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Wayne Knight November 1st, 2004 08:38 PM

OT-600 Million Dollars
 
I have read from a couple of sources that the advertising in this
year's presidential contests have exceeded a combined $600 Million.
This to get a job that will pay $1.6 Million + decent benefits (private
use of 747 to start with and having traffic stopped and moved out of
your way whenever you decide to drive to taco bell).

Granted 600 mill would be a drop in the bucket to the deficit but this
is money that does not improve any sector of the economy other than
advertising and radio/tv/newspaper networks. And since those networks
are businesses run for a profit, they sure the hell are not going to
make long term committments to increase employment know the well dries
11/3/04.

It does not become capital for factory startups.
It does not become money for a new businesses and job creations.
It does not lessen the burden on the working poor.
It does not become available for infra-structure improvements.
It does not finance new homes or provide for the rehabilition of older
homes.
It does not provide benefits to the military.
It does not fund research into disease fighting protocols.
It does not fund one new teacher or one new school.

Some will say the funds came from Donations, so what? If the donations
had not been made the money would still be sitting in a bank or
investment account somewhere being used as working capital through
loans or equity.

This is why Tim's everyman cannot become president. do you really think
either party would let a Harry Truman be their lead candidate in the
current environment?
Somehow we have to change this process.


Sorry for the rant.


Larry L November 1st, 2004 09:04 PM

OT-600 Million Dollars
 

"Wayne Knight" wrote

Somehow we have to change this process.




That is the main thing I've learned from this year too .... the system is
broken

Campaign finance reform and "instant run off voting" that would make third
parties more meaningful, if not more likely to win, would both make major
improvements, imho.



Larry L November 1st, 2004 09:04 PM

OT-600 Million Dollars
 

"Wayne Knight" wrote

Somehow we have to change this process.




That is the main thing I've learned from this year too .... the system is
broken

Campaign finance reform and "instant run off voting" that would make third
parties more meaningful, if not more likely to win, would both make major
improvements, imho.



Larry L November 1st, 2004 09:04 PM

OT-600 Million Dollars
 

"Wayne Knight" wrote

Somehow we have to change this process.




That is the main thing I've learned from this year too .... the system is
broken

Campaign finance reform and "instant run off voting" that would make third
parties more meaningful, if not more likely to win, would both make major
improvements, imho.



pmfpa November 1st, 2004 09:23 PM

OT-600 Million Dollars
 
True enough. The main purpose of the excessive advertising is to counter
what the other guy said. It is no longer about getting a message out. It
is a classic arms race of money.

In Pennsylvania, it is unrelenting. As important as the election is, it
will be good to finish it to make the ads stop. In every commercial break
there are now countering ads from each side, and even more.

Having said all that, maybe we could cap what each side can spend, but
limiting the 527s and individuals is likely difficult.

"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
ups.com...
I have read from a couple of sources that the advertising in this
year's presidential contests have exceeded a combined $600 Million.
This to get a job that will pay $1.6 Million + decent benefits (private
use of 747 to start with and having traffic stopped and moved out of
your way whenever you decide to drive to taco bell).

Granted 600 mill would be a drop in the bucket to the deficit but this
is money that does not improve any sector of the economy other than
advertising and radio/tv/newspaper networks. And since those networks
are businesses run for a profit, they sure the hell are not going to
make long term committments to increase employment know the well dries
11/3/04.

It does not become capital for factory startups.
It does not become money for a new businesses and job creations.
It does not lessen the burden on the working poor.
It does not become available for infra-structure improvements.
It does not finance new homes or provide for the rehabilition of older
homes.
It does not provide benefits to the military.
It does not fund research into disease fighting protocols.
It does not fund one new teacher or one new school.

Some will say the funds came from Donations, so what? If the donations
had not been made the money would still be sitting in a bank or
investment account somewhere being used as working capital through
loans or equity.

This is why Tim's everyman cannot become president. do you really think
either party would let a Harry Truman be their lead candidate in the
current environment?
Somehow we have to change this process.


