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spoonplugger February 7th, 2005 09:22 AM

Color C lectors
 
Was at a Garage sale today and saw one of these, does anyone still use em or
were they just a flash in the pan gizmo? the guy wanted 20 bucks for it and
I thought about it but did not buy it

Wayne



Andrew Kidd February 7th, 2005 11:48 AM

I have one, but seldom use it anymore. The color selection was based on
scientific research at University of Oklahoma by Dr. Loren Hill. He studied
the ability of fish to see colors under certain water colors and light
penetration. I found it to be very effective in picking colors, but also
found that a handful of colors would work in my area. Haven't used it in a
while...

It did help with color selection quite a bit, and helped convince me to try
red, which I still love, as well as green, blue, purple and brown.

Mine also had a PH indicator, which I still consider useless, as well as a
temp sensor, which I used all the time.

You can still buy them brand new online...
--
Andrew Kidd


"spoonplugger" wrote in message
news:orGNd.308689$8l.170145@pd7tw1no...
Was at a Garage sale today and saw one of these, does anyone still use em
or
were they just a flash in the pan gizmo? the guy wanted 20 bucks for it
and
I thought about it but did not buy it

Wayne





Bob La Londe February 7th, 2005 01:34 PM

The new color C-Selectors have a digital readout, and some guys stil swear
by them.

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"Andrew Kidd" wrote in message
news:kAINd.36892$ox3.23128@attbi_s04...
I have one, but seldom use it anymore. The color selection was based on
scientific research at University of Oklahoma by Dr. Loren Hill. He

studied
the ability of fish to see colors under certain water colors and light
penetration. I found it to be very effective in picking colors, but also
found that a handful of colors would work in my area. Haven't used it in

a
while...

It did help with color selection quite a bit, and helped convince me to

try
red, which I still love, as well as green, blue, purple and brown.

Mine also had a PH indicator, which I still consider useless, as well as

a
temp sensor, which I used all the time.

You can still buy them brand new online...
--
Andrew Kidd


"spoonplugger" wrote in message
news:orGNd.308689$8l.170145@pd7tw1no...
Was at a Garage sale today and saw one of these, does anyone still use

em
or
were they just a flash in the pan gizmo? the guy wanted 20 bucks for it
and
I thought about it but did not buy it

Wayne







Joshuall February 7th, 2005 01:53 PM

Spoon, I seem to think they work. I used to have one, but goodness knows
where it is now. I noticed in either the BP Catalog or Cabelas that there's
a new version out for arouind the same price. I think in the area of 90
bucks.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear



RichZ February 7th, 2005 11:33 PM

Some years back, I worked on a project with the Hunting & Fishing
Library, which involved, among other things, testing a bunch of them --
from brand new out of the box to units that had been used in the field
for a year. The readings, under identical conditions (with a dozen
sensors side by side in the same water) were all over the ball park.

The project ended with a 3 hour conference call that involved a dozen or
so guys, including Loren Hill himself as well as his former boss (head
of the aquatic biology dept at OK), and moderated by Dick Sternberg, who
was then heading up the H&FL, but was a fisheries biologist himself, and
had previously been the head of cool water fisheries management for MN.
Anyway, his ex boss took Hill to task for his research which he said was
incomplete and couldn't support his conclusions well enough to base a
scientific paper on it, much less build a commercial product. For my
part, I contend that even if it did work as advertised, all it would
show you is the color that bass could see best under existing
conditions, which is not necessarily the same thing as the one they are
most likely to respond positively to. Remember, most of the natural
forage a bass eats is camoflauged, and is the precise opposite of the
'most visible'. Too, most visible must include contrast with the
surroundings in the equation, which the C-lector does not.

Guy F. Anderson Sr. February 8th, 2005 01:48 AM

On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 18:33:40 -0500, RichZ
wrote:

Some years back, I worked on a project with the Hunting & Fishing
Library, which involved, among other things, testing a bunch of them --
The readings, under identical conditions (with a dozen
sensors side by side in the same water) were all over the ball park.
.....................snips..............


Pay attention to Da' Man!

As usual, Rich has put forward exactly the right, relevant, solid,
hard data into a discussion which could (and probably will) degenerate
into pure personal preference.

But ain't it fun!
Guy A
Ripley, TN

Pat Goff February 8th, 2005 03:34 AM

If you think it helps you catch more fish, then it will. You'll work your
bait better, and have more confidence.

If you think it's a bunch of hooey, then that's what it is also.


"Guy F. Anderson Sr." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 18:33:40 -0500, RichZ
wrote:

Some years back, I worked on a project with the Hunting & Fishing
Library, which involved, among other things, testing a bunch of them --
The readings, under identical conditions (with a dozen
sensors side by side in the same water) were all over the ball park.
.....................snips..............


Pay attention to Da' Man!

As usual, Rich has put forward exactly the right, relevant, solid,
hard data into a discussion which could (and probably will) degenerate
into pure personal preference.

But ain't it fun!
Guy A
Ripley, TN




Joe Haubenreich February 8th, 2005 07:23 AM

That's true. I have a combo-c-lector that I tinkered with, and it was
interesting but not particularly useful. When I tried using it, I paid less
attention to much more important variables. Anyone want a free
combo-c-lector? I haven't opened it for about eight years, after getting it
back from a trip to the repair shop. You pay the postage, and it's yours,
free.

