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riverman July 11th, 2004 03:32 PM

First Aid kits
 
A friend skinned his elbow playing basketball, and came to me for some
antiseptic and a bandaid. He figured I carried some in my vest because of
all those hooks swinging around, etc. Funny thing is that it never crossed
my mind to have a First Aid kit with me while I'm out on the water, but
considering all the times I've fallen trying to hop from rock to rock in wet
waders, slipped on rough ground, face planted into bushes, etc, I think I
ought to.

My question: how many of us out there carry a small first aid kit in their
vest when they're fishing, or in their float tube? How many folks carry them
in their car instead, and how many don't carry anything at all?

And what do you carry in them?

--riverman



Dave LaCourse July 11th, 2004 04:58 PM

First Aid kits
 
riverman writes:

My question: how many of us out there carry a small first aid kit in their
vest when they're fishing, or in their float tube? How many folks carry them
in their car instead, and how many don't carry anything at all?

And what do you carry in them?




The only decent thing Ken Fortenberry has done since *I've* known him is to
give two first aid kits as raffle prizes at Waldo's Spring Fling Clave what
back when...... Somehow, I ended up with one of them and have carried it
faithfully for the past four years. Only this year did I have need for it, and
it came in handy. After falling several times, I needed the bandages for my
arms, leg, and hand.

The kid contains a variety of bandaids in several sizes, including butterfly
for closing a gaping wound, and giant ones (the size of your hand) for *really*
band scrapes and cuts. It also contained tape, disinfective salve, ointment
for burns, bites, etc, and a small pair of tweasers for removing slivers, etc.

Thank you, Mr. Fortenberry.

Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html








Dave LaCourse July 11th, 2004 04:58 PM

First Aid kits
 
riverman writes:

My question: how many of us out there carry a small first aid kit in their
vest when they're fishing, or in their float tube? How many folks carry them
in their car instead, and how many don't carry anything at all?

And what do you carry in them?




The only decent thing Ken Fortenberry has done since *I've* known him is to
give two first aid kits as raffle prizes at Waldo's Spring Fling Clave what
back when...... Somehow, I ended up with one of them and have carried it
faithfully for the past four years. Only this year did I have need for it, and
it came in handy. After falling several times, I needed the bandages for my
arms, leg, and hand.

The kid contains a variety of bandaids in several sizes, including butterfly
for closing a gaping wound, and giant ones (the size of your hand) for *really*
band scrapes and cuts. It also contained tape, disinfective salve, ointment
for burns, bites, etc, and a small pair of tweasers for removing slivers, etc.

Thank you, Mr. Fortenberry.

Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html








Tim Lysyk July 11th, 2004 04:59 PM

First Aid kits
 
"riverman" wrote in message
...

My question: how many of us out there carry a small first aid kit in their
vest when they're fishing, or in their float tube? How many folks carry

them
in their car instead, and how many don't carry anything at all?

And what do you carry in them?

--riverman


I carry a first aid kit while fishing, especially if it a back-woods kind of
hike. I will carry it in a backpack along with other essentials. I also
carry a flashlight, which bailed myself and two others out of potentially
serious situation.

Tim Lysyk



Tim Lysyk July 11th, 2004 04:59 PM

First Aid kits
 
"riverman" wrote in message
...

My question: how many of us out there carry a small first aid kit in their
vest when they're fishing, or in their float tube? How many folks carry

them
in their car instead, and how many don't carry anything at all?

And what do you carry in them?

--riverman


I carry a first aid kit while fishing, especially if it a back-woods kind of
hike. I will carry it in a backpack along with other essentials. I also
carry a flashlight, which bailed myself and two others out of potentially
serious situation.

Tim Lysyk



Dave LaCourse July 11th, 2004 05:11 PM

First Aid kits
 
My car came with an outstanding first aid kid, stored in the rear seat center
arm rest. It is chock full of bandages, tape, hemostat/scissors, and one of
those foil blankets to keep the "victim" warm, along with a pair of rubber
gloves. Most important is the first aid manual that accompanies the kit.

