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Sideshow Raheem July 21st, 2004 06:06 PM

Swallowed Hooks
 
What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that 3
pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!



Rodney July 21st, 2004 06:40 PM

Swallowed Hooks
 
Sideshow Raheem wrote:

What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that 3
pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!



Cut the line, do not try to remove the hook if it is out of reach (past
the throat)

The best thing to do in the future is try to reduce this, start setting
the hook faster, don't let them run with the bait, or use a circle hook,
or start drop shotting more

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com


Sideshow Raheem July 21st, 2004 06:43 PM

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"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Sideshow Raheem wrote:

What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook.

I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want

that 3
pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!



Cut the line, do not try to remove the hook if it is out of reach (past
the throat)

The best thing to do in the future is try to reduce this, start setting
the hook faster, don't let them run with the bait, or use a circle hook,
or start drop shotting more

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com


I've been hearing that the hook WON'T rust or rot away if I do this and the
fish will starve to death.



Christopher P. Cericola July 21st, 2004 06:43 PM

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"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...
What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that 3
pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

I was always from the school of thought that you push the hook in as far as
you can, if possible, as the fish will ultiamtely digest the hook.
Thankfully, I haven't had many deeply hooked fish.

Christopher



Budd Cochran July 21st, 2004 06:44 PM

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"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...
What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that

3
pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!



Do not rip the hook out or try to remove if it beyond the reach of forceps,
pliers or a disgorger. If the gill is damaged and bleeding, the fish will
die anyway.

Cut the line as close to the hook as possible without causing more
injury,and release the fish. The hook will rust away in a few weeks.

This is why I use snelled hooks and snap swivels so much.

Budd



Alan D July 21st, 2004 06:55 PM

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Ohio DNR also recommends cutting the line from the hook as close as
possible. The fish will spit the hook eventually.

Alan D.


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
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"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Sideshow Raheem wrote:

What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook.

I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want

that 3
pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!



Cut the line, do not try to remove the hook if it is out of reach (past
the throat)

The best thing to do in the future is try to reduce this, start setting
the hook faster, don't let them run with the bait, or use a circle hook,
or start drop shotting more

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com


I've been hearing that the hook WON'T rust or rot away if I do this and

the
fish will starve to death.





Alan D July 21st, 2004 06:55 PM

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Ohio DNR also recommends cutting the line from the hook as close as
possible. The fish will spit the hook eventually.

Alan D.


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
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"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Sideshow Raheem wrote:

What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook.

I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want

that 3
pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!



Cut the line, do not try to remove the hook if it is out of reach (past
the throat)

The best thing to do in the future is try to reduce this, start setting
the hook faster, don't let them run with the bait, or use a circle hook,
or start drop shotting more

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com


I've been hearing that the hook WON'T rust or rot away if I do this and

the
fish will starve to death.





Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers July 21st, 2004 08:06 PM

Swallowed Hooks
 

"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...
What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that

3
pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!



There's been a lot of controversy over what to do with gut hooked fish. The
one article that I've read that makes the most sense can be found at the
following link:

http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com/modu... der=0&thold=0

--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers July 21st, 2004 08:06 PM

Swallowed Hooks
 

"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...
What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that

3
pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!



There's been a lot of controversy over what to do with gut hooked fish. The
one article that I've read that makes the most sense can be found at the
following link:

http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com/modu... der=0&thold=0

--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



Rodney July 21st, 2004 09:36 PM

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Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:

http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com/modu... der=0&thold=0


WEll I guess there is no real good solution except to stop gut hooking
fish, which I have stopped doing .

