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dodge September 28th, 2004 08:51 PM

Carp rods for barbel fishing
 
Can you use carp for barbel fishing as i use fox alarrms nightfishing dont
need bite indication via quivers

What is the difference between a carp and barbel rod



Alex September 28th, 2004 09:28 PM

Carp rods for barbel fishing
 

"dodge" wrote in message
...
Can you use carp for barbel fishing as i use fox alarrms nightfishing
dont
need bite indication via quivers

What is the difference between a carp and barbel rod

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The manufactures description label.




Alex September 28th, 2004 09:28 PM

Carp rods for barbel fishing
 

"dodge" wrote in message
...
Can you use carp for barbel fishing as i use fox alarrms nightfishing
dont
need bite indication via quivers

What is the difference between a carp and barbel rod

---------------------------------------------------------
The manufactures description label.




Alex September 28th, 2004 09:45 PM

Carp rods for barbel fishing
 

"dodge" wrote in message
...
Can you use carp for barbel fishing as i use fox alarrms nightfishing
dont
need bite indication via quivers

What is the difference between a carp and barbel rod

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On a more serious note.
You can catch carp and barbel on a match rod.
so is a match rod a carp rod?
A rod sold as a barbel rod would be around 11ft to 12ft long, with a test
curve of 1.1/4lb to 1.1/2lb. This rod is perfect for carp.
On the other hand Anglers that fish for carp in excess of 40lb, cast
weights in excess of 2oz to the margins 100yds across on the other side of
the lakes they are fishing. They use rods and reels that could double up as
beachcasters.
They could! walk round the other side and use a match rod.
What really determines a rod is how you are going to use it. The
manufactures would have you believe that you need a rod for every fish.




Alex September 28th, 2004 09:45 PM

Carp rods for barbel fishing
 

"dodge" wrote in message
...
Can you use carp for barbel fishing as i use fox alarrms nightfishing
dont
need bite indication via quivers

What is the difference between a carp and barbel rod

-------------------------------------------
On a more serious note.
You can catch carp and barbel on a match rod.
so is a match rod a carp rod?
A rod sold as a barbel rod would be around 11ft to 12ft long, with a test
curve of 1.1/4lb to 1.1/2lb. This rod is perfect for carp.
On the other hand Anglers that fish for carp in excess of 40lb, cast
weights in excess of 2oz to the margins 100yds across on the other side of
the lakes they are fishing. They use rods and reels that could double up as
beachcasters.
They could! walk round the other side and use a match rod.
What really determines a rod is how you are going to use it. The
manufactures would have you believe that you need a rod for every fish.




UFO September 28th, 2004 09:51 PM

Carp rods for barbel fishing
 
Yes you can use a carp rod

The difference is just the test curve
Barbel rods are usualy 1.5-1.75
Carp are 2.0 and up

Usualy when a barbel bites you rod will go mad
I use a bite alarm


"Alex" wrote in message
...

"dodge" wrote in message
...
Can you use carp for barbel fishing as i use fox alarrms nightfishing
dont
need bite indication via quivers

What is the difference between a carp and barbel rod

---------------------------------------------------------
The manufactures description label.






Steve Walker September 28th, 2004 11:49 PM

Carp rods for barbel fishing
 
In message , Alex
writes

What really determines a rod is how you are going to use it. The
manufactures would have you believe that you need a rod for every fish.


This is true. I (along with half the coarse angling population) have a
John Wilson avon/quiver and a 13ft match rod which cover about 95% of my
fishing. The rest of the time, I'm on the pole or spinning. I've a light
match-picker style quiver rod which I hardly ever use now.

The JW is very versatile, I've used it for chub, barbel, tench, light
carping, general feeder fishing on stillwaters and rivers, float fishing
in the sea for wrasse and pollock, anything too demanding for the match
rod.

It's too short and stiff to cast a light waggler well, and 6lb line is
about tops, so it won't stop a determined double figure carp near snags,
but it's definitely the most versatile bit of kit I've owned.

--
Steve Walker

Peter Cliff September 29th, 2004 11:01 AM

Carp rods for barbel fishing
 

To turn your question the other way round, I have recently been doing a
lot of fishing for tench using my Grauvell Barbel Bionic rod. I have
been picking up a lot of 'nuisance' carp and found it great for handling
fish to over 25lbs - action right through the rod when you need it,
tough when the fish get a head of steam up yet supple enough when you
need to be delicate. Great for all sorts of specimen fishing!


In message , dodge
writes
Can you use carp for barbel fishing as i use fox alarrms nightfishing dont
need bite indication via quivers

What is the difference between a carp and barbel rod



--
Peter Cliff
Fisheries.co.uk


David Rogers September 30th, 2004 02:18 PM

Carp rods for barbel fishing
 
Peter Cliff wrote in message ...
To turn your question the other way round, I have recently been doing a
lot of fishing for tench using my Grauvell Barbel Bionic rod. I have
been picking up a lot of 'nuisance' carp and found it great for handling
fish to over 25lbs - action right through the rod when you need it,
tough when the fish get a head of steam up yet supple enough when you
need to be delicate. Great for all sorts of specimen fishing!


So in fact anglers are now re-discovering what Dick Walker knew in the
1950/60's - that a well-designed one-and-a-half pound test curve,
through-actioned rod will cope with most things. I remember a letter
published in David Hall's "Coarse Fisherman" magazine in the 70s,
complaining that too many specialist rods were being produced (did
Terry Eustace start the trend?), with names like the "Meat Mauler"!
The writer was quite happy with the rods he bought from Woolworths.
And I'm still happily using a Winfield "Stillwater Leger" rod that I
bought for about £7 in 1978. Comes back to the old saying about most
floats/lures/flies etc being designed primarily to catch anglers...
Dave Rogers

[email protected] October 5th, 2004 01:54 PM

Carp rods for barbel fishing
 
Hi,
Where you fishing m8, because this will make all the difference.
I use 2.25 TC older style Carp rods, fairly soft with a through action,
before this I used a 1.75 TC "Barbel" rod this was just not quite enough to
stop the fish disappearing under the nearest snag, also felt unbalanced when
using higher weight to hold bottom or my carp rods (2.75 TC) but these were
to OTT for me and removed the pleasure.
This said I do fish the Trent (both tidal and non-tidal) so can get fairly
extreme some days especially flowing at 220m3/sec as it was early last
month.
The difference in Barbel and carp rods is in the test curve as a rule Barbel
rods go to 1.75 carp start at 2.25 however most newer carp rods seem to be
more distance than action orientated so there is very little choice of
quality 2.25lb TC carp rods available. That's why I got some older s/h Nash
Dictators Daiwa made ones when I decided to get some.

However there are a couple of multi top Barbel rods coming out (so I hear)
that will have a 1.75, 2 and 2.25 top section with a slightly more powerful
butt section these may well be worth a look.

Have fun, also just one thing Barbel unlike Carp take a long time to recover
after being caught due to the build up of lactic acid so please give them
plenty of time to recover (2 mins for every min taken during the fight,
landing and weighting process is the minimum) and don't let them trick you
into thinking there OK any earlier. I witnessed 3 fish go belly up past me
(one I managed to catch in my landing net and allowed it to recover) when I
asked the people fishing above me what was going on they said quote "they
were ok when we put um back".


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