The way I drive, it should also contain splints, a blood supply (O+, thank
you), and a hymnal.
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html








Dave LaCourse July 11th, 2004 05:11 PM

First Aid kits
 
My car came with an outstanding first aid kid, stored in the rear seat center
arm rest. It is chock full of bandages, tape, hemostat/scissors, and one of
those foil blankets to keep the "victim" warm, along with a pair of rubber
gloves. Most important is the first aid manual that accompanies the kit.

The way I drive, it should also contain splints, a blood supply (O+, thank
you), and a hymnal.
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html








Dave LaCourse July 11th, 2004 05:11 PM

First Aid kits
 
My car came with an outstanding first aid kid, stored in the rear seat center
arm rest. It is chock full of bandages, tape, hemostat/scissors, and one of
those foil blankets to keep the "victim" warm, along with a pair of rubber
gloves. Most important is the first aid manual that accompanies the kit.

The way I drive, it should also contain splints, a blood supply (O+, thank
you), and a hymnal.
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html








[email protected] July 11th, 2004 06:01 PM

First Aid kits
 
On 11 Jul 2004 16:11:02 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse)
wrote:

My car came with an outstanding first aid kid, stored in the rear seat center
arm rest. It is chock full of bandages, tape, hemostat/scissors, and one of
those foil blankets to keep the "victim" warm, along with a pair of rubber
gloves. Most important is the first aid manual that accompanies the kit.

The way I drive, it should also contain splints, a blood supply (O+, thank
you), and a hymnal.
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html

Must be a German car? A German friend once told me he thought it was
required by law. Back when I was into big, honkin' S-classes, I always
kept the kit upon selling the car. And I still carry them nowadays -
great kits.

TC,
R

[email protected] July 11th, 2004 06:05 PM

First Aid kits
 
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 16:32:04 +0200, "riverman" wrote:

A friend skinned his elbow playing basketball, and came to me for some
antiseptic and a bandaid. He figured I carried some in my vest because of
all those hooks swinging around, etc. Funny thing is that it never crossed
my mind to have a First Aid kit with me while I'm out on the water, but
considering all the times I've fallen trying to hop from rock to rock in wet
waders, slipped on rough ground, face planted into bushes, etc, I think I
ought to.

My question: how many of us out there carry a small first aid kit in their
vest when they're fishing, or in their float tube? How many folks carry them
in their car instead, and how many don't carry anything at all?

And what do you carry in them?

--riverman

I would add that a tube of "super glue" should be in all kits. This is
very handy for sealing annoying minor cuts or "new-skinning" blisters,
and could be a life-saver in the event of a major cut/wound. Make sure
to get the "dropper" type and not the "push pen" type. The kind I look
for is the stubby, round bottle with the screw-on cap.

HTH,
R

daytripper July 11th, 2004 06:05 PM

First Aid kits
 
On 11 Jul 2004 16:11:02 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse) wrote:

My car came with an outstanding first aid kid, stored in the rear seat center
arm rest. It is chock full of bandages, tape, hemostat/scissors, and one of
those foil blankets to keep the "victim" warm, along with a pair of rubber
gloves. Most important is the first aid manual that accompanies the kit.

The way I drive, it should also contain splints, a blood supply (O+, thank
you), and a hymnal.


And all those poor pedestrians are grateful, I'm sure ;-)

Lazarus Cooke July 11th, 2004 06:06 PM

First Aid kits
 
In article , Dave
LaCourse wrote:



The kid contains a variety of bandaids in several sizes, including butterfly
for closing a gaping wound, and giant ones (the size of your hand) for
*really*
band scrapes and cuts. It also contained tape, disinfective salve, ointment
for burns, bites, etc, and a small pair of tweasers for removing slivers, etc.


I carry one that was a giveaway in a fishing magazine, and includes a
loop for pulling barbed hooks out of fingers, etc, but this sounds much
better.

