Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

I was just sitting here trying to figure out why Chevy would drop their Pro
Team. When I thought about it they probably get more mileage out of
Sponsoring the tour events that they do a Pro team, I don't personally
recall to many occasions where I actually saw a Chevy Pro Team member doing
any ads in a magazine either. I do remember Bill Dance using them in his
programs.
I wonder if they will even continue to sponsor the Tour events anymore?

Perhaps this will open the door to other Truck makers to get into the
fishing scene a little heavier. Don't get me wrong one of my best tow
vehicles was a 1999 4x4 Chevy Tahoe. That thing pulled a boat like nobodies
business for the first 2 years I had it. I have since switched over to Ford
150's since a Chevy dealers auto mechanic told me the brake system wasn't
good enough to pull a boat. I laughed at first, then I noticed that he was
serious. We went round and round for a few days about it, I mean 3 sets of
warped rotors in under 6000 miles, that is problem, one towing a boat
shouldn't cause. They blamed it on the boat so I would have to pay for it.
So I showed them, I told them to terminate my lease. Drove over bought an
F-150 and offered theChevy Dealers manager a tour of my Ford when I went
over to sign the papers. They did try to get me to pay for the brake system
repair, I said tried:)

The Tahoe did a great job until the Brake System failed.

My monies on Ford right now, mine does a super job. With the new model out
they should tow even better now.

I would love to see Ford get more involved in the Tour scene, honestly I
dont know if Ford even has a pro team, I don't recall ever seeing
information about any. Dodge either for that matter. Anyone know if Ford or
Dodge does? and what is your take on Chevy dropping their team?

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com

Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

I am sorry you had a bad experience with your local Chevrolet dealership.
But the 1500 Chevrolet Silverado/GMC Sierra Pickup has been rated the #1 Tow
vehicle for the past ten years by consumers. Followed by the Ford F150,
then the Chevrolet Tahoe, Chevrolet Suburban, Ford Explorer, Ford Nav,
Toyota Tundra, . . . .

People are very passionate about their vehicles, as they are about their
boats. Their opinions are biased as to what they own. But to suddenly
start going through brakes can simply be the fault of poor workmanship
and/or poor materials used by your local dealer, or even yourself. If you
are towing up and down steep terrain with a heavy boat on a trailer that
doesn't have a braking system, or you are riding the brakes, or the traffic
pattern has changed and you are now making more sudden stops. But I
personally believe it is probably poor materials being used by the dealer to
increase their profits.

--
Craig Baugher

Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

since a Chevy dealers auto mechanic told me the brake system wasn't
good enough to pull a boat. I laughed at first, then I noticed that he was
serious. We went round and round for a few days about it, I mean 3 sets of
warped rotors in under 6000 miles, that is problem, one towing a boat
shouldn't cause.

You are right - I gotta take my Z-71 in tomorrow for its first brake job, and
it only has 73,000 miles on it. My guess is over half of them are towing my 19
foot Stratos or my 19 foot Javelin. Guess I just got a good one.



Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

Ahh-haa there is the difference. I have a 20 foot Stratos. That extra foot
got me:)

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com

"RGarri7470" wrote in message
...
since a Chevy dealers auto mechanic told me the brake system wasn't
good enough to pull a boat. I laughed at first, then I noticed that he
was
serious. We went round and round for a few days about it, I mean 3 sets
of
warped rotors in under 6000 miles, that is problem, one towing a boat
shouldn't cause.

You are right - I gotta take my Z-71 in tomorrow for its first brake job,
and
it only has 73,000 miles on it. My guess is over half of them are towing
my 19
foot Stratos or my 19 foot Javelin. Guess I just got a good one.



Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

"Chuck Coger" wrote in message
...
I was just sitting here trying to figure out why Chevy would drop their Pro
Team. When I thought about it they probably get more mileage out of
Sponsoring the tour events that they do a Pro team, I don't personally
recall to many occasions where I actually saw a Chevy Pro Team member doing
any ads in a magazine either. I do remember Bill Dance using them in his
programs.
I wonder if they will even continue to sponsor the Tour events anymore?

Perhaps this will open the door to other Truck makers to get into the
fishing scene a little heavier. Don't get me wrong one of my best tow
vehicles was a 1999 4x4 Chevy Tahoe. That thing pulled a boat like nobodies
business for the first 2 years I had it. I have since switched over to Ford
150's since a Chevy dealers auto mechanic told me the brake system wasn't
good enough to pull a boat. I laughed at first, then I noticed that he was
serious. We went round and round for a few days about it, I mean 3 sets of
warped rotors in under 6000 miles, that is problem, one towing a boat
shouldn't cause. They blamed it on the boat so I would have to pay for it.
So I showed them, I told them to terminate my lease. Drove over bought an
F-150 and offered theChevy Dealers manager a tour of my Ford when I went
over to sign the papers. They did try to get me to pay for the brake system
repair, I said tried:)

The Tahoe did a great job until the Brake System failed.

My monies on Ford right now, mine does a super job. With the new model out
they should tow even better now.

I would love to see Ford get more involved in the Tour scene, honestly I
dont know if Ford even has a pro team, I don't recall ever seeing
information about any. Dodge either for that matter. Anyone know if Ford or
Dodge does? and what is your take on Chevy dropping their team?

Hi Chuck,

Right now, I have 56,000 miles on a Chevy truck I bought just over two years ago. Way more than
half of the miles have been pulling bassboats and I'm on my original brakes.

