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Basspro* November 6th, 2003 05:40 PM

Redfish spawn
 
Does anyone know when redfish (red drum) spawn in the panhandle area
of Florida or nearby areas? I have spotted several bull reds (over
40") in the sound and bay near my house and wonder if they are
spawning because I usually don't spot redfish that large in the area.

licker November 7th, 2003 04:24 AM

Redfish spawn
 
Down here in Louisiana, the redfish spawn in October. We like to call it
Red October. Redfishing has been super since late August. I went three
weeks ago and caught a limit (5) of redfish in the 23 to 25 inch range in
less then 45 minutes. I went today and caught another limit with a dozen
specks for good measure. The reds were caught in a little less then an
hour. The information below may explain.

Red drum, like many other members of the drum family, spawn in high salinity
waters in areas of high tidal current flow, such as areas near barrier
island passes. Spawning usually takes place over an 8 or 9 week period from
mid-August to mid-October. During this period, male red drum stake out, in
large numbers, the prime spawning areas in and near the passes, being ready
to spawn virtually every night. There they form large schools at night,
called drumming aggregations, because of the drumming sound that they make
with their air bladders to attract females. Females on the other hand, tend
to appear at these areas only when immediately ready to spawn, which seems
to be once every 2 to 7 days. This means that the large majority of redfish
taken during this time by recreational fishermen are males, rather than
females. While the 2-month spawning period is less than half that for
spotted seatrout, the spawning potential of an individual redfish is truly
stupendous. At an average of 1.5 million eggs per spawn, and a spawning
every 2 to 4 days, the average female can be expected to produce 20-40
million eggs per season.


Sarge



Basspro* November 7th, 2003 02:27 PM

Redfish spawn
 
Sarge, Thanks for the info. That really helps. I haven't been able to
find facts about the spawn of redfish. There is a book out that I'm
trying to locate called THE REDFISH BOOK by Frank Sargeant that is
supposed to be very good. Are you familiar with it?

"licker" wrote in message ...
Down here in Louisiana, the redfish spawn in October. We like to call it
Red October. Redfishing has been super since late August. I went three
weeks ago and caught a limit (5) of redfish in the 23 to 25 inch range in
less then 45 minutes. I went today and caught another limit with a dozen
specks for good measure. The reds were caught in a little less then an
hour. The information below may explain.

Red drum, like many other members of the drum family, spawn in high salinity
waters in areas of high tidal current flow, such as areas near barrier
island passes. Spawning usually takes place over an 8 or 9 week period from
mid-August to mid-October. During this period, male red drum stake out, in
large numbers, the prime spawning areas in and near the passes, being ready
to spawn virtually every night. There they form large schools at night,
called drumming aggregations, because of the drumming sound that they make
with their air bladders to attract females. Females on the other hand, tend
to appear at these areas only when immediately ready to spawn, which seems
to be once every 2 to 7 days. This means that the large majority of redfish
taken during this time by recreational fishermen are males, rather than
females. While the 2-month spawning period is less than half that for
spotted seatrout, the spawning potential of an individual redfish is truly
stupendous. At an average of 1.5 million eggs per spawn, and a spawning
every 2 to 4 days, the average female can be expected to produce 20-40
million eggs per season.


Sarge


Bill Kiene November 8th, 2003 08:12 PM

Redfish spawn
 
http://www.flaredfish.com/

You might email the Robinson Brothers Guide Service in Apalachicola from
their web site above?

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA
www.kiene.com

"Basspro*" wrote in message
om...

Does anyone know when redfish (red drum) spawn in the panhandle area
of Florida or nearby areas? I have spotted several bull reds (over
40") in the sound and bay near my house and wonder if they are
spawning because I usually don't spot redfish that large in the area.




licker November 9th, 2003 12:25 AM

Redfish spawn
 
No, I am not familiar with that book. I retrieve some of information on
what you were asking from living in Louisiana all my life. The exact
description of the spawning process came from a web site that I visit quite
often. www.rodnreel.com Since you live in Florida there is also a site for
Florida it is http://www.fl.rodngun.com/ From what I can tell both links
take you back to the same information.

