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Larry L April 2nd, 2005 10:14 PM

Biots smooth and fuzzy
 
wrapping biots I seem to have trouble consistently getting a smooth ( or
fuzzy, whichever is the goal) body, even though I've seen the info about the
notch placement to control this. Is there some other indicator ( I'm
thinking maybe the natural curve of the barb) that I can use, sometimes,
especially with turkey biots, I can't really see that 'notch" and kinda
guess.

Smooth biot help appreciated, thanks in advance



Mike Connor April 3rd, 2005 04:55 AM

"Larry L" wrote in message ...
wrapping biots I seem to have trouble consistently getting a smooth ( or
fuzzy, whichever is the goal) body, even though I've seen the info about the
notch placement to control this. Is there some other indicator ( I'm
thinking maybe the natural curve of the barb) that I can use, sometimes,
especially with turkey biots, I can't really see that 'notch" and kinda
guess.

Smooth biot help appreciated, thanks in advance



http://www.invictaflies.us/Articles/all_about_biots.htm

TL
MC

Svend Tang-Petersen April 3rd, 2005 07:39 PM

Larry L wrote:

wrapping biots I seem to have trouble consistently getting a smooth ( or
fuzzy, whichever is the goal) body, even though I've seen the info about the
notch placement to control this. Is there some other indicator ( I'm
thinking maybe the natural curve of the barb) that I can use, sometimes,
especially with turkey biots, I can't really see that 'notch" and kinda
guess.

Smooth biot help appreciated, thanks in advance


The notch is basically your indicator. Just be carefull that you dont twist the
biot on the
first wrap.


Larry L April 3rd, 2005 08:05 PM


"Svend Tang-Petersen" wrote

The notch is basically your indicator. Just be carefull that you dont
twist the
biot on the
first wrap.


I think that may pin point my failures ... thanks, I'll pay more attention
to that



Steve W April 3rd, 2005 10:50 PM

"Larry L" wrote in message news:
Smooth biot help appreciated, thanks in advance


Can't see the notch eh? Do you need some specs - magnifier?
Is it possible to feel the notch with a finger nail?

Are you cutting the biots from the stalk thus leaving the notch behind
on the quill?

Harry Mason has a terrific tute on biots at www.troutflies.com with
big pics!

I think it would be possible to work out the biot 'sides' if you knew the
side of the bird the original feather quill came from. Finding the notch
might be easier unless you have the skin.



Steve

Larry L April 3rd, 2005 11:37 PM


"Steve W" wrote

Can't see the notch eh? Do you need some specs - magnifier?
Is it possible to feel the notch with a finger nail?


It's partly a vision problem, I need more help seeing the notch on some (
not all ) biots I pull off than I need for the rest of the tying process

But I think, mainly, I'm twisting the biot on the first wrap, getting
hurried and not taking greater care



JR April 3rd, 2005 11:54 PM

Larry L wrote:

But I think, mainly, I'm twisting the biot on the first wrap, getting
hurried and not taking greater care


Larry, try Harry Mason's tip to press the biot down and around against the
hook before winding (step 5):

http://www.troutflies.com/tutorials/biot/05.shtml

It usually, though not always :(, prevents twisting.

JR

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Bones April 4th, 2005 05:51 PM

On Sun, 03 Apr 2005 19:05:06 GMT, "Larry L"
wrote:


"Svend Tang-Petersen" wrote

The notch is basically your indicator. Just be carefull that you dont
twist the
biot on the
first wrap.


I think that may pin point my failures ... thanks, I'll pay more attention
to that


Trim off the point a bit. If you look close most are already
twisted.The further up you trim the more uniform the distance between
the ridges will be when wrapped. Soak the biot a bit as well.
Harry Mason
www.troutflies.com

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