I don't fish soft plastics except when they are rigged with the hook in
the middle of the line, keeping the hook strung between the weight and
rod keeps the fish from swallowing it,, the line stops it from going
past the hook's eye into the fish

On using live/natural baits I do the same, (see below) or use a circle hook

I have documented over 1,000 fish caught over the last 18 months from
blue gills to blue fish (18 different species in both salt and fresh
water) using the Stand Out Hooks, and have hooked every fish in the top
lip that were caught vertical fishing or while using a float and natural
baits in the majority of cases. I had not one single failure even when
the rod/s was left unattended. On bottom fishing with the weight behind
the hook (tight lined) casting out at extreme angle I did have 7 corner
of the mouth hook ups on catfish, still no gut hooks, as the weight
still keeps that hook from getting swallowed.

I am sure that other hooks tied this way will not allow gut hooking
either, but you will/might miss some fish :-)

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com


Rodney July 21st, 2004 09:36 PM

Swallowed Hooks
 
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:

http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com/modu... der=0&thold=0


WEll I guess there is no real good solution except to stop gut hooking
fish, which I have stopped doing .

I don't fish soft plastics except when they are rigged with the hook in
the middle of the line, keeping the hook strung between the weight and
rod keeps the fish from swallowing it,, the line stops it from going
past the hook's eye into the fish

On using live/natural baits I do the same, (see below) or use a circle hook

I have documented over 1,000 fish caught over the last 18 months from
blue gills to blue fish (18 different species in both salt and fresh
water) using the Stand Out Hooks, and have hooked every fish in the top
lip that were caught vertical fishing or while using a float and natural
baits in the majority of cases. I had not one single failure even when
the rod/s was left unattended. On bottom fishing with the weight behind
the hook (tight lined) casting out at extreme angle I did have 7 corner
of the mouth hook ups on catfish, still no gut hooks, as the weight
still keeps that hook from getting swallowed.

I am sure that other hooks tied this way will not allow gut hooking
either, but you will/might miss some fish :-)

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com


Richard Liebert July 21st, 2004 11:04 PM

Swallowed Hooks
 
Leave about 18" of line hanging out of the fish's mouth. This will help
prevent the hook from blocking the throat so it can feed. I read a study
that basically stated that the fish has a poor chance of survival,
especially if there is any blood present. The hook does not rust quickly, if
at all.


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...
What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that

3
pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!





Richard Liebert July 21st, 2004 11:04 PM

Swallowed Hooks
 
Leave about 18" of line hanging out of the fish's mouth. This will help
prevent the hook from blocking the throat so it can feed. I read a study
that basically stated that the fish has a poor chance of survival,
especially if there is any blood present. The hook does not rust quickly, if
at all.


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...
What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that

3
pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!





Jerry Barton \(NervisRek\) July 22nd, 2004 12:32 AM

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http://www.dbarb.com/


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...
What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that

3
pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!





Jerry Barton \(NervisRek\) July 22nd, 2004 12:32 AM

Swallowed Hooks
 
http://www.dbarb.com/


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...
What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that

3
pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!





Dan Krueger July 22nd, 2004 12:59 AM

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That doesn't make any sense. Why not ten feet? I don't get the logic.

Dan


Richard Liebert wrote:

Leave about 18" of line hanging out of the fish's mouth. This will help
prevent the hook from blocking the throat so it can feed. I read a study
that basically stated that the fish has a poor chance of survival,
especially if there is any blood present. The hook does not rust quickly, if
at all.


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...

What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that


3

pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!







Dan Krueger July 22nd, 2004 12:59 AM

Swallowed Hooks
 
That doesn't make any sense. Why not ten feet? I don't get the logic.

Dan


Richard Liebert wrote:

Leave about 18" of line hanging out of the fish's mouth. This will help
prevent the hook from blocking the throat so it can feed. I read a study
that basically stated that the fish has a poor chance of survival,
especially if there is any blood present. The hook does not rust quickly, if
at all.


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...

What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that


3

pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!







Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers July 22nd, 2004 02:22 AM

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"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
ink.net...
That doesn't make any sense. Why not ten feet? I don't get the logic.

Dan


Read the article in the link I posted. It says that if you cut the line at
the hook, the hook can pivot and close off the fish's throat, effectively
blocking it from eating and dooming it to a slow death by starvation.