Sorry for the rant.




pmfpa November 1st, 2004 09:23 PM

OT-600 Million Dollars
 
True enough. The main purpose of the excessive advertising is to counter
what the other guy said. It is no longer about getting a message out. It
is a classic arms race of money.

In Pennsylvania, it is unrelenting. As important as the election is, it
will be good to finish it to make the ads stop. In every commercial break
there are now countering ads from each side, and even more.

Having said all that, maybe we could cap what each side can spend, but
limiting the 527s and individuals is likely difficult.

"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
ups.com...
I have read from a couple of sources that the advertising in this
year's presidential contests have exceeded a combined $600 Million.
This to get a job that will pay $1.6 Million + decent benefits (private
use of 747 to start with and having traffic stopped and moved out of
your way whenever you decide to drive to taco bell).

Granted 600 mill would be a drop in the bucket to the deficit but this
is money that does not improve any sector of the economy other than
advertising and radio/tv/newspaper networks. And since those networks
are businesses run for a profit, they sure the hell are not going to
make long term committments to increase employment know the well dries
11/3/04.

It does not become capital for factory startups.
It does not become money for a new businesses and job creations.
It does not lessen the burden on the working poor.
It does not become available for infra-structure improvements.
It does not finance new homes or provide for the rehabilition of older
homes.
It does not provide benefits to the military.
It does not fund research into disease fighting protocols.
It does not fund one new teacher or one new school.

Some will say the funds came from Donations, so what? If the donations
had not been made the money would still be sitting in a bank or
investment account somewhere being used as working capital through
loans or equity.

This is why Tim's everyman cannot become president. do you really think
either party would let a Harry Truman be their lead candidate in the
current environment?
Somehow we have to change this process.


Sorry for the rant.




Jim November 1st, 2004 09:53 PM

OT-600 Million Dollars
 
"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
ups.com...
I have read from a couple of sources that the advertising in this
year's presidential contests have exceeded a combined $600 Million.
This to get a job that will pay $1.6 Million + decent benefits (private
use of 747 to start with and having traffic stopped and moved out of
your way whenever you decide to drive to taco bell).


Yeah, with a .05% return on investment, I have often thought anybody willing
to spend the money necessary to get elected in most political contests
doesn't have the sense to do the job required of them!

Jim Ray
And does anybody believe we'll know who "won" the election anytime this
week?



Jim November 1st, 2004 09:53 PM

OT-600 Million Dollars
 
"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
ups.com...
I have read from a couple of sources that the advertising in this
year's presidential contests have exceeded a combined $600 Million.
This to get a job that will pay $1.6 Million + decent benefits (private
use of 747 to start with and having traffic stopped and moved out of
your way whenever you decide to drive to taco bell).


Yeah, with a .05% return on investment, I have often thought anybody willing
to spend the money necessary to get elected in most political contests
doesn't have the sense to do the job required of them!

Jim Ray
And does anybody believe we'll know who "won" the election anytime this
week?



Jim November 1st, 2004 09:53 PM

OT-600 Million Dollars
 
"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
ups.com...
I have read from a couple of sources that the advertising in this
year's presidential contests have exceeded a combined $600 Million.
This to get a job that will pay $1.6 Million + decent benefits (private
use of 747 to start with and having traffic stopped and moved out of
your way whenever you decide to drive to taco bell).


Yeah, with a .05% return on investment, I have often thought anybody willing
to spend the money necessary to get elected in most political contests
doesn't have the sense to do the job required of them!

Jim Ray
And does anybody believe we'll know who "won" the election anytime this
week?



rw November 1st, 2004 10:23 PM

OT-600 Million Dollars
 
pmfpa wrote:

In Pennsylvania, it is unrelenting. As important as the election is, it
will be good to finish it to make the ads stop. In every commercial break
there are now countering ads from each side, and even more.


In the words of GWB, just turn on the off button.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.


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