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Chris Rennert September 25th, 2006 01:34 PM

New Secret Weapon spinnerbait
 
Hey all, Joe had built me a new secret weapon spinner bait while I was
at the NWC. This is a dual spinner blade spinner bait, but the blades
are side by side, seems to keep the bait up with less effort.
Anyway, yesterday morning I had the first real chance at using that
bait, and got on the water about 7am. I was greeted with 46 degrees and
a Northwest wind at about 15mph. I pulled up on my first spot, and in
20 minutes had 7 smallies on the spinner bait, including a 17.5 that
probably went over 3lbs. I ended up catching 13 total, but the key
seemed to be keeping the bait up above the dying weeds in about 3' of water.

Thanks SWL, one more tool in the arsenal. I also wanted to say, those
fish refused to come all the way up, I threw a zara spook and buzzbait
for a while as well and got no reaction. But running that spinner bait
just under the surface was the ticket.

Chris

Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers September 25th, 2006 04:56 PM

New Secret Weapon spinnerbait
 

"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
.. .
Hey all, Joe had built me a new secret weapon spinner bait while I was at
the NWC. This is a dual spinner blade spinner bait, but the blades are
side by side, seems to keep the bait up with less effort.
Anyway, yesterday morning I had the first real chance at using that bait,
and got on the water about 7am. I was greeted with 46 degrees and a
Northwest wind at about 15mph. I pulled up on my first spot, and in 20
minutes had 7 smallies on the spinner bait, including a 17.5 that probably
went over 3lbs. I ended up catching 13 total, but the key seemed to be
keeping the bait up above the dying weeds in about 3' of water.

Thanks SWL, one more tool in the arsenal. I also wanted to say, those
fish refused to come all the way up, I threw a zara spook and buzzbait for
a while as well and got no reaction. But running that spinner bait just
under the surface was the ticket.

Chris


That little bugger helped me win the NWC. On Day 2, I popped a nice
largemouth off a boat lift using that bait. In addition to that, I caught a
bunch of shorts and had a 45 - 48 inch muskie decide that it looked good
enough to eat! Unfortunately, I had to apply a lot of pressure to keep her
out of the outboard and the hook pulled free.

I love that little lure, like you say, it works high and slow, with the
blades just churning away.

It throws a lot of flash and vibration without having a lot of horizontal
speed. It was perfect for that Friday and the severe cold front that had
moved in!

When I start feeling better, I plan on throwing it a lot. Heck, I might
even say "Screw it" and go today!
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers September 26th, 2006 01:48 PM

New Secret Weapon spinnerbait
 

"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
.. .
DDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAHHHHHH!!!! I broke off my prototype last night on a
smallie. It broke 14lb Fluoro during the fight.
I got to fish from 5pm till 7pm last night. Me and a friend of mine
landed 25 smallies in those 2 hours with our biggest limit (5) going about
15lbs. Boy do I love the fall!


And that's why I use 30 or 50 pound PowerPro. The fish don't seem to mind
and I keep a lot more of my lures for longer periods of time.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



Chris Rennert September 26th, 2006 01:49 PM

New Secret Weapon spinnerbait
 
DDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAHHHHHH!!!! I broke off my prototype last night on a
smallie. It broke 14lb Fluoro during the fight.
I got to fish from 5pm till 7pm last night. Me and a friend of mine
landed 25 smallies in those 2 hours with our biggest limit (5) going
about 15lbs. Boy do I love the fall!

Chris
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers wrote:
"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
.. .
Hey all, Joe had built me a new secret weapon spinner bait while I was at
the NWC. This is a dual spinner blade spinner bait, but the blades are
side by side, seems to keep the bait up with less effort.
Anyway, yesterday morning I had the first real chance at using that bait,
and got on the water about 7am. I was greeted with 46 degrees and a
Northwest wind at about 15mph. I pulled up on my first spot, and in 20
minutes had 7 smallies on the spinner bait, including a 17.5 that probably
went over 3lbs. I ended up catching 13 total, but the key seemed to be
keeping the bait up above the dying weeds in about 3' of water.

Thanks SWL, one more tool in the arsenal. I also wanted to say, those
fish refused to come all the way up, I threw a zara spook and buzzbait for
a while as well and got no reaction. But running that spinner bait just
under the surface was the ticket.