There is a section on fish identification. It list sal****er fish by common
names and scientific name.

You may also want to try and get a book called Sport Fish of Florida by Vic
Dunaway. It has some good pictures of fish and information on habitat, food
and if it is edible. It actually covers fish in the entire Gulf of Mexico.

I did some quick research for you and Barnes and Nobles is showing the book
in the used category. You may also want to try these
http://www.sanibel-online.com/store/fish2.htm
http://www.weekend-sportsman.com/boo...hingSW_24.html

I hopes this helps out.

Sarge



Basspro* November 10th, 2003 08:33 PM

Redfish spawn
 
Thanks for the reference info. I actually have another book of Vic
Dunaway's called Baits, Rigs, and Tackle. Great book for reference of
fishing live bait. He's a great author and I'll check into the book.
On another note, do you have much success in November fishing for
redfish in LA? I've heard live bait is the way to go this time of
year, although I'm partial to artificials like Yo-Zuri's, Zara Spooks,
and Mirrolures.

"licker" wrote in message ...
No, I am not familiar with that book. I retrieve some of information on
what you were asking from living in Louisiana all my life. The exact
description of the spawning process came from a web site that I visit quite
often. www.rodnreel.com Since you live in Florida there is also a site for
Florida it is http://www.fl.rodngun.com/ From what I can tell both links
take you back to the same information.

There is a section on fish identification. It list sal****er fish by common
names and scientific name.

You may also want to try and get a book called Sport Fish of Florida by Vic
Dunaway. It has some good pictures of fish and information on habitat, food
and if it is edible. It actually covers fish in the entire Gulf of Mexico.

I did some quick research for you and Barnes and Nobles is showing the book
in the used category. You may also want to try these
http://www.sanibel-online.com/store/fish2.htm
http://www.weekend-sportsman.com/boo...hingSW_24.html

I hopes this helps out.

Sarge


WMHJ November 11th, 2003 01:45 AM

Redfish spawn
 
I just got back home from Venice, La. last Friday. We had a great trip.
Fished three days and caught a limit of 18-24" fish two of them. On
Wednesday we got into a school of large reds at Southwest Pass. We caught
over 30 35-44" fish in just over an hour. It was incredible. The fishing
is good this Nov. Don't know how long it will last. But it has been great
so far.
Copper
"Basspro*" wrote in message
om...
Thanks for the reference info. I actually have another book of Vic
Dunaway's called Baits, Rigs, and Tackle. Great book for reference of
fishing live bait. He's a great author and I'll check into the book.
On another note, do you have much success in November fishing for
redfish in LA? I've heard live bait is the way to go this time of
year, although I'm partial to artificials like Yo-Zuri's, Zara Spooks,
and Mirrolures.

"licker" wrote in message

...
No, I am not familiar with that book. I retrieve some of information on
what you were asking from living in Louisiana all my life. The exact
description of the spawning process came from a web site that I visit

quite
often. www.rodnreel.com Since you live in Florida there is also a site

for
Florida it is http://www.fl.rodngun.com/ From what I can tell both

links
take you back to the same information.

There is a section on fish identification. It list sal****er fish by

common
names and scientific name.

You may also want to try and get a book called Sport Fish of Florida by

Vic
Dunaway. It has some good pictures of fish and information on habitat,

food
and if it is edible. It actually covers fish in the entire Gulf of

Mexico.

I did some quick research for you and Barnes and Nobles is showing the

book
in the used category. You may also want to try these
http://www.sanibel-online.com/store/fish2.htm
http://www.weekend-sportsman.com/boo...hingSW_24.html

I hopes this helps out.

Sarge




licker November 11th, 2003 12:07 PM

Redfish spawn
 
I hardly use live bait at this time of the year. I usually purchase live
shrimp in the spring and summer. At this time of the year I usually switch
to artificial. However due to the lack of cold weather I picked up on some
live shrimp the last two trips out. I don't just target reds when I fish.
I go after both specks and reds.

