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snakefiddler July 30th, 2004 02:24 AM

what did i do wrong?
 
hit the waters of one of appalachia's treasures- the new river- this (early)
evenin. other than a brief encounter involving an invitation to join some
fellas who were headin down the river in canoes to do a little fishin, i was
had the stream all to myself.
i had been fishing there last week, with a woman that my instructor hooked
me up with, so i hit the spots that she had success with in the past. i
only had about an hour to spend in the water, as i had a friend coming in
from out of town for to spend the evening. so, in i went. i hit the "hot
spots" first, where i got a little action, but nothing significant. after
about a half an hour, i noticed that the fish were jumpin out of the water
one after another just upstream a little bit, so naturally i headed up to
stalk them. when the fly i had tied seemed to have worn out it's welcome, i
put on a sulfur. i thought that with all this activiy, i would surely hook
one. instead i spent the next half an hour frustrated as i watched fish
after fish come out of the water to feed, but only got a couple of strikes.
i keep thinking that if i had been able to stay longer, i would have gotten
something, but i can't help but wonder what i was doing wrong. maybe just
not picking out the right fly? i know it's hard to say without being there,
but any ideas? i don't think i spooked them, because they didn't go
anywhere. they just continued to taunt me :-(
help- snake



Peter Charles July 30th, 2004 02:32 AM

what did i do wrong?
 
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:24:44 -0400, "snakefiddler"
wrote:

hit the waters of one of appalachia's treasures- the new river- this (early)
evenin. other than a brief encounter involving an invitation to join some
fellas who were headin down the river in canoes to do a little fishin, i was
had the stream all to myself.
i had been fishing there last week, with a woman that my instructor hooked
me up with, so i hit the spots that she had success with in the past. i
only had about an hour to spend in the water, as i had a friend coming in
from out of town for to spend the evening. so, in i went. i hit the "hot
spots" first, where i got a little action, but nothing significant. after
about a half an hour, i noticed that the fish were jumpin out of the water
one after another just upstream a little bit, so naturally i headed up to
stalk them. when the fly i had tied seemed to have worn out it's welcome, i
put on a sulfur. i thought that with all this activiy, i would surely hook
one. instead i spent the next half an hour frustrated as i watched fish
after fish come out of the water to feed, but only got a couple of strikes.
i keep thinking that if i had been able to stay longer, i would have gotten
something, but i can't help but wonder what i was doing wrong. maybe just
not picking out the right fly? i know it's hard to say without being there,
but any ideas? i don't think i spooked them, because they didn't go
anywhere. they just continued to taunt me :-(
help- snake



caddis emergers - jumping fish usually means caddis emergers

Some caddis emergers rise to the surface very quickly and pop on
reaching the surface. The fish have to hit them quick or they're
gone.

Peter

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Peter Charles July 30th, 2004 02:32 AM

what did i do wrong?
 
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:24:44 -0400, "snakefiddler"
wrote:

hit the waters of one of appalachia's treasures- the new river- this (early)
evenin. other than a brief encounter involving an invitation to join some
fellas who were headin down the river in canoes to do a little fishin, i was
had the stream all to myself.
i had been fishing there last week, with a woman that my instructor hooked
me up with, so i hit the spots that she had success with in the past. i
only had about an hour to spend in the water, as i had a friend coming in
from out of town for to spend the evening. so, in i went. i hit the "hot
spots" first, where i got a little action, but nothing significant. after
about a half an hour, i noticed that the fish were jumpin out of the water
one after another just upstream a little bit, so naturally i headed up to
stalk them. when the fly i had tied seemed to have worn out it's welcome, i
put on a sulfur. i thought that with all this activiy, i would surely hook
one. instead i spent the next half an hour frustrated as i watched fish
after fish come out of the water to feed, but only got a couple of strikes.
i keep thinking that if i had been able to stay longer, i would have gotten
something, but i can't help but wonder what i was doing wrong. maybe just
not picking out the right fly? i know it's hard to say without being there,
but any ideas? i don't think i spooked them, because they didn't go
anywhere. they just continued to taunt me :-(
help- snake



caddis emergers - jumping fish usually means caddis emergers

Some caddis emergers rise to the surface very quickly and pop on
reaching the surface. The fish have to hit them quick or they're
gone.