As far as my take on Chevy dropping their team? I really don't have an opinion one way or the
other.
--
Steve
OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

Chuck- I just got a new Suburban & it's the greatest tow vehicle I can
imagine. I cant even feel my boat, even while going uphill.

Warren

"Chuck Coger" wrote in message
...
I was just sitting here trying to figure out why Chevy would drop their
Pro
Team. When I thought about it they probably get more mileage out of
Sponsoring the tour events that they do a Pro team, I don't personally
recall to many occasions where I actually saw a Chevy Pro Team member
doing
any ads in a magazine either. I do remember Bill Dance using them in his
programs.
I wonder if they will even continue to sponsor the Tour events anymore?

Perhaps this will open the door to other Truck makers to get into the
fishing scene a little heavier. Don't get me wrong one of my best tow
vehicles was a 1999 4x4 Chevy Tahoe. That thing pulled a boat like
nobodies
business for the first 2 years I had it. I have since switched over to
Ford
150's since a Chevy dealers auto mechanic told me the brake system wasn't
good enough to pull a boat. I laughed at first, then I noticed that he was
serious. We went round and round for a few days about it, I mean 3 sets of
warped rotors in under 6000 miles, that is problem, one towing a boat
shouldn't cause. They blamed it on the boat so I would have to pay for it.
So I showed them, I told them to terminate my lease. Drove over bought an
F-150 and offered theChevy Dealers manager a tour of my Ford when I went
over to sign the papers. They did try to get me to pay for the brake
system
repair, I said tried:)

The Tahoe did a great job until the Brake System failed.

My monies on Ford right now, mine does a super job. With the new model out
they should tow even better now.

I would love to see Ford get more involved in the Tour scene, honestly I
dont know if Ford even has a pro team, I don't recall ever seeing
information about any. Dodge either for that matter. Anyone know if Ford
or
Dodge does? and what is your take on Chevy dropping their team?

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com

Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

I get about 15000 mile out of the front pads on my Expedition, but I tow
into 4-8000' mountains also. On the Chevy, there was a recall on my 96
Blazer, which may have also affected the big 4x4's also. They had to
replace a switch that told the brake system that you were in 4x4 or 2x4.
Seems the system always thinks it is in 4x4 and it reduces the rear breaking
and increases the front brake pressure. Looking to replace my Expedition
with a new 4x4 diesel truck. Leaning to the Chevy 2500, but neighbor works
for Ford and may be able to get me a buyback 6L diesel for a very reasonable
price. They seem to have the bugs on the turbo progamming worked out, but
100K warrantee included.
Bill

"RGarri7470" wrote in message
...
since a Chevy dealers auto mechanic told me the brake system wasn't
good enough to pull a boat. I laughed at first, then I noticed that he
was
serious. We went round and round for a few days about it, I mean 3 sets
of
warped rotors in under 6000 miles, that is problem, one towing a boat
shouldn't cause.

You are right - I gotta take my Z-71 in tomorrow for its first brake job,
and
it only has 73,000 miles on it. My guess is over half of them are towing
my 19
foot Stratos or my 19 foot Javelin. Guess I just got a good one.



Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

"Chuck Coger" wrote in message
. ..
Ahh-haa there is the difference. I have a 20 foot Stratos. That extra foot
got me:)

And I've added a foot and a half to yours, HA! Beat that! ;-)
--
Steve
OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

That's exactly the way the Tahoe was, it was rare to feel the boat back
there even in high winds, and rarely did a passing semi blow me off the road
or suck me back into them when passing. I blew a tire in the rain, and the
boat went sideways, when I looked in the drivers side mirror I could see the
prop. I felt a little pull, when the trailer corrected, but it was a great
testament to how stable the Tahoe platform was for towing. It was a without
a doubt the best tow vehicle I have had to date. It seems that both the
Tahoe and Suburban were Chevy's best tow'ers. My wife has a Chevy 1500 that
is comparable to my F-150 and the Ford just flat out performs it in towing.

I may just start compiling opinions and facts about tow vehicles and write
some kind of piece on my findings. I have never really seen an unbiased
rating on tow vehicles, atleast one that covers all the bases.

In fact I am going to do this. How about we start a list of the most
important factors we as fisherman look for in a tow vehicle, and make a few
suggestions on which vehicles we would like to see rated. Might as well take
advantage of my unemployment and do something constructive;) I'll start a
new thread to gather the needs and wants.

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com





"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Chuck- I just got a new Suburban & it's the greatest tow vehicle I can
imagine. I cant even feel my boat, even while going uphill.

Warren

"Chuck Coger" wrote in message
...
I was just sitting here trying to figure out why Chevy would drop their
Pro
Team. When I thought about it they probably get more mileage out of
Sponsoring the tour events that they do a Pro team, I don't personally
recall to many occasions where I actually saw a Chevy Pro Team member
doing
any ads in a magazine either. I do remember Bill Dance using them in his
programs.
I wonder if they will even continue to sponsor the Tour events anymore?

Perhaps this will open the door to other Truck makers to get into the
fishing scene a little heavier. Don't get me wrong one of my best tow
vehicles was a 1999 4x4 Chevy Tahoe. That thing pulled a boat like
nobodies
business for the first 2 years I had it. I have since switched over to
Ford
150's since a Chevy dealers auto mechanic told me the brake system
wasn't
good enough to pull a boat. I laughed at first, then I noticed that he
was
serious. We went round and round for a few days about it, I mean 3 sets
of
warped rotors in under 6000 miles, that is problem, one towing a boat
shouldn't cause. They blamed it on the boat so I would have to pay for
it.
So I showed them, I told them to terminate my lease. Drove over bought
an
F-150 and offered theChevy Dealers manager a tour of my Ford when I went
over to sign the papers. They did try to get me to pay for the brake
system
repair, I said tried:)

The Tahoe did a great job until the Brake System failed.

