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Once again we made our annual trek across the US from the Great
Northwest to fish the frigid rivers and creeks feeding Lake Erie and
Lake Ontario. And, once again my buds in the PNW wonder why I travel,
"all the way back there when you have Steelhead right in your
backyard!"

Sure we have Steelhead out here in Washington and Oregon, and sure,
they are generally larger than the Great Lakes fish. However, I don't
recall the last time I hooked and landed 12 Steelhead in one day on a
Northwest river.

Fishing was not as good this year, and this was primarily due to the
Lake effect snow and C-O-L-D air and water temperatures.

In the past years we have primarily fished the Lake Erie streams, but
this year we started out on some of the Lake Ontario creeks. We fished
the famous Oak Orchard, and also 18 mile creek. The Browns were pretty
much non-existent due to the falling barometer. Steelhead fishing was
also pretty slow, and some of the Natives complained that this year
has been the pits. Moving down to fish the Lake Erie streams we found
the fish a bit more cooperative. We concentrated on some of the
smaller streams, such as Silver Creek. While we had to work for fish,
and really bundle up because of the cold, we still ended the trip with
double digit catches.

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On 24-Nov-2008, (GreyFox) wrote:

Once again we made our annual trek across the US from the Great
Northwest to fish the frigid rivers and creeks feeding Lake Erie and
Lake Ontario. And, once again my buds in the PNW wonder why I travel,
"all the way back there when you have Steelhead right in your
backyard!"

Sure we have Steelhead out here in Washington and Oregon, and sure,
they are generally larger than the Great Lakes fish. However, I don't
recall the last time I hooked and landed 12 Steelhead in one day on a
Northwest river.

Fishing was not as good this year, and this was primarily due to the
Lake effect snow and C-O-L-D air and water temperatures.

In the past years we have primarily fished the Lake Erie streams, but
this year we started out on some of the Lake Ontario creeks. We fished
the famous Oak Orchard, and also 18 mile creek. The Browns were pretty
much non-existent due to the falling barometer. Steelhead fishing was
also pretty slow, and some of the Natives complained that this year
has been the pits. Moving down to fish the Lake Erie streams we found
the fish a bit more cooperative. We concentrated on some of the
smaller streams, such as Silver Creek. While we had to work for fish,
and really bundle up because of the cold, we still ended the trip with
double digit catches.

A great Great lakes fishing report and COLD
I could feel it when I read it
I have fished 18 mile and Oak Orchard& some of those other Erie Creeks - I
kewn just where you were and cold!!!

Thanks for the report.

Fred

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First time for me on the Ontario streams. Don't know why things are
slow there, but better on the Erie streams. Pennsylvania streams were
reported good the week before, but the Erie area got hammered by lake
effect snow, so fishing pressure should have died off.

I personally don't like fishing the Penn streams as it is "Catch and
Kill" down there.




On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:30:39 GMT, "Fred"
wrote:


On 24-Nov-2008, (GreyFox) wrote:

Once again we made our annual trek across the US from the Great
Northwest to fish the frigid rivers and creeks feeding Lake Erie and
Lake Ontario. And, once again my buds in the PNW wonder why I travel,
"all the way back there when you have Steelhead right in your
backyard!"

Sure we have Steelhead out here in Washington and Oregon, and sure,
they are generally larger than the Great Lakes fish. However, I don't
recall the last time I hooked and landed 12 Steelhead in one day on a
Northwest river.

Fishing was not as good this year, and this was primarily due to the
Lake effect snow and C-O-L-D air and water temperatures.

In the past years we have primarily fished the Lake Erie streams, but
this year we started out on some of the Lake Ontario creeks. We fished
the famous Oak Orchard, and also 18 mile creek. The Browns were pretty
much non-existent due to the falling barometer. Steelhead fishing was
also pretty slow, and some of the Natives complained that this year
has been the pits. Moving down to fish the Lake Erie streams we found
the fish a bit more cooperative. We concentrated on some of the
smaller streams, such as Silver Creek. While we had to work for fish,
and really bundle up because of the cold, we still ended the trip with
double digit catches.

