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North Star March 27th, 2005 01:31 PM

Waterboatman Pattern
 
Can anyone reccomend a link or pattern to tie up some Waterboatmen.

While removing my ice fishing shanty off the lake yesterday, I noticed
through some clear ice a Waterboatmen swimming about. I have heard that you
must be careful when you tie these not to tie something that might resemble
a Backswimmer, as these creatures sting, and trout avoid them. This will be
my first try using waterboatmen, as in the past I have gone with leach
patterns for spring ice out fishing.

Thanks in advance



Mike Connor March 27th, 2005 02:21 PM


"North Star" northstar_NOSPAM wrote in message
...
Can anyone reccomend a link or pattern to tie up some Waterboatmen.

While removing my ice fishing shanty off the lake yesterday, I noticed
through some clear ice a Waterboatmen swimming about. I have heard that

you
must be careful when you tie these not to tie something that might

resemble
a Backswimmer, as these creatures sting, and trout avoid them. This will

be
my first try using waterboatmen, as in the past I have gone with leach
patterns for spring ice out fishing.

Thanks in advance



http://www.flyanglersonline.com/feat...ope/part8.html

http://www.diptera.co.uk/patterns/patterns_list.htm

(Scroll down to "corixa").

http://creative.lauder.ac.uk/stuwebs/ali/Nymphs.htm

http://www.flyflickers.com/ff/gomain...er_boatman.htm

There are many patterns extant, but the above should cover most
eventualities.

TL
MC



DaveMohnsen March 27th, 2005 04:10 PM


"Mike Connor" wrote in message
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"North Star" northstar_NOSPAM wrote in message
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Can anyone reccomend a link or pattern to tie up some Waterboatmen.

(snip)

Mike wrote:
There are many patterns extant, but the above should cover most
eventualities.
TL
MC

Wow the word "extant". I haven't seen that word for a long time . . . uhh .
.. .but I don't get around much.
Used to do a waterboatman pattern for wholesale. I'll have to try to relook
at it, if I can find it. :)
Thanks for the links.
BestWishes,
DaveMohnsen
Denver
(but have never used the pattern myself, if I recall, except maybe to test
it on bluegills, to check durability.)




W. D. Grey March 27th, 2005 08:56 PM

In article , North Star
writes
Can anyone reccomend a link or pattern to tie up some Waterboatmen.

While removing my ice fishing shanty off the lake yesterday, I noticed
through some clear ice a Waterboatmen swimming about. I have heard that you
must be careful when you tie these not to tie something that might resemble
a Backswimmer, as these creatures sting, and trout avoid them. This will be
my first try using waterboatmen, as in the past I have gone with leach
patterns for spring ice out fishing.

Thanks in advance


be more specific if you mean Coryxa then fine. Theothe boatban which
scud over the surface isn't taken by trout as a rule.

Ask for Coryxa patterns. This a is a diving beetle which carries a
bubble of air which is often represented by a silver abdomen.
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

jackk March 28th, 2005 01:50 AM

A pattern that we use with success in lakes in the Sierra is as follows

Size 14 or 16 wet fly hook
Tie on 2 pcs of pearl crystal flash at rear of hook as a tail. two or three
times the length of the hook
Tie on a thin strip of black plastic (from a garbagge bags) at rear of hook
facing backwards. It will be pulled foreward as a shell back
Dub a bulbous tapered body. Use white, cream, tan, amber or gold dubbing or
peacock hearl.
Pull plastic foreward and tie off at hook eye
Tie in two brown or black goose biots in at eye as legs. should be at least
half the length of body and should point downwards and backwards.

You can add a gold bead at the beginning and use as one sized larger hook

Fish with a split shot and strip fast. Also can fish it as a dropper to a
dry fly

You can tell when ther are water boatmen around when it sounds as if some
one is hitting your float tube with a BB gun



"North Star" northstar_NOSPAM wrote in message
...
Can anyone reccomend a link or pattern to tie up some Waterboatmen.

While removing my ice fishing shanty off the lake yesterday, I noticed
through some clear ice a Waterboatmen swimming about. I have heard that

you
must be careful when you tie these not to tie something that might

resemble
a Backswimmer, as these creatures sting, and trout avoid them. This will

be
my first try using waterboatmen, as in the past I have gone with leach
patterns for spring ice out fishing.

Thanks in advance





W. D. Grey March 28th, 2005 06:08 PM

In article , jackk
writes
A pattern that we use with success in lakes in the Sierra is as follows

Size 14 or 16 wet fly hook
Tie on 2 pcs of pearl crystal flash at rear of hook as a tail. two or three
times the length of the hook


Can't see the need for this, but if it works I won't knock it.

Tie on a thin strip of black plastic (from a garbagge bags) at rear of hook
facing backwards. It will be pulled foreward as a shell back


Fine shell back material. cut the plastic in a sort of canoe shape, it
forms the body wing case nicely.

Dub a bulbous tapered body. Use white, cream, tan, amber or gold dubbing or
peacock hearl.


I would suggest a weighted underbody like some fine lead wire flattened,
and a bulbous body of tying thread over wrapped with flat silver ribbon.

Pull plastic foreward and tie off at hook eye
Tie in two brown or black goose biots in at eye as legs. should be at least
half the length of body and should point downwards and backwards.


Black biots should look good tied as you suggest.


The bug should be fished by allowing it to sink and tweaking it to the
surface in short jerks.

Do we agree?
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

Scott Seidman March 28th, 2005 07:02 PM

"North Star" northstar_NOSPAM wrote in
:

Can anyone reccomend a link or pattern to tie up some Waterboatmen.

While removing my ice fishing shanty off the lake yesterday, I noticed
through some clear ice a Waterboatmen swimming about. I have heard
that you must be careful when you tie these not to tie something that
might resemble a Backswimmer, as these creatures sting, and trout
avoid them. This will be my first try using waterboatmen, as in the
past I have gone with leach patterns for spring ice out fishing.

Thanks in advance




There's a pattern in this months "Fly Tyer" magazine.

Scott

Padishar Creel March 28th, 2005 09:54 PM

"North Star" northstar_NOSPAM wrote in message
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Can anyone reccomend a link or pattern to tie up some Waterboatmen.

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These creatures amaze me. I have my horse pastured no where near any
significant body of water, yet every time I clean out his watering trough,
there they be - Waterboatmen. I realize they fly but how in the hell did
they find this tiny trough in middle of nowhere...beats me...

Chris always in a constant state of awe



North Star March 28th, 2005 11:20 PM

I realize they fly but how in the hell did
they find this tiny trough in middle of nowhere...beats me...



Yeah no kidding. When I was a kid my parents put in a pool and those things
were always in there, and we were far from any significant water as well.



North Star March 28th, 2005 11:25 PM

Thanks a bunch to all who responded, I appreciate the leads, and have got
some good ideas to follow.

What wierd little creatures they are.




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