My monies on Ford right now, mine does a super job. With the new model
out
they should tow even better now.

I would love to see Ford get more involved in the Tour scene, honestly I
dont know if Ford even has a pro team, I don't recall ever seeing
information about any. Dodge either for that matter. Anyone know if Ford
or
Dodge does? and what is your take on Chevy dropping their team?

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com

Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

I have a 2000 Chevy 1500 Z71 and put from 4-5000 miles a month on it. When
I'm home for the weekends it's usually pulling the boat or my camper. I
currently have 186,000 miles and am still on the original brakes. Had the
plugs changed for the first time at 150,000 miles. It is due for times again
though, that'll make five sets of tires but I'm not going to complain 'cause
I haven't had to do anything else to the truck.
--
Brian


"Chuck Coger" wrote in message
. ..
Ahh-haa there is the difference. I have a 20 foot Stratos. That extra foot
got me:)

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com

"RGarri7470" wrote in message
...
since a Chevy dealers auto mechanic told me the brake system wasn't
good enough to pull a boat. I laughed at first, then I noticed that he
was
serious. We went round and round for a few days about it, I mean 3 sets
of
warped rotors in under 6000 miles, that is problem, one towing a boat
shouldn't cause.

You are right - I gotta take my Z-71 in tomorrow for its first brake
job,
and
it only has 73,000 miles on it. My guess is over half of them are towing
my 19
foot Stratos or my 19 foot Javelin. Guess I just got a good one.



Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

I had a 2000 gmc 1500 with 2 sets of warped rotors and to boot, the metal
brake line was engineered too close to the rotor.
Result?
I had no brakes at all when pulling my cargo trailer. Luckily, I was able to
pull over in time...towed repaired (My $) and later sold.
I now have a GMC 2002 2500 heavy 3/4 with proper brakes. (It pulls like no
other) I have a gas hog now...put on a K & N filter and a flowmaster cat
back exaust which got me 3 or 4 mpg.
Moral: Always been a Ford guy until I looked at them side by side in
standard feature comparison.
Maybe Ford will get it right one day? (I haven't looked at 2004's yet)

"Chuck Coger" wrote in message
...
I was just sitting here trying to figure out why Chevy would drop their
Pro
Team. When I thought about it they probably get more mileage out of
Sponsoring the tour events that they do a Pro team, I don't personally
recall to many occasions where I actually saw a Chevy Pro Team member
doing
any ads in a magazine either. I do remember Bill Dance using them in his
programs.
I wonder if they will even continue to sponsor the Tour events anymore?

Perhaps this will open the door to other Truck makers to get into the
fishing scene a little heavier. Don't get me wrong one of my best tow
vehicles was a 1999 4x4 Chevy Tahoe. That thing pulled a boat like
nobodies
business for the first 2 years I had it. I have since switched over to
Ford
150's since a Chevy dealers auto mechanic told me the brake system wasn't
good enough to pull a boat. I laughed at first, then I noticed that he was
serious. We went round and round for a few days about it, I mean 3 sets of
warped rotors in under 6000 miles, that is problem, one towing a boat
shouldn't cause. They blamed it on the boat so I would have to pay for it.
So I showed them, I told them to terminate my lease. Drove over bought an
F-150 and offered theChevy Dealers manager a tour of my Ford when I went
over to sign the papers. They did try to get me to pay for the brake
system
repair, I said tried:)

The Tahoe did a great job until the Brake System failed.

My monies on Ford right now, mine does a super job. With the new model out
they should tow even better now.

I would love to see Ford get more involved in the Tour scene, honestly I
dont know if Ford even has a pro team, I don't recall ever seeing
information about any. Dodge either for that matter. Anyone know if Ford
or
Dodge does? and what is your take on Chevy dropping their team?

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com

Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

GM has also pull the Pontiacs out of NASCAR. Could this all be a cost cutting action with GM over all? Bill P.
================================================== ===============
"Chuck Coger" wrote in message ...
I was just sitting here trying to figure out why Chevy would drop their Pro
Team....

Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

I am looking at a new truck. Top of list is new 2500 ext cab duramax LT.
But neighbor works for Ford and says I can get a really good deal on a 2003
6.0L F250 buyback. They supposedly have the programming right on the turbo
now. Decisions, decisions. Anyone want to buy a 99 Expedition Eddie Baur
65k miles?
Bill

"Suthern Transplant" wrote in message
nk.net...
I had a 2000 gmc 1500 with 2 sets of warped rotors and to boot, the metal
brake line was engineered too close to the rotor.
Result?
I had no brakes at all when pulling my cargo trailer. Luckily, I was able
to
pull over in time...towed repaired (My $) and later sold.
I now have a GMC 2002 2500 heavy 3/4 with proper brakes. (It pulls like
no
other) I have a gas hog now...put on a K & N filter and a flowmaster cat
back exaust which got me 3 or 4 mpg.
Moral: Always been a Ford guy until I looked at them side by side in
standard feature comparison.
Maybe Ford will get it right one day? (I haven't looked at 2004's yet)

"Chuck Coger" wrote in message
...
I was just sitting here trying to figure out why Chevy would drop their
Pro
Team. When I thought about it they probably get more mileage out of
Sponsoring the tour events that they do a Pro team, I don't personally
recall to many occasions where I actually saw a Chevy Pro Team member
doing
any ads in a magazine either. I do remember Bill Dance using them in his
programs.
I wonder if they will even continue to sponsor the Tour events anymore?

