Are Hunters psycho's??
 

The NRA, and various hunting groups are adamantly against John Kerry
because he is anti assault weapons. How many hunters are psycho
enough to want to hunt a deer with a assault weapon? In the oct issue
of Field And Stream, the group "vote your sport" says "The truth is
that John Kerry has voted against your gun and Hunting rights over 50
Times in 20 years". When has he ever voted against hunting rights?
Unless psycho hunters think shooting 50 bullets into a deer or bird in
rapid succession is a right of hunters.

George Bush's choice for the position of undersecretary for natural
resources and the environement was Mark Rey.
Mark Rey was also keynote speaker for the "alliance for America".
What is that organizations stance regarding the environment?
""Our goal is to destroy, to eradicate the environmental movement. We
want to be able to exploit the environment for private gain,
absolutely." Ron Arnold, founder, Alliance for America."

How has George Bush's Secretary of the Interior treated lands that
could be used as wilderness for hunting and fishing?
His Secretary of the Interior has declared that not another inch of
land will be added to Wilderness.

Are Hunters psycho's??
 

On 5 Oct 2004 13:26:10 -0700, (katie star)
wrote:

The NRA, and various hunting groups are adamantly against John Kerry
because he is anti assault weapons. How many hunters are psycho
enough to want to hunt a deer with a assault weapon? In the oct issue
of Field And Stream, the group "vote your sport" says "The truth is
that John Kerry has voted against your gun and Hunting rights over 50
Times in 20 years". When has he ever voted against hunting rights?
Unless psycho hunters think shooting 50 bullets into a deer or bird in
rapid succession is a right of hunters.

George Bush's choice for the position of undersecretary for natural
resources and the environement was Mark Rey.
Mark Rey was also keynote speaker for the "alliance for America".
What is that organizations stance regarding the environment?
""Our goal is to destroy, to eradicate the environmental movement. We
want to be able to exploit the environment for private gain,
absolutely." Ron Arnold, founder, Alliance for America."

How has George Bush's Secretary of the Interior treated lands that
could be used as wilderness for hunting and fishing?
His Secretary of the Interior has declared that not another inch of
land will be added to Wilderness.


No hunters aren't. All the ones that I know well are voting for Kerry.
(Of course they're all Democrats too, which helps.)


g.c.

Are Hunters psycho's??
 

I'm a hunter and owner of several guns. I wouldn't vote for Bush if you
pointed an assult weapon at my head and insisted ( won't happen this year,
but four more like the last four and ? ), partly BECAUSE I'm a hunter and
value thoughtful environmental policy.

The basic Republican platform doesn't offer much to anyone except the
extremely rich. Unfortunately for them, there aren't enough very rich
people to elect anyone, SO, they artfully woo one issue "knee jerk voters."
The NRA voter is a perfect example. I used to be a member, and I used to
train dogs for a NRA lobbiest. But they have so far stepped over the bounds
of reason that I consider them a THREAT to my guns now, "bad eggs" always
eventually ruin things for the majority and the NRA is now so extreme as to
be a bad egg. My lobbiest customer went elsewhere when I made it clear I
felt that voting for Bush because NRA says to is an incredibly stupid thing
for an outdoorsman to do.

The Reps have tacked on several other knee jerk groups ... none big enough,
alone, to matter that much, but combined a huge number of exceedingly
mindless and one-sided people ...like Bush himself, on their particular
"issue" they are "always right" and never question themselves. Scary group
of alliances, scary leader.

Are Hunters psycho's??
 

I'm a hunter and owner of several guns. I wouldn't vote for Bush if you
pointed an assult weapon at my head and insisted ( won't happen this year,
but four more like the last four and ? ), partly BECAUSE I'm a hunter and
value thoughtful environmental policy

Well then, can you explain to me why so many outdoor types support
Bush? It mystifies me.

vince

Are Hunters psycho's??
 

Fully automatic weapons are very useful when shooting deer on the run.

john
"katie star" wrote in message
om...
The NRA, and various hunting groups are adamantly against John Kerry
because he is anti assault weapons. How many hunters are psycho
enough to want to hunt a deer with a assault weapon? In the oct issue
of Field And Stream, the group "vote your sport" says "The truth is
that John Kerry has voted against your gun and Hunting rights over 50
Times in 20 years". When has he ever voted against hunting rights?
Unless psycho hunters think shooting 50 bullets into a deer or bird in
rapid succession is a right of hunters.

George Bush's choice for the position of undersecretary for natural
resources and the environement was Mark Rey.
Mark Rey was also keynote speaker for the "alliance for America".
What is that organizations stance regarding the environment?
""Our goal is to destroy, to eradicate the environmental movement. We
want to be able to exploit the environment for private gain,
absolutely." Ron Arnold, founder, Alliance for America."

How has George Bush's Secretary of the Interior treated lands that
could be used as wilderness for hunting and fishing?
His Secretary of the Interior has declared that not another inch of
land will be added to Wilderness.

Are Hunters psycho's??
 

On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 12:48:37 GMT, "asadi...."
wrote:

Fully automatic weapons are very useful when shooting deer on the run.

john

Believe it or not I heard them being used a couple times back when I
used to hunt deer. I always still hunted, usually with my back up
against a tree. The feel of 24" of hardwood protecting my spinal
column was a good one.

g.c.