Peter

turn mailhot into hotmail to reply

Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharl...ers/index.html

Chas Wade July 30th, 2004 08:18 AM

what did i do wrong?
 
Peter Charles wrote:

caddis emergers - jumping fish usually means caddis emergers

Some caddis emergers rise to the surface very quickly and pop on
reaching the surface. The fish have to hit them quick or they're
gone.


Good call. I've seen the same thing with some of the larger
chironamids.

Chas
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Chas Wade July 30th, 2004 08:18 AM

what did i do wrong?
 
Peter Charles wrote:

caddis emergers - jumping fish usually means caddis emergers

Some caddis emergers rise to the surface very quickly and pop on
reaching the surface. The fish have to hit them quick or they're
gone.


Good call. I've seen the same thing with some of the larger
chironamids.

Chas
remove fly fish to reply
http://home.comcast.net/~chas.wade/w...ome.html-.html
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http://home.comcast.net/~chasepike/wsb/index.html



Mark Bowen July 30th, 2004 10:09 AM

what did i do wrong?
 

"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
hit the waters of one of appalachia's treasures- the new river- this (early)
evenin. other than a brief encounter involving an invitation to join some
fellas who were headin down the river in canoes to do a little fishin, i was
had the stream all to myself.
i had been fishing there last week, with a woman that my instructor hooked
me up with, so i hit the spots that she had success with in the past. i
only had about an hour to spend in the water, as i had a friend coming in
from out of town for to spend the evening. so, in i went. i hit the "hot
spots" first, where i got a little action, but nothing significant. after
about a half an hour, i noticed that the fish were jumpin out of the water
one after another just upstream a little bit, so naturally i headed up to
stalk them. when the fly i had tied seemed to have worn out it's welcome, i
put on a sulfur. i thought that with all this activiy, i would surely hook
one. instead i spent the next half an hour frustrated as i watched fish
after fish come out of the water to feed, but only got a couple of strikes.
i keep thinking that if i had been able to stay longer, i would have gotten
something, but i can't help but wonder what i was doing wrong. maybe just
not picking out the right fly? i know it's hard to say without being there,
but any ideas? i don't think i spooked them, because they didn't go
anywhere. they just continued to taunt me :-(
help- snake



Are you certain that the fish were trout? Then New isn't really know for it's trout,
but is known for it's smallies.

The fish you saw jumpin' out of the water may have been bait fleeing smallies.

Mark


Mark Bowen July 30th, 2004 10:09 AM

what did i do wrong?
 

"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
hit the waters of one of appalachia's treasures- the new river- this (early)
evenin. other than a brief encounter involving an invitation to join some
fellas who were headin down the river in canoes to do a little fishin, i was
had the stream all to myself.
i had been fishing there last week, with a woman that my instructor hooked
me up with, so i hit the spots that she had success with in the past. i
only had about an hour to spend in the water, as i had a friend coming in
from out of town for to spend the evening. so, in i went. i hit the "hot
spots" first, where i got a little action, but nothing significant. after
about a half an hour, i noticed that the fish were jumpin out of the water
one after another just upstream a little bit, so naturally i headed up to
stalk them. when the fly i had tied seemed to have worn out it's welcome, i
put on a sulfur. i thought that with all this activiy, i would surely hook
one. instead i spent the next half an hour frustrated as i watched fish
after fish come out of the water to feed, but only got a couple of strikes.
i keep thinking that if i had been able to stay longer, i would have gotten
something, but i can't help but wonder what i was doing wrong. maybe just
not picking out the right fly? i know it's hard to say without being there,
but any ideas? i don't think i spooked them, because they didn't go
anywhere. they just continued to taunt me :-(
help- snake



Are you certain that the fish were trout? Then New isn't really know for it's trout,
but is known for it's smallies.

The fish you saw jumpin' out of the water may have been bait fleeing smallies.

