Fishing - what to buy?

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this is my first post on this ng so hello

i'm looking to buy a new beach caster and reel I've got £140 to spend what
ones would anyone recommend?

and should i buy a fixed spool or multiplier reel

as you can probably guess I'm new to this

cheers
mick b

In article , mick barnard
wrote:
this is my first post on this ng so hello

Hi,

i'm looking to buy a new beach caster and reel I've got £140 to spend what
ones would anyone recommend?

Hold on a moment:

Where will you (usually) fish?

Western Surf? NE Rock Gullies? Harbour? Estuary? Shingle Bank?

....and when? Daylight in summer is very different from winter dark.

....and what for? Conger/dabs/wrasse?

What is your (approx) build and age? Tackle suitable for a husky twenty
something might be quite unsuitable for an older chap with a touch of
arthritis or a youngster who doesn't yet have the skeletal development.

and should i buy a fixed spool or multiplier reel

Depends partly on the above and partly on how often you will fish - a
multiplier is generally considered nicer to use but not a good idea unless
you will use it often enough to keep in practice.

as you can probably guess I'm new to this

Come on in the water's, er, um, damp.

Give us a few more clues and I'm sure someone here will be able to help.

Cheerio,

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blimey i didn't realise it was so involved, here goes

fishing mainly on the south coast so maybe the last 3 in your list but i
don't mind trying anywere,probably during the day and into the evening.

and for what? what ever i can get

age 35
build 6'5" 15 1/2stn physicaly fit with no aches or pains

In article , mick barnard
wrote:
blimey i didn't realise it was so involved, here goes

fishing mainly on the south coast so maybe the last 3 in your list but i
don't mind trying anywere,probably during the day and into the evening.

and for what? what ever i can get

age 35
build 6'5" 15 1/2stn physicaly fit with no aches or pains

OK, no physical constraints then except that your hands might be a little
large comfortably to handle some smaller, high performance reels. Try them
in the shop and bear in mind your fingers will become stiff when cold and
wet.

However on the SC there is not a lot of call for beachcasting gear except
maybe in the winter months (if it ever gets cold enough for cod/whiting/pout
again) or for a bit of congering on the IOW or Dorset rocks.

I'll leave your actual question to locals - but point out that I'd expect to
get more with a carp/bass rod and light fixed spool reel or baitcasting
multiplier. I'd be fishing plugs, spinners and freelined crab/whole fish
baits for bass and 1-2oz class leads with worm baits for flatties, -light-
floats for gar, mackerel, maybe wrasse and yes, bass and flatties.

While you're enjoying this light fishing keep your eyes open and watch for
others catching bigger fish. There are a few places where beachcasting will
pay off but not actually very many.

Hth, Cheerio,

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ok i did have the wrong end of the stick

any recomendations on the make and model of rod and reel to buy,i'll
probably go for a bass rod and a baitcasting multiplier like you say.

what sort of plugs and spinners work best i'm not close to coast but there
are a couple of fishing shops near me raisons in north camp farnborough
hants and yately angling in erm yately hants, raisons do sell sea gear quite
a few rods and reels but both mainly sell fresh water stuff. Is it ok to use
plugs and spinners intended for pike and other fresh water fish?

one other thing what size hooks wil i need for the others?

sorry for all the questions and thanks for your time

thanks very much
mick b

"Derek.Moody" wrote in message
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In article , mick barnard
wrote:
blimey i didn't realise it was so involved, here goes

fishing mainly on the south coast so maybe the last 3 in your list but i
don't mind trying anywere,probably during the day and into the evening.

and for what? what ever i can get

age 35
build 6'5" 15 1/2stn physicaly fit with no aches or pains

OK, no physical constraints then except that your hands might be a little
large comfortably to handle some smaller, high performance reels. Try
them
in the shop and bear in mind your fingers will become stiff when cold and
wet.

However on the SC there is not a lot of call for beachcasting gear except
maybe in the winter months (if it ever gets cold enough for
cod/whiting/pout
again) or for a bit of congering on the IOW or Dorset rocks.

I'll leave your actual question to locals - but point out that I'd expect
to
get more with a carp/bass rod and light fixed spool reel or baitcasting
multiplier. I'd be fishing plugs, spinners and freelined crab/whole fish
baits for bass and 1-2oz class leads with worm baits for flatties, -light-
floats for gar, mackerel, maybe wrasse and yes, bass and flatties.

While you're enjoying this light fishing keep your eyes open and watch for
others catching bigger fish. There are a few places where beachcasting
will
pay off but not actually very many.

Hth, Cheerio,

--

In article , mick barnard
wrote:
ok i did have the wrong end of the stick

any recomendations on the make and model of rod and reel to buy,i'll

Any old last-year's-model stiffish carp rod will do for a start. Likewise
for the reel, buy cheap this year so that you don't mind abusing it in rough
places - you'll catch more fish that way and next year you can replace it
with better quality gear in the light of experience. Use about 12lb bs line.

probably go for a bass rod and a baitcasting multiplier like you say.

what sort of plugs and spinners work best i'm not close to coast but there
are a couple of fishing shops near me raisons in north camp farnborough
hants and yately angling in erm yately hants, raisons do sell sea gear quite
a few rods and reels but both mainly sell fresh water stuff. Is it ok to use
plugs and spinners intended for pike and other fresh water fish?

Yes. You don't need the wire traces though (unless you take the same gear
pike fishing later on) Long thin floating plugs are extremely useful,
Rapala J12 or larger, choose silvery ones to start with plus a couple of
black ones if you intend to fish in the dark.

A few larger Mepps or similar blade spinners will be useful for
mackerel/scad/pollock and similar shoaling fish. Maybe a dexter or two if
you have to fish at long range though most of your bass will come no more
than two rodlengths out in knee deep water. Twenty yards is a loooong cast
when plugging.

Get a sharpening stone, some spare treble hooks and some splitrings then you
can re-arm any lures that get damaged.

one other thing what size hooks wil i need for the others?

Freelineing whole calimari, joey mackerel or large fillets of wrasse will
need something around #6/0 (fine wire). For peeler-crab baits a
short-shanked #4/0 is about right. Worm fishing for flatties, wrasse and
baitfish needs something about a #4 and floatfishing for gar, mackerel and
so on around 1 - 1/0.

Until the holiday season finishes you will do best in the last two hours of
daylight and the first hour of dark and likewise in the last hour of night
and first two hours of the morning.

Cheerio,

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On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 22:24:36 GMT, "mick barnard"
wrote:

blimey i didn't realise it was so involved, here goes

fishing mainly on the south coast so maybe the last 3 in your list but i
don't mind trying anywere,probably during the day and into the evening.

and for what? what ever i can get

age 35
build 6'5" 15 1/2stn physicaly fit with no aches or pains

Check you mail mick.

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"mick barnard" wrote in message
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Hi Mick,

I think Derek is trying to make life difficult......fishing is supposed to
be fun!!
Buy one of the Abu Garcia 11" 6" Enticer bass rods now on offer at £25 and a
fixed spool reel for another £20........go fishing and ENJOY.
Why does everyone seem to think you need to win the lottery to go sea
fishing nowadays.

Regards,
Brian.