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Josh January 20th, 2004 04:26 PM

Locktight - NO !
 
Hello all,
A few months ago I got some good advice here. Well it sounded damned
good to me at the time lol., but thought I'd post a warning now. My problem
was that the handle lock screw that holds the handle on my new Diawa
Capricorn Spinning reels kept loosening up. Every two hours or so I had to
tighten them back up. Someone recommended Lock Tight and that sounded like
a perfectly good idea to me. Fact recall saying to myself "well dummy why
didn't you think of that?"

In any event a few weeks later I applied the lock tight to the shaft of
the handle lock screw and waited about 24 hours. It worked perfectly. The
rest of the season the lock screws never loosend up again. This weekend
however I was cleaing my reels. Wasn't even attempting to loosen that screw
up when all of a sudden the plastic cap on the screw lock broke in half. As
did every cap on all four other reels the min. I touched touched them.
Acccccccccccccck.. From a function standpoint the screw lock is in place ok,
but asthetically not a good idea. Thought I'd warn ya'll to keep lock tight
away from any plastic parts because it appears to severely weaken the
plastic.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear



Calif Bill January 21st, 2004 03:38 AM

Locktight - NO !
 
Check out different Locktite products. Some are OK with plastic. We used
to use the weld sealant for mounting ballbearings in a check sorter. Worked
better than some of the other locking compounds.
Bill

"Josh" wrote in message
...
Hello all,
A few months ago I got some good advice here. Well it sounded damned
good to me at the time lol., but thought I'd post a warning now. My

problem
was that the handle lock screw that holds the handle on my new Diawa
Capricorn Spinning reels kept loosening up. Every two hours or so I had to
tighten them back up. Someone recommended Lock Tight and that sounded

like
a perfectly good idea to me. Fact recall saying to myself "well dummy why
didn't you think of that?"

In any event a few weeks later I applied the lock tight to the shaft

of
the handle lock screw and waited about 24 hours. It worked perfectly. The
rest of the season the lock screws never loosend up again. This weekend
however I was cleaing my reels. Wasn't even attempting to loosen that

screw
up when all of a sudden the plastic cap on the screw lock broke in half.

As
did every cap on all four other reels the min. I touched touched them.
Acccccccccccccck.. From a function standpoint the screw lock is in place

ok,
but asthetically not a good idea. Thought I'd warn ya'll to keep lock

tight
away from any plastic parts because it appears to severely weaken the
plastic.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear





SimRacer January 21st, 2004 05:05 PM

Locktight - NO !
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...
Check out different Locktite products. Some are OK with plastic. We used
to use the weld sealant for mounting ballbearings in a check sorter.

Worked
better than some of the other locking compounds.
Bill


I agree, that you have to be diligent when looking at products today to make
sure they work with plastics, fiberglass and other composites.

I spent a full day calling local marine repair places when I was upgrading
LCDs on my aluminum bass boat and wanted to be DARN sure the sealant I was
looking at was ok for metal hulls and not just fiberglass. All turned out
ok, but I've had experiences similar to yours and am very cautious everytime
out now as a result.

My question would be did it really weaken the plastic or did you use too
strong a compound and the plastic just gave up the ghost as you tried to
remove them. If they broke easily then I agree, the chemicals in the LT
likely adversely affected the plastic. If not, just look for a weaker
compound next time as they make varying levels of it.

Just out of curiousity, what color compund did you use? Hopefully not red or
blue (IIRC) as I think they'd be too much. Do they still make the weaker but
still effective green compound? (Hoping the color references are correct, I
never can keep all the Lock Tite colors/strengths straight in the noodle)



Bob La Londe January 21st, 2004 07:56 PM

Locktight - NO !
 
"SimRacer" -spam wrote in message
r.com...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...
Check out different Locktite products. Some are OK with plastic. We

used
to use the weld sealant for mounting ballbearings in a check sorter.

Worked
better than some of the other locking compounds.
Bill


I agree, that you have to be diligent when looking at products today to

make
sure they work with plastics, fiberglass and other composites.

I spent a full day calling local marine repair places when I was upgrading
LCDs on my aluminum bass boat and wanted to be DARN sure the sealant I was
looking at was ok for metal hulls and not just fiberglass. All turned out
ok, but I've had experiences similar to yours and am very cautious

everytime
out now as a result.

My question would be did it really weaken the plastic or did you use too
strong a compound and the plastic just gave up the ghost as you tried to
remove them. If they broke easily then I agree, the chemicals in the LT
likely adversely affected the plastic. If not, just look for a weaker
compound next time as they make varying levels of it.

Just out of curiousity, what color compund did you use? Hopefully not red

or
blue (IIRC) as I think they'd be too much. Do they still make the weaker

but
still effective green compound?


NO. Not green. I'm pretty sure green is the sleeve locker. Its one of
their strongest adhesives. Purple is the one for small fasteners.



(Hoping the color references are correct, I
never can keep all the Lock Tite colors/strengths straight in the noodle)




--
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SimRacer January 21st, 2004 08:12 PM

Locktight - NO !
 

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
t...
"SimRacer" -spam wrote in message
r.com...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...
Check out different Locktite products. Some are OK with plastic. We

used
to use the weld sealant for mounting ballbearings in a check sorter.

Worked
better than some of the other locking compounds.
Bill


I agree, that you have to be diligent when looking at products today to

make
sure they work with plastics, fiberglass and other composites.

I spent a full day calling local marine repair places when I was

upgrading
LCDs on my aluminum bass boat and wanted to be DARN sure the sealant I

was
looking at was ok for metal hulls and not just fiberglass. All turned

out
ok, but I've had experiences similar to yours and am very cautious

everytime
out now as a result.

My question would be did it really weaken the plastic or did you use too
strong a compound and the plastic just gave up the ghost as you tried to
remove them. If they broke easily then I agree, the chemicals in the LT
likely adversely affected the plastic. If not, just look for a weaker
compound next time as they make varying levels of it.

Just out of curiousity, what color compund did you use? Hopefully not

red
or
blue (IIRC) as I think they'd be too much. Do they still make the weaker

but
still effective green compound?


NO. Not green. I'm pretty sure green is the sleeve locker. Its one of
their strongest adhesives. Purple is the one for small fasteners.



(Hoping the color references are correct, I
never can keep all the Lock Tite colors/strengths straight in the

noodle)



See, I told ya I couldn't keep them straight. I always verify the strength
of the stuff with someone who knows prior to getting or using it. Purple
sounds right, of course so did green a couple of hours ago! LOL!



Josh January 22nd, 2004 01:37 AM

Locktight - NO !
 
Sim.. dunno but I didn't try to remove the handle lock screw at all. Just
broke in my hand as I was handling the reel. Don't remember the color.
didn't know there was more than one anyway.. just a dumb move on my part
lol.


--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear




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