Leaving a long tag end to the line helps keep the hook clear of the throat
and allows the fish to eat without obstruction. Too much line and you risk
the fish getting the line tangled and the fish becoming tethered, also
effectively killing it.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com




Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers July 22nd, 2004 02:22 AM

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"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
ink.net...
That doesn't make any sense. Why not ten feet? I don't get the logic.

Dan


Read the article in the link I posted. It says that if you cut the line at
the hook, the hook can pivot and close off the fish's throat, effectively
blocking it from eating and dooming it to a slow death by starvation.

Leaving a long tag end to the line helps keep the hook clear of the throat
and allows the fish to eat without obstruction. Too much line and you risk
the fish getting the line tangled and the fish becoming tethered, also
effectively killing it.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com




Richard Liebert July 22nd, 2004 02:23 AM

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The line hanging out of the fishes mouth drags in the water. The drag helps
to prevent the hook from moving sideways in the throat, further blocking the
throat.

I didn't make this up, I read it in a very lengthy and scientific study.
I'll post the study if I can find it.


"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
ink.net...
That doesn't make any sense. Why not ten feet? I don't get the logic.

Dan


Richard Liebert wrote:

Leave about 18" of line hanging out of the fish's mouth. This will help
prevent the hook from blocking the throat so it can feed. I read a study
that basically stated that the fish has a poor chance of survival,
especially if there is any blood present. The hook does not rust

quickly, if
at all.


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...

What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook.

I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want

that

3

pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!









Richard Liebert July 22nd, 2004 02:23 AM

Swallowed Hooks
 
The line hanging out of the fishes mouth drags in the water. The drag helps
to prevent the hook from moving sideways in the throat, further blocking the
throat.

I didn't make this up, I read it in a very lengthy and scientific study.
I'll post the study if I can find it.


"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
ink.net...
That doesn't make any sense. Why not ten feet? I don't get the logic.

Dan


Richard Liebert wrote:

Leave about 18" of line hanging out of the fish's mouth. This will help
prevent the hook from blocking the throat so it can feed. I read a study
that basically stated that the fish has a poor chance of survival,
especially if there is any blood present. The hook does not rust

quickly, if
at all.


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...

What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook.

I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want

that

3

pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!









Richard Liebert July 22nd, 2004 02:28 AM

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Got the article. Follow this link, it is a very convincing article.

http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/articles/T31.htm



"Richard Liebert" wrote in message
...
The line hanging out of the fishes mouth drags in the water. The drag

helps
to prevent the hook from moving sideways in the throat, further blocking

the
throat.

I didn't make this up, I read it in a very lengthy and scientific study.
I'll post the study if I can find it.


"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
ink.net...
That doesn't make any sense. Why not ten feet? I don't get the logic.

Dan


Richard Liebert wrote:

Leave about 18" of line hanging out of the fish's mouth. This will

help
prevent the hook from blocking the throat so it can feed. I read a

study
that basically stated that the fish has a poor chance of survival,
especially if there is any blood present. The hook does not rust

quickly, if
at all.


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...

What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook.

I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want

that

3

pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!











Richard Liebert July 22nd, 2004 02:28 AM

Swallowed Hooks
 
Got the article. Follow this link, it is a very convincing article.

http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/articles/T31.htm



"Richard Liebert" wrote in message
...
The line hanging out of the fishes mouth drags in the water. The drag

helps
to prevent the hook from moving sideways in the throat, further blocking

the
throat.

I didn't make this up, I read it in a very lengthy and scientific study.
I'll post the study if I can find it.


"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
ink.net...
That doesn't make any sense. Why not ten feet? I don't get the logic.

Dan


Richard Liebert wrote:

Leave about 18" of line hanging out of the fish's mouth. This will

help
prevent the hook from blocking the throat so it can feed. I read a

study
that basically stated that the fish has a poor chance of survival,
especially if there is any blood present. The hook does not rust

quickly, if
at all.


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...

What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook.

I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want

that

3

pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!