Chris


That little bugger helped me win the NWC. On Day 2, I popped a nice
largemouth off a boat lift using that bait. In addition to that, I caught a
bunch of shorts and had a 45 - 48 inch muskie decide that it looked good
enough to eat! Unfortunately, I had to apply a lot of pressure to keep her
out of the outboard and the hook pulled free.

I love that little lure, like you say, it works high and slow, with the
blades just churning away.

It throws a lot of flash and vibration without having a lot of horizontal
speed. It was perfect for that Friday and the severe cold front that had
moved in!

When I start feeling better, I plan on throwing it a lot. Heck, I might
even say "Screw it" and go today!


Bob La Londe September 26th, 2006 02:16 PM

New Secret Weapon spinnerbait
 

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
.. .
DDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAHHHHHH!!!! I broke off my prototype last night on a
smallie. It broke 14lb Fluoro during the fight.
I got to fish from 5pm till 7pm last night. Me and a friend of mine
landed 25 smallies in those 2 hours with our biggest limit (5) going
about 15lbs. Boy do I love the fall!


And that's why I use 30 or 50 pound PowerPro. The fish don't seem to
mind and I keep a lot more of my lures for longer periods of time.
--



I have snapped 30 pound braid three times on fish before Only on initial
contact though. Never while fighting them in open water. (one I think was a
huge flathead) 50 pound only when setting the hook on a dock pole. I have
upgraded to 65 on my big custom flipping stick.


--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



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Bob La Londe September 26th, 2006 02:17 PM

New Secret Weapon spinnerbait
 

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
.. .
DDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAHHHHHH!!!! I broke off my prototype last night on a
smallie. It broke 14lb Fluoro during the fight.
I got to fish from 5pm till 7pm last night. Me and a friend of mine
landed 25 smallies in those 2 hours with our biggest limit (5) going
about 15lbs. Boy do I love the fall!


And that's why I use 30 or 50 pound PowerPro. The fish don't seem to
mind and I keep a lot more of my lures for longer periods of time.
--


P.S. A tiny backlash will cost you a 1/2 spinner bait even on 50 lb Power
Pro. I launched my largest cash winnig spinner bait up the side of the
mountain in Island Lake one day.


--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



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johnval1 September 26th, 2006 02:42 PM

New Secret Weapon spinnerbait
 

"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
.. .
Hey all, Joe had built me a new secret weapon spinner bait while I was at
the NWC. This is a dual spinner blade spinner bait, but the blades are
side by side, seems to keep the bait up with less effort.

, but the key
seemed to be keeping the bait up above the dying weeds in about 3' of
water.



OK, where can us mere mortals get these great spinners? I gotta get me a
bagfull of these things.



Bob La Londe September 26th, 2006 03:30 PM

New Secret Weapon spinnerbait
 
"johnval1" wrote in message
t...

"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
.. .
Hey all, Joe had built me a new secret weapon spinner bait while I was at
the NWC. This is a dual spinner blade spinner bait, but the blades are
side by side, seems to keep the bait up with less effort.

, but the key
seemed to be keeping the bait up above the dying weeds in about 3' of
water.



OK, where can us mere mortals get these great spinners? I gotta get me a
bagfull of these things.


There are some dual side by side blades available from other manufacturers
if SWL doesn't get one out to you quick enough. I personally have a ton of
SWLs, but there are a few blades I use from other MFGs. For instance the
old light wire Willy Wackers with the thin wire seem to get more bites than
any other blade I've tried including the SWLs. The problem with the Willy
Wackers is that light wire doesn't hold up. Two or three fish or one good
fish and you can count on it breaking on the next one. Its great it if you
don't mind throwing baits away all day long. A firend of mine came up with
a really cool varient of his own design. An old style heavy wire spinner
bait with the upper arm removed and a light wire arm crimped and then spot
welded in place with a metal sleeve. The vibration of this bait is
incredible. If I am fishing badly stained water or working through an algae
bloom this bait comes out and gets slow rolled. A willow blade on this
thing thumps almost like a Colorado blade on an SWL. A Colorado blade will
almost jerk the rod out of your hands on the thump. You may eventually
loose or bend the upper arm, but you won't lose a fish from breakage. Its
an interesting comprimise bait with great charachteristics. Don't get me
wrong. I like my SWLs just fine except for the rubber bands breaking on all
my older baits and leaving the skirts laying in the bottom of my rod locker.
I usually have two SWLs tied on at any given time. A light one on spinning
tackle for submerged grassbed fishing, and a heavy one tied on braid or
heavy mono for deep probing, searching, and fishig submerged standup trees
when the crank bait isn't working.