What works here in Louisiana may not work as well in Florida. I have caught
reds on artificial, live shrimp, market shrimp (dead), gold spoon, top water
lures, and live cocohoe minnow. In Louisiana the water is never clear
enough to see them swimming near the boat. You can see their fin sticking
out the water in the flats near the shore line or see the swirl of the water
as they work the shore line.

My favorite bait is probably the gold spoon. I usually go into a pond with
two foot of water or less and work the shore line. If there is an oyster
reef in the area, I will work that area with a Deadly Dudly lure or just
market shrimp under a Cajun popping cork If the tide is falling I will
work the bayous and canals for the reds and trout. Uf the tide is rising, I
will work the bays and lakes at the mouth of the bayous and canals. I throw
my lure into the opening of the bayou and pull back to the lake.

Limiting out on redfish in November is usually not much of a problem.

The trout still seem to be in their summer pattern due to the warm weather.
They are scatter amongst the bays and lakes. The reds are all over.

I would love to give you another report for today but unfortunately I have
tow problems. First someone rammed my boat motor damaging the lower unit.
Still waiting to get it fixed. Second, I worked overtime last night and
just got off. I also have to work overtime tonight and my regular shift
Wednesday and Thursday nights. So fishing is out of the question right now.
Hopefully, the deer hunting will be good next weekend.

Sarge



Basspro* November 11th, 2003 03:43 PM

Redfish spawn
 
You mentioned that you like gold spoons the best. I have a few but
hate to throw them because they twist my line so bad (even with a
swivel). Is there a technique that helps keep line twist to a minimum?

"licker" wrote in message ...
I hardly use live bait at this time of the year. I usually purchase live
shrimp in the spring and summer. At this time of the year I usually switch
to artificial. However due to the lack of cold weather I picked up on some
live shrimp the last two trips out. I don't just target reds when I fish.
I go after both specks and reds.

What works here in Louisiana may not work as well in Florida. I have caught
reds on artificial, live shrimp, market shrimp (dead), gold spoon, top water
lures, and live cocohoe minnow. In Louisiana the water is never clear
enough to see them swimming near the boat. You can see their fin sticking
out the water in the flats near the shore line or see the swirl of the water
as they work the shore line.

My favorite bait is probably the gold spoon. I usually go into a pond with
two foot of water or less and work the shore line. If there is an oyster
reef in the area, I will work that area with a Deadly Dudly lure or just
market shrimp under a Cajun popping cork If the tide is falling I will
work the bayous and canals for the reds and trout. Uf the tide is rising, I
will work the bays and lakes at the mouth of the bayous and canals. I throw
my lure into the opening of the bayou and pull back to the lake.

Limiting out on redfish in November is usually not much of a problem.

The trout still seem to be in their summer pattern due to the warm weather.
They are scatter amongst the bays and lakes. The reds are all over.

I would love to give you another report for today but unfortunately I have
tow problems. First someone rammed my boat motor damaging the lower unit.
Still waiting to get it fixed. Second, I worked overtime last night and
just got off. I also have to work overtime tonight and my regular shift
Wednesday and Thursday nights. So fishing is out of the question right now.
Hopefully, the deer hunting will be good next weekend.

Sarge


joe November 12th, 2003 06:20 AM

Redfish spawn
 
In article ,
(Basspro*) wrote:

You mentioned that you like gold spoons the best. I have a few but
hate to throw them because they twist my line so bad (even with a
swivel). Is there a technique that helps keep line twist to a minimum?


I will chime in on this as well. I use the silver spoon rather than the
gold and usually have an outfit with a spoon when fishing the flats. As
for line twist, you have to use a good swivel. What a 'good' swivel is
can be hard to say. I prefer the ball bearing swivel.

The best way to reduce the affect of line twist is to use a bait caster.
Normally I have 4 to 6 outfits and 2 or three are baitcasters. The only
real weakness is the wind. If the position of the fish is upwind it can
be difficult. I still use a spoon on a spinning outfit often as well and
have little problems with line twist.

regards,

atljoe
--
"Atlanta Joe" aka Joe Webb
Flats fishing is Flat Fun!
Visit my site at
http://flatsfisher.com


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