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snakefiddler July 17th, 2004 01:37 PM

lake fishing
 
i am thinking of heading out to a local lake sunday mornin to rent a boat
and do some trout fishing.
my question is this: does one use different flies for that kind of trout
fishing than for stream fishing? if so, what?
i have seen the trout that come out of that lake, and they can be pretty
large, so i'm guessing larger flies. also, it is a stocked lake, and maybe
that makes a difference in how to fish it?
i appreciate any advice.
thanks in advance-

snakefidddler



rw July 17th, 2004 02:50 PM

lake fishing
 
snakefiddler wrote:
i am thinking of heading out to a local lake sunday mornin to rent a boat
and do some trout fishing.
my question is this: does one use different flies for that kind of trout
fishing than for stream fishing? if so, what?


Lake fishing is very different from stream fishing, and there are many
ways to do it. For now, try stripping a woolly bugger, or if there are
rises try putting a dry fly right on top of the rise. Because there's no
current you can't tell where the trout are unless you see them. They
cruise around looking for food. Good places to fish are the inlet, the
outlet, dropoffs, points, and weed beds, but the fish could be anywhere.

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rw July 17th, 2004 02:50 PM

lake fishing
 
snakefiddler wrote:
i am thinking of heading out to a local lake sunday mornin to rent a boat
and do some trout fishing.
my question is this: does one use different flies for that kind of trout
fishing than for stream fishing? if so, what?


Lake fishing is very different from stream fishing, and there are many
ways to do it. For now, try stripping a woolly bugger, or if there are
rises try putting a dry fly right on top of the rise. Because there's no
current you can't tell where the trout are unless you see them. They
cruise around looking for food. Good places to fish are the inlet, the
outlet, dropoffs, points, and weed beds, but the fish could be anywhere.

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Mark Bowen July 17th, 2004 03:01 PM

lake fishing
 

"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
i am thinking of heading out to a local lake sunday mornin to rent a boat
and do some trout fishing.
my question is this: does one use different flies for that kind of trout
fishing than for stream fishing? if so, what?
i have seen the trout that come out of that lake, and they can be pretty
large, so i'm guessing larger flies. also, it is a stocked lake, and maybe
that makes a difference in how to fish it?
i appreciate any advice.
thanks in advance-

snakefidddler



If you are headed to Price Lake, rent one of the john boats, as opposed to one of the
canoes. The john boat will be a more stable platform from which to cast. Where a hat
that covers the back of your head and neck, as you are likely to strike the water on
your backcast. When your fly strikes the water, you will, probably, have lost control
of you cast at that point causin' your fly to swing sideways rather than comin'
straight forward on the forward cast. Thus, the possibility of the fly embeddin' in
the back of your head, neck, or an ear.

Unless you have a sinkin' tip/line, you may want to stick close to the shore line or
at least the shallower parts of the lake. You are more likely to catch sunfish by the
shore, as opposed to trout, but they are fun too! If you can get up close in to where
Boone's Fork enters the lake you may get into some trout.

Try some streamer patterns: Hornberg, wollybuggers, etc. Try some wet flys too. If
you go with streamers or wet flys, vary your retrieve to see what might work--slow,
med. and fast retrieves. Tie on some of the poppers and bluegill patters that Frank
sent ya. I can't recall if Big Dale sent you any of his flys, but if he did--and it
is likely he did, as he sends flys to just about everyone, whether they flyfish or
not. (yeah, I know "whether you like it or not"). The foam patterns will get you
lots of strikes, and will give you an opportunity to get your hook-set timin' down.
Give your top water patterns a bit of action--jerk them and let'em set for a second or
so, rinse and repeat.

Gook luck! I will try to get some time after work this comin' week to hit the water
with ya. May bring up the canoe, so we can fish Price together.

Oh yeah, take something along (string, twine, small rope) to secure your gear to the
boat or canoe. If you happen to take a spill, you want lose all your non-floatin'
stuff to the bottom of the lake.