L

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Remover the rock from the email address

Lazarus Cooke July 11th, 2004 06:44 PM

First Aid kits
 
In article ,
wrote:



I would add that a tube of "super glue" should be in all kits. This is
very handy for sealing annoying minor cuts or "new-skinning" blisters,
and could be a life-saver in the event of a major cut/wound. Make sure
to get the "dropper" type and not the "push pen" type. The kind I look
for is the stubby, round bottle with the screw-on cap.

didn't know this. Have you tried it? Does it work?

Lazarus

--
Remover the rock from the email address

Dave LaCourse July 11th, 2004 07:04 PM

First Aid kits
 
Lazarus asks:

In article ,
wrote:



I would add that a tube of "super glue" should be in all kits. This is
very handy for sealing annoying minor cuts or "new-skinning" blisters,
and could be a life-saver in the event of a major cut/wound. Make sure
to get the "dropper" type and not the "push pen" type. The kind I look
for is the stubby, round bottle with the screw-on cap.

didn't know this. Have you tried it? Does it work?

Lazarus


Quite well. But be careful on which brand you use. The first one I tried
(can't remember the brand) caused more pain than the cut on my thumb. It
sealed the wound, but hurt like hell. The one I now use is called Nexcare and
comes in a small bottle with a brush applicator. It is excellent for sealing
cracked skin (my thumbs) in the winter. *Don't*, however, use in on an
infected would.


Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html








Dave LaCourse July 11th, 2004 07:07 PM

First Aid kits
 
Frank Reid writes:



I would add that a tube of "super glue" should be in all kits.

didn't know this. Have you tried it? Does it work?


Yes and yes.

--



And, most importanly to Frank, it seals the wound and is waterproof.








SteveB July 11th, 2004 07:08 PM

First Aid kits
 

wrote

I would add that a tube of "super glue" should be in all kits. This is
very handy for sealing annoying minor cuts or "new-skinning" blisters,
and could be a life-saver in the event of a major cut/wound. Make sure
to get the "dropper" type and not the "push pen" type. The kind I look
for is the stubby, round bottle with the screw-on cap.

HTH,


Is that the same stuff that looks and smells like clear fingernail polish?
It is great for those places like around your fingernails where it splits,
and hurts and burns like the dickens, but you can't really do anything about
it. Good stuff. You could probably put a dab here and there for flyfishing
situations.......................

Steve



Mike Connor July 11th, 2004 07:11 PM

First Aid kits
 

"riverman" wrote in message
...
A friend skinned his elbow playing basketball, and came to me for some
antiseptic and a bandaid. He figured I carried some in my vest because of
all those hooks swinging around, etc. Funny thing is that it never crossed
my mind to have a First Aid kit with me while I'm out on the water, but
considering all the times I've fallen trying to hop from rock to rock in

wet
waders, slipped on rough ground, face planted into bushes, etc, I think I
ought to.

My question: how many of us out there carry a small first aid kit in their
vest when they're fishing, or in their float tube? How many folks carry

them
in their car instead, and how many don't carry anything at all?

And what do you carry in them?

--riverman



I have a small first aid kit in my fishing jacket, and a very large one in
my car ( Required by law here anyway). All drivers here are also required to
have and maintain a current first aid certificate.

TL
MC



riverman July 11th, 2004 07:18 PM

First Aid kits
 

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
Frank Reid writes:



I would add that a tube of "super glue" should be in all kits.
didn't know this. Have you tried it? Does it work?


Yes and yes.

--



And, most importanly to Frank, it seals the wound and is waterproof.


Additionally, its interesting to note that SuperGlue was invented to be
used in place of interior sutures during surgery. Its specially formulated
to be particularly good at sealing flesh. We used it in the Grand Canyon to
seal these horriffic cracks we'd get in our heels from the dryness combined
with the constant immersion in river water. Works like a charm for cuts of
all sorts.

--riverman



riverman July 11th, 2004 07:18 PM

First Aid kits
 

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
Frank Reid writes:



I would add that a tube of "super glue" should be in all kits.
didn't know this. Have you tried it? Does it work?


Yes and yes.

--



And, most importanly to Frank, it seals the wound and is waterproof.


