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Bob La Londe November 19th, 2004 02:09 PM

Largemouth Bass - Non-Native
 
Just curious. Where exactly are LMs a truly native species. In Arizona
they were introduced in 1897 according to the Arizona Game & Fish Dept.

http://www.gf.state.az.us/h_f/fish_l...uth_bass.shtml

Description
Non-native. Introduced in 1897. Very large mouth with upper jaw of adults
extending beyond rear margin of eye. Dark olive-green on the back with green
sides shading to white belly. Dark horizontal band on each side. Deep notch
in dorsal fin. Soft dorsal fin usually has 12 to 13 rays. Length: 10 to 28
inches. Weight: 8 ounces to over 15 pounds.


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BassBks November 19th, 2004 05:50 PM

Largemouth Bass - Non-Native
 
From: "Bob La Londe"
Date: 11/19/2004 6:09 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

Just curious. Where exactly are LMs a truly native species.


Hi Bob -- I checked Robbins and MacCrimmon"s "The Blackbass in America and
Overseas" on you question. In some cases they were only native in part of a
state, sometimes a small part, but here are the states when they say LMB are
native.

Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky,
Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, New York,
North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota,
Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginaia and Wisconsin.



Bob La Londe November 19th, 2004 07:18 PM

Largemouth Bass - Non-Native
 
"BassBks" wrote in message
...
From: "Bob La Londe"
Date: 11/19/2004 6:09 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

Just curious. Where exactly are LMs a truly native species.


Hi Bob -- I checked Robbins and MacCrimmon"s "The Blackbass in America and
Overseas" on you question. In some cases they were only native in part of

a
state, sometimes a small part, but here are the states when they say LMB

are
native.

Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas,

Kentucky,
Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, New York,
North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South

Dakota,
Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginaia and Wisconsin.


Thanks, that matches what I found on a couple of the different state DNR
websites. Basically they said they were native atleast in part to most of
the USA east of the Rocky Mountains.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com




go-bassn November 19th, 2004 10:51 PM

Largemouth Bass - Non-Native
 
I'm suprised NJ isn't on that list Clyde, since surrounding PA & NY are &
the habitat there is awesome.

Warren

"BassBks" wrote in message
...
From: "Bob La Londe"
Date: 11/19/2004 6:09 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

Just curious. Where exactly are LMs a truly native species.


Hi Bob -- I checked Robbins and MacCrimmon"s "The Blackbass in America and
Overseas" on you question. In some cases they were only native in part of

a
state, sometimes a small part, but here are the states when they say LMB

are
native.

Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas,

Kentucky,
Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, New York,
North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South

Dakota,
Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginaia and Wisconsin.





BassBks November 19th, 2004 11:14 PM

Largemouth Bass - Non-Native
 
From: "go-bassn"
Date: 11/19/2004 2:51 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

I'm suprised NJ isn't on that list Clyde, since surrounding PA & NY are &
the habitat there is awesome.


PA and NY were both States where the book listed both native and introduced.
"The species is native to the upper Ohio River drainage in Western New York,
western Pennsylvania, Ohio, Western Virginia and possibly a small part of
extreme Western Maryland." This book is really the only thing ever published
on Black Bass world wide. Unfortunately it was published in 1974 and there
have been many changes in the Bass world since then. It still is one of my
favorite bass books of all time.

Clyde

Todd Copeland November 19th, 2004 11:16 PM

Largemouth Bass - Non-Native
 
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
Just curious. Where exactly are LMs a truly native species. In Arizona
they were introduced in 1897 according to the Arizona Game & Fish Dept.


It really depends. But you can easily tell by the basses accent.



steve wolk November 19th, 2004 11:22 PM

Largemouth Bass - Non-Native
 
Lord knows you're the foremost authority on bass books Clyde, thanks. Thier
presence in the Western part of both stateswould explain thier absense in
NJ.

Have Great Holidays My Friend, those patches you sent me yearsago are still
treasured parts of my collection.

Best Regards,
Warren (go-bass)

"BassBks" wrote in message
...
From: "go-bassn"
Date: 11/19/2004 2:51 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

I'm suprised NJ isn't on that list Clyde, since surrounding PA & NY are &
the habitat there is awesome.


PA and NY were both States where the book listed both native and

introduced.
"The species is native to the upper Ohio River drainage in Western New

York,
western Pennsylvania, Ohio, Western Virginia and possibly a small part of
extreme Western Maryland." This book is really the only thing ever

published
on Black Bass world wide. Unfortunately it was published in 1974 and

there
have been many changes in the Bass world since then. It still is one of

my
favorite bass books of all time.

Clyde




RichZ November 20th, 2004 02:45 AM

Largemouth Bass - Non-Native
 
Bob La Londe wrote:
Basically they said they were native atleast in part to most of
the USA east of the Rocky Mountains.


East of the Mississippi and west of the Hudson, for the most part.



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