Mark




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Sierra fisher July 18th, 2004 04:37 AM

lake fishing
 
The first thing you should do is establish yourself with a local fly shop
(or guide). Buy something there. Then ask for their recommendations. Buy
some of thier flys. Get advice about when, where and how. Don't ask this
group, because they can only answer you in generalities since they likely
don't know your area
I could tell you which flies I try first when I go to a lake, but a fly shop
can probably give you much more specific info

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"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
i am thinking of heading out to a local lake sunday mornin to rent a boat
and do some trout fishing.
my question is this: does one use different flies for that kind of trout
fishing than for stream fishing? if so, what?
i have seen the trout that come out of that lake, and they can be pretty
large, so i'm guessing larger flies. also, it is a stocked lake, and

maybe
that makes a difference in how to fish it?
i appreciate any advice.
thanks in advance-

snakefidddler





Sierra fisher July 18th, 2004 04:37 AM

lake fishing
 
The first thing you should do is establish yourself with a local fly shop
(or guide). Buy something there. Then ask for their recommendations. Buy
some of thier flys. Get advice about when, where and how. Don't ask this
group, because they can only answer you in generalities since they likely
don't know your area
I could tell you which flies I try first when I go to a lake, but a fly shop
can probably give you much more specific info

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"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
i am thinking of heading out to a local lake sunday mornin to rent a boat
and do some trout fishing.
my question is this: does one use different flies for that kind of trout
fishing than for stream fishing? if so, what?
i have seen the trout that come out of that lake, and they can be pretty
large, so i'm guessing larger flies. also, it is a stocked lake, and

maybe
that makes a difference in how to fish it?
i appreciate any advice.
thanks in advance-

snakefidddler





Mark Bowen July 18th, 2004 10:08 AM

lake fishing
 

"Sierra fisher" wrote in message
...
The first thing you should do is establish yourself with a local fly shop
(or guide). Buy something there. Then ask for their recommendations. Buy
some of thier flys. Get advice about when, where and how. Don't ask this
group, because they can only answer you in generalities since they likely
don't know your area
I could tell you which flies I try first when I go to a lake, but a fly shop
can probably give you much more specific info


She has already done as you suggested, but long before you suggested such. Now she
has asked for advice from the group which she has also received, form someone who
knows exactly where she will be fishing.

Maybe you could go to one of the fly fishing website and assist someone on one of the
many boards available, if you aren't willing to assist members of this group.

Mark


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Mark Bowen July 18th, 2004 10:08 AM

lake fishing
 

"Sierra fisher" wrote in message
...
The first thing you should do is establish yourself with a local fly shop
(or guide). Buy something there. Then ask for their recommendations. Buy
some of thier flys. Get advice about when, where and how. Don't ask this
group, because they can only answer you in generalities since they likely
don't know your area
I could tell you which flies I try first when I go to a lake, but a fly shop
can probably give you much more specific info


She has already done as you suggested, but long before you suggested such. Now she
has asked for advice from the group which she has also received, form someone who
knows exactly where she will be fishing.

Maybe you could go to one of the fly fishing website and assist someone on one of the
many boards available, if you aren't willing to assist members of this group.

Mark


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snakefiddler July 18th, 2004 03:48 PM

lake fishing
 

"Sierra fisher" wrote in message
...
The first thing you should do is establish yourself with a local fly shop
(or guide). Buy something there. Then ask for their recommendations.

Buy
some of thier flys. Get advice about when, where and how. Don't ask this
group, because they can only answer you in generalities since they likely
don't know your area
I could tell you which flies I try first when I go to a lake, but a fly

shop
can probably give you much more specific info

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"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
i am thinking of heading out to a local lake sunday mornin to rent a

boat
and do some trout fishing.
my question is this: does one use different flies for that kind of

trout
fishing than for stream fishing? if so, what?
i have seen the trout that come out of that lake, and they can be pretty
large, so i'm guessing larger flies. also, it is a stocked lake, and

maybe
that makes a difference in how to fish it?
i appreciate any advice.
thanks in advance-

snakefidddler


thanks-

i have developed a pretty good relationship with appalacian anglers- i find
that i can go in there any time with questions, or requests for assistance,
(with tying knots for example) and they are very helpful fellas. they have
taught me a couple of knots, and they showed me how to make perfection
loops, and how to connect my leader to my line. i no longer live in fear of
totaling screwing up my leader while fishing, and having to end my outing
for lack of ability to put a new one on.
i have gone in and showed my cache of flies, and asked what i need that i
don't have, and they have only tried to sell me one or two flies, so i don't
think they will try to rip me off.
the last time i was in they asked me how it's going, where i have been
fishing, and they tell me what to use in those particular areas. really
nice guys. they told me to be sure i bring in a picture of that big trout
when i get it- yeah, right - i feel like it will never happen!



