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or dumb and dumber?

Not sure if was it here or on another board, but someone brought up "dumbest
things you ever did fishing".

Of course, I have a long list of dumb things that I've done fishing. and that's
no surprise to anyone.

But I beat my dumbest act by far.

Saturday night I met up with a friend for a sal****er surf excursion to one of
the jetties in Southern New Jersey. Given that it was going to be high tide, he
suggested that I bring a sinking line. Now mind you, up to this point I've only
fished with sink tips in freshwater, or with intermediates in the salt.

Ok, I already had an airflow intermediate head and running line setup, so I
just purchased the Airflow type 7 full sink head. 35' of 7ips or so (I have no
idea what weight this was, but much heavier than what I've cast so far).

Did some quick lawn practice after setting it up in the afternoon. Thought I
knew what I was doing with this.

9PM met up with my friend Dave down at the jetty, and conditions were far from
ideal. A southern wind, big chop in the surf, the jetties (2 right there) both
soaking in suds.

So went over to the beach, of course now with the wind coming from my casting
side. By now you, the reader, know what's coming, but at this point, I didn't.
I was casting over my left (I'm right handed) shoulder since I don't have a
backcast down yet. However, I wasn't satisfied with my distance, such that I
could make out from how little was being stripped out. It was pretty dark now,
and I didn't notice the significant tailing loops in my line as I cast foward.
I was false casting and let my arm drift over my head when WHAM. Caught my
black deceiver with the 1/0 stainless hook right in my upper lip. Of course
Dave suggested that I'd have to push the point out, cut it off and back it out.
He was only thinking about saving the fly :) However, being only a few miles
from my inlaws home and also the hospital, I didn't try to tough it out on the
beach. Of course, I never got back out there, but there was so much seaweed in
the water anyway that it didn't seem like too much of a loss.

Surprisingly, it didn't really hurt much while just hanging there.
But I was hooked solid and no amount of trying the
push-down-and-back-out-with-a-piece-of-mono-over-the-bend was getting this
thing out. And I knew right there that I was going to feel the verbal barbs a
LOT more than anything the doctor was going to inflict (although the needle to
numb the lip was a b*tch). With most of the feathers clipped off, my wife and 2
security guards at the hospital said I had kind of a hitler mustache look.
Great, thanks. 5 hours, much explaining and embarrassment later, the eye,
thread and remaining feathers cut off, point pushed through and extracted, 1
stitch later, I was home thinking about how to avoid such things in the future.
My wife said she wants to mount the remnants of this fly and put it up in our
family room. Since we've been back home to normal weekly business this idea has
not resurfaced.
Fishing in the daytime only is not an option for striper fishing by foot,
except during the fall run. Nighttime is striper time.

So, here's what I've come up with so far:

(1) barbless hooks for the inevitable :)
(2) daytime practice with that head. I understand I have to develop a different
cast for full sinking heads.
(3) learn to backcast so I can switch sides to compensate for bad cross wind
(4) shorten up my leaders. I had way too long a leader on for nighttime
fishing.
(5) full goalie face mask?

-- Rob

Hooked
 

"Dave suggested that I'd have to push the point out, cut it off and back it
out.
He was only thinking about saving the fly :"

Of course I meant to type that he wanted to crimp the barb down and back it
out!

Hooked
 

"Dave suggested that I'd have to push the point out, cut it off and back it
out.
He was only thinking about saving the fly :"

Of course I meant to type that he wanted to crimp the barb down and back it
out!

Hooked
 

Dang, glad you're OK. You can also try turning your back to the water and
delivering the fly on your backcast.

bruce h

Hooked
 

You can also try turning your back to the water and
delivering the fly on your backcast

Bruce,

I'm going to be practicing this from now on, but really hadn't thought the
cross wind too bad. The wind and the really bad tailing loops and long leader
did me in!

