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DMC embroidery floss is worth looking at for tying tiny flies

I saw the idea in a midges book a year ago, but just got around to stopping
at a crafts shop.

Comes in a huge variety of colors, and a single ply of the 5 ply thread is
certainly small enough to body a 24 or 26 hook ... and it's cheap, I got 10
colors for about $5

If you fish tailwaters where midge lava and pupa are very important ...
check this stuff out I'm also going to try using it on 22 baetis ties, I
think I can get a neater body than with dubbing and better color than just
tying thread

What is the thread size compared to standard guderbrod threads? is it strong
and small enought to be used on those tiny POS 22's through 26's.
I have a bunch hooks but get scared everytime I think about tying on them.
I do need jewelers glasses to tie..I wuold hope the DMC would be an
effective alternate to current threads. but I know the flies produce more
than can be imagined when in view of trout.. Did I get off track/ That is
typical until i am on the tying vise. Too much Tawny Port. I will fervantly
shop Michaels tomorrow morning for DMC.
Thank you,
Guy
Anyone for a trip to Colorado tonight?

"Larry L" wrote in message
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DMC embroidery floss is worth looking at for tying tiny flies

I saw the idea in a midges book a year ago, but just got around to
stopping
at a crafts shop.

Comes in a huge variety of colors, and a single ply of the 5 ply thread is
certainly small enough to body a 24 or 26 hook ... and it's cheap, I got
10
colors for about $5

If you fish tailwaters where midge lava and pupa are very important ...
check this stuff out I'm also going to try using it on 22 baetis ties,
I
think I can get a neater body than with dubbing and better color than just
tying thread

"Guy Thornberg" wrote

What is the thread size compared to standard guderbrod threads? is it
strong
and small enought to be used on those tiny POS 22's through 26's.

it is cotton and not strong .... I don't see it as an alternative tying
thread .... rather using it a little like chenille as a body material

I've tied a few 24s with it since my first post ... using Uni 8-0 to tie in
two different colors ( 1 ply each ) then wrapping them together to form a
very nice looking ( even under a magnifier) segmented midge body. Snip off
one and the tying thread, then half hitch the other ( darker ?) color
several times to form a head ... cement ( I used Dave's Flexament)

This is not my idea, I got it from "Midge Magic" .... I book I bad mouthed
to a degree when I first read it ( I still don't think we need 100 different
midge patterns each very slightly different in color), ... but I am
pleasantly surprised at how nice the DMC works for this, after all.

"Guy Thornberg" wrote in message
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What is the thread size compared to standard guderbrod threads? is it
strong
and small enought to be used on those tiny POS 22's through 26's.
I have a bunch hooks but get scared everytime I think about tying on them.
I do need jewelers glasses to tie..I wuold hope the DMC would be an
effective alternate to current threads. but I know the flies produce more
than can be imagined when in view of trout.. Did I get off track/ That is
typical until i am on the tying vise. Too much Tawny Port. I will
fervantly
shop Michaels tomorrow morning for DMC.
Thank you,
Guy
Anyone for a trip to Colorado tonight?

"Larry L" wrote in message
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DMC embroidery floss is worth looking at for tying tiny flies

(snip)

Hi Larry and Guy,

DMC is a cotton based and comes in 8.7 yard sections for the small packages.
It is twisted with 6 smaller strands.
It is said to be color fast, but you need to put each color in water to know
what the final product will look like when you are fishing. ( I usually do
this all the time when I'm using materials for tying . . .just rinse a small
piece in the sink)
For example . . . color 611 . . .which is a tannish brown turns much darker
when it hits water.
For you folks in other parts of the world, it is produced in France. Don't
know what the product name may be over there.

I have used some of the nylon threads (craft or sewing stores) for some of
the small stuff the San Juan guys use.
(think 300 yards of thread for about $3.50-4.00 or so) I still do the water
test, but the current tannish color I seem to use a lot seems to hold the
color pretty well. (Conso 745 #69)
Do that down to size 22 mostly . . .sometimes size 24, depending on the
hook.

For Guy: Ya better bring your long Johns if coming here this weekend.
Winter Storm here. Not bad here in Denver yet . . .but the upper elevations
are going to get a bunch, I'm told. Skiers are loving it.