A great Great lakes fishing report and COLD
I could feel it when I read it
I have fished 18 mile and Oak Orchard& some of those other Erie Creeks - I
kewn just where you were and cold!!!

Thanks for the report.

Fred

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I personally don't like fishing the Penn streams as it is "Catch and
Kill" down there.



Yes, I've caught about 1000 in the last 6 years, and killed about a
dozen. I know many fishermen who keep less.

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Well good for you Pete, we need more good guys like you!

Hey, I guess I hit a nerve with my "Penn Catch and Kill" statement.
I'll admit I only fished the Penn creeks for 3 days 2 years ago, , but
honestly I saw a lot more killing of fish in those 3 days, than I have
up on the NY streams.

I got the "catch and kill" statement from a guy who claims he
regularly fishes in both states.




On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:52:59 -0800 (PST), pete z
wrote:



I personally don't like fishing the Penn streams as it is "Catch and
Kill" down there.



Yes, I've caught about 1000 in the last 6 years, and killed about a
dozen. I know many fishermen who keep less.

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Made my 5th annual trip to western NY to fish the Lake Erie streams.
Oh, oh, what is going on in Lake Erie????? While we did indeed catch
some Steelhead, the numbers are obviously down. Yes the water was low
and the weather was unseasonably warm, but talking to a lot of the
local guys resulted in the same complaint: Not as many fish this year.

I spoke at length with a local flyfishing guide, and he is very
concerned. I asked if he had a theory as to what the problem is, and
he thinks there may be "oxygen dead zones" out in the lake.

Any comments????




On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:06:20 GMT, (GreyFox)
wrote:

Once again we made our annual trek across the US from the Great
Northwest to fish the frigid rivers and creeks feeding Lake Erie and
Lake Ontario. And, once again my buds in the PNW wonder why I travel,
"all the way back there when you have Steelhead right in your
backyard!"

Sure we have Steelhead out here in Washington and Oregon, and sure,
they are generally larger than the Great Lakes fish. However, I don't
recall the last time I hooked and landed 12 Steelhead in one day on a
Northwest river.

Fishing was not as good this year, and this was primarily due to the
Lake effect snow and C-O-L-D air and water temperatures.

In the past years we have primarily fished the Lake Erie streams, but
this year we started out on some of the Lake Ontario creeks. We fished
the famous Oak Orchard, and also 18 mile creek. The Browns were pretty
much non-existent due to the falling barometer. Steelhead fishing was
also pretty slow, and some of the Natives complained that this year
has been the pits. Moving down to fish the Lake Erie streams we found
the fish a bit more cooperative. We concentrated on some of the
smaller streams, such as Silver Creek. While we had to work for fish,
and really bundle up because of the cold, we still ended the trip with
double digit catches.

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On Nov 23, 10:28*pm, (GreyFox) wrote:
Made my 5th annual trip to western NY to fish the Lake Erie streams.
Oh, oh, what is going on in Lake Erie????? *While we did indeed catch
some Steelhead, the numbers are obviously down. Yes the water was low
and the weather was unseasonably warm, but talking to a lot of the
local guys resulted in the same complaint: Not as many fish this year.

I spoke at length with a local flyfishing guide, and he is very
concerned. I asked if he had a theory as to what the problem is, and
he thinks there may be "oxygen dead zones" out in the lake.

Any comments????

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:06:20 GMT, (GreyFox)
wrote:



Once again we made our annual trek across the US from the Great
Northwest to fish the frigid rivers and creeks feeding Lake Erie and
Lake Ontario. And, once again my buds in the PNW wonder why I travel,
"all the way back there when you have Steelhead right in your
backyard!"

Sure we have Steelhead out here in Washington and Oregon, and sure,
they are generally larger than the Great Lakes fish. However, I don't
recall the last time I hooked and landed 12 Steelhead in one day on a
Northwest river.

Fishing was not as good this year, and this was primarily due to the
Lake effect snow and C-O-L-D air and water temperatures.