Anyway... I know how popular SWL is here, but but there are other blades
and each has their benefit.

Another example and one of the reason I had such a hard time coming around
to SWL is that it fouls and snags when spinner flipping. Since flipping a
spinner bait was the first thing I learned how to do with one that bothered
me a lot. Back then in open water, grassbeds, and rocks my first goto was a
crankbait, not a spinnerbait. You smack a tulie on the pitch or flip with an
SWL and you have a 50/50 chance of hanging it up. Forget trying to drop it
through floating cane mats. That is one of the techniques where an old
heavy wire blade does a better job. Of course some folks will ask why in
the heck I don't use a jig or creatre bait to flip those spots. Because
sometimes the blade catches more fish flipped than a conventional flipping
bait.

I personally think anybody who does not have a dozen SWLs with various
blades and skirts is missing a valuable tool in their aresenal. However, be
aware that there are lots of other blades on the market and there are some
things that others do as well or better.

Oh Yeah. That thin arm blade is made by Simon Apodaka of King Cobra Lures.
--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com




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Bob Rickard September 26th, 2006 04:48 PM

New Secret Weapon spinnerbait
 
Bob, you evidently haven't seen the new dual blade lure we are testing. You
say: "There are some dual side by side blades available from other
manufacturers if SWL doesn't get one out to you quick enough.", but that
won't do anyone any good. The others have zero in common with ours... they
don't look like it, fish like it, produce like it or do anything else like
it. If it were just another dual side by side lure, we wouldn't consider
putting our name on it.

--
Bob Rickard
Founder and Director
www.secretweaponlures.com
Better Designs = Better Performance = Better Results
First real spinnerbait change in 50 years!
---------------------- ~ 0')))
.................................................. .................................................. ...

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
.. .
"johnval1" wrote in message
t...

"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
.. .
Hey all, Joe had built me a new secret weapon spinner bait while I was
at the NWC. This is a dual spinner blade spinner bait, but the blades
are side by side, seems to keep the bait up with less effort.

, but the key
seemed to be keeping the bait up above the dying weeds in about 3' of
water.



OK, where can us mere mortals get these great spinners? I gotta get me a
bagfull of these things.


There are some dual side by side blades available from other manufacturers
if SWL doesn't get one out to you quick enough. I personally have a ton
of SWLs, but there are a few blades I use from other MFGs. For instance
the old light wire Willy Wackers with the thin wire seem to get more bites
than any other blade I've tried including the SWLs. The problem with the
Willy Wackers is that light wire doesn't hold up. Two or three fish or
one good fish and you can count on it breaking on the next one. Its great
it if you don't mind throwing baits away all day long. A firend of mine
came up with a really cool varient of his own design. An old style heavy
wire spinner bait with the upper arm removed and a light wire arm crimped
and then spot welded in place with a metal sleeve. The vibration of this
bait is incredible. If I am fishing badly stained water or working
through an algae bloom this bait comes out and gets slow rolled. A willow
blade on this thing thumps almost like a Colorado blade on an SWL. A
Colorado blade will almost jerk the rod out of your hands on the thump.
You may eventually loose or bend the upper arm, but you won't lose a fish
from breakage. Its an interesting comprimise bait with great
charachteristics. Don't get me wrong. I like my SWLs just fine except
for the rubber bands breaking on all my older baits and leaving the skirts
laying in the bottom of my rod locker. I usually have two SWLs tied on at
any given time. A light one on spinning tackle for submerged grassbed
fishing, and a heavy one tied on braid or heavy mono for deep probing,
searching, and fishig submerged standup trees when the crank bait isn't
working.

Anyway... I know how popular SWL is here, but but there are other blades
and each has their benefit.