Additionally, its interesting to note that SuperGlue was invented to be
used in place of interior sutures during surgery. Its specially formulated
to be particularly good at sealing flesh. We used it in the Grand Canyon to
seal these horriffic cracks we'd get in our heels from the dryness combined
with the constant immersion in river water. Works like a charm for cuts of
all sorts.

--riverman



riverman July 11th, 2004 07:20 PM

First Aid kits
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
gy.com...
riverman wrote:
... Funny thing is that it never crossed
my mind to have a First Aid kit with me while I'm out on the water, ...


When I was a guide I was required to have one at all times and be
Red Cross certified to use it.


Ken, I didn't know you guided. What did you Guide, and where?

--riverman
(ex-Guide)



riverman July 11th, 2004 07:20 PM

First Aid kits
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
gy.com...
riverman wrote:
... Funny thing is that it never crossed
my mind to have a First Aid kit with me while I'm out on the water, ...


When I was a guide I was required to have one at all times and be
Red Cross certified to use it.


Ken, I didn't know you guided. What did you Guide, and where?

--riverman
(ex-Guide)



B J Conner July 11th, 2004 07:41 PM

First Aid kits
 
Eastman 910 was the first super glue.
http://www.repairantiques.com/cyanoacrylates.html
It was being used for first aid and surgery in 1967.

"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message
om...
In article ,
wrote:



I would add that a tube of "super glue" should be in all kits. This is
very handy for sealing annoying minor cuts or "new-skinning" blisters,
and could be a life-saver in the event of a major cut/wound. Make sure
to get the "dropper" type and not the "push pen" type. The kind I look
for is the stubby, round bottle with the screw-on cap.

didn't know this. Have you tried it? Does it work?

Lazarus

--
Remover the rock from the email address




Lazarus Cooke July 11th, 2004 08:04 PM

First Aid kits
 
In article , B J Conner
wrote:

It was being used for first aid and surgery in 1967.


Lazarus cringes with shame at his own ignorance of modern first-aid
techniques, but thanks those who have put him right

--
Remover the rock from the email address

George Adams July 11th, 2004 08:11 PM

First Aid kits
 
From: "riverman"

My question: how many of us out there carry a small first aid kit in their
vest when they're fishing, or in their float tube? How many folks carry them
in their car instead, and how many don't carry anything at all?


I carry one in my car. The contents, to the best of my memory a
Several sizes and shapes of bandaids.
Large and small gauze pads.
Tape
Alcohol wipes
Anti bacterial ointment.
Merthiolate
Roll of gauze
Ace Bandage
Finger splint
Scissors
Tweezers
Latex gloves
Aspirin
Aleve
Immodium
There are probably a few more items that I have forgotten. Over the years, I've
used every item listed except the finger splint.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller


George Adams July 11th, 2004 08:11 PM

First Aid kits
 
From: "riverman"

My question: how many of us out there carry a small first aid kit in their
vest when they're fishing, or in their float tube? How many folks carry them
in their car instead, and how many don't carry anything at all?


I carry one in my car. The contents, to the best of my memory a
Several sizes and shapes of bandaids.
Large and small gauze pads.
Tape
Alcohol wipes
Anti bacterial ointment.
Merthiolate
Roll of gauze
Ace Bandage
Finger splint
Scissors
Tweezers
Latex gloves
Aspirin
Aleve
Immodium
There are probably a few more items that I have forgotten. Over the years, I've
used every item listed except the finger splint.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller


eric paul zamora July 11th, 2004 08:11 PM

First Aid kits
 


From: irate (Dave LaCourse)
Organization: AOL
http://www.aol.com
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Date: 11 Jul 2004 18:04:47 GMT
Subject: First Aid kits



Quite well. But be careful on which brand you use. The first one I tried
(can't remember the brand) caused more pain than the cut on my thumb. It
sealed the wound, but hurt like hell. The one I now use is called Nexcare and
comes in a small bottle with a brush applicator. It is excellent for sealing
cracked skin (my thumbs) in the winter. *Don't*, however, use in on an
infected would.


