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hermit December 27th, 2003 02:27 PM

Importance of ballbearings
 
Just how important is the number of ball bearings in baitcasting and
spinning reels. In doing research for a new baitcaster I find the
more bearings the more expensive, but then again I have found 3+1
bearings in $150 reels. Specifically I am refering to the Daiwa CV-X
just to name one

Also would appreciate reel recommendations in the $150 to $200 range -
preferebly round baitcasters.

Thanks,

Dick

Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers December 27th, 2003 03:04 PM

Importance of ballbearings
 

"hermit" wrote in message ...
Just how important is the number of ball bearings in baitcasting and
spinning reels. In doing research for a new baitcaster I find the
more bearings the more expensive, but then again I have found 3+1
bearings in $150 reels. Specifically I am refering to the Daiwa CV-X
just to name one

Also would appreciate reel recommendations in the $150 to $200 range -
preferebly round baitcasters.


Hi Dick,

Typically, the more ball bearings in a reel, the smoother and more durable the reel will be. But,
that has to be tempered with the knowledge that not all ball bearings are equal. Some reels have
"mega ball bearings", however the bearings in question are cheap and of poor quality, reducing these
reels to junk in a relatively short time. You also have to look at the location of the bearings.
Is it really going to help the overall smoothness and durability of the reel if the handle knobs
have bearings? No, so going on numbers of bearings isn't always a clue either.

With that being said, the Shimano Calcutta is a good reel and probably fits in your price range.
The Corsair isn't necessarily the greatest reel and I would avoid them, I've owned a couple and have
had some problems. While not necessarily new and flashy, the Abu Garcia Ambassaduer 4600/5500C
series of reels have proven to be very durable and long-lasting. Some of the 5500's that I own are
over 15 years old and still hauling in fish.

I prefer low profile reels and cannot say enough good things about the Shimano Curado, which is the
ultimate quality (for the money) reel on the market. I also have the Shimano Chronarch reel that is
smooth as a bank vault. Another reel that I intend on trying in the coming year is the Okuma Nitryx
reel, another round reel. I've heard good things about Okuma reels and with a price around $70,
they might be a great value.
--
Steve
OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



SHRED© December 27th, 2003 03:07 PM

Importance of ballbearings
 
hermit wrote:
Just how important is the number of ball bearings in baitcasting and
spinning reels. In doing research for a new baitcaster I find the
more bearings the more expensive, but then again I have found 3+1
bearings in $150 reels. Specifically I am refering to the Daiwa CV-X
just to name one

Also would appreciate reel recommendations in the $150 to $200 range -
preferebly round baitcasters.

Thanks,

Dick


Get any of these:

Shimano Scorpion 1000(Japan) or Curado(USA) series(low profile)($110-150
range)

Shimano Calcutta(USA) series(round profile)($150-200)

The ultimate, of course, being the Calcutta Conquest(Japan)
series($300-$350)



RichZ December 27th, 2003 06:15 PM

Importance of ballbearings
 
I have access to all the reels. The one I found myself reaching for first
last year was a medium price range ABU Torno.


RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing


Steve Erwin December 27th, 2003 10:00 PM

Importance of ballbearings
 
Rich, are the Torno's holding up well? I wanted to go to a low profile and
wasn't going to spend $ on Shimanos. Like Abu's better. My 5000's and 5500's
have been going for over 15 years and a couple over 20 and I have 4600 C3's
that are great. I look at the Shimano's as the SUV's cause it's the "in"
thing. Don't get me wrong, they are incredibly good reels but since everyone
has raved on em the prices have gone outrageous just like you used to be
able to buy a truck as cheap or slightly higher than a car. Now everyone
owns trucks and SUV's and the prices on those are outright ridiculous. I
wished all the yuppies would go back to buying cars so poor boys like me
could afford a truck. And yes I have to have a truck to get down the county
and farm roads I live on. :)

"RichZ" wrote in message
...
I have access to all the reels. The one I found myself reaching for first
last year was a medium price range ABU Torno.


RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing




Charles B. Summers December 28th, 2003 03:02 AM

Importance of ballbearings
 
Great explaination there Steve!

--
Charles Summers
Secret Weapon Lures
http://www.secretweaponlures.com
"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in message
...

Hi Dick,

Typically, the more ball bearings in a reel, the smoother and more durable

the reel will be. But,
that has to be tempered with the knowledge that not all ball bearings are

equal. Some reels have
"mega ball bearings", however the bearings in question are cheap and of

poor quality, reducing these
reels to junk in a relatively short time. You also have to look at the

location of the bearings.
Is it really going to help the overall smoothness and durability of the

reel if the handle knobs
have bearings? No, so going on numbers of bearings isn't always a clue

either.




RichZ December 28th, 2003 06:40 AM

Importance of ballbearings
 
Steve wrote:
are the Torno's holding up well?


The finish (IE paint) has worn off the top, but mechanically, yes, the reel
still feels and sounds like it did a year-and-a-half ago.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing


Huck Palmatier December 28th, 2003 10:56 AM

Importance of ballbearings
 
....check out the Abu Garcia Morrum series. My favorite round reels, for what
it's worth. said Huck

"hermit" wrote in message
...
Just how important is the number of ball bearings in baitcasting and
spinning reels. In doing research for a new baitcaster I find the
more bearings the more expensive, but then again I have found 3+1
bearings in $150 reels. Specifically I am refering to the Daiwa CV-X
just to name one

Also would appreciate reel recommendations in the $150 to $200 range -
preferebly round baitcasters.

Thanks,

Dick




mhood December 29th, 2003 02:52 PM

Importance of ballbearings
 
Might the Conquest 200 be the best baitcaster made? What do you think
SHRED? What G.Loomis rod would you consider appropriate for the 200?

mhood

"SHRED©" wrote:

The ultimate, of course, being the Calcutta Conquest(Japan)
series($300-$350)



SHRED© December 30th, 2003 02:13 AM

Importance of ballbearings
 
mhood wrote:
Might the Conquest 200 be the best baitcaster made? What do you think
SHRED? What G.Loomis rod would you consider appropriate for the 200?


Yes the Conquest series leaves others in the dust..IMHO :)

I have my 200 on an older Daiwa Heartland-Z 6'11" MH
(dark purple blank). I throw Carolina rigs, spinnerbaits and t-rigs.
That 200's drag is so smooth and it is so much fun it feels illegal!

Find what you would use it for and choose. With a G Loomis you can't go
wrong.
I don't own one but I do have 2 Shimano V-Rods that are just as good.

hope this helps---TL--SHRED



mhood

"SHRED©" wrote:

The ultimate, of course, being the Calcutta Conquest(Japan)
series($300-$350)





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