Mark


snakefiddler July 30th, 2004 11:55 AM

what did i do wrong?
 

"Mark Bowen" wrote in message
...

"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
hit the waters of one of appalachia's treasures- the new river- this

(early)
evenin. other than a brief encounter involving an invitation to join

some
fellas who were headin down the river in canoes to do a little fishin, i

was
had the stream all to myself.
i had been fishing there last week, with a woman that my instructor

hooked
me up with, so i hit the spots that she had success with in the past. i
only had about an hour to spend in the water, as i had a friend coming

in
from out of town for to spend the evening. so, in i went. i hit the

"hot
spots" first, where i got a little action, but nothing significant.

after
about a half an hour, i noticed that the fish were jumpin out of the

water
one after another just upstream a little bit, so naturally i headed up

to
stalk them. when the fly i had tied seemed to have worn out it's

welcome, i
put on a sulfur. i thought that with all this activiy, i would surely

hook
one. instead i spent the next half an hour frustrated as i watched

fish
after fish come out of the water to feed, but only got a couple of

strikes.
i keep thinking that if i had been able to stay longer, i would have

gotten
something, but i can't help but wonder what i was doing wrong. maybe

just
not picking out the right fly? i know it's hard to say without being

there,
but any ideas? i don't think i spooked them, because they didn't go
anywhere. they just continued to taunt me :-(
help- snake



Are you certain that the fish were trout? Then New isn't really know for

it's trout,
but is known for it's smallies.

The fish you saw jumpin' out of the water may have been bait fleeing

smallies.

i don't know what they were for sure- never got a good enough lookat them.
i will say, however, that i could see them while they were under the water
sometimes and they *flashed* silver when they moved around under there.
if they were smallies, as you suggest might be the case, what kind of fly do
you suggest i use? i am going back out there this evening, if it isn't
raining too badly-doesn't look too good out there right now. ya wanna hit
the water with me? anyway, with any kind of luck, i'll be able to tell you
for sure what's in there.

Mark




snakefiddler July 30th, 2004 11:55 AM

what did i do wrong?
 

"Mark Bowen" wrote in message
...

"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
hit the waters of one of appalachia's treasures- the new river- this

(early)
evenin. other than a brief encounter involving an invitation to join

some
fellas who were headin down the river in canoes to do a little fishin, i

was
had the stream all to myself.
i had been fishing there last week, with a woman that my instructor

hooked
me up with, so i hit the spots that she had success with in the past. i
only had about an hour to spend in the water, as i had a friend coming

in
from out of town for to spend the evening. so, in i went. i hit the

"hot
spots" first, where i got a little action, but nothing significant.

after
about a half an hour, i noticed that the fish were jumpin out of the

water
one after another just upstream a little bit, so naturally i headed up

to
stalk them. when the fly i had tied seemed to have worn out it's

welcome, i
put on a sulfur. i thought that with all this activiy, i would surely

hook
one. instead i spent the next half an hour frustrated as i watched

fish
after fish come out of the water to feed, but only got a couple of

strikes.
i keep thinking that if i had been able to stay longer, i would have

gotten
something, but i can't help but wonder what i was doing wrong. maybe

just
not picking out the right fly? i know it's hard to say without being

there,
but any ideas? i don't think i spooked them, because they didn't go
anywhere. they just continued to taunt me :-(
help- snake



Are you certain that the fish were trout? Then New isn't really know for

it's trout,
but is known for it's smallies.

The fish you saw jumpin' out of the water may have been bait fleeing

smallies.

i don't know what they were for sure- never got a good enough lookat them.
i will say, however, that i could see them while they were under the water
sometimes and they *flashed* silver when they moved around under there.
if they were smallies, as you suggest might be the case, what kind of fly do
you suggest i use? i am going back out there this evening, if it isn't
raining too badly-doesn't look too good out there right now. ya wanna hit
the water with me? anyway, with any kind of luck, i'll be able to tell you
for sure what's in there.

Mark




snakefiddler July 30th, 2004 12:29 PM

what did i do wrong?
 

