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QUAKEnSHAKE February 9th, 2004 05:40 AM

Characteristics of a "deadsticking" rod?
 

While looking through the bps catalog saw a rod that is said to be a
"deadsticking" rod. So what would this rod be like? A fast or slow
action? Would it bend throughout the whole rod or just like from the tip
in about 1/3.
The little explanation says it - runs long and has a lighter tip
section.
Any ideas ? Thanks.


Moe Conway February 9th, 2004 10:51 AM

Characteristics of a "deadsticking" rod?
 
While looking through the bps catalog saw a rod that is said to be a
"deadsticking" rod. So what would this rod be like? A fast or slow
action?


The little explanation says it - runs long and has a lighter tip
section.
Any ideas ?


Since you are deadsticking, this implies that you are imparting no action to
the bait. Most deadstick bites are detected by line movement.Therefore, you
could deadstick with a baseball bat. Calling it a deadstick rod just makes no
sense at all. Just another way to get your money.
--
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no
trade-in value.
Good Fishing - Moe
Moe's Guide Service (Lake Okeechobee) - http://moebassguide.com
Outdoor Frontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com/index



Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers February 9th, 2004 02:07 PM

Characteristics of a "deadsticking" rod?
 

"QUAKEnSHAKE" wrote in message
...

While looking through the bps catalog saw a rod that is said to be a
"deadsticking" rod. So what would this rod be like? A fast or slow
action? Would it bend throughout the whole rod or just like from the tip
in about 1/3.
The little explanation says it - runs long and has a lighter tip
section.
Any ideas ? Thanks.


Quite often, especially in the coldwater, spring walleye run, I will
deadstick a rod while actively working a jig/minnow or splitshot rig.

For deadsticking, I have a 9' noodle rod with a slow to moderate action.
Because the rod sits in a holder, and I'm not keeping 100% of my attention
on it, it's nice to have this soft action.

This way, a fish can grab the bait and begin to swim off, but the soft
action of the rod doesn't immediately put heavy pressure on the fish. Quite
often, I see the rod tip start to dip down, and can grab the rod from the
holder before the fish feels the rod.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
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Eric Ryder February 9th, 2004 03:28 PM

Characteristics of a "deadsticking" rod?
 

"QUAKEnSHAKE" wrote in message
...

While looking through the bps catalog saw a rod that is said to be a
"deadsticking" rod. So what would this rod be like? A fast or slow
action? Would it bend throughout the whole rod or just like from the tip
in about 1/3.
The little explanation says it - runs long and has a lighter tip
section.
Any ideas ? Thanks.


I deadstick soft plastics A LOT. IME, the key requirements are a light
action tip (so you have a better chance of feeling the fish when you pick
the bait up, rather than alerting it) and high modulus graphite to transmit
the feel.

My theory is that bass have a sensitivity threshold relating to soft plastic
baits. If you exceed that threshold, the bass will spit the bait
immediately. When moving a bottom-fished worm, etc I "weigh" it. If it
feels improper for the bottom/cover composition, I go into hookset mode -
otherwise hop/drag/shake as normal. That threshold definitely varies day to
day - we've all had outings where you get exactly one indication that
there's a fish down there - then nothing!

With no/low weighted baits, the applied pressure required to weigh the bait
vs. cause an undesirable more is miniscule. Decent graphite helps me keep
the bait in the strike zone, but still check for the bite regularly
regardless of wind, etc. My ideal rod (still searching) for this kind of
fishing allows tip flex to extend the "weigh" phase of the retrieve, giving
this addled brain a bit more time to react.

Thanks for reminding me how much I want to see the end of this ice cover...
Eric

http://www.winnipesaukee.com/tempcal/



Moe Conway February 10th, 2004 01:36 AM

Characteristics of a "deadsticking" rod?
 

The term "deadsticking" has taken on a new meaning in recent years. While
Moe thinks of it as casting a bait, letting it sink & sit on the bottom
motionless for an extended period of time, it now apparently includes
fishing baits with built-in action like soft stickbaits (Senkos etc). Just
a note...

Warren


You know I love Senko's and other soft baits Warren, but really, how many bites
do you "feel". Either the line moves or when you go to pick up there is weight
or something different. How can tip action make any difference on a bait you'er
not working?
--
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no
trade-in value.
Good Fishing - Moe
Moe's Guide Service (Lake Okeechobee) - http://moebassguide.com
Outdoor Frontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com/index



go-bassn February 10th, 2004 05:18 AM

Characteristics of a "deadsticking" rod?
 
I think I'd prefer a really soft tip, that way you might detect the extra
weight before actually feeling it Moe. My Senko rods have that & a whole
bunch of backbone below it.

What was the action on the rod you saw?

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/



"Moe Conway" wrote in message
...

The term "deadsticking" has taken on a new meaning in recent years.

While
Moe thinks of it as casting a bait, letting it sink & sit on the bottom
motionless for an extended period of time, it now apparently includes
fishing baits with built-in action like soft stickbaits (Senkos etc).

Just
a note...

Warren


You know I love Senko's and other soft baits Warren, but really, how many

bites
do you "feel". Either the line moves or when you go to pick up there is

weight
or something different. How can tip action make any difference on a bait

you'er
not working?
--
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no
trade-in value.
Good Fishing - Moe
Moe's Guide Service (Lake Okeechobee) - http://moebassguide.com
Outdoor Frontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com/index





QUAKEnSHAKE February 10th, 2004 03:20 PM

Characteristics of a "deadsticking" rod?
 
quote-
(Steve=A0@=A0OutdoorFrontiers)
Because the rod sits in a holder, and I'm not keeping 100% of my
attention on it, it's nice to have this soft action.
This way, a fish can grab the bait and begin to swim off, but the soft
action of the rod doesn't immediately put heavy pressure on the fish.
Quite often, I see the rod tip start to dip down, and can grab the rod
from the holder before the fish feels the rod.
--quote

Yep this is how it wil be used. Going to throw out like a Strike King 3X
finesse worm and just let it be. Plus, with the reel Im going to get
with a clicker bait alert feature I think the set-up will work out fine.
Ill ckeck out this particular rod when I go to the BPS sale event in
March near Chicago. Ill more than likely get the reel (ambassadeur C4
5600) today.



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