-- Rob

Hooked
 

You can also try turning your back to the water and
delivering the fly on your backcast

Bruce,

I'm going to be practicing this from now on, but really hadn't thought the
cross wind too bad. The wind and the really bad tailing loops and long leader
did me in!

-- Rob

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Rob wrote:snip a bunch:(5) full goalie face mask?

I would prefer a full face motorcycle helmet, at least that is what I use when
getting used to lobbing heavily weighted clousers again. This is another of
those lessons that will not stay learned. Those damn things hurt when they hit
you in the back of the head till you relearn to open up your loops. I seldom
use more that a couple of feet of leader with sinking lines other than
intermediate.

Big Dale

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Rob wrote:snip a bunch:(5) full goalie face mask?

I would prefer a full face motorcycle helmet, at least that is what I use when
getting used to lobbing heavily weighted clousers again. This is another of
those lessons that will not stay learned. Those damn things hurt when they hit
you in the back of the head till you relearn to open up your loops. I seldom
use more that a couple of feet of leader with sinking lines other than
intermediate.

Big Dale

Hooked
 

or dumb and dumber?

Man, I'm glad that kinda stuff happens to other people. I guess I've
been lucky and have nice, uneventful fishing trips.

--
Frank Reid
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Hooked
 

On 22 Jul 2004 18:34:44 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

(-- Rob) wrote in
:

(3) learn to backcast so I can switch sides to compensate for bad
cross wind


Also, learn to cast with either hand

Scott

and get a two-handed rod that makes this process a lot easier, plus it
tends to keep the fly higher

Peter

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On 22 Jul 2004 18:34:44 GMT, Scott Seidman
wrote:

(-- Rob) wrote in
:

(3) learn to backcast so I can switch sides to compensate for bad
cross wind


Also, learn to cast with either hand

Scott

and get a two-handed rod that makes this process a lot easier, plus it
tends to keep the fly higher

Peter

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Also, learn to cast with either hand

Scott

and get a two-handed rod that makes this process a lot easier, plus it
tends to keep the fly higher

Peter

I've seen a very impressive video clip with a 2 handed stick meant for the
surf. But it's not to be this year. I *can* try working on a left hand cast, or
the backcast which seems to be more popular.

-- Rob

Hooked
 

Also, learn to cast with either hand

Scott

and get a two-handed rod that makes this process a lot easier, plus it
tends to keep the fly higher

Peter

I've seen a very impressive video clip with a 2 handed stick meant for the
surf. But it's not to be this year. I *can* try working on a left hand cast, or
the backcast which seems to be more popular.

-- Rob

Hooked
 

I usually use a 5-6 ft chunk of stiff mono. I also wear a
Tilly hat with a very wide brim that seems to deflect

5-6 ft was (and is) recommended for night fishing for stripers with a sinking
line. I cut back my leader, but not nearly enough and didn't think it was going
to be that much of a problem (duh!).

Thankfully, I wear glasses all the time, and also always wears a baseball cap,
both of which probably combined to deflect it enough to avoid real serious
injury.
-- so much fishing, so little time --
--please remuv the 'NOWAY2it' from my email addy to email me--

Hooked
 

I usually use a 5-6 ft chunk of stiff mono. I also wear a
Tilly hat with a very wide brim that seems to deflect

5-6 ft was (and is) recommended for night fishing for stripers with a sinking
line. I cut back my leader, but not nearly enough and didn't think it was going
to be that much of a problem (duh!).

Thankfully, I wear glasses all the time, and also always wears a baseball cap,
both of which probably combined to deflect it enough to avoid real serious
injury.
-- so much fishing, so little time --
--please remuv the 'NOWAY2it' from my email addy to email me--

Hooked
 

"GregP" wrote in message
...
On 22 Jul 2004 22:49:22 GMT, OWAY2it (-- Rob) wrote:


Thankfully, I wear glasses all the time, and also always wears a baseball
cap,
both of which probably combined to deflect it enough to avoid real
serious
injury.


