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I've apparently misspoke about the dates. I'll arrive late Friday
night, Sept 3, or more likely around noon Saturday Sept 4. As you
drive in to Many Glacier, watch for my car, Merceded ML320 gray, 552LVJ
Washington. If you see it parked along the lake, we're down there
fishing.

Warren is bringing the ROFF banner, so that should help identify clave
central.

I'll be leaving Thursday Sept 9 to drive home.

The list so far is:

Chas, Andy, and Glen Wade
Warren Findley
George Miller
Mark Tinksy (with Warren)
John Hightower (If he can break free)
Kevin Vang (Not! and we'll miss you)

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I'm hoping to head up Friday afternoon/evening- probably tent camping. I
still don't know if Linda is comming- she recently had carpal tunnel surgery
and they have not established her return to work schedule. She thought that
labor day weekend would likely be her first weekend back to work. I'll have
to head back Monday the 6th.

jh

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I've apparently misspoke about the dates. I'll arrive late Friday
night, Sept 3, or more likely around noon Saturday Sept 4. As you
drive in to Many Glacier, watch for my car, Merceded ML320 gray, 552LVJ
Washington. If you see it parked along the lake, we're down there
fishing.

Warren is bringing the ROFF banner, so that should help identify clave
central.

I'll be leaving Thursday Sept 9 to drive home.

The list so far is:

Chas, Andy, and Glen Wade
Warren Findley
George Miller
Mark Tinksy (with Warren)
John Hightower (If he can break free)
Kevin Vang (Not! and we'll miss you)

Chas
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I'm hoping to head up Friday afternoon/evening- probably tent camping. I
still don't know if Linda is comming- she recently had carpal tunnel surgery
and they have not established her return to work schedule. She thought that
labor day weekend would likely be her first weekend back to work. I'll have
to head back Monday the 6th.

jh

"Chas Wade" wrote in message
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I've apparently misspoke about the dates. I'll arrive late Friday
night, Sept 3, or more likely around noon Saturday Sept 4. As you
drive in to Many Glacier, watch for my car, Merceded ML320 gray, 552LVJ
Washington. If you see it parked along the lake, we're down there
fishing.

Warren is bringing the ROFF banner, so that should help identify clave
central.

I'll be leaving Thursday Sept 9 to drive home.

The list so far is:

Chas, Andy, and Glen Wade
Warren Findley
George Miller
Mark Tinksy (with Warren)
John Hightower (If he can break free)
Kevin Vang (Not! and we'll miss you)

Chas
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"John Hightower" wrote:
I'm hoping to head up Friday afternoon/evening- probably tent camping.
I
still don't know if Linda is comming- she recently had carpal tunnel
surgery
and they have not established her return to work schedule. She
thought that
labor day weekend would likely be her first weekend back to work.
I'll have
to head back Monday the 6th.

jh

Good to hear you're coming John. Meg had the Carpal tunnel surgery
Friday, and is doing well. She wasn't planning on coming, so that
won't be an issue for her.

I hope all went well for Linda.

Chas

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"John Hightower" wrote:
I'm hoping to head up Friday afternoon/evening- probably tent camping.
I
still don't know if Linda is comming- she recently had carpal tunnel
surgery
and they have not established her return to work schedule. She
thought that
labor day weekend would likely be her first weekend back to work.
I'll have
to head back Monday the 6th.

jh

Good to hear you're coming John. Meg had the Carpal tunnel surgery
Friday, and is doing well. She wasn't planning on coming, so that
won't be an issue for her.

I hope all went well for Linda.

Chas

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"John Hightower" wrote:
I'm hoping to head up Friday afternoon/evening- probably tent camping.
I
still don't know if Linda is comming- she recently had carpal tunnel
surgery
and they have not established her return to work schedule. She
thought that
labor day weekend would likely be her first weekend back to work.
I'll have
to head back Monday the 6th.

jh

Good to hear you're coming John. Meg had the Carpal tunnel surgery
Friday, and is doing well. She wasn't planning on coming, so that
won't be an issue for her.

I hope all went well for Linda.

Chas

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t...
wrote...
I'm hoping to head up Friday afternoon/evening- probably tent camping.
I
still don't know if Linda is comming- she recently had carpal tunnel
surgery
and they have not established her return to work schedule. She thought
that
labor day weekend would likely be her first weekend back to work. I'll
have
to head back Monday the 6th.