In the past years we have primarily fished the Lake Erie streams, but
this year we started out on some of the Lake Ontario creeks. We fished
the famous Oak Orchard, and also 18 mile creek. The Browns were pretty
much non-existent due to the falling barometer. Steelhead fishing was
also pretty slow, and some of the Natives complained that this year
has been the pits. Moving down to fish the Lake Erie streams we found
the fish a bit more cooperative. We concentrated on some of the
smaller streams, such as Silver Creek. While we had to work for fish,
and really bundle up because of the cold, we still ended the trip with
double digit catches.- Hide quoted text -

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I believe it is the zebra mussels that are wiping out the diporeia.
Big break in the food chain.
Frank Reid

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On Nov 24, 9:23*am, Frank Reid © 2010 wrote:
On Nov 23, 10:28*pm, (GreyFox) wrote:





Made my 5th annual trip to western NY to fish the Lake Erie streams.
Oh, oh, what is going on in Lake Erie????? *While we did indeed catch
some Steelhead, the numbers are obviously down. Yes the water was low
and the weather was unseasonably warm, but talking to a lot of the
local guys resulted in the same complaint: Not as many fish this year.

I spoke at length with a local flyfishing guide, and he is very
concerned. I asked if he had a theory as to what the problem is, and
he thinks there may be "oxygen dead zones" out in the lake.

Any comments????

On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 06:06:20 GMT, (GreyFox)
wrote:

Once again we made our annual trek across the US from the Great
Northwest to fish the frigid rivers and creeks feeding Lake Erie and
Lake Ontario. And, once again my buds in the PNW wonder why I travel,
"all the way back there when you have Steelhead right in your
backyard!"

Sure we have Steelhead out here in Washington and Oregon, and sure,
they are generally larger than the Great Lakes fish. However, I don't
recall the last time I hooked and landed 12 Steelhead in one day on a
Northwest river.

Fishing was not as good this year, and this was primarily due to the
Lake effect snow and C-O-L-D air and water temperatures.

In the past years we have primarily fished the Lake Erie streams, but
this year we started out on some of the Lake Ontario creeks. We fished
the famous Oak Orchard, and also 18 mile creek. The Browns were pretty
much non-existent due to the falling barometer. Steelhead fishing was
also pretty slow, and some of the Natives complained that this year
has been the pits. Moving down to fish the Lake Erie streams we found
the fish a bit more cooperative. We concentrated on some of the
smaller streams, such as Silver Creek. While we had to work for fish,
and really bundle up because of the cold, we still ended the trip with
double digit catches.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I believe it is the zebra mussels that are wiping out the diporeia.
Big break in the food chain.
Frank Reid- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Sidestepping the irony inherent in concerns about Great Lakes ecology
based on the presumed fact that the steelhead fishin' ain't what she
used ta be.....

The Great Lakes of North America are well and truly ****ed. And there
ain't no end in sight.

Details on request. LOTS AND LOTS of details.

giles

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Sidestepping the irony inherent in concerns about Great Lakes ecology
based on the presumed fact that the steelhead fishin' ain't what she
used ta be.....

The Great Lakes of North America are well and truly ****ed. And there
ain't no end in sight.

Details on request. LOTS AND LOTS of details.

giles

Yes, I would really appreciate the details. This is very disheartening
to hear. A truly great fishery could have seen its hayday.

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On Nov 25, 12:57*am, (GreyFox) wrote:
Sidestepping the irony inherent in concerns about Great Lakes ecology
based on the presumed fact that the steelhead fishin' ain't what she
used ta be.....

The Great Lakes of North America are well and truly ****ed. *And there
ain't no end in sight.

Details on request. *LOTS AND LOTS of details.

giles

Yes, I would really appreciate the details. This is very disheartening
to hear. A truly great fishery could have seen its hayday.

"Could have" suggests that "truly great fishery" refers to Pacific
salmon species and steelhead. If so, you don't need details.....you
need someone to explain to you what "disease" means.

g.
has anybody seen cassandra around lately?