"Chas Wade" wrote in message
news:eDmOc.184149$IQ4.84776@attbi_s02...
Peter Charles wrote:

caddis emergers - jumping fish usually means caddis emergers

Some caddis emergers rise to the surface very quickly and pop on
reaching the surface. The fish have to hit them quick or they're
gone.


Good call. I've seen the same thing with some of the larger
chironamids.

Chas

thanks guys-
i'll try an emerger when i go out there tonight...

snake
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snakefiddler July 30th, 2004 12:29 PM

what did i do wrong?
 

"Chas Wade" wrote in message
news:eDmOc.184149$IQ4.84776@attbi_s02...
Peter Charles wrote:

caddis emergers - jumping fish usually means caddis emergers

Some caddis emergers rise to the surface very quickly and pop on
reaching the surface. The fish have to hit them quick or they're
gone.


Good call. I've seen the same thing with some of the larger
chironamids.

Chas

thanks guys-
i'll try an emerger when i go out there tonight...

snake
remove fly fish to reply
http://home.comcast.net/~chas.wade/w...ome.html-.html
San Juan Pictures at:
http://home.comcast.net/~chasepike/wsb/index.html





Frank Church July 30th, 2004 01:38 PM

what did i do wrong?
 
"snakefiddler" wrote in
:


"Mark Bowen" wrote in message
...

"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
hit the waters of one of appalachia's treasures- the new river-
this

(early)
evenin. other than a brief encounter involving an invitation to
join

some
fellas who were headin down the river in canoes to do a little
fishin, i

was
had the stream all to myself.
i had been fishing there last week, with a woman that my instructor

hooked
me up with, so i hit the spots that she had success with in the
past. i only had about an hour to spend in the water, as i had a
friend coming

in
from out of town for to spend the evening. so, in i went. i hit
the

"hot
spots" first, where i got a little action, but nothing significant.

after
about a half an hour, i noticed that the fish were jumpin out of
the

water
one after another just upstream a little bit, so naturally i headed
up

to
stalk them. when the fly i had tied seemed to have worn out it's

welcome, i
put on a sulfur. i thought that with all this activiy, i would
surely

hook
one. instead i spent the next half an hour frustrated as i
watched

fish
after fish come out of the water to feed, but only got a couple of

strikes.
i keep thinking that if i had been able to stay longer, i would
have

gotten
something, but i can't help but wonder what i was doing wrong.
maybe

just
not picking out the right fly? i know it's hard to say without
being

there,
but any ideas? i don't think i spooked them, because they didn't
go anywhere. they just continued to taunt me :-(
help- snake



Are you certain that the fish were trout? Then New isn't really know
for

it's trout,
but is known for it's smallies.

The fish you saw jumpin' out of the water may have been bait fleeing

smallies.


Hey Snake, Mark is right on, those were minnies fleeing those hungry
smallies. Tie on that chartruese slider I gave you, then cast upstream at
about a 45 degree angle and let it drift down till it starts to drag,
then recast back up again. Smallies love that Sneaky Pete. Also, if the
water depth allows, wade out and cast back into the bank, especially
around structure, stumps, downed trees, etc. Also, cast to any exposed
rock out in the river, expect a strike on the down current side of it.
I'd love to see you tie into a nice smallmouth, you'll be hooked for
life.

Frank Sr.
...your kpos will do just fine :-)

Frank Church July 30th, 2004 01:38 PM

what did i do wrong?
 
"snakefiddler" wrote in
:


"Mark Bowen" wrote in message
...

"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
hit the waters of one of appalachia's treasures- the new river-
this

(early)
evenin. other than a brief encounter involving an invitation to
join

some
fellas who were headin down the river in canoes to do a little
fishin, i

was
had the stream all to myself.
i had been fishing there last week, with a woman that my instructor

hooked
me up with, so i hit the spots that she had success with in the
past. i only had about an hour to spend in the water, as i had a
friend coming

in
from out of town for to spend the evening. so, in i went. i hit
the

"hot
spots" first, where i got a little action, but nothing significant.