IBNFSHN July 22nd, 2004 03:17 AM

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What is wrong with taking it home and eating it. That 3 pounder just might
eat a 3 ouncer that is destined to grow up to be a 33 pounder. One never
knows.

--
Bill
Chesapeake, Va


"Jerry Barton (NervisRek)" wrote in message
...
http://www.dbarb.com/


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...
What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook.

I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want

that
3
pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!







IBNFSHN July 22nd, 2004 03:17 AM

Swallowed Hooks
 
What is wrong with taking it home and eating it. That 3 pounder just might
eat a 3 ouncer that is destined to grow up to be a 33 pounder. One never
knows.

--
Bill
Chesapeake, Va


"Jerry Barton (NervisRek)" wrote in message
...
http://www.dbarb.com/


"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...
What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook.

I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want

that
3
pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!







Rob Storm July 22nd, 2004 03:33 AM

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Steve -- I happen to know Ralph Manns. When I met him in the early 1990s, he
was a graduate student in freshwater biology specializing in black bass at
Southwest Texas State University -- which at that time had one of the best
warm water freshwater fisheries programs in the nation. I haven't seen Ralph
in more than 10 years, but when I knew him he was about as knowledgeable about
black bass biology as any person I ever met. He had done all sorts of research
and his findings frequently flew in the face of conventional wisdon. He told
me back then to mash the barb down on my hooks and I'd be able to release most
fish unharmed -- small price to pay for the few fish I might miss. I've been
practicing barbless bassing ever since.

Family, Friends, Fishing,
Rob Storm
http://stormsrestaurants.com

Rob Storm July 22nd, 2004 03:33 AM

Swallowed Hooks
 
Steve -- I happen to know Ralph Manns. When I met him in the early 1990s, he
was a graduate student in freshwater biology specializing in black bass at
Southwest Texas State University -- which at that time had one of the best
warm water freshwater fisheries programs in the nation. I haven't seen Ralph
in more than 10 years, but when I knew him he was about as knowledgeable about
black bass biology as any person I ever met. He had done all sorts of research
and his findings frequently flew in the face of conventional wisdon. He told
me back then to mash the barb down on my hooks and I'd be able to release most
fish unharmed -- small price to pay for the few fish I might miss. I've been
practicing barbless bassing ever since.

Family, Friends, Fishing,
Rob Storm
http://stormsrestaurants.com

Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers July 22nd, 2004 03:38 AM

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"Richard Liebert" wrote in message
...
Got the article. Follow this link, it is a very convincing article.

http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/articles/T31.htm


Ralph gave me permission to use the same article. That's what convinced me
to concentrate harder to prevent deep hooking in the first place, and to
when I must, leave a long tag end to the cut off line.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers July 22nd, 2004 03:38 AM

Swallowed Hooks
 

"Richard Liebert" wrote in message
...
Got the article. Follow this link, it is a very convincing article.

http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/articles/T31.htm


Ralph gave me permission to use the same article. That's what convinced me
to concentrate harder to prevent deep hooking in the first place, and to
when I must, leave a long tag end to the cut off line.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



John July 22nd, 2004 07:50 AM

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Great question! Has anyone got any links to any scientific studies that
were made which showed mortality rate outcomes from various hook removal
choices?

Thanks.
John

"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...
What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that

3
pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!





John July 22nd, 2004 07:50 AM

Swallowed Hooks
 
Great question! Has anyone got any links to any scientific studies that
were made which showed mortality rate outcomes from various hook removal
choices?

Thanks.
John

"Sideshow Raheem" wrote in message
news:voxLc.134509$a24.100289@attbi_s03...
What is the recommended thing to do when the bass swallows the hook. I've
heard many different things and really don't know what to do. I want that

3
pounder I caught to live and become a 6 pounder...

Thanks!





BradS July 22nd, 2004 08:59 AM

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"John" wrote in message ...
Great question! Has anyone got any links to any scientific studies that
were made which showed mortality rate outcomes from various hook removal
choices?