Perhaps this will open the door to other Truck makers to get into the
fishing scene a little heavier. Don't get me wrong one of my best tow
vehicles was a 1999 4x4 Chevy Tahoe. That thing pulled a boat like
nobodies
business for the first 2 years I had it. I have since switched over to
Ford
150's since a Chevy dealers auto mechanic told me the brake system
wasn't
good enough to pull a boat. I laughed at first, then I noticed that he
was
serious. We went round and round for a few days about it, I mean 3 sets
of
warped rotors in under 6000 miles, that is problem, one towing a boat
shouldn't cause. They blamed it on the boat so I would have to pay for
it.
So I showed them, I told them to terminate my lease. Drove over bought
an
F-150 and offered theChevy Dealers manager a tour of my Ford when I went
over to sign the papers. They did try to get me to pay for the brake
system
repair, I said tried:)

The Tahoe did a great job until the Brake System failed.

My monies on Ford right now, mine does a super job. With the new model
out
they should tow even better now.

I would love to see Ford get more involved in the Tour scene, honestly I
dont know if Ford even has a pro team, I don't recall ever seeing
information about any. Dodge either for that matter. Anyone know if Ford
or
Dodge does? and what is your take on Chevy dropping their team?

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com

Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

Great idea Chuck. I can tell you that I like driving the Chevy far more
than the Expedition I just got out of. Too much play in the steering wheel
for me, I was never comfortable towing in that truck.

Warren
--
http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com http://www.secretweaponlures.com
http://warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/

"Chuck Coger" wrote in message
. ..
That's exactly the way the Tahoe was, it was rare to feel the boat back
there even in high winds, and rarely did a passing semi blow me off the
road
or suck me back into them when passing. I blew a tire in the rain, and the
boat went sideways, when I looked in the drivers side mirror I could see
the
prop. I felt a little pull, when the trailer corrected, but it was a great
testament to how stable the Tahoe platform was for towing. It was a
without
a doubt the best tow vehicle I have had to date. It seems that both the
Tahoe and Suburban were Chevy's best tow'ers. My wife has a Chevy 1500
that
is comparable to my F-150 and the Ford just flat out performs it in
towing.

I may just start compiling opinions and facts about tow vehicles and write
some kind of piece on my findings. I have never really seen an unbiased
rating on tow vehicles, atleast one that covers all the bases.

In fact I am going to do this. How about we start a list of the most
important factors we as fisherman look for in a tow vehicle, and make a
few
suggestions on which vehicles we would like to see rated. Might as well
take
advantage of my unemployment and do something constructive;) I'll start a
new thread to gather the needs and wants.

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com





"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Chuck- I just got a new Suburban & it's the greatest tow vehicle I can
imagine. I cant even feel my boat, even while going uphill.

Warren

"Chuck Coger" wrote in message
...
I was just sitting here trying to figure out why Chevy would drop
their
Pro
Team. When I thought about it they probably get more mileage out of
Sponsoring the tour events that they do a Pro team, I don't personally
recall to many occasions where I actually saw a Chevy Pro Team member
doing
any ads in a magazine either. I do remember Bill Dance using them in
his
programs.
I wonder if they will even continue to sponsor the Tour events
anymore?

Perhaps this will open the door to other Truck makers to get into the
fishing scene a little heavier. Don't get me wrong one of my best tow
vehicles was a 1999 4x4 Chevy Tahoe. That thing pulled a boat like
nobodies
business for the first 2 years I had it. I have since switched over to
Ford
150's since a Chevy dealers auto mechanic told me the brake system
wasn't
good enough to pull a boat. I laughed at first, then I noticed that he
was
serious. We went round and round for a few days about it, I mean 3
sets
of
warped rotors in under 6000 miles, that is problem, one towing a boat
shouldn't cause. They blamed it on the boat so I would have to pay for
it.
So I showed them, I told them to terminate my lease. Drove over bought
an
F-150 and offered theChevy Dealers manager a tour of my Ford when I
went
over to sign the papers. They did try to get me to pay for the brake
system
repair, I said tried:)

The Tahoe did a great job until the Brake System failed.

My monies on Ford right now, mine does a super job. With the new model
out
they should tow even better now.

I would love to see Ford get more involved in the Tour scene, honestly
I
dont know if Ford even has a pro team, I don't recall ever seeing
information about any. Dodge either for that matter. Anyone know if
Ford
or
Dodge does? and what is your take on Chevy dropping their team?

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com

Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

Well, I left Nissan about a month ago to work for a SUPER Dealer with multi
dealerships in 6 states. I represent Ford, Chevrolet, GMC, Lincoln,
Mercury, Pontiac, and Buick to mention only a few. So I see the plus and
minuses in all the models. There is not one vehicle that has THE perfect
blend of everything. But I am a diesel fan, and love fifth wheels. Both GM
and Ford have an excellent model, and both can handle the important stuff
extremely well - a 22' bass boat. Talk about over-kill, nobody needs that
much truck to haul around a boat, BUT IT SURE IS FUN!!

You boys ever need a new or certified per-owned rig, just let me know. I'll
make sure you get an Excellent Deal!, and I can have it drop shipped to your
local dealer for a courtesy delivery. Hell, if we own that dealership, I'll
fly in to deliver it myself. Email me, and we can talk.

--
Craig Baugher

Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

What price in regards to invoice?

