was being used for first aid and surgery in 1967. Lazarus cringes with shame at his own ignorance of modern first-aid techniques, but thanks those who have put him right -- Remover the rock from the email address |
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Okay. Got a small one that I carry in my vest (a couple of 4X4s, some tape, sinus tylenol, baby asprin, tissues and bandaids. All in a double ziplock) I have a Swiss Army knife with scissors and tweezers. I try double duty items (tissues are also toilet paper and compression bandage). I've got a full size kit in my truck that is just short of including a bone saw (swiss army knife can do this anyway). The only thing I don't have is a splint, but I can make this out of newspaper or whatever. -- Frank Reid Reverse email to reply |
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Okay. Got a small one that I carry in my vest (a couple of 4X4s, some tape, sinus tylenol, baby asprin, tissues and bandaids. All in a double ziplock) I have a Swiss Army knife with scissors and tweezers. I try double duty items (tissues are also toilet paper and compression bandage). I've got a full size kit in my truck that is just short of including a bone saw (swiss army knife can do this anyway). The only thing I don't have is a splint, but I can make this out of newspaper or whatever. -- Frank Reid Reverse email to reply |
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one extra item i've been adding to my first aid kit is/was quite unexpected for me, but i guess i have to admit to growing old and the effect of life's pressures these past few years.... alka-seltzer. the lemon flavored version. eric fresno, ca. |
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one extra item i've been adding to my first aid kit is/was quite unexpected for me, but i guess i have to admit to growing old and the effect of life's pressures these past few years.... alka-seltzer. the lemon flavored version. eric fresno, ca. |
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 20:18:31 +0200, "riverman" wrote:
"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message ... Frank Reid writes: I would add that a tube of "super glue" should be in all kits. didn't know this. Have you tried it? Does it work? Yes and yes. -- And, most importanly to Frank, it seals the wound and is waterproof. Additionally, its interesting to note that SuperGlue was invented to be used in place of interior sutures during surgery. Its specially formulated to be particularly good at sealing flesh. We used it in the Grand Canyon to seal these horriffic cracks we'd get in our heels from the dryness combined with the constant immersion in river water. Works like a charm for cuts of all sorts. Not _quite_, IIRC, its invention, but close. IIRC, when the US Army found out about it (in the early stages of the US involvement in Vietnam), they quickly started using it in the field, became a large buyer, and that helped further develop it. Also, keep in mind that medical grade glue and "Super/Krazy Glue" are slightly different in formula. I've had the "store" variety used on me in early childhood, and used it myself since I was 7 or 8, and had no reaction. I've talked to doctor friends who also swear by it and say it is as safe as the medical grade, but as always, YMMV. TC, R --riverman |
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Mine consists of a Cutter snake bite kit, After Bite brand anti-itch
stuff, duct tape for heel blisters and just about everything else, and a few Dilaudid to take care of the pain while being driven to the hospital. Oh yeah, don't forget the HMO card. |
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Mine consists of a Cutter snake bite kit, After Bite brand anti-itch
stuff, duct tape for heel blisters and just about everything else, and a few Dilaudid to take care of the pain while being driven to the hospital. Oh yeah, don't forget the HMO card. |
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 19:11:59 GMT, eric paul zamora
wrote: Quite well. But be careful on which brand you use. The first one I tried (can't remember the brand) caused more pain than the cut on my thumb. It sealed the wound, but hurt like hell. The one I now use is called Nexcare and comes in a small bottle with a brush applicator. It is excellent for sealing cracked skin (my thumbs) in the winter. *Don't*, however, use in on an infected would. Dave I've gotta second this.... i bought some a year ago to use on my little girl if it was ever necessary, adding to the rest of the stuff i have at home. a few months later, i tried it on myself, first time out of the box. i had a little paper cut which bled well at the beginning but was more of an inconvenience than anything else. i thought the stuff would seal it up pretty good. well, it DID, but for the first half an hour after aplication, it hurt more than anything i could recall. i immediately (after recovering enough) sat my little girl down and showed her the blue box and the little glass vial the stuff was package in and lectured her to NEVER allow anyone to apply it to her, ever. That sounds like New-Skin (googling it up ought to confirm), and that and similar "liquid bandaids" aren't the same thing as store or medical-grade "super glue," which is something like "cyanoacrylic." I've been told by people I trust that the only differences in the two grades of "super glues" is the carrier, the cost, and the medical-grade stuff packing, etc., is sterile. TC, R |
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Darndest thing.........
Just went to Ace for some cable connectors. At the checkout counter, they got these tweezers with a magnifying glass on them! Well, OF COURSE, I bought one. Steve |
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"George Adams" wrote in message ... From: "riverman" My question: how many of us out there carry a small first aid kit in their vest when they're fishing, or in their float tube? How many folks carry them in their car instead, and how many don't carry anything at all? I carry one in my car. The contents, to the best of my memory a Several sizes and shapes of bandaids. Large and small gauze pads. Tape Alcohol wipes Anti bacterial ointment. Merthiolate Roll of gauze Ace Bandage Finger splint Scissors Tweezers Latex gloves Aspirin Aleve Immodium There are probably a few more items that I have forgotten. Over the years, I've used every item listed except the finger splint. George Adams "All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of youth that doth not grow stale with age." ---- J.W Muller add to that list some tea bags- they contain tannic acid, which serves as an excellent hemostatic agent. you wet them and apply them to the wound. snake |
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"Greg Pavlov" wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 12:05:07 -0500, wrote: I would add that a tube of "super glue" should be in all kits. This is very handy for sealing annoying minor cuts or "new-skinning" blisters, and could be a life-saver in the event of a major cut/wound. Make sure to get the "dropper" type and not the "push pen" type. The kind I look for is the stubby, round bottle with the screw-on cap. How do you use it ? Apply it to the open wound or try to push and glue the skin together ? If you put it on an open wound, what does that accomplish ? Sealing it from exposure ? I accidentally got some on a cut while I was tying flies I cheat by putting a bit on "here and there" :-) and I was surprised to find tha it hurt pretty badly. I haven't used it on a really bad open wound yet. But it really helps when you have a split at the end of your finger, right at the corner of the nail, or around the nails where you can't get a bandage to. It keeps the skin from parting every time you squeeze something and that stabbing pain from a tiny wound in the right place. It helps to heal it, and by the time it wears off, the wound is just about healed. I keep daubing on more if the wound isn't healed yet. I think it also helps keep the skin around a wound from pulling on the sensitive part, like a butterfly bandage does. Steve |
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