Another example and one of the reason I had such a hard time coming around
to SWL is that it fouls and snags when spinner flipping. Since flipping a
spinner bait was the first thing I learned how to do with one that
bothered me a lot. Back then in open water, grassbeds, and rocks my first
goto was a crankbait, not a spinnerbait. You smack a tulie on the pitch or
flip with an SWL and you have a 50/50 chance of hanging it up. Forget
trying to drop it through floating cane mats. That is one of the
techniques where an old heavy wire blade does a better job. Of course
some folks will ask why in the heck I don't use a jig or creatre bait to
flip those spots. Because sometimes the blade catches more fish flipped
than a conventional flipping bait.

I personally think anybody who does not have a dozen SWLs with various
blades and skirts is missing a valuable tool in their aresenal. However,
be aware that there are lots of other blades on the market and there are
some things that others do as well or better.

Oh Yeah. That thin arm blade is made by Simon Apodaka of King Cobra
Lures.
--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com




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Bob La Londe September 26th, 2006 05:43 PM

New Secret Weapon spinnerbait
 

"Bob Rickard" wrote in message
t...
Bob, you evidently haven't seen the new dual blade lure we are testing.
You say: "There are some dual side by side blades available from other
manufacturers if SWL doesn't get one out to you quick enough.", but that
won't do anyone any good. The others have zero in common with ours... they
don't look like it, fish like it, produce like it or do anything else like
it. If it were just another dual side by side lure, we wouldn't consider
putting our name on it.



So tell us where we can see it.


--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com





"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
.. .
"johnval1" wrote in message
t...

"Chris Rennert" wrote in message
.. .
Hey all, Joe had built me a new secret weapon spinner bait while I was
at the NWC. This is a dual spinner blade spinner bait, but the blades
are side by side, seems to keep the bait up with less effort.
, but the key
seemed to be keeping the bait up above the dying weeds in about 3' of
water.


OK, where can us mere mortals get these great spinners? I gotta get me
a bagfull of these things.


There are some dual side by side blades available from other
manufacturers if SWL doesn't get one out to you quick enough. I
personally have a ton of SWLs, but there are a few blades I use from
other MFGs. For instance the old light wire Willy Wackers with the thin
wire seem to get more bites than any other blade I've tried including the
SWLs. The problem with the Willy Wackers is that light wire doesn't hold
up. Two or three fish or one good fish and you can count on it breaking
on the next one. Its great it if you don't mind throwing baits away all
day long. A firend of mine came up with a really cool varient of his own
design. An old style heavy wire spinner bait with the upper arm removed
and a light wire arm crimped and then spot welded in place with a metal
sleeve. The vibration of this bait is incredible. If I am fishing badly
stained water or working through an algae bloom this bait comes out and
gets slow rolled. A willow blade on this thing thumps almost like a
Colorado blade on an SWL. A Colorado blade will almost jerk the rod out
of your hands on the thump. You may eventually loose or bend the upper
arm, but you won't lose a fish from breakage. Its an interesting
comprimise bait with great charachteristics. Don't get me wrong. I like
my SWLs just fine except for the rubber bands breaking on all my older
baits and leaving the skirts laying in the bottom of my rod locker. I
usually have two SWLs tied on at any given time. A light one on spinning
tackle for submerged grassbed fishing, and a heavy one tied on braid or
heavy mono for deep probing, searching, and fishig submerged standup
trees when the crank bait isn't working.

Anyway... I know how popular SWL is here, but but there are other blades
and each has their benefit.

Another example and one of the reason I had such a hard time coming
around to SWL is that it fouls and snags when spinner flipping. Since
flipping a spinner bait was the first thing I learned how to do with one
that bothered me a lot. Back then in open water, grassbeds, and rocks my
first goto was a crankbait, not a spinnerbait. You smack a tulie on the
pitch or flip with an SWL and you have a 50/50 chance of hanging it up.
Forget trying to drop it through floating cane mats. That is one of the
techniques where an old heavy wire blade does a better job. Of course
some folks will ask why in the heck I don't use a jig or creatre bait to
flip those spots. Because sometimes the blade catches more fish flipped
than a conventional flipping bait.

I personally think anybody who does not have a dozen SWLs with various
blades and skirts is missing a valuable tool in their aresenal. However,
be aware that there are lots of other blades on the market and there are
some things that others do as well or better.

Oh Yeah. That thin arm blade is made by Simon Apodaka of King Cobra
Lures.
--
Bob La Londe
Fishing Arizona & The Colorado River
Fishing Forums & Contests
http://www.YumaBassMan.com




--
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