"Craig" wrote in message
...
Well, I left Nissan about a month ago to work for a SUPER Dealer with
multi
dealerships in 6 states. I represent Ford, Chevrolet, GMC, Lincoln,
Mercury, Pontiac, and Buick to mention only a few. So I see the plus and
minuses in all the models. There is not one vehicle that has THE perfect
blend of everything. But I am a diesel fan, and love fifth wheels. Both
GM
and Ford have an excellent model, and both can handle the important stuff
extremely well - a 22' bass boat. Talk about over-kill, nobody needs that
much truck to haul around a boat, BUT IT SURE IS FUN!!

You boys ever need a new or certified per-owned rig, just let me know.
I'll
make sure you get an Excellent Deal!, and I can have it drop shipped to
your
local dealer for a courtesy delivery. Hell, if we own that dealership,
I'll
fly in to deliver it myself. Email me, and we can talk.

--
Craig Baugher

Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

I tow with a '99 Expedition. Tows fine except for the gas mileage. I tow a
4400# rig. Going to get a new Diesel pickumup. Prefer the Chevy, but
neighbor works for Ford and says I can get a really good deal on a buyback.
They supposedly have the programming on the turbo fixed.
Bill

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Great idea Chuck. I can tell you that I like driving the Chevy far more
than the Expedition I just got out of. Too much play in the steering
wheel
for me, I was never comfortable towing in that truck.

Warren
--
http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com http://www.secretweaponlures.com
http://warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/

"Chuck Coger" wrote in message
. ..
That's exactly the way the Tahoe was, it was rare to feel the boat back
there even in high winds, and rarely did a passing semi blow me off the
road
or suck me back into them when passing. I blew a tire in the rain, and
the
boat went sideways, when I looked in the drivers side mirror I could see
the
prop. I felt a little pull, when the trailer corrected, but it was a
great
testament to how stable the Tahoe platform was for towing. It was a
without
a doubt the best tow vehicle I have had to date. It seems that both the
Tahoe and Suburban were Chevy's best tow'ers. My wife has a Chevy 1500
that
is comparable to my F-150 and the Ford just flat out performs it in
towing.

I may just start compiling opinions and facts about tow vehicles and
write
some kind of piece on my findings. I have never really seen an unbiased
rating on tow vehicles, atleast one that covers all the bases.

In fact I am going to do this. How about we start a list of the most
important factors we as fisherman look for in a tow vehicle, and make a
few
suggestions on which vehicles we would like to see rated. Might as well
take
advantage of my unemployment and do something constructive;) I'll start
a
new thread to gather the needs and wants.

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com





"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Chuck- I just got a new Suburban & it's the greatest tow vehicle I can
imagine. I cant even feel my boat, even while going uphill.

Warren

"Chuck Coger" wrote in message
...
I was just sitting here trying to figure out why Chevy would drop
their
Pro
Team. When I thought about it they probably get more mileage out of
Sponsoring the tour events that they do a Pro team, I don't
personally
recall to many occasions where I actually saw a Chevy Pro Team
member
doing
any ads in a magazine either. I do remember Bill Dance using them in
his
programs.
I wonder if they will even continue to sponsor the Tour events
anymore?

Perhaps this will open the door to other Truck makers to get into
the
fishing scene a little heavier. Don't get me wrong one of my best
tow
vehicles was a 1999 4x4 Chevy Tahoe. That thing pulled a boat like
nobodies
business for the first 2 years I had it. I have since switched over
to
Ford
150's since a Chevy dealers auto mechanic told me the brake system
wasn't
good enough to pull a boat. I laughed at first, then I noticed that
he
was
serious. We went round and round for a few days about it, I mean 3
sets
of
warped rotors in under 6000 miles, that is problem, one towing a
boat
shouldn't cause. They blamed it on the boat so I would have to pay
for
it.
So I showed them, I told them to terminate my lease. Drove over
bought
an
F-150 and offered theChevy Dealers manager a tour of my Ford when I
went
over to sign the papers. They did try to get me to pay for the brake
system
repair, I said tried:)

The Tahoe did a great job until the Brake System failed.

My monies on Ford right now, mine does a super job. With the new
model
out
they should tow even better now.

I would love to see Ford get more involved in the Tour scene,
honestly
I
dont know if Ford even has a pro team, I don't recall ever seeing
information about any. Dodge either for that matter. Anyone know if
Ford
or
Dodge does? and what is your take on Chevy dropping their team?

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com

Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

Contact me by email. This is off topic. But I will put a smile on your
face!

--
Craig Baugher

Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

Bill. ask your neighbor if he has any left over "X" plans, or if he
can get one from a friend at work. If not, let me know.

--
Jerry Barton
www.jerrys-world.com

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...
I tow with a '99 Expedition. Tows fine except for the gas mileage.
I tow a
4400# rig. Going to get a new Diesel pickumup. Prefer the Chevy,
but
neighbor works for Ford and says I can get a really good deal on a
buyback.
They supposedly have the programming on the turbo fixed.
Bill

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Great idea Chuck. I can tell you that I like driving the Chevy
far more
than the Expedition I just got out of. Too much play in the
steering
wheel
for me, I was never comfortable towing in that truck.

Warren
--
http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
http://www.secretweaponlures.com
http://warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/

"Chuck Coger" wrote in message
. ..
That's exactly the way the Tahoe was, it was rare to feel the
boat back
there even in high winds, and rarely did a passing semi blow me
off the
road
or suck me back into them when passing. I blew a tire in the
rain, and
the
boat went sideways, when I looked in the drivers side mirror I
could see
the
prop. I felt a little pull, when the trailer corrected, but it
was a
great
testament to how stable the Tahoe platform was for towing. It
was a
without
a doubt the best tow vehicle I have had to date. It seems that
both the
Tahoe and Suburban were Chevy's best tow'ers. My wife has a
Chevy 1500
that
is comparable to my F-150 and the Ford just flat out performs it
in
towing.

