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Fox hunt ban Efeect on coarse fishing
Not that I am a fan of Fox Hunting but now the anti hunt brigade have go
their way. What's next? Protesters are like freedom fighters once they have felt the frill of victory many will look for a new cause. So what's next in line. Fishing for sport! It may be a difficult argument to defend Fishing against the same arguments used by the anti hunting campaigners. Sparky |
Fox hunt ban Efeect on coarse fishing
Exactly the problem I foresee. Where does it stop?
Is keeping a pet cruel? Surely it should be let roam free in its natural environment, anything less is almost certainly animal cruelty. Whenever I see these anti-hunts/anti-vivisection etc people protesting on the streets, they always seem to have a mangy old dog with them - why is that ?! Matt. "Sparky AKA_Sparkticus" wrote in message ... Not that I am a fan of Fox Hunting but now the anti hunt brigade have go their way. What's next? Protesters are like freedom fighters once they have felt the frill of victory many will look for a new cause. So what's next in line. Fishing for sport! It may be a difficult argument to defend Fishing against the same arguments used by the anti hunting campaigners. Sparky |
Fox hunt ban Efeect on coarse fishing
Exactly the problem I foresee. Where does it stop?
Is keeping a pet cruel? Surely it should be let roam free in its natural environment, anything less is almost certainly animal cruelty. Whenever I see these anti-hunts/anti-vivisection etc people protesting on the streets, they always seem to have a mangy old dog with them - why is that ?! Matt. "Sparky AKA_Sparkticus" wrote in message ... Not that I am a fan of Fox Hunting but now the anti hunt brigade have go their way. What's next? Protesters are like freedom fighters once they have felt the frill of victory many will look for a new cause. So what's next in line. Fishing for sport! It may be a difficult argument to defend Fishing against the same arguments used by the anti hunting campaigners. Sparky |
Fox hunt ban Efeect on coarse fishing
The antis will not bother with fishermen
most off us carry knives!!! My dogs not mangy thou They have mangy dogs as most of then are pikies Most dogs would not survive if left to roam free, and who will pick up there poo! I think the anti's should go after bird keepers :) "Matthew Maddock" wrote in message . uk... Exactly the problem I foresee. Where does it stop? Is keeping a pet cruel? Surely it should be let roam free in its natural environment, anything less is almost certainly animal cruelty. Whenever I see these anti-hunts/anti-vivisection etc people protesting on the streets, they always seem to have a mangy old dog with them - why is that ?! Matt. "Sparky AKA_Sparkticus" wrote in message ... Not that I am a fan of Fox Hunting but now the anti hunt brigade have go their way. What's next? Protesters are like freedom fighters once they have felt the frill of victory many will look for a new cause. So what's next in line. Fishing for sport! It may be a difficult argument to defend Fishing against the same arguments used by the anti hunting campaigners. Sparky |
Fox hunt ban Efeect on coarse fishing
Mind after listening to all the political after vote discussions, I realise
i was mistaken the issue was not Poor ole fox's but lets stick to the poshies. So us fishermen & women ( I know of two) have liltle to worry about. I can't see the red Flag wavers going for ****ing on the working class. But I would be very worried if The Cons get the vote next time round (revenge being a dish best served cold)... Sparky |
Fox hunt ban Efeect on coarse fishing
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Fox hunt ban Efeect on coarse fishing
Sparky AKA_Sparkticus wrote:
:: Mind after listening to all the political after vote discussions, :: I realise i was mistaken the issue was not Poor ole fox's but lets :: stick to the poshies. :: The antis don't give a flying fook about foxes - just as many, if not more will die after this ban - they are interested in class war, and getting one over on the lords and ladies. :: :: So us fishermen & women ( I know of two) have liltle to worry :: about. I can't see the red Flag wavers going for ****ing on the :: working class. :: Believe it...this piece of legislation is a 'test case' if you like, the floodgates are well and truly flung wide open now. :: But I would be very worried if The Cons get the vote next time :: round (revenge being a dish best served cold)... :: :: Sparky It won't make a difference who gets the vote, just look at the undemocratic way this piece of legislation was brought in...Tony tells his cohorts which way to vote and they all have to go along with it or get the chop...if this is democracy, I'll show my arse....votes of this nature should be secret IE, no one knows who has voted for or against - at least 80% would have voted against, if they had a choice. |