For all: The craft/sewing store stuff comes up from time to time. You
have to take a look at it. Sometimes the fly shop is the way to go. (there
are some good folks out there that care . . .and there are others) One of
the ROFF guys, Frank Reid, has a Mrs. involved in quilting and things. If
you have a significant other who likes that stuff, including just sewing up
stuff to fix things for the kids, accompany that significant other to a
sewing/quilting/yarn/craft place. You'll find some surprising fly tying
things . . .and you'll "maybe" be considered much more "sensitive" to the
interests of your significant other. (but then again . . . maybe not)
BestWishes,
DaveMohnsen
Denver

For all: The craft/sewing store stuff comes up from time to time. You
have to take a look at it. Sometimes the fly shop is the way to go. (there
are some good folks out there that care . . .and there are others) One of
the ROFF guys, Frank Reid, has a Mrs. involved in quilting and things. If
you have a significant other who likes that stuff, including just sewing up
stuff to fix things for the kids, accompany that significant other to a
sewing/quilting/yarn/craft place. You'll find some surprising fly tying
things . . .and you'll "maybe" be considered much more "sensitive" to the
interests of your significant other. (but then again . . . maybe not)

Yeh, its fun going to the fabric and crafts store. Things that I buy:

Organza - cut a narrow rectangle of this and tie it on as wings using a
figure 8 wrap. Tease out the weft of the fabric leaving the long
fibres. Instant spinner wings. Two dollars will get you enough for a
lifetime.
Fau suede: cut a small fish shape, tie it to a hook and it moves
wonderfully through the water.
Ottlite: If you don't have one for tying, get one. Sign up for the
mailing list at your local Joanns fabrics. They will occasionally send
out a 50% coupon.
Raffia: plastic raffia is called for as a shell back in many patterns.
They sell it as ribbon.
Batting: this is used to stuff quilts and pillows. You can get silk or
wool at some of the bigger shops. A little goes a long way to making
your own dubbing.
Yarns:
1) Eyelash - This is yarn with 1 to 1 1/2" strings coming off of it.
Thousands of colors, most are varigated. I see this as the next
revolution in spey flies. Simply wind on the hook and tie off. Many
have a sparkle material spun in.
2) Chennille - use this for many patterns including Frank's Fighting
Craw and bug bodies. $2.50 will get enough of one color for a couple of
thousand flies.
3) Wool - slubby (yarn that is not smooth) yarn can be wrapped around a
hook and tease out with velcro to produce legs or gills where needed.
Foam - 1/3 the cost of a fly tying store and 3 times the number of colors
Fingernails: glow in the dark plastic fingernails are cheap after
Halloween. They make a wonderful fly that you can find in your back
issues of Fly Tyer magazine.
Scissors: half the price of a fly store and you can find good ones that
will last for years.
Beading boxes: boxes to hold beads for bead work are awesome for storing
your hooks. The double seal type will hold a size 26 hook without
letting it jump to the size 24 bin next to it.
Pens: great pens to color your flies. I make white usuals and carry a
few pens with me when I go fishing. Check the hatch and mark up my flies.
Thread: silk thread and floss are much cheaper and the range of colors
is astounding.
Angelina fib available at some stores and online, this stuff puts the
sparkle in any dubbing. You can also mix it with other furs, iron it
between two pieces of brown paper bag, and it will make awesome wing and
carapace material.
By the way, when you buy fabrics. They will cut small pieces (1/8 or
1/16th of a yard) at most stores. So with something like the Fau suede
that is 40 bucks a yard, you buy 5 dollars worth with an 1/8 of a yard.
This is just a hint at some of the things you can find in there.
--
Frank Reid
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Guy wrote:snip I will fervantly
shop Michaels tomorrow morning for DMC.
Thank you,
Guy

You might stop by Harbour Feight in Richardson and pick up some of those
cheaters glasses you wear to help in seeing for tying those little bugs.

Big Dale

"DaveMohnsen" wrote in
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It is said to be color fast, but you need to put each color in water
to know what the final product will look like when you are fishing. (
I usually do this all the time when I'm using materials for tying . .
.just rinse a small piece in the sink)
For example . . . color 611 . . .which is a tannish brown turns much
darker when it hits water.

It's real important to use light tying thread under this type of floss.

Scott

Hey Big Dale,
I know & I will. Do the Harbour Freight cheaters have a wide field of
vision?
I have the 3 power flip downs that are OK on the river but are hard to use
when wrapping and tying. Jack had a pair of small focals resting in front of
his sunglasses that I should have asked him about bit did not. They looked
interesting.
Guy

"Big Dale" wrote in message
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Guy wrote:snip I will fervantly
shop Michaels tomorrow morning for DMC.
Thank you,
Guy

You might stop by Harbour Feight in Richardson and pick up some of those
cheaters glasses you wear to help in seeing for tying those little bugs.

Big Dale