Tim J. July 18th, 2004 05:11 PM

lake fishing
 

"snakefiddler" wrote...
snip
they told me to be sure i bring in a picture of that big trout
when i get it- yeah, right - i feel like it will never happen!


Ahhhh, but it will, and then the infection really starts to spread. It usually
infects the head and heart first and then moves rapidly to the wallet.
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Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



Tim J. July 18th, 2004 05:11 PM

lake fishing
 

"snakefiddler" wrote...
snip
they told me to be sure i bring in a picture of that big trout
when i get it- yeah, right - i feel like it will never happen!


Ahhhh, but it will, and then the infection really starts to spread. It usually
infects the head and heart first and then moves rapidly to the wallet.
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



snakefiddler July 19th, 2004 03:49 AM

lake fishing
 

"Tim J." wrote in message
news:IixKc.109319$a24.103227@attbi_s03...

"snakefiddler" wrote...
snip
they told me to be sure i bring in a picture of that big trout
when i get it- yeah, right - i feel like it will never happen!


Ahhhh, but it will,


thanks for the encouragement


and then the infection really starts to spread.


feeling like i do at this point, i can only imagine what will happen when i
get that trout. i had gotten one on my spin rod, when i first started
fishing, but i am anxious to repeat the experinece on my fly rod.
this fishin stuff is addictive, though. i will never let it interfere with
my schoolwork, however, my housekeeping *has* suffered. i am usually a
meticulous housekeeper- my offspring tell me i am neurotic, (but what the
hell do they know- they're slobs :-}), but i find myself breaking promise
after promise to myself to get caught up on laundry, or dusting, or grocery
shopping.....
very uncharacteristic


It usually
infects the head and heart first


indeed

and then moves rapidly to the wallet.


i can see how that could happen!

snake

TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj





snakefiddler July 19th, 2004 03:49 AM

lake fishing
 

"Tim J." wrote in message
news:IixKc.109319$a24.103227@attbi_s03...

"snakefiddler" wrote...
snip
they told me to be sure i bring in a picture of that big trout
when i get it- yeah, right - i feel like it will never happen!


Ahhhh, but it will,


thanks for the encouragement


and then the infection really starts to spread.


feeling like i do at this point, i can only imagine what will happen when i
get that trout. i had gotten one on my spin rod, when i first started
fishing, but i am anxious to repeat the experinece on my fly rod.
this fishin stuff is addictive, though. i will never let it interfere with
my schoolwork, however, my housekeeping *has* suffered. i am usually a
meticulous housekeeper- my offspring tell me i am neurotic, (but what the
hell do they know- they're slobs :-}), but i find myself breaking promise
after promise to myself to get caught up on laundry, or dusting, or grocery
shopping.....
very uncharacteristic


It usually
infects the head and heart first


indeed

and then moves rapidly to the wallet.


i can see how that could happen!

snake

TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj





kibnedyo July 19th, 2004 03:50 AM

lake fishing
 
Try a search on Loch style flyfishing. You will find some ideas to try that
appear to apply to trout fishing all over the world.

Generally all you need is a floating line. Weighted flies will help if you
feel they do not get down enough. Another great aid is a drogue, essentially
a water parachute used to slow boat drift and adjust attitudein windy
conditions.

Don't stick to minnow patterns many nymph, chronomid and dry fly patterns
work just as well, especially in teams of two or three depending on local
regulations. A good one to add to the box is the carrot nymph.

You will find it is the action you put on the fly that attracts fish
attention. Often with minnows I find the stop time where the fly is sinking
is the time they seem to be taken. Nymphs etc benefit from long 'slow'
steady pulls to full arm extension.

Don't go wild with the rod flick to set the hook either. I reckon more fish
are lost that way than any other. Keep the line straight in the water to
maintain contact with your flies and use your 'left' hand on the line to
pull the line back to set the hook, then raise the rod to fight the fish.