While I look forward to seeing you again, please be prepared for my
questions regarding the surgery that your wife went under. I need both
wrists done and am putting it off due to some of the horror stories I
have heard..... :-(
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt at earth(nospam)link dot net to reply via email)

Linda had her right wrist done. outpatient surgery- went in about 10:30- I
took her home at about 4:30. She has some pain- but not enough to use any
of the percocet they "gave" her. They are waffling about how long she will
be off work- 4 weeks to 6 weeks. It's been about 2 now, and she really has
no strength in her thumb- so I've been kind of helping out, dishes,
yardwork, etc- hey! wait a minute!

She does tend to overdo it so it is hurting at the end of the day.

We have lots of ironworkers that get it done- mostly people that tie rebar
for a living- I'm not aware of anyone having trouble with the surgery. The
only horror story I know is the ironworker who refused to have the surgery
and clipped my work comp for $300,000.00 and permanent disability :-(

jh

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Warren wrote in message et...

While I look forward to seeing you again, please be prepared for my
questions regarding the surgery that your wife went under. I need both
wrists done and am putting it off due to some of the horror stories I
have heard..... :-(

Don't know how bad off you are and I'm no medical doc but it might be
controllable/reversible.

I was in pretty bad pain while finishing my phd, using pads, wrist
splints, anything I could to try to help. Nothing did...until I did
the following:

1. Change the way I typed. Holding wrists up in the air and having
hands level with my arms was VERY important. Your CT might be from
some other activities, but I think alot of the problems are from bad
"posture" of the wrists in whatever we are doing.

2. Changed the way I slept. No more curling the hands under a pillow.
Sleep with flat hands straight wrists and straight fingers.

3. Iced my wrists nightly for about two months. Serious ice. Fill
some styrofoam cups about 2/3, place in freezer, use one a night.
Peel back styrofoam and apply to wrists, past the point of pain.

I've been "clean" nigh on eight years now. I realize some people
have real problems that can only be corrected through surgery, but
I can vouch that you can be in serious pain and seemingly no hope,
and recover on your own.

Jon.

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Warren wrote in message et...

While I look forward to seeing you again, please be prepared for my
questions regarding the surgery that your wife went under. I need both
wrists done and am putting it off due to some of the horror stories I
have heard..... :-(

Don't know how bad off you are and I'm no medical doc but it might be
controllable/reversible.

I was in pretty bad pain while finishing my phd, using pads, wrist
splints, anything I could to try to help. Nothing did...until I did
the following:

1. Change the way I typed. Holding wrists up in the air and having
hands level with my arms was VERY important. Your CT might be from
some other activities, but I think alot of the problems are from bad
"posture" of the wrists in whatever we are doing.

2. Changed the way I slept. No more curling the hands under a pillow.
Sleep with flat hands straight wrists and straight fingers.

3. Iced my wrists nightly for about two months. Serious ice. Fill
some styrofoam cups about 2/3, place in freezer, use one a night.
Peel back styrofoam and apply to wrists, past the point of pain.

I've been "clean" nigh on eight years now. I realize some people
have real problems that can only be corrected through surgery, but
I can vouch that you can be in serious pain and seemingly no hope,
and recover on your own.

Jon.

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Warren wrote:
wrote...
I'm hoping to head up Friday afternoon/evening- probably tent
camping. I
still don't know if Linda is comming- she recently had carpal tunnel
surgery
and they have not established her return to work schedule. She
thought that
labor day weekend would likely be her first weekend back to work.
I'll have
to head back Monday the 6th.

While I look forward to seeing you again, please be prepared for my
questions regarding the surgery that your wife went under. I need
both
wrists done and am putting it off due to some of the horror stories I
have heard..... :-(
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt at earth(nospam)link dot net to reply via email)

Meg's surgeon says he's done over 2000 with no problems. Meg had the
stitches out yesterday, and is mostly free of pain already. I don't
know how long she's supposed to wait before full activity, but I think
it's just 2 weeks after the surgery. From all I've heard, you should
do it. The other methods work somewhat, some of the time, but the
surgery is much more reliable.

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Warren wrote:
wrote...
I'm hoping to head up Friday afternoon/evening- probably tent
camping. I
still don't know if Linda is comming- she recently had carpal tunnel
surgery
and they have not established her return to work schedule. She
thought that
labor day weekend would likely be her first weekend back to work.
I'll have
to head back Monday the 6th.