"katie star" wrote in message
. com...
The NRA, and various hunting groups are adamantly against John Kerry
because he is anti assault weapons. How many hunters are psycho
enough to want to hunt a deer with a assault weapon? In the oct issue
of Field And Stream, the group "vote your sport" says "The truth is
that John Kerry has voted against your gun and Hunting rights over 50
Times in 20 years". When has he ever voted against hunting rights?
Unless psycho hunters think shooting 50 bullets into a deer or bird in
rapid succession is a right of hunters.

George Bush's choice for the position of undersecretary for natural
resources and the environement was Mark Rey.
Mark Rey was also keynote speaker for the "alliance for America".
What is that organizations stance regarding the environment?
""Our goal is to destroy, to eradicate the environmental movement. We
want to be able to exploit the environment for private gain,
absolutely." Ron Arnold, founder, Alliance for America."

How has George Bush's Secretary of the Interior treated lands that
could be used as wilderness for hunting and fishing?
His Secretary of the Interior has declared that not another inch of
land will be added to Wilderness.

Are Hunters psycho's??
 

"vincent p. norris" wrote in message
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I'm a hunter and owner of several guns. I wouldn't vote for Bush if you
pointed an assult weapon at my head and insisted ( won't happen this year,
but four more like the last four and ? ), partly BECAUSE I'm a hunter and
value thoughtful environmental policy

Well then, can you explain to me why so many outdoor types support
Bush? It mystifies me.

Probably for the same reasons that many 'environmentalists' support the Wise
Use political standpoint. They start attacking their own protectors,
accusing them of being the enemy. These outdoors types think that
environmental groups are actually harming their interests by trying to keep
them out of the environment, and supporting Bush will make more of the
wilderness accessible to them, therefore Bush = good, Environmentalists =
bad.

Check out http://www.cdfe.org/wiseuse.htm to read how Orwellian things have
become. You end up actally thinking that the Sierra Club is evil, and that
opening up Wilderness areas to developement and the public is good.

--riverman

Are Hunters psycho's??
 

"George Cleveland" wrote in message
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On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 12:48:37 GMT, "asadi...."
wrote:

Fully automatic weapons are very useful when shooting deer on the run.

john

Believe it or not I heard them being used a couple times back when I
used to hunt deer. I always still hunted, usually with my back up
against a tree. The feel of 24" of hardwood protecting my spinal
column was a good one.

g.c.



The hell with hunting...fully automatic weapons are a blast just to fire. In
fact, just having a powerful gun in hand has a certain thrill to it. Ask
anyone who has ever gone shooting with friends, or trained for special
forces or the military. Its not for everybody, but it definately is a real
thrill for many. The times I've done it, I've really enjoyed it. I was in a
3-sided sand pit, with ear protection, open visibility of everyone else, and
we were very careful. The guns came out of locked cases, were registered,
and the owners knew what they were doing.

I find it strange that many who oppose any restrictive gun laws are
reluctant to just say "Hey, its a lot of fun, and I want to do it because it
IS a lot of fun!" Its their strange evasion through half-truths or dogmatism
that makes me feel uncomfortable. When someone says "I need to defend myself
from burgulars" or "It's my constitutional right" I get uncomfortable; their
rationale just doesn't seem to hold up (Like anyone *truly* lives somewhere
that dangerous, or they care about defending any OTHER constitutional rights
they may or may not have).

But when they say "Hey, I really like the feeling of firing an AK47. As long
as its legal, I'm going to do it and defend my right to do it." I have to
respect their honesty and admit it IS a real thrill! And when someone is
that honest and realistic about it, I feel more comfortable that they'll be
responsible and keep a trigger lock on it, keep it stored at their rod & gun
club, and protect it carefully. Those folks, I feel can be trusted with
guns, and I support their right to have them; military automatic weapons and
all.

But when someone claims, with wide open eyes and straight face, that they
actually need this thing to defend themselves or their constitutional
integrity, or that they need to be more heavily armed than the local
national guard 'just in case', the first thing I want to do is get them the
hell away from that gun!! I don't even trust those folks with a hunting
shotgun or a .22! Funny thing; these are the very people that it is hardest
to get them away from.

Out of their 'cold dead hands....'. God, what garbage!!!!

--riverman

Are Hunters psycho's??
 

"vincent p. norris" wrote

Well then, can you explain to me why so many outdoor types support
Bush? It mystifies me.



mystifies me too .....

Before the last election I was chatting with a client that had a nice
Chesapeake Bay Retriever I was training, a man with whom I had hunted a
couple times. He mentioned that he had decided to vote for Bush. I said
something to the effect of "But, Dale, Gore is a much stronger supporter of
the environment."

Dale replied, "Yeah I like Gore better for most things, but I want to keep
my guns." That, is a grade A, classic, "one issue ... knee jerk"

Are Hunters psycho's??
 

"Sarge" wrote

Saddamm could have avoid this war by just
proving he got rid of known stock piles. Even the latest reports still do
not prove they were destroyed only that no where found.

I'm worried, I don't think I'll be able to prove to my wife that I don't
have Pamela Anderson and Britney Spears in my cubicle.