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fantom May 22nd, 2005 08:56 PM

Where do I start?
 

"Pscylo" wrote in message
...
Greetz,

I've always fancied a go at sea fishing (from beach or pier - though
beach prefereable), and as I'm little to spending qite a few weekends
away this summer in Lincs/Norfolk/Suffolk (East Anglian coast
generally), camping with the kids and wife, I wouldn't mind havcing a
go.

Trouble is, where so I start. I did once have a go at freshwater fishing
but it alway seemed a little pointless because I like eating fish, so I
have some rods, albeit old. I'm going to have to take alook and sea what
they are.

I guess I'm asking what what be a good starting point for a complete
novice, in terms of kit, can I use what I've got or are specialist rods
required. I don't really want to spend a fortune, as It may not be for
me, but I just thought it may give me something to do whe there isn't
enough surf for bodyboarding.

Any advice, website links etc most welcome. Bear in mind i proabably
won't understand fishing jargon, so keep it simple (for a simpleton!!)

--
Pscylo


Hi, try this website out....

http://www.worldseafishing.com/






Eric The Viking May 22nd, 2005 09:35 PM

Might be worth getting some Mackerel feathers and giving them a try
from the beach this summer. You will need a beachcaster rod with a
fixed spool reel and some feathers but that's about all. Alternatively
you could try float fishing for Mackerel and Garfish - a tackle shop
should be able to get you setup with the necessary floats and weights
for a few quid.

The great thing with sea fishing is you can spend as little or as much
as you want - don't let anyone tell you you need the latest and
greatest gear to catch fish - just start with the basics and expand as
you need to.


Pscylo May 23rd, 2005 09:25 AM

On 22 May 2005 13:35:05 -0700, Eric The Viking let rip with:
Might be worth getting some Mackerel feathers and giving them a try
from the beach this summer. You will need a beachcaster rod with a
fixed spool reel and some feathers but that's about all. Alternatively
you could try float fishing for Mackerel and Garfish - a tackle shop
should be able to get you setup with the necessary floats and weights
for a few quid.

The great thing with sea fishing is you can spend as little or as much
as you want - don't let anyone tell you you need the latest and
greatest gear to catch fish - just start with the basics and expand as
you need to.


Thanks.

That's pretty much what I want to do, keep it cheap and simple for a
start. Apparently I have beachcaster (well my father does), and I guess
it will have a fixed spool. I'm going to have a look later this week.

If I get the bug, I might look at freshwater fishing, but it always seemed
such a waste as generally freshwater fish don't make good eating. Around
here most would have hint of brickpit about them ;) Basically I want to
eat what I catch, and mackerel is a good start. Garfish doesn't look to
appealing, but is supposed to make good eating. Nothing ventured, nothng
gained I guess.

Am I right in saying that there is no license required for sea fishing?
--
Pscylo

Eric The Viking May 23rd, 2005 11:32 AM

Hi Pscylo,

Garfish are more of a sport fish ( on light float tackle ) - like you
said, they are supposed to be edible but a lot of people get put off by
their green bones!

Mackerel can be easy to catch on basic gear and are good to eat too -
especially if you take a disposable BBQ and cook them on the beach.
There's plenty of other good stuff to eat in the sea but most of it is
hard to catch and often requires good local knowledge of where to go,
and sometimes requires more expensive gear to catch. When I say more
expensive gear I mean that mackerel can be caught as close in as a few
yards from the shore whereas bottom feeding fish are often further out
requiring better gear to get the distances required.

You don't need a license for sea fishing.

Cheers - ETV


Pscylo May 23rd, 2005 07:16 PM

On 23 May 2005 03:32:11 -0700, Eric The Viking let rip with:
Hi Pscylo,

Garfish are more of a sport fish ( on light float tackle ) - like you
said, they are supposed to be edible but a lot of people get put off by
their green bones!


Yeah, I had relised that. To be honest I took one look at it, and though
"that ain't for eating". Monkfish look that way to me to, but they taste
damn fine, so I'll try anything once, even with green bones.


Mackerel can be easy to catch on basic gear and are good to eat too -
especially if you take a disposable BBQ and cook them on the beach.


I'll start there I think. I've barbequed them with a tamarind and spice
filling i the cavity before and it's quite pleasant. I might have a go
at making a small smoker as well.

That said, I've got to catch some first, but as far as I can tell
mackerel seem a good choice for a complete beginner like me.

There's plenty of other good stuff to eat in the sea but most of it is
hard to catch and often requires good local knowledge of where to go,
and sometimes requires more expensive gear to catch. When I say more
expensive gear I mean that mackerel can be caught as close in as a few
yards from the shore whereas bottom feeding fish are often further out
requiring better gear to get the distances required.


There's a couple of websites that list Bass, Skate, Mackerel, Whiting
and Cod as regularly available (depending on season). One assumes that
Dogfish would be there too.

When I see how far I can cast with the rod I'll be borrowing (possibly
permananently, as my father doesn't bother anymore), I'll think about
the other fish. Mackerel is good for me though, but sea bass, mmmmmm!
I think I could spare the time to learn to ctach those.

You don't need a license for sea fishing.