While I look forward to seeing you again, please be prepared for my
questions regarding the surgery that your wife went under. I need
both
wrists done and am putting it off due to some of the horror stories I
have heard..... :-(
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt at earth(nospam)link dot net to reply via email)

Meg's surgeon says he's done over 2000 with no problems. Meg had the
stitches out yesterday, and is mostly free of pain already. I don't
know how long she's supposed to wait before full activity, but I think
it's just 2 weeks after the surgery. From all I've heard, you should
do it. The other methods work somewhat, some of the time, but the
surgery is much more reliable.

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"John Hightower" wrote:
They are waffling about how long she will
be off work- 4 weeks to 6 weeks. It's been about 2 now, and she
really has
no strength in her thumb- so I've been kind of helping out, dishes,
yardwork, etc- hey! wait a minute!

John, all that yard work now should buy you the time you need at
Sherburne lake!

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"John Hightower" wrote:
They are waffling about how long she will
be off work- 4 weeks to 6 weeks. It's been about 2 now, and she
really has
no strength in her thumb- so I've been kind of helping out, dishes,
yardwork, etc- hey! wait a minute!

John, all that yard work now should buy you the time you need at
Sherburne lake!

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"Chas Wade" wrote in message
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Meg's surgeon says he's done over 2000 with no problems...

He's a liar.

Wolfgang

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"Chas Wade" wrote in message
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Meg's surgeon says he's done over 2000 with no problems...

He's a liar.

Wolfgang

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"Wolfgang" wrote:

"Chas Wade" wrote in message
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Meg's surgeon says he's done over 2000 with no problems...

He's a liar.

Of course, we all are.

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"Chas Wade" wrote in message
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Meg's surgeon says he's done over 2000 with no problems...

He's a liar.

Of course, we all are.

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"Chas Wade" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote:

"Chas Wade" wrote in message
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Meg's surgeon says he's done over 2000 with no problems...

He's a liar.

Of course, we all are.

Well, that much is true.

Wolfgang

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"Chas Wade" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote:

"Chas Wade" wrote in message
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Meg's surgeon says he's done over 2000 with no problems...

He's a liar.

Of course, we all are.

Well, that much is true.

Wolfgang

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"Wolfgang" wrote:

"Chas Wade" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote:

"Chas Wade" wrote in message
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Meg's surgeon says he's done over 2000 with no problems...

He's a liar.

Of course, we all are.

Well, that much is true.

I knew there was some common ground here.

Actually, "no problems" has different meanings for different folks. I
didn't press the matter because I'd already learned about the man's
reputation.

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"Wolfgang" wrote:

"Chas Wade" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote:

"Chas Wade" wrote in message
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Meg's surgeon says he's done over 2000 with no problems...

He's a liar.

Of course, we all are.

Well, that much is true.

I knew there was some common ground here.

Actually, "no problems" has different meanings for different folks. I
didn't press the matter because I'd already learned about the man's
reputation.

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"Chas Wade" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote:

"Chas Wade" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote:

"Chas Wade" wrote in message
news:y7xUc.141881$8_6.126711@attbi_s04...

Meg's surgeon says he's done over 2000 with no problems...

He's a liar.

Of course, we all are.

Well, that much is true.

I knew there was some common ground here.

Maybe.

Actually, "no problems" has different meanings for different folks.

I suspect that for someone contemplating surgery it means "no problems".

I
didn't press the matter because I'd already learned about the man's
reputation.

That much is exclusively your choice.

Wolfgang
for something there's so much of, ground would appear to be a bit less
common than some suppose.

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"Chas Wade" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote:

"Chas Wade" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote:

"Chas Wade" wrote in message
news:y7xUc.141881$8_6.126711@attbi_s04...

Meg's surgeon says he's done over 2000 with no problems...

He's a liar.

Of course, we all are.

Well, that much is true.

I knew there was some common ground here.

Maybe.

Actually, "no problems" has different meanings for different folks.

I suspect that for someone contemplating surgery it means "no problems".

I
didn't press the matter because I'd already learned about the man's
reputation.

That much is exclusively your choice.

Wolfgang
for something there's so much of, ground would appear to be a bit less
common than some suppose.

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Warren wrote:

wrote...
I'm hoping to head up Friday afternoon/evening- probably tent
camping. I still don't know if Linda is comming- she recently had
carpal tunnel surgery and they have not established her return to
work schedule. She thought that labor day weekend would likely be
her first weekend back to work. I'll have to head back Monday the
6th.