Here are some links
http://www.flyfishtasmania.com.au/Ar...loch_style.asp
http://www.flylife.com.au/library/articles/31/31.html

The second article is from one of Australia's leading guides and arguably
experts on loch style fishing. Go to the flylife home page to order some of
his books if you want to learn more.


"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
i am thinking of heading out to a local lake sunday mornin to rent a boat
and do some trout fishing.
my question is this: does one use different flies for that kind of trout
fishing than for stream fishing? if so, what?
i have seen the trout that come out of that lake, and they can be pretty
large, so i'm guessing larger flies. also, it is a stocked lake, and

maybe
that makes a difference in how to fish it?
i appreciate any advice.
thanks in advance-

snakefidddler





kibnedyo July 19th, 2004 03:50 AM

lake fishing
 
Try a search on Loch style flyfishing. You will find some ideas to try that
appear to apply to trout fishing all over the world.

Generally all you need is a floating line. Weighted flies will help if you
feel they do not get down enough. Another great aid is a drogue, essentially
a water parachute used to slow boat drift and adjust attitudein windy
conditions.

Don't stick to minnow patterns many nymph, chronomid and dry fly patterns
work just as well, especially in teams of two or three depending on local
regulations. A good one to add to the box is the carrot nymph.

You will find it is the action you put on the fly that attracts fish
attention. Often with minnows I find the stop time where the fly is sinking
is the time they seem to be taken. Nymphs etc benefit from long 'slow'
steady pulls to full arm extension.

Don't go wild with the rod flick to set the hook either. I reckon more fish
are lost that way than any other. Keep the line straight in the water to
maintain contact with your flies and use your 'left' hand on the line to
pull the line back to set the hook, then raise the rod to fight the fish.

Here are some links
http://www.flyfishtasmania.com.au/Ar...loch_style.asp
http://www.flylife.com.au/library/articles/31/31.html

The second article is from one of Australia's leading guides and arguably
experts on loch style fishing. Go to the flylife home page to order some of
his books if you want to learn more.


"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
i am thinking of heading out to a local lake sunday mornin to rent a boat
and do some trout fishing.
my question is this: does one use different flies for that kind of trout
fishing than for stream fishing? if so, what?
i have seen the trout that come out of that lake, and they can be pretty
large, so i'm guessing larger flies. also, it is a stocked lake, and

maybe
that makes a difference in how to fish it?
i appreciate any advice.
thanks in advance-

snakefidddler





Tim J. July 20th, 2004 08:21 PM

lake fishing
 

"snakefiddler" wrote...
snip
oh, and to dispel any rumors-i'm not pregnant! :-)


It's a good thing Ken's on a fishing trip, 'cause THAT was a softball for his
favorite subject. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
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snakefiddler July 20th, 2004 09:07 PM

lake fishing
 

"Tim J." wrote in message
...

"snakefiddler" wrote...
snip
oh, and to dispel any rumors-i'm not pregnant! :-)


It's a good thing Ken's on a fishing trip, 'cause THAT was a softball for

his
favorite subject. ;-)
--
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Tim


fear not- i'm sure he'll swing at it when he gets back...
or maybe he'll surprise us, and take it for the frivolous, grin inducing
remark it was intended and leave it alone .......
anyway, we can always just ignore him.
snake
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj





snakefiddler July 20th, 2004 10:38 PM

lake fishing
 

"GregP" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:06:58 GMT, "Charlie Wilson"
wrote:

anyway, what was that movie? i've seen it like three times-


"A Place in the Sun"


... which was the movie version of the novel.


thanks greg-
never read the book- didn't realize the movie was based on it. anyone have
any info on dreiser's involvement in the making of the film, or how he felt
about it?

snake



rw July 21st, 2004 04:38 AM

lake fishing
 
snakefiddler wrote:

other favorite liz taylor movies:

suddenly last summer
who's afraid of virginia wolf
butterfield 8
giant


Father of the Bride

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rw July 21st, 2004 04:41 AM

lake fishing
 
snakefiddler wrote:

other favorite liz taylor movies:

suddenly last summer
who's afraid of virginia wolf
butterfield 8
giant


Also, Cat on a Hot Tin Roof

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