after
about a half an hour, i noticed that the fish were jumpin out of
the

water
one after another just upstream a little bit, so naturally i headed
up

to
stalk them. when the fly i had tied seemed to have worn out it's

welcome, i
put on a sulfur. i thought that with all this activiy, i would
surely

hook
one. instead i spent the next half an hour frustrated as i
watched

fish
after fish come out of the water to feed, but only got a couple of

strikes.
i keep thinking that if i had been able to stay longer, i would
have

gotten
something, but i can't help but wonder what i was doing wrong.
maybe

just
not picking out the right fly? i know it's hard to say without
being

there,
but any ideas? i don't think i spooked them, because they didn't
go anywhere. they just continued to taunt me :-(
help- snake



Are you certain that the fish were trout? Then New isn't really know
for

it's trout,
but is known for it's smallies.

The fish you saw jumpin' out of the water may have been bait fleeing

smallies.


Hey Snake, Mark is right on, those were minnies fleeing those hungry
smallies. Tie on that chartruese slider I gave you, then cast upstream at
about a 45 degree angle and let it drift down till it starts to drag,
then recast back up again. Smallies love that Sneaky Pete. Also, if the
water depth allows, wade out and cast back into the bank, especially
around structure, stumps, downed trees, etc. Also, cast to any exposed
rock out in the river, expect a strike on the down current side of it.
I'd love to see you tie into a nice smallmouth, you'll be hooked for
life.

Frank Sr.
...your kpos will do just fine :-)

snakefiddler July 30th, 2004 05:44 PM

what did i do wrong?
 

"Frank Church" wrote in message
9.11...
"snakefiddler" wrote in
:


"Mark Bowen" wrote in message
...

"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
hit the waters of one of appalachia's treasures- the new river-
this

(early)
evenin. other than a brief encounter involving an invitation to
join

some
fellas who were headin down the river in canoes to do a little
fishin, i

was
had the stream all to myself.
i had been fishing there last week, with a woman that my instructor

hooked
me up with, so i hit the spots that she had success with in the
past. i only had about an hour to spend in the water, as i had a
friend coming

in
from out of town for to spend the evening. so, in i went. i hit
the

"hot
spots" first, where i got a little action, but nothing significant.

after
about a half an hour, i noticed that the fish were jumpin out of
the

water
one after another just upstream a little bit, so naturally i headed
up

to
stalk them. when the fly i had tied seemed to have worn out it's

welcome, i
put on a sulfur. i thought that with all this activiy, i would
surely

hook
one. instead i spent the next half an hour frustrated as i
watched

fish
after fish come out of the water to feed, but only got a couple of

strikes.
i keep thinking that if i had been able to stay longer, i would
have

gotten
something, but i can't help but wonder what i was doing wrong.
maybe

just
not picking out the right fly? i know it's hard to say without
being

there,
but any ideas? i don't think i spooked them, because they didn't
go anywhere. they just continued to taunt me :-(
help- snake


Are you certain that the fish were trout? Then New isn't really know
for

it's trout,
but is known for it's smallies.

The fish you saw jumpin' out of the water may have been bait fleeing

smallies.


Hey Snake, Mark is right on, those were minnies fleeing those hungry
smallies. Tie on that chartruese slider I gave you,




hi frank-

just took out my box- got it......



then cast upstream at
about a 45 degree angle and let it drift down till it starts to drag,
then recast back up again. Smallies love that Sneaky Pete. Also, if the
water depth allows, wade out and cast back into the bank, especially
around structure, stumps, downed trees, etc.


perfect description of that part of the stream....
you been spyin on me? G



Also, cast to any exposed
rock out in the river, expect a strike on the down current side of it.
I'd love to see you tie into a nice smallmouth, you'll be hooked for
life.



i *thought* (knowing how much you like to fish for small mouth), i might
hear from *you* when mark said those are probably smallies in there ;-)
i'm kind of excited about the prospect of getting one; i'd like a first hand
experience of your description of bringing it in.
while i was at work in the library this a.m., i looked up a picture , so
that i will recognize it should i be so lucky.