I may just start compiling opinions and facts about tow vehicles
and
write
some kind of piece on my findings. I have never really seen an
unbiased
rating on tow vehicles, atleast one that covers all the bases.

In fact I am going to do this. How about we start a list of the
most
important factors we as fisherman look for in a tow vehicle, and
make a
few
suggestions on which vehicles we would like to see rated. Might
as well
take
advantage of my unemployment and do something constructive;)
I'll start
a
new thread to gather the needs and wants.

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com





"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Chuck- I just got a new Suburban & it's the greatest tow
vehicle I can
imagine. I cant even feel my boat, even while going uphill.

Warren

"Chuck Coger" wrote in
message
...
I was just sitting here trying to figure out why Chevy would
drop
their
Pro
Team. When I thought about it they probably get more mileage
out of
Sponsoring the tour events that they do a Pro team, I don't
personally
recall to many occasions where I actually saw a Chevy Pro
Team
member
doing
any ads in a magazine either. I do remember Bill Dance using
them in
his
programs.
I wonder if they will even continue to sponsor the Tour
events
anymore?

Perhaps this will open the door to other Truck makers to get
into
the
fishing scene a little heavier. Don't get me wrong one of my
best
tow
vehicles was a 1999 4x4 Chevy Tahoe. That thing pulled a
boat like
nobodies
business for the first 2 years I had it. I have since
switched over
to
Ford
150's since a Chevy dealers auto mechanic told me the brake
system
wasn't
good enough to pull a boat. I laughed at first, then I
noticed that
he
was
serious. We went round and round for a few days about it, I
mean 3
sets
of
warped rotors in under 6000 miles, that is problem, one
towing a
boat
shouldn't cause. They blamed it on the boat so I would have
to pay
for
it.
So I showed them, I told them to terminate my lease. Drove
over
bought
an
F-150 and offered theChevy Dealers manager a tour of my Ford
when I
went
over to sign the papers. They did try to get me to pay for
the brake
system
repair, I said tried:)

The Tahoe did a great job until the Brake System failed.

My monies on Ford right now, mine does a super job. With the
new
model
out
they should tow even better now.

I would love to see Ford get more involved in the Tour
scene,
honestly
I
dont know if Ford even has a pro team, I don't recall ever
seeing
information about any. Dodge either for that matter. Anyone
know if
Ford
or
Dodge does? and what is your take on Chevy dropping their
team?

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com

Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

Got my Expedition under the X plan. Where are you located?
As to Craig's deal, would cost a bunch to get it back to California.
Airfare there and guel back.
Bill

"Jerry "NervisRek" Barton" wrote in message
...
Bill. ask your neighbor if he has any left over "X" plans, or if he
can get one from a friend at work. If not, let me know.

--
Jerry Barton
www.jerrys-world.com

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...
I tow with a '99 Expedition. Tows fine except for the gas mileage.
I tow a
4400# rig. Going to get a new Diesel pickumup. Prefer the Chevy,
but
neighbor works for Ford and says I can get a really good deal on a
buyback.
They supposedly have the programming on the turbo fixed.
Bill

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Great idea Chuck. I can tell you that I like driving the Chevy
far more
than the Expedition I just got out of. Too much play in the
steering
wheel
for me, I was never comfortable towing in that truck.

Warren
--
http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
http://www.secretweaponlures.com
http://warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/

"Chuck Coger" wrote in message
. ..
That's exactly the way the Tahoe was, it was rare to feel the
boat back
there even in high winds, and rarely did a passing semi blow me
off the
road
or suck me back into them when passing. I blew a tire in the
rain, and
the
boat went sideways, when I looked in the drivers side mirror I
could see
the
prop. I felt a little pull, when the trailer corrected, but it
was a
great
testament to how stable the Tahoe platform was for towing. It
was a
without
a doubt the best tow vehicle I have had to date. It seems that
both the
Tahoe and Suburban were Chevy's best tow'ers. My wife has a
Chevy 1500
that
is comparable to my F-150 and the Ford just flat out performs it
in
towing.

I may just start compiling opinions and facts about tow vehicles
and
write
some kind of piece on my findings. I have never really seen an
unbiased
rating on tow vehicles, atleast one that covers all the bases.

In fact I am going to do this. How about we start a list of the
most
important factors we as fisherman look for in a tow vehicle, and
make a
few
suggestions on which vehicles we would like to see rated. Might
as well
take
advantage of my unemployment and do something constructive;)
I'll start
a
new thread to gather the needs and wants.

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com





"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Chuck- I just got a new Suburban & it's the greatest tow
vehicle I can
imagine. I cant even feel my boat, even while going uphill.

Warren

"Chuck Coger" wrote in
message
...
I was just sitting here trying to figure out why Chevy would
drop
their
Pro
Team. When I thought about it they probably get more mileage
out of
Sponsoring the tour events that they do a Pro team, I don't
personally
recall to many occasions where I actually saw a Chevy Pro
Team
member
doing
any ads in a magazine either. I do remember Bill Dance using
them in
his
programs.
I wonder if they will even continue to sponsor the Tour
events
anymore?