Dave






I've gotta second this.... i bought some a year ago to use on my little
girl if it was ever necessary, adding to the rest of the stuff i have at
home.

a few months later, i tried it on myself, first time out of the box. i had
a little paper cut which bled well at the beginning but was more of an
inconvenience than anything else. i thought the stuff would seal it up
pretty good. well, it DID, but for the first half an hour after aplication,
it hurt more than anything i could recall. i immediately (after recovering
enough) sat my little girl down and showed her the blue box and the little
glass vial the stuff was package in and lectured her to NEVER allow anyone
to apply it to her, ever. i let a friend try it out a few weeks later
(somehow i hadn;t thrown it away). she really wanted to try it out on a cut
of hers and although i warned her, explaining how much it hurt me when i had
tried it, she said that women can tolerate more pain than men, and
immediately applied it. same result, tears from her eyes, hand waving,
trying to shake off the incredible pain...

i'm sure there's better stuff out there. hopefully the nexcare is better.
i'll have to look into it. i wish i knew the name of the stuff i had, but
it's been thrown away. if anybody wishes, i can try to find it again at my
local target. i'm sure i'll recognize the packaging.


eric
fresno, ca.


eric paul zamora July 11th, 2004 08:11 PM

First Aid kits
 


From: irate (Dave LaCourse)
Organization: AOL
http://www.aol.com
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Date: 11 Jul 2004 18:04:47 GMT
Subject: First Aid kits



Quite well. But be careful on which brand you use. The first one I tried
(can't remember the brand) caused more pain than the cut on my thumb. It
sealed the wound, but hurt like hell. The one I now use is called Nexcare and
comes in a small bottle with a brush applicator. It is excellent for sealing
cracked skin (my thumbs) in the winter. *Don't*, however, use in on an
infected would.


Dave






I've gotta second this.... i bought some a year ago to use on my little
girl if it was ever necessary, adding to the rest of the stuff i have at
home.

a few months later, i tried it on myself, first time out of the box. i had
a little paper cut which bled well at the beginning but was more of an
inconvenience than anything else. i thought the stuff would seal it up
pretty good. well, it DID, but for the first half an hour after aplication,
it hurt more than anything i could recall. i immediately (after recovering
enough) sat my little girl down and showed her the blue box and the little
glass vial the stuff was package in and lectured her to NEVER allow anyone
to apply it to her, ever. i let a friend try it out a few weeks later
(somehow i hadn;t thrown it away). she really wanted to try it out on a cut
of hers and although i warned her, explaining how much it hurt me when i had
tried it, she said that women can tolerate more pain than men, and
immediately applied it. same result, tears from her eyes, hand waving,
trying to shake off the incredible pain...

i'm sure there's better stuff out there. hopefully the nexcare is better.
i'll have to look into it. i wish i knew the name of the stuff i had, but
it's been thrown away. if anybody wishes, i can try to find it again at my
local target. i'm sure i'll recognize the packaging.


eric
fresno, ca.


B J Conner July 11th, 2004 08:50 PM

First Aid kits
 
Definitely not a case of ignorance. The instances I know of were by the
Army Medical Corps and may or may not have been in general medical use for
sometime after that. It was used to glue veins and arteries together among
other things.
One caution that should be made in using the stuff in first aid kits is
NEVER USE AROUND THE EYES. (that is not only my own precaution I have read
in other places, including super glue bottles). I know of one case where
a user rubbed his eyes and one of them got stuck open. In a first aid
setting getting your eyes glued closed could be a ****er. I don't know
what happens if you get it inside you eye but it's not good I'm sure.

The stuff was $27 (GSA price 1967) so it was not available for putting on
toilet seats, doorknobs or what ever people do with super glue.


"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message
om...
In article , B J Conner
wrote:

It was being used for first aid and surgery in 1967.