Frank Sr.
..your kpos will do just fine :-)


LOL i reckon it has served me well thus far, and it will continue to do
so......

thanks for all the advice- i'll try it tonight, if i don't get rained out
:-(
i'll letchya know how it goes-
snake

p.s. will you re-send your address, so i can get those c.d.s out to you?
thanks



snakefiddler July 30th, 2004 05:44 PM

what did i do wrong?
 

"Frank Church" wrote in message
9.11...
"snakefiddler" wrote in
:


"Mark Bowen" wrote in message
...

"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
hit the waters of one of appalachia's treasures- the new river-
this

(early)
evenin. other than a brief encounter involving an invitation to
join

some
fellas who were headin down the river in canoes to do a little
fishin, i

was
had the stream all to myself.
i had been fishing there last week, with a woman that my instructor

hooked
me up with, so i hit the spots that she had success with in the
past. i only had about an hour to spend in the water, as i had a
friend coming

in
from out of town for to spend the evening. so, in i went. i hit
the

"hot
spots" first, where i got a little action, but nothing significant.

after
about a half an hour, i noticed that the fish were jumpin out of
the

water
one after another just upstream a little bit, so naturally i headed
up

to
stalk them. when the fly i had tied seemed to have worn out it's

welcome, i
put on a sulfur. i thought that with all this activiy, i would
surely

hook
one. instead i spent the next half an hour frustrated as i
watched

fish
after fish come out of the water to feed, but only got a couple of

strikes.
i keep thinking that if i had been able to stay longer, i would
have

gotten
something, but i can't help but wonder what i was doing wrong.
maybe

just
not picking out the right fly? i know it's hard to say without
being

there,
but any ideas? i don't think i spooked them, because they didn't
go anywhere. they just continued to taunt me :-(
help- snake


Are you certain that the fish were trout? Then New isn't really know
for

it's trout,
but is known for it's smallies.

The fish you saw jumpin' out of the water may have been bait fleeing

smallies.


Hey Snake, Mark is right on, those were minnies fleeing those hungry
smallies. Tie on that chartruese slider I gave you,




hi frank-

just took out my box- got it......



then cast upstream at
about a 45 degree angle and let it drift down till it starts to drag,
then recast back up again. Smallies love that Sneaky Pete. Also, if the
water depth allows, wade out and cast back into the bank, especially
around structure, stumps, downed trees, etc.


perfect description of that part of the stream....
you been spyin on me? G



Also, cast to any exposed
rock out in the river, expect a strike on the down current side of it.
I'd love to see you tie into a nice smallmouth, you'll be hooked for
life.



i *thought* (knowing how much you like to fish for small mouth), i might
hear from *you* when mark said those are probably smallies in there ;-)
i'm kind of excited about the prospect of getting one; i'd like a first hand
experience of your description of bringing it in.
while i was at work in the library this a.m., i looked up a picture , so
that i will recognize it should i be so lucky.


Frank Sr.
..your kpos will do just fine :-)


LOL i reckon it has served me well thus far, and it will continue to do
so......

thanks for all the advice- i'll try it tonight, if i don't get rained out
:-(
i'll letchya know how it goes-
snake

p.s. will you re-send your address, so i can get those c.d.s out to you?
thanks



asadi.... July 30th, 2004 10:45 PM

what did i do wrong?
 

"snakefiddler"
i'll try an emerger when i go out there tonight...



Too late. It's over. Whatever it was. Just keep all these things in mind the
next time you see that happening.

john.... ever a day late and a dollar short.




asadi.... July 30th, 2004 10:45 PM

what did i do wrong?
 

"snakefiddler"
i'll try an emerger when i go out there tonight...



Too late. It's over. Whatever it was. Just keep all these things in mind the
next time you see that happening.

john.... ever a day late and a dollar short.




snakefiddler July 31st, 2004 02:38 AM

what did i do wrong?
 

"asadi...." wrote in message
ink.net...

"snakefiddler"
i'll try an emerger when i go out there tonight...



Too late. It's over. Whatever it was. Just keep all these things in mind

the
next time you see that happening.


will do
thanks



john.... ever a day late and a dollar short.


you're not alone ;-)

snake







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