Perhaps this will open the door to other Truck makers to get
into
the
fishing scene a little heavier. Don't get me wrong one of my
best
tow
vehicles was a 1999 4x4 Chevy Tahoe. That thing pulled a
boat like
nobodies
business for the first 2 years I had it. I have since
switched over
to
Ford
150's since a Chevy dealers auto mechanic told me the brake
system
wasn't
good enough to pull a boat. I laughed at first, then I
noticed that
he
was
serious. We went round and round for a few days about it, I
mean 3
sets
of
warped rotors in under 6000 miles, that is problem, one
towing a
boat
shouldn't cause. They blamed it on the boat so I would have
to pay
for
it.
So I showed them, I told them to terminate my lease. Drove
over
bought
an
F-150 and offered theChevy Dealers manager a tour of my Ford
when I
went
over to sign the papers. They did try to get me to pay for
the brake
system
repair, I said tried:)

The Tahoe did a great job until the Brake System failed.

My monies on Ford right now, mine does a super job. With the
new
model
out
they should tow even better now.

I would love to see Ford get more involved in the Tour
scene,
honestly
I
dont know if Ford even has a pro team, I don't recall ever
seeing
information about any. Dodge either for that matter. Anyone
know if
Ford
or
Dodge does? and what is your take on Chevy dropping their
team?

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com

Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

You don't have to be here for me to give you an "X" plan number. Just
find your deal and contact me, then I contact Ford for the number and
call it back to you for your saleman.
--
Jerry Barton
www.jerrys-world.com

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...
Got my Expedition under the X plan. Where are you located?
As to Craig's deal, would cost a bunch to get it back to
California.
Airfare there and guel back.
Bill

"Jerry "NervisRek" Barton" wrote in
message
...
Bill. ask your neighbor if he has any left over "X" plans, or if
he
can get one from a friend at work. If not, let me know.

--
Jerry Barton
www.jerrys-world.com

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...
I tow with a '99 Expedition. Tows fine except for the gas
mileage.
I tow a
4400# rig. Going to get a new Diesel pickumup. Prefer the
Chevy,
but
neighbor works for Ford and says I can get a really good deal on
a
buyback.
They supposedly have the programming on the turbo fixed.
Bill

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Great idea Chuck. I can tell you that I like driving the
Chevy
far more
than the Expedition I just got out of. Too much play in the
steering
wheel
for me, I was never comfortable towing in that truck.

Warren
--
http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
http://www.secretweaponlures.com
http://warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/

"Chuck Coger" wrote in
message
. ..
That's exactly the way the Tahoe was, it was rare to feel
the
boat back
there even in high winds, and rarely did a passing semi blow
me
off the
road
or suck me back into them when passing. I blew a tire in the
rain, and
the
boat went sideways, when I looked in the drivers side mirror
I
could see
the
prop. I felt a little pull, when the trailer corrected, but
it
was a
great
testament to how stable the Tahoe platform was for towing.
It
was a
without
a doubt the best tow vehicle I have had to date. It seems
that
both the
Tahoe and Suburban were Chevy's best tow'ers. My wife has a
Chevy 1500
that
is comparable to my F-150 and the Ford just flat out
performs it
in
towing.

I may just start compiling opinions and facts about tow
vehicles
and
write
some kind of piece on my findings. I have never really seen
an
unbiased
rating on tow vehicles, atleast one that covers all the
bases.

In fact I am going to do this. How about we start a list of
the
most
important factors we as fisherman look for in a tow vehicle,
and
make a
few
suggestions on which vehicles we would like to see rated.
Might
as well
take
advantage of my unemployment and do something constructive;)
I'll start
a
new thread to gather the needs and wants.

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com





"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Chuck- I just got a new Suburban & it's the greatest tow
vehicle I can
imagine. I cant even feel my boat, even while going
uphill.

Warren

"Chuck Coger" wrote in
message
...
I was just sitting here trying to figure out why Chevy
would
drop
their
Pro
Team. When I thought about it they probably get more
mileage
out of
Sponsoring the tour events that they do a Pro team, I
don't
personally
recall to many occasions where I actually saw a Chevy
Pro
Team
member
doing
any ads in a magazine either. I do remember Bill Dance
using
them in
his
programs.
I wonder if they will even continue to sponsor the Tour
events
anymore?

Perhaps this will open the door to other Truck makers to
get
into
the
fishing scene a little heavier. Don't get me wrong one
of my
best
tow
vehicles was a 1999 4x4 Chevy Tahoe. That thing pulled a
boat like
nobodies
business for the first 2 years I had it. I have since
switched over
to
Ford
150's since a Chevy dealers auto mechanic told me the
brake
system
wasn't
good enough to pull a boat. I laughed at first, then I
noticed that
he
was
serious. We went round and round for a few days about
it, I
mean 3
sets
of
warped rotors in under 6000 miles, that is problem, one
towing a
boat
shouldn't cause. They blamed it on the boat so I would
have
to pay
for
it.
So I showed them, I told them to terminate my lease.
Drove
over
bought
an
F-150 and offered theChevy Dealers manager a tour of my
Ford
when I
went
over to sign the papers. They did try to get me to pay
for
the brake
system
repair, I said tried:)

The Tahoe did a great job until the Brake System failed.

My monies on Ford right now, mine does a super job. With
the
new
model
out
they should tow even better now.

I would love to see Ford get more involved in the Tour
scene,
honestly
I
dont know if Ford even has a pro team, I don't recall
ever
seeing
information about any. Dodge either for that matter.
Anyone
know if
Ford
or
Dodge does? and what is your take on Chevy dropping
their
team?