One a related note.... I had the dubious pleasure of meeting ol' Doc Hill
this past summer. I don't know if it was his usual manner or if he was just
irritated at the time, but I was underwhemed. I spent some time doing him a
favor, and he impressed me with his towering egotism. I usually find it easy
to get along with anyone and enjoy meeting people who have made an impact on
the fishing tackle industry, but I was relieved to turn him over to his
hosts. I'm not at all surprised by his former boss's assessment.

Joe


"Pat Goff @yahoo.com" pmgoffjrbot wrote in message
...
If you think it helps you catch more fish, then it will. You'll work your
bait better, and have more confidence.

If you think it's a bunch of hooey, then that's what it is also.


"Guy F. Anderson Sr." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 18:33:40 -0500, RichZ
wrote:

Some years back, I worked on a project with the Hunting & Fishing
Library, which involved, among other things, testing a bunch of them --
The readings, under identical conditions (with a dozen
sensors side by side in the same water) were all over the ball park.
.....................snips..............


Pay attention to Da' Man!

As usual, Rich has put forward exactly the right, relevant, solid,
hard data into a discussion which could (and probably will) degenerate
into pure personal preference.

But ain't it fun!
Guy A
Ripley, TN





spoonplugger February 8th, 2005 08:25 AM

So it basically was a flash in the pan then? one of those gotta have and
never use it gadgets.
the guy that was selling it here said he used once and for 20 bucks i can
buy better gadgets...
Wayne
"Joe Haubenreich" rofbmail (at) secretweaponlures (dot) com wrote in
message ...
That's true. I have a combo-c-lector that I tinkered with, and it was
interesting but not particularly useful. When I tried using it, I paid

less
attention to much more important variables. Anyone want a free
combo-c-lector? I haven't opened it for about eight years, after getting

it
back from a trip to the repair shop. You pay the postage, and it's yours,
free.

One a related note.... I had the dubious pleasure of meeting ol' Doc Hill
this past summer. I don't know if it was his usual manner or if he was

just
irritated at the time, but I was underwhemed. I spent some time doing him

a
favor, and he impressed me with his towering egotism. I usually find it

easy
to get along with anyone and enjoy meeting people who have made an impact

on
the fishing tackle industry, but I was relieved to turn him over to his
hosts. I'm not at all surprised by his former boss's assessment.

Joe


"Pat Goff @yahoo.com" pmgoffjrbot wrote in message
...
If you think it helps you catch more fish, then it will. You'll work your
bait better, and have more confidence.

If you think it's a bunch of hooey, then that's what it is also.


"Guy F. Anderson Sr." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 18:33:40 -0500, RichZ
wrote:

Some years back, I worked on a project with the Hunting & Fishing
Library, which involved, among other things, testing a bunch of them --
The readings, under identical conditions (with a dozen
sensors side by side in the same water) were all over the ball park.
.....................snips..............


Pay attention to Da' Man!

As usual, Rich has put forward exactly the right, relevant, solid,
hard data into a discussion which could (and probably will) degenerate
into pure personal preference.

But ain't it fun!
Guy A
Ripley, TN







Pat Goff February 8th, 2005 12:51 PM

Despite the best efforts of infomercials and fish wrappers, there still is
no magic box that will unveil the secrets of the deep.

Now, this is going to stirr the hive a little...
Most and I mean 98% of all bass fishermen have no clue how to read their
sonars. What they think they see is wrong, and what they should be seeing,
they don't have a clue. I've known three guys who can turn on a sonar, spot
a feeding bass and then catch it. Three. Not thirty, not three hundred,
three. I can't, and I "thought" I had a clue.


"spoonplugger" wrote in message
news:8I_Nd.321544$8l.36728@pd7tw1no...
So it basically was a flash in the pan then? one of those gotta have and
never use it gadgets.
the guy that was selling it here said he used once and for 20 bucks i can
buy better gadgets...
Wayne
"Joe Haubenreich" rofbmail (at) secretweaponlures (dot) com wrote in
message ...
That's true. I have a combo-c-lector that I tinkered with, and it was
interesting but not particularly useful. When I tried using it, I paid

less
attention to much more important variables. Anyone want a free
combo-c-lector? I haven't opened it for about eight years, after getting

it
back from a trip to the repair shop. You pay the postage, and it's

yours,
free.

One a related note.... I had the dubious pleasure of meeting ol' Doc

Hill
this past summer. I don't know if it was his usual manner or if he was

just
irritated at the time, but I was underwhemed. I spent some time doing

him
a
favor, and he impressed me with his towering egotism. I usually find it

easy
to get along with anyone and enjoy meeting people who have made an

impact
on
the fishing tackle industry, but I was relieved to turn him over to his
hosts. I'm not at all surprised by his former boss's assessment.

Joe


"Pat Goff @yahoo.com" pmgoffjrbot wrote in message
...
If you think it helps you catch more fish, then it will. You'll work

your
bait better, and have more confidence.

If you think it's a bunch of hooey, then that's what it is also.


"Guy F. Anderson Sr." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 18:33:40 -0500, RichZ
wrote:

Some years back, I worked on a project with the Hunting & Fishing
Library, which involved, among other things, testing a bunch of

them --
The readings, under identical conditions (with a dozen
sensors side by side in the same water) were all over the ball park.
.....................snips..............

Pay attention to Da' Man!

As usual, Rich has put forward exactly the right, relevant, solid,
hard data into a discussion which could (and probably will) degenerate
into pure personal preference.

But ain't it fun!
Guy A
Ripley, TN










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