I need glasses for reading only, but I had a pair made
up with plain glass and a low-cut reading bifocal on the
bottom for gray day and night fishing. I did that after the
very first time I tried to cast a 2/0 clouser.

The risk is very real......and obvious. Oddly enough, I've never known nor
even heard of anyone taking a shot to the eye, as far as I recall. Anybody
else?

Wolfgang

Hooked
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

I need glasses for reading only, but I had a pair made
up with plain glass and a low-cut reading bifocal on the
bottom for gray day and night fishing. I did that after the
very first time I tried to cast a 2/0 clouser.

The risk is very real......and obvious. Oddly enough, I've never known
nor
even heard of anyone taking a shot to the eye, as far as I recall.
Anybody
else?

Wolfgang

A couple years ago I was reading a fly fishing magazine and a sunglass
company (not sure which one) had a picture of a guy that had about a #14
Adams stuck right in the middle of his eye... It was nasty lookin' to say
the least. Makes my eyes water thinking about it. Anyway, the caption at the
bottom of the add, said "Sunglasses protect your eyes from more than just
the sun"

JT

Hooked
 

The risk is very real......and obvious. Oddly enough, I've never known nor
even heard of anyone taking a shot to the eye, as far as I recall. Anybody
else?

Wolfgang

Not direct in the eye, but my friend's dad took one right in his
eyebrow...close enough to ensure wearing eye protection from then on.

-- so much fishing, so little time --
--please remuv the 'NOWAY2it' from my email addy to email me--

Hooked
 

The risk is very real......and obvious. Oddly enough, I've never known nor
even heard of anyone taking a shot to the eye, as far as I recall. Anybody
else?

Wolfgang

Not direct in the eye, but my friend's dad took one right in his
eyebrow...close enough to ensure wearing eye protection from then on.

-- so much fishing, so little time --
--please remuv the 'NOWAY2it' from my email addy to email me--

Hooked
 

"-- Rob" wrote in message
...
The risk is very real......and obvious. Oddly enough, I've never known
nor
even heard of anyone taking a shot to the eye, as far as I recall.
Anybody
else?

Wolfgang

Not direct in the eye, but my friend's dad took one right in his
eyebrow...close enough to ensure wearing eye protection from then on.


i have fished for over thirty years with a close friend of mine, one pj
roberts, on some small streams in north carolina. we always understand that
the man who isn't fishing the hole, or the run, stands within three feet of
the fishing partner's back.

wayno

Hooked
 

"-- Rob" wrote in message
...
The risk is very real......and obvious. Oddly enough, I've never known
nor
even heard of anyone taking a shot to the eye, as far as I recall.
Anybody
else?

Wolfgang

Not direct in the eye, but my friend's dad took one right in his
eyebrow...close enough to ensure wearing eye protection from then on.


i have fished for over thirty years with a close friend of mine, one pj
roberts, on some small streams in north carolina. we always understand that
the man who isn't fishing the hole, or the run, stands within three feet of
the fishing partner's back.

wayno

Hooked
 

The risk is very real......and obvious. Oddly enough, I've never known
nor
even heard of anyone taking a shot to the eye, as far as I recall.
Anybody
else?

Hand raises slowly. Believe it or not, I took a bullet head bugger in the
eye in England. Busted a bunch of blood vessels in the right eye and looked
pretty bad for a couple of weeks. Didn't loose any vision though.

--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply

Hooked
 

The risk is very real......and obvious. Oddly enough, I've never known
nor
even heard of anyone taking a shot to the eye, as far as I recall.
Anybody
else?

Hand raises slowly. Believe it or not, I took a bullet head bugger in the
eye in England. Busted a bunch of blood vessels in the right eye and looked
pretty bad for a couple of weeks. Didn't loose any vision though.