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com

Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

Oops. I thought you were the one who needed an X plan number. If it comes
to X plan cost, I will get the Chevy. I figure since the buybacks are going
to the wholesale auction sales, the price should be in the 22-24k range
Bill

"Jerry "NervisRek" Barton" wrote in message
...
You don't have to be here for me to give you an "X" plan number. Just
find your deal and contact me, then I contact Ford for the number and
call it back to you for your saleman.
--
Jerry Barton
www.jerrys-world.com

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...
Got my Expedition under the X plan. Where are you located?
As to Craig's deal, would cost a bunch to get it back to
California.
Airfare there and guel back.
Bill

"Jerry "NervisRek" Barton" wrote in
message
...
Bill. ask your neighbor if he has any left over "X" plans, or if
he
can get one from a friend at work. If not, let me know.

--
Jerry Barton
www.jerrys-world.com

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...
I tow with a '99 Expedition. Tows fine except for the gas
mileage.
I tow a
4400# rig. Going to get a new Diesel pickumup. Prefer the
Chevy,
but
neighbor works for Ford and says I can get a really good deal on
a
buyback.
They supposedly have the programming on the turbo fixed.
Bill

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Great idea Chuck. I can tell you that I like driving the
Chevy
far more
than the Expedition I just got out of. Too much play in the
steering
wheel
for me, I was never comfortable towing in that truck.

Warren
--
http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
http://www.secretweaponlures.com
http://warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/

"Chuck Coger" wrote in
message
. ..
That's exactly the way the Tahoe was, it was rare to feel
the
boat back
there even in high winds, and rarely did a passing semi blow
me
off the
road
or suck me back into them when passing. I blew a tire in the
rain, and
the
boat went sideways, when I looked in the drivers side mirror
I
could see
the
prop. I felt a little pull, when the trailer corrected, but
it
was a
great
testament to how stable the Tahoe platform was for towing.
It
was a
without
a doubt the best tow vehicle I have had to date. It seems
that
both the
Tahoe and Suburban were Chevy's best tow'ers. My wife has a
Chevy 1500
that
is comparable to my F-150 and the Ford just flat out
performs it
in
towing.

I may just start compiling opinions and facts about tow
vehicles
and
write
some kind of piece on my findings. I have never really seen
an
unbiased
rating on tow vehicles, atleast one that covers all the
bases.

In fact I am going to do this. How about we start a list of
the
most
important factors we as fisherman look for in a tow vehicle,
and
make a
few
suggestions on which vehicles we would like to see rated.
Might
as well
take
advantage of my unemployment and do something constructive;)
I'll start
a
new thread to gather the needs and wants.

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com





"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Chuck- I just got a new Suburban & it's the greatest tow
vehicle I can
imagine. I cant even feel my boat, even while going
uphill.

Warren

"Chuck Coger" wrote in
message
...
I was just sitting here trying to figure out why Chevy
would
drop
their
Pro
Team. When I thought about it they probably get more
mileage
out of
Sponsoring the tour events that they do a Pro team, I
don't
personally
recall to many occasions where I actually saw a Chevy
Pro
Team
member
doing
any ads in a magazine either. I do remember Bill Dance
using
them in
his
programs.
I wonder if they will even continue to sponsor the Tour
events
anymore?

Perhaps this will open the door to other Truck makers to
get
into
the
fishing scene a little heavier. Don't get me wrong one
of my
best
tow
vehicles was a 1999 4x4 Chevy Tahoe. That thing pulled a
boat like
nobodies
business for the first 2 years I had it. I have since
switched over
to
Ford
150's since a Chevy dealers auto mechanic told me the
brake
system
wasn't
good enough to pull a boat. I laughed at first, then I
noticed that
he
was
serious. We went round and round for a few days about
it, I
mean 3
sets
of
warped rotors in under 6000 miles, that is problem, one
towing a
boat
shouldn't cause. They blamed it on the boat so I would
have
to pay
for
it.
So I showed them, I told them to terminate my lease.
Drove
over
bought
an
F-150 and offered theChevy Dealers manager a tour of my
Ford
when I
went
over to sign the papers. They did try to get me to pay
for
the brake
system
repair, I said tried:)

The Tahoe did a great job until the Brake System failed.

My monies on Ford right now, mine does a super job. With
the
new
model
out
they should tow even better now.

I would love to see Ford get more involved in the Tour
scene,
honestly
I
dont know if Ford even has a pro team, I don't recall
ever
seeing
information about any. Dodge either for that matter.
Anyone
know if
Ford
or
Dodge does? and what is your take on Chevy dropping
their
team?

---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com

Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

Yea, he MADE me do all the driving while he was napping. G Bill P.
================================================== =========

"go-bassn" wrote in message ...
I was never comfortable towing in that truck.

Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

"Calif Bill" wrote

I am looking at a new truck. Top of list is new 2500 ext cab duramax LT.

Go for it! The Duramax/Allison combination is pure magic, and the LT
trim level blows away the F*rd for comfort and luxury.

73, de Hans

Best Tow Vehicles/Chevy Pro Team
 

"Hans K0HB" wrote in message
om...
"Calif Bill" wrote

I am looking at a new truck. Top of list is new 2500 ext cab duramax
LT.

Go for it! The Duramax/Allison combination is pure magic, and the LT
trim level blows away the F*rd for comfort and luxury.

73, de Hans

Only thing holding me up is my neighbor. He works for Ford and they bought
back a bunch of the 2003 6.0L diesels and the turbo programming was wrong.
Supposedly fixed. Figure I can maybe score one for 22-24K. A worthwhile
saving over the $40k I will pay for the Duramax.
Bill