Fox hunt ban Efeect on coarse fishing
In article , Phil L
wrote: Sparky AKA_Sparkticus wrote: :: Mind after listening to all the political after vote discussions, :: I realise i was mistaken the issue was not Poor ole fox's but lets :: stick to the poshies. :: The antis don't give a flying fook about foxes - just as many, if not more will die after this ban - they are interested in class war, and getting one over on the lords and ladies. Ironically very few of the left's imagined targets will be affected. Those with money will merely holiday in Ireland, France, the USA or one of the many other countries where hunting with hounds continues. (We still get hunting tourists coming here to experience hunting English style but that little industry will die too.) Outside a day's drive from London the bulk of hunters are relatively low-income types who might otherwise have been expected to be Labour voters. (A hunt subscription costs about as much as a football season ticket.) Even if you are one of the relatively few that ride to hounds rather than following on foot a horse doesn't cost a great deal to keep -if- you have access to grazing (notice how many little girls keep a pony on pocket money even in cities.) :: So us fishermen & women ( I know of two) have liltle to worry I know several - though they tend to be game & sea fishers. :: about. I can't see the red Flag wavers going for ****ing on the :: working class. I don't think they know who they are affecting. By far the greater numbers of hunters and shooters are working class. Anglers, if anything, include a greater proportion of middle and upper classes. The great thing about all the field sports is that once you have the basics the lord, the bank manager and the dustman are pretty much equal and meet on equal terms though they probably don't know each other's backgrounds. Believe it...this piece of legislation is a 'test case' if you like, the floodgates are well and truly flung wide open now. It is. The antis are delighted. They have this one through on misinformation and predjudice. Now, using it as a precedent they can attack all sorts of other targets that were previously too hard to crack - ie. us. :: But I would be very worried if The Cons get the vote next time :: round (revenge being a dish best served cold)... I sincerely hope the Conservatives are elected next time. I want to be able to fish undisturbed for the rest of my life. I don't hunt btw, though I know several who do and I'm very glad we haven't, so far, been harrassed the way they have. It won't make a difference who gets the vote, just look at the undemocratic way this piece of legislation was brought in...Tony tells his cohorts which way to vote and they all have to go along with it or get the chop...if this He didn't tell them. He knew it would be trouble but he couldn't stop it so he played with the timing. IF it passes or bypasses the Lords as is, it will take effect in the new year. The proverbial will hit the fan just as we hit the run-up to the next general election. Teflon Tony doesn't want hounds and horses being shot or handed over to the RSPCA who will also have to kill them (they make lousy pets) just as he's asking for your vote. He doesn't want farmers dumping dumping dead or dying livestock at the same time. (The hunts take 'fallen' stock for nothing and dispose of it legally and hygenically. The alternative government scheme isn't running properly yet and costs a lot more than the animal is worth. It is no longer legal to bury livestock on the farm. Deadstock cannot be trasported to an incinerator except by a licenced hazardous waste transporter who must take special precautions, the incinerator will charge.) So alongside the bill is another to delay it's implementation for two years. The delay cannot be made part of the hunting bill itself or it wouldn't be possible to bypass the Lords. The delay puts all these unpleasant scenes safely into the next parliament when the PM hopes to smother them beneath other pressing news. The delay doesn't affect hare coursing btw: But then the bulk of hare coursing is already illegal - the antis never seem to tangle with the city-based coursing gangs that break gates and trespass on farmland to 'try' their dogs. Cheerio, -- |
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