--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply

Hooked
 

"-- Rob" wrote in message
...
I usually use a 5-6 ft chunk of stiff mono. I also wear a
Tilly hat with a very wide brim that seems to deflect

5-6 ft was (and is) recommended for night fishing for stripers with a
sinking
line. I cut back my leader, but not nearly enough and didn't think it was
going
to be that much of a problem (duh!).

Thankfully, I wear glasses all the time, and also always wears a baseball
cap,
both of which probably combined to deflect it enough to avoid real serious
injury.
-- so much fishing, so little time --
--please remuv the 'NOWAY2it' from my email addy to email me--

i always wear my sunglasses- don't trust myself. i was fishin this evenin
off the bank of one of our lakes, and was asked by a fella why i was wearing
sunglasses at dusk. i explained, to which he responded, "oh yeah, good
idea." indeed it is.

snake

Hooked
 

"-- Rob" wrote in message
...
I usually use a 5-6 ft chunk of stiff mono. I also wear a
Tilly hat with a very wide brim that seems to deflect

5-6 ft was (and is) recommended for night fishing for stripers with a
sinking
line. I cut back my leader, but not nearly enough and didn't think it was
going
to be that much of a problem (duh!).

Thankfully, I wear glasses all the time, and also always wears a baseball
cap,
both of which probably combined to deflect it enough to avoid real serious
injury.
-- so much fishing, so little time --
--please remuv the 'NOWAY2it' from my email addy to email me--

i always wear my sunglasses- don't trust myself. i was fishin this evenin
off the bank of one of our lakes, and was asked by a fella why i was wearing
sunglasses at dusk. i explained, to which he responded, "oh yeah, good
idea." indeed it is.

snake

Hooked
 

"GregP" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:09:28 -0500, "Wolfgang"
wrote:


The risk is very real......and obvious. Oddly enough, I've never known nor
even heard of anyone taking a shot to the eye, as far as I recall. Anybody
else?


I (with a bit of help from the wind) slammed a clouser into
my forehead. That's the closest I've come.

While fishin' on Price Lake, when I first started ff'in, from a canoe, I was castin '
a Clouser and had it hit me in the back of the right ear. Thankfully, I wasn't
hooked, but it was in the Fall and cold, so it was quite painful. On numerous
occasions, I have had flys come at my face, on the back cast. I always wear glasses,
cause I couldn't see otherwise. I guess bad eye-sight can be a blessin' sometimes?

Mark

Hooked
 

"GregP" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:09:28 -0500, "Wolfgang"
wrote:


The risk is very real......and obvious. Oddly enough, I've never known nor
even heard of anyone taking a shot to the eye, as far as I recall. Anybody
else?


I (with a bit of help from the wind) slammed a clouser into
my forehead. That's the closest I've come.

While fishin' on Price Lake, when I first started ff'in, from a canoe, I was castin '
a Clouser and had it hit me in the back of the right ear. Thankfully, I wasn't
hooked, but it was in the Fall and cold, so it was quite painful. On numerous
occasions, I have had flys come at my face, on the back cast. I always wear glasses,
cause I couldn't see otherwise. I guess bad eye-sight can be a blessin' sometimes?

Mark

Hooked
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

"GregP" wrote in message
...
On 22 Jul 2004 22:49:22 GMT, OWAY2it (-- Rob) wrote:


Thankfully, I wear glasses all the time, and also always wears a
baseball
cap,
both of which probably combined to deflect it enough to avoid real
serious
injury.


I need glasses for reading only, but I had a pair made
up with plain glass and a low-cut reading bifocal on the
bottom for gray day and night fishing. I did that after the
very first time I tried to cast a 2/0 clouser.

The risk is very real......and obvious. Oddly enough, I've never known
nor
even heard of anyone taking a shot to the eye, as far as I recall.
Anybody
else?