Lazarus cringes with shame at his own ignorance of modern first-aid
techniques, but thanks those who have put him right

--
Remover the rock from the email address




B J Conner July 11th, 2004 08:50 PM

First Aid kits
 
Definitely not a case of ignorance. The instances I know of were by the
Army Medical Corps and may or may not have been in general medical use for
sometime after that. It was used to glue veins and arteries together among
other things.
One caution that should be made in using the stuff in first aid kits is
NEVER USE AROUND THE EYES. (that is not only my own precaution I have read
in other places, including super glue bottles). I know of one case where
a user rubbed his eyes and one of them got stuck open. In a first aid
setting getting your eyes glued closed could be a ****er. I don't know
what happens if you get it inside you eye but it's not good I'm sure.

The stuff was $27 (GSA price 1967) so it was not available for putting on
toilet seats, doorknobs or what ever people do with super glue.


"Lazarus Cooke" wrote in message
om...
In article , B J Conner
wrote:

It was being used for first aid and surgery in 1967.


Lazarus cringes with shame at his own ignorance of modern first-aid
techniques, but thanks those who have put him right

--
Remover the rock from the email address




Frank Reid July 11th, 2004 09:19 PM

First Aid kits
 

Okay. Got a small one that I carry in my vest (a couple of 4X4s, some tape,
sinus tylenol, baby asprin, tissues and bandaids. All in a double ziplock)
I have a Swiss Army knife with scissors and tweezers. I try double duty
items (tissues are also toilet paper and compression bandage).
I've got a full size kit in my truck that is just short of including a bone
saw (swiss army knife can do this anyway). The only thing I don't have is a
splint, but I can make this out of newspaper or whatever.

--
Frank Reid
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Frank Reid July 11th, 2004 09:19 PM

First Aid kits
 

Okay. Got a small one that I carry in my vest (a couple of 4X4s, some tape,
sinus tylenol, baby asprin, tissues and bandaids. All in a double ziplock)
I have a Swiss Army knife with scissors and tweezers. I try double duty
items (tissues are also toilet paper and compression bandage).
I've got a full size kit in my truck that is just short of including a bone
saw (swiss army knife can do this anyway). The only thing I don't have is a
splint, but I can make this out of newspaper or whatever.

--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply



eric paul zamora July 11th, 2004 09:39 PM

First Aid kits
 


one extra item i've been adding to my first aid kit is/was quite unexpected
for me, but i guess i have to admit to growing old and the effect of life's
pressures these past few years.... alka-seltzer. the lemon flavored
version.


eric
fresno, ca.





eric paul zamora July 11th, 2004 09:39 PM

First Aid kits
 


one extra item i've been adding to my first aid kit is/was quite unexpected
for me, but i guess i have to admit to growing old and the effect of life's
pressures these past few years.... alka-seltzer. the lemon flavored
version.


eric
fresno, ca.





[email protected] July 11th, 2004 09:50 PM

First Aid kits
 
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 20:18:31 +0200, "riverman" wrote:


"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
Frank Reid writes:



I would add that a tube of "super glue" should be in all kits.
didn't know this. Have you tried it? Does it work?

Yes and yes.

--



And, most importanly to Frank, it seals the wound and is waterproof.


Additionally, its interesting to note that SuperGlue was invented to be
used in place of interior sutures during surgery. Its specially formulated
to be particularly good at sealing flesh. We used it in the Grand Canyon to
seal these horriffic cracks we'd get in our heels from the dryness combined
with the constant immersion in river water. Works like a charm for cuts of
all sorts.


Not _quite_, IIRC, its invention, but close. IIRC, when the US Army
found out about it (in the early stages of the US involvement in
Vietnam), they quickly started using it in the field, became a large
buyer, and that helped further develop it.

Also, keep in mind that medical grade glue and "Super/Krazy Glue" are
slightly different in formula. I've had the "store" variety used on me
in early childhood, and used it myself since I was 7 or 8, and had no
reaction. I've talked to doctor friends who also swear by it and say it
is as safe as the medical grade, but as always, YMMV.

TC,
R
--riverman



Charlie Wilson July 11th, 2004 09:55 PM

First Aid kits
 
Mine consists of a Cutter snake bite kit, After Bite brand anti-itch
stuff, duct tape for heel blisters and just about everything else, and a few
Dilaudid to take care of the pain while being driven to the hospital. Oh
yeah, don't forget the HMO card.