While I look forward to seeing you again, please be prepared for my
questions regarding the surgery that your wife went under. I need
both wrists done and am putting it off due to some of the horror
stories I have heard..... :-(

Warren:

I just had both wrists done this spring (March and May) and wished I
hadn't put it off as long as I did. My right wrist was done some 6 or
8 years ago and had to be re-done. Some folks just have it return.

But the pain is gone!!!!

I had my right elbow done at the same time (tennis elbow) and there
again, wish I hadn't waited so long - although the insurance company
made me go through the hoops with trying everything else - cortizone
shots, etc. first.

If you have a bunch of pain and tingling, numbness and you've tried the
basics to relieve it, don't wait - as long as that is what you're Dr.
suggests.

I,too will be at the clave, so you can feel free to talk to me about my
experiences.

Looking forward to meet everyone - and learn about flyfishing for pike!

Are all of you tent camping?

I'm kinda concerned about tents in bear country.

Have fun,

George

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Warren wrote:

wrote...
I'm hoping to head up Friday afternoon/evening- probably tent
camping. I still don't know if Linda is comming- she recently had
carpal tunnel surgery and they have not established her return to
work schedule. She thought that labor day weekend would likely be
her first weekend back to work. I'll have to head back Monday the
6th.

While I look forward to seeing you again, please be prepared for my
questions regarding the surgery that your wife went under. I need
both wrists done and am putting it off due to some of the horror
stories I have heard..... :-(

Warren:

I just had both wrists done this spring (March and May) and wished I
hadn't put it off as long as I did. My right wrist was done some 6 or
8 years ago and had to be re-done. Some folks just have it return.

But the pain is gone!!!!

I had my right elbow done at the same time (tennis elbow) and there
again, wish I hadn't waited so long - although the insurance company
made me go through the hoops with trying everything else - cortizone
shots, etc. first.

If you have a bunch of pain and tingling, numbness and you've tried the
basics to relieve it, don't wait - as long as that is what you're Dr.
suggests.

I,too will be at the clave, so you can feel free to talk to me about my
experiences.

Looking forward to meet everyone - and learn about flyfishing for pike!

Are all of you tent camping?

I'm kinda concerned about tents in bear country.

Have fun,

George

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Warren wrote:

wrote...
I'm hoping to head up Friday afternoon/evening- probably tent
camping. I still don't know if Linda is comming- she recently had
carpal tunnel surgery and they have not established her return to
work schedule. She thought that labor day weekend would likely be
her first weekend back to work. I'll have to head back Monday the
6th.

While I look forward to seeing you again, please be prepared for my
questions regarding the surgery that your wife went under. I need
both wrists done and am putting it off due to some of the horror
stories I have heard..... :-(

Warren:

I just had both wrists done this spring (March and May) and wished I
hadn't put it off as long as I did. My right wrist was done some 6 or
8 years ago and had to be re-done. Some folks just have it return.

But the pain is gone!!!!

I had my right elbow done at the same time (tennis elbow) and there
again, wish I hadn't waited so long - although the insurance company
made me go through the hoops with trying everything else - cortizone
shots, etc. first.

If you have a bunch of pain and tingling, numbness and you've tried the
basics to relieve it, don't wait - as long as that is what you're Dr.
suggests.

I,too will be at the clave, so you can feel free to talk to me about my
experiences.

Looking forward to meet everyone - and learn about flyfishing for pike!

Are all of you tent camping?

I'm kinda concerned about tents in bear country.

Have fun,

George

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"George G. Miller" wrote
snip
Are all of you tent camping?

I'm kinda concerned about tents in bear country.

Frank Reid should be able to recommend the best tent for this situation. If you
need advice on attire to wear, Wolfgang is probably more . . . . experienced in
that regard.
--
TL,
Tim
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"George G. Miller" wrote
snip
Are all of you tent camping?

I'm kinda concerned about tents in bear country.

Frank Reid should be able to recommend the best tent for this situation. If you
need advice on attire to wear, Wolfgang is probably more . . . . experienced in
that regard.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

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"George G. Miller" wrote
snip
Are all of you tent camping?

I'm kinda concerned about tents in bear country.

Frank Reid should be able to recommend the best tent for this situation. If you
need advice on attire to wear, Wolfgang is probably more . . . . experienced in
that regard.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

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"George G. Miller" wrote:

Are all of you tent camping?

I'm kinda concerned about tents in bear country.

Have fun,

George

I've camped there regularly, including a day when we had to stop
cooking because a full grown grizzly came into camp. If you keep the
food out of the tent, you're OK. The campground is fair sized, and
busy in the summer, bears mostly stay away.

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