Wolfgang



no shot to the eye, but today, as a result of a cast gone awry, (couldn't
have been my fault :-}), the hook ended up in my hair. i was wearing a
baseball cap, and the fly nested in the length of hair i had pulled through
that opening in the back of my cap. glad i have long hair.....

snake

Hooked
 

Hand raises slowly. Believe it or not, I took a bullet head bugger in the
eye in England. Busted a bunch of blood vessels in the right eye and looked
pretty bad for a couple of weeks.

Frank,

You are truly my angling inspiration. Heck, I did a full Reid last year, but
off a jetty (only managed to lose my stripping basket and missed hitting my
head on one of the rocks).
Is there any angling disas..., um, adventure you have not already experienced?

-- Rob

Hooked
 

Hand raises slowly. Believe it or not, I took a bullet head bugger in the
eye in England. Busted a bunch of blood vessels in the right eye and looked
pretty bad for a couple of weeks.

Frank,

You are truly my angling inspiration. Heck, I did a full Reid last year, but
off a jetty (only managed to lose my stripping basket and missed hitting my
head on one of the rocks).
Is there any angling disas..., um, adventure you have not already experienced?

-- Rob

Hooked
 

Frank,

You are truly my angling inspiration. Heck, I did a full Reid last year, but
off a jetty (only managed to lose my stripping basket and missed hitting my
head on one of the rocks).
Is there any angling disas..., um, adventure you have not already experienced?

-- Rob

I've not dived into a current to save a 25 cent strike indicator, I've
not been joined onstream by a moose, I've not gotten caught on a rock
during a dam opening, I've not mentally scarred 10 folks by cooking
breakfast in my under bunders, hell, I've never even eaten pasties
(well, not the kind they serve in Minnisota).
--
Frank Reid
Reverse Email to reply

Hooked
 

Frank,

You are truly my angling inspiration. Heck, I did a full Reid last year, but
off a jetty (only managed to lose my stripping basket and missed hitting my
head on one of the rocks).
Is there any angling disas..., um, adventure you have not already experienced?

-- Rob

I've not dived into a current to save a 25 cent strike indicator, I've
not been joined onstream by a moose, I've not gotten caught on a rock
during a dam opening, I've not mentally scarred 10 folks by cooking
breakfast in my under bunders, hell, I've never even eaten pasties
(well, not the kind they serve in Minnisota).
--
Frank Reid
Reverse Email to reply

Hooked
 

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...
...I've not gotten caught on a rock
during a dam opening...

HEY! It wasn't a rock, it was......um......a desert island.....yeah,
that's it. Or that's the way I heard it anyway.

Wolfgang
who has also heard that the victim wasn't so much "caught" as
abandoned by false friends. :(

Hooked
 

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...
...I've not gotten caught on a rock
during a dam opening...

HEY! It wasn't a rock, it was......um......a desert island.....yeah,
that's it. Or that's the way I heard it anyway.

Wolfgang
who has also heard that the victim wasn't so much "caught" as
abandoned by false friends. :(

Hooked
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in :

It wasn't a rock, it was......

Damn you-- now I'll have "Rock Lobster" running through my head for the
rest of the week

Scott

Hooked
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in :

It wasn't a rock, it was......

Damn you-- now I'll have "Rock Lobster" running through my head for the
rest of the week

Scott

Hooked
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in :

It wasn't a rock, it was......

Damn you-- now I'll have "Rock Lobster" running through my head for the
rest of the week

Scott

Hooked
 

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, Scott Seidman wrote:

"Wolfgang" wrote in :

It wasn't a rock, it was......

Damn you-- now I'll have "Rock Lobster" running through my head for the
rest of the week

"Selling shoes, another loser, working in a shopping mall ..."
ring a bell?
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Hooked
 

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, Scott Seidman wrote:

"Wolfgang" wrote in :

It wasn't a rock, it was......

Damn you-- now I'll have "Rock Lobster" running through my head for the
rest of the week

"Selling shoes, another loser, working in a shopping mall ..."
ring a bell?
__________________________________________________ _____________________
\ Mu Young Lee
remove all dashes and underscores in reply address