Thanks.
John


/lurk off

Have you even bothered to read this whole thread?

http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/articles/T31.htm

/lurk on



BradS July 22nd, 2004 08:59 AM

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"John" wrote in message ...
Great question! Has anyone got any links to any scientific studies that
were made which showed mortality rate outcomes from various hook removal
choices?

Thanks.
John


/lurk off

Have you even bothered to read this whole thread?

http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/articles/T31.htm

/lurk on



alwaysfishking July 22nd, 2004 01:46 PM

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snip What is wrong with taking it home and eating it.


Eat a fish? You sick sick man, and I thought I needed therapy. Just Kidding
: -)...and I do need therapy..years and years of it. :-)



Bob Rickard July 22nd, 2004 05:11 PM

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Hey folks. Do you realize that the fact that we are finding no consensus
solution here is because there is no real solution to the damage caused by
the use of hooks. Perhaps what we need to do is to get rid of hooks
altogether? Perhaps we need to start thinking outside the box here? Heck...
maybe we need to burn the darned box all together.

What if we were to replace hooks with pieces of Velcro, and instead of being
hooked, the fish just get their teeth tangled up in this harmless material.
And if that doesn't work, perhaps a small squeeze bottle of crazy glue could
get them stuck to the lure, where a solvent could later be used to release
them unharmed. Just think: you would never have to waste valuable time
sharpening your Velcro or your glue!

Maybe we at SWL should incorporate these ideas on our spinnerbaits right
now. Wow! Maybe then we could even get PETA to endorse us! Hic... anybody
want a swig from my jug? ;-)

--
Bob Rickard
(AKA Dr. Spinnerbait)
www.secretweaponlures.com
--------------------------=x O')))





"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Richard Liebert" wrote in

message
...
Got the article. Follow this link, it is a very convincing article.

http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/articles/T31.htm


Ralph gave me permission to use the same article. That's what convinced

me
to concentrate harder to prevent deep hooking in the first place, and to
when I must, leave a long tag end to the cut off line.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com





Bob Rickard July 22nd, 2004 05:11 PM

Swallowed Hooks
 
Hey folks. Do you realize that the fact that we are finding no consensus
solution here is because there is no real solution to the damage caused by
the use of hooks. Perhaps what we need to do is to get rid of hooks
altogether? Perhaps we need to start thinking outside the box here? Heck...
maybe we need to burn the darned box all together.

What if we were to replace hooks with pieces of Velcro, and instead of being
hooked, the fish just get their teeth tangled up in this harmless material.
And if that doesn't work, perhaps a small squeeze bottle of crazy glue could
get them stuck to the lure, where a solvent could later be used to release
them unharmed. Just think: you would never have to waste valuable time
sharpening your Velcro or your glue!

Maybe we at SWL should incorporate these ideas on our spinnerbaits right
now. Wow! Maybe then we could even get PETA to endorse us! Hic... anybody
want a swig from my jug? ;-)

--
Bob Rickard
(AKA Dr. Spinnerbait)
www.secretweaponlures.com
--------------------------=x O')))





"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Richard Liebert" wrote in

message
...
Got the article. Follow this link, it is a very convincing article.

http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/articles/T31.htm


Ralph gave me permission to use the same article. That's what convinced

me
to concentrate harder to prevent deep hooking in the first place, and to
when I must, leave a long tag end to the cut off line.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com





Scott Seidman July 22nd, 2004 07:31 PM

Swallowed Hooks
 
"Bob Rickard" wrote in news:FGRLc.4769$ZN4.4233
@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com:

Maybe we at SWL should incorporate these ideas on our spinnerbaits right
now. Wow! Maybe then we could even get PETA to endorse us! Hic... anybody
want a swig from my jug? ;-)

--
Bob Rickard
(AKA Dr. Spinnerbait)
www.secretweaponlures.com
--------------------------=x O')))


I wonder if gut hooking is the biggest mortality factor at bass events?