Charlie Wilson July 11th, 2004 09:55 PM

First Aid kits
 
Mine consists of a Cutter snake bite kit, After Bite brand anti-itch
stuff, duct tape for heel blisters and just about everything else, and a few
Dilaudid to take care of the pain while being driven to the hospital. Oh
yeah, don't forget the HMO card.




[email protected] July 11th, 2004 10:10 PM

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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 19:11:59 GMT, eric paul zamora
wrote:


Quite well. But be careful on which brand you use. The first one I tried
(can't remember the brand) caused more pain than the cut on my thumb. It
sealed the wound, but hurt like hell. The one I now use is called Nexcare and
comes in a small bottle with a brush applicator. It is excellent for sealing
cracked skin (my thumbs) in the winter. *Don't*, however, use in on an
infected would.


Dave



I've gotta second this.... i bought some a year ago to use on my little
girl if it was ever necessary, adding to the rest of the stuff i have at
home.

a few months later, i tried it on myself, first time out of the box. i had
a little paper cut which bled well at the beginning but was more of an
inconvenience than anything else. i thought the stuff would seal it up
pretty good. well, it DID, but for the first half an hour after aplication,
it hurt more than anything i could recall. i immediately (after recovering
enough) sat my little girl down and showed her the blue box and the little
glass vial the stuff was package in and lectured her to NEVER allow anyone
to apply it to her, ever.


That sounds like New-Skin (googling it up ought to confirm), and that
and similar "liquid bandaids" aren't the same thing as store or
medical-grade "super glue," which is something like "cyanoacrylic."
I've been told by people I trust that the only differences in the two
grades of "super glues" is the carrier, the cost, and the medical-grade
stuff packing, etc., is sterile.

TC,
R

SteveB July 11th, 2004 10:28 PM

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Darndest thing.........


Just went to Ace for some cable connectors. At the checkout counter, they
got these tweezers with a magnifying glass on them!

Well, OF COURSE, I bought one.

Steve



snakefiddler July 11th, 2004 10:35 PM

First Aid kits
 

"George Adams" wrote in message
...
From: "riverman"


My question: how many of us out there carry a small first aid kit in

their
vest when they're fishing, or in their float tube? How many folks carry

them
in their car instead, and how many don't carry anything at all?


I carry one in my car. The contents, to the best of my memory a
Several sizes and shapes of bandaids.
Large and small gauze pads.
Tape
Alcohol wipes
Anti bacterial ointment.
Merthiolate
Roll of gauze
Ace Bandage
Finger splint
Scissors
Tweezers
Latex gloves
Aspirin
Aleve
Immodium
There are probably a few more items that I have forgotten. Over the years,

I've
used every item listed except the finger splint.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only

dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller



add to that list some tea bags- they contain tannic acid, which serves as an
excellent hemostatic agent. you wet them and apply them to the wound.

snake



SteveB July 11th, 2004 10:47 PM

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"Greg Pavlov" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 12:05:07 -0500, wrote:


I would add that a tube of "super glue" should be in all kits. This is
very handy for sealing annoying minor cuts or "new-skinning" blisters,
and could be a life-saver in the event of a major cut/wound. Make sure
to get the "dropper" type and not the "push pen" type. The kind I look
for is the stubby, round bottle with the screw-on cap.



How do you use it ? Apply it to the open wound or
try to push and glue the skin together ? If you
put it on an open wound, what does that accomplish ?
Sealing it from exposure ? I accidentally got some
on a cut while I was tying flies I cheat by putting
a bit on "here and there" :-) and I was surprised
to find tha it hurt pretty badly.


I haven't used it on a really bad open wound yet. But it really helps when
you have a split at the end of your finger, right at the corner of the nail,
or around the nails where you can't get a bandage to. It keeps the skin
from parting every time you squeeze something and that stabbing pain from a
tiny wound in the right place. It helps to heal it, and by the time it
wears off, the wound is just about healed. I keep daubing on more if the
wound isn't healed yet. I think it also helps keep the skin around a wound
from pulling on the sensitive part, like a butterfly bandage does.

Steve




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