http://www.sdafs.org/tcafs/meetings/96meet/gillilan.htm


Scott

Scott Seidman July 22nd, 2004 07:31 PM

Swallowed Hooks
 
"Bob Rickard" wrote in news:FGRLc.4769$ZN4.4233
@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com:

Maybe we at SWL should incorporate these ideas on our spinnerbaits right
now. Wow! Maybe then we could even get PETA to endorse us! Hic... anybody
want a swig from my jug? ;-)

--
Bob Rickard
(AKA Dr. Spinnerbait)
www.secretweaponlures.com
--------------------------=x O')))


I wonder if gut hooking is the biggest mortality factor at bass events?

http://www.sdafs.org/tcafs/meetings/96meet/gillilan.htm


Scott

Doc \(The Tin Boat King\) July 22nd, 2004 09:27 PM

Swallowed Hooks
 
I'm all for catch and release but if I hook one deep enough that I can't get the hook out I cut the line and retreve the hook when
I'm cleaning him for the grill. Problem solved. Doc
================================================== ================
"Bob Rickard" wrote in message m...
Hey folks. Do you realize that the fact that we are finding no consensus
solution here is because there is no real solution to the damage caused by
the use of hooks. Perhaps what we need to do is to get rid of hooks
altogether? Perhaps we need to start thinking outside the box here? Heck...
maybe we need to burn the darned box all together.

What if we were to replace hooks with pieces of Velcro, and instead of being
hooked, the fish just get their teeth tangled up in this harmless material.
And if that doesn't work, perhaps a small squeeze bottle of crazy glue could
get them stuck to the lure, where a solvent could later be used to release
them unharmed. Just think: you would never have to waste valuable time
sharpening your Velcro or your glue!

Maybe we at SWL should incorporate these ideas on our spinnerbaits right
now. Wow! Maybe then we could even get PETA to endorse us! Hic... anybody
want a swig from my jug? ;-)

--
Bob Rickard
(AKA Dr. Spinnerbait)
www.secretweaponlures.com
--------------------------=x O')))





"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Richard Liebert" wrote in

message
...
Got the article. Follow this link, it is a very convincing article.

http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/articles/T31.htm


Ralph gave me permission to use the same article. That's what convinced

me
to concentrate harder to prevent deep hooking in the first place, and to
when I must, leave a long tag end to the cut off line.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com







Doc \(The Tin Boat King\) July 22nd, 2004 09:27 PM

Swallowed Hooks
 
I'm all for catch and release but if I hook one deep enough that I can't get the hook out I cut the line and retreve the hook when
I'm cleaning him for the grill. Problem solved. Doc
================================================== ================
"Bob Rickard" wrote in message m...
Hey folks. Do you realize that the fact that we are finding no consensus
solution here is because there is no real solution to the damage caused by
the use of hooks. Perhaps what we need to do is to get rid of hooks
altogether? Perhaps we need to start thinking outside the box here? Heck...
maybe we need to burn the darned box all together.

What if we were to replace hooks with pieces of Velcro, and instead of being
hooked, the fish just get their teeth tangled up in this harmless material.
And if that doesn't work, perhaps a small squeeze bottle of crazy glue could
get them stuck to the lure, where a solvent could later be used to release
them unharmed. Just think: you would never have to waste valuable time
sharpening your Velcro or your glue!

Maybe we at SWL should incorporate these ideas on our spinnerbaits right
now. Wow! Maybe then we could even get PETA to endorse us! Hic... anybody
want a swig from my jug? ;-)

--
Bob Rickard
(AKA Dr. Spinnerbait)
www.secretweaponlures.com
--------------------------=x O')))





"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Richard Liebert" wrote in

message
...
Got the article. Follow this link, it is a very convincing article.

http://www.wmi.org/bassfish/articles/T31.htm


Ralph gave me permission to use the same article. That's what convinced

me
to concentrate harder to prevent deep hooking in the first place, and to
when I must, leave a long tag end to the cut off line.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com








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