Excellent. I didn't want to shell out as it's not likely to be a regular
thing.
--
Pscylo

Ian Hooksem May 24th, 2005 12:07 AM

if you dont know what you are doing, then my advice - wait until you get
there and go to local tackle shop. Tell them you are a beginner, and going
to be a regular customer for the summer.
£30-£40 would give you a starter beachcaster rod and reel, probably with
line and hooks thrown in.
Lead weights will be extra - 50p to £1.50 each, mackeral feathers cost teh
same; and any bait of course.
Plus you will get all the free local advice you need - how to, where to,
when to, etc. Tackle shops LOVE helping a newby who is visiting their neck
of the woods - you represent good custome over many months.

BTW - gars are good eating - cook like mackeral
Mackeral - if you have a b b q on the beach, then forget the sauce - just
wack em on the head, gut em, and throw em on the bbq; do not overcook - no
more than1 minute each side
if you are really into culinary stuff - let a few cooked mackeral go cold,
fillet them, and make a pate! great with gooseberry sauce and ritz crackers.
Ian

"Pscylo" wrote in message
...
Greetz,

I've always fancied a go at sea fishing (from beach or pier - though
beach prefereable), and as I'm little to spending qite a few weekends
away this summer in Lincs/Norfolk/Suffolk (East Anglian coast
generally), camping with the kids and wife, I wouldn't mind havcing a
go.

Trouble is, where so I start. I did once have a go at freshwater fishing
but it alway seemed a little pointless because I like eating fish, so I
have some rods, albeit old. I'm going to have to take alook and sea what
they are.

I guess I'm asking what what be a good starting point for a complete
novice, in terms of kit, can I use what I've got or are specialist rods
required. I don't really want to spend a fortune, as It may not be for
me, but I just thought it may give me something to do whe there isn't
enough surf for bodyboarding.

Any advice, website links etc most welcome. Bear in mind i proabably
won't understand fishing jargon, so keep it simple (for a simpleton!!)

--
Pscylo




Christine Sheffield May 24th, 2005 10:08 AM

Excuse me butting in to your conversation...

Do the legal minimum sizes also apply to beach fishing?

I fish from my boat, and I always measure my fish. I bought a plastic gauge
from a tackle shop, and it came with a long list of the legal sizes. My
husband says his friend put paint marks on his rod, showing the legal
minimums for the usual fish he catches, so he doesn't have to bother with a
gauge.

I would have thought there _ought_ to be somewhere on the net, to download
updates on the legal sizes, but I haven't found it yet. Does anyone have a
link, please?

Christine

"Ian Hooksem" wrote in message
...
if you dont know what you are doing, then my advice - wait until you get
there and go to local tackle shop. Tell them you are a beginner, and going
to be a regular customer for the summer.
£30-£40 would give you a starter beachcaster rod and reel, probably with
line and hooks thrown in.
Lead weights will be extra - 50p to £1.50 each, mackeral feathers cost teh
same; and any bait of course.
Plus you will get all the free local advice you need - how to, where to,
when to, etc. Tackle shops LOVE helping a newby who is visiting their neck
of the woods - you represent good custome over many months.

BTW - gars are good eating - cook like mackeral
Mackeral - if you have a b b q on the beach, then forget the sauce - just
wack em on the head, gut em, and throw em on the bbq; do not overcook - no
more than1 minute each side
if you are really into culinary stuff - let a few cooked mackeral go cold,
fillet them, and make a pate! great with gooseberry sauce and ritz

crackers.
Ian

"Pscylo" wrote in message
...
Greetz,

I've always fancied a go at sea fishing (from beach or pier - though
beach prefereable), and as I'm little to spending qite a few weekends
away this summer in Lincs/Norfolk/Suffolk (East Anglian coast
generally), camping with the kids and wife, I wouldn't mind havcing a
go.

Trouble is, where so I start. I did once have a go at freshwater fishing
but it alway seemed a little pointless because I like eating fish, so I
have some rods, albeit old. I'm going to have to take alook and sea what
they are.

I guess I'm asking what what be a good starting point for a complete
novice, in terms of kit, can I use what I've got or are specialist rods
required. I don't really want to spend a fortune, as It may not be for
me, but I just thought it may give me something to do whe there isn't
enough surf for bodyboarding.

Any advice, website links etc most welcome. Bear in mind i proabably
won't understand fishing jargon, so keep it simple (for a simpleton!!)

--
Pscylo






Ian Hooksem May 24th, 2005 03:46 PM

beach / boat - same rules usually apply.
across the UK most people are now returning all conger, and some rays, regardless of size, to voluntarily protect the species.

this link goes to min sizes, and teh others are interesting articles.
Ian
http://www.seaangler.com/Seaangler_Min_Sizes.html

"Christine Sheffield" wrote in message .. .
Excuse me butting in to your conversation...

Do the legal minimum sizes also apply to beach fishing?

I fish from my boat, and I always measure my fish. I bought a plastic gauge
from a tackle shop, and it came with a long list of the legal sizes. My
husband says his friend put paint marks on his rod, showing the legal
minimums for the usual fish he catches, so he doesn't have to bother with a
gauge.

I would have thought there _ought_ to be somewhere on the net, to download
updates on the legal sizes, but I haven't found it yet. Does anyone have a
link, please?

Christine

"Ian Hooksem" wrote in message
...
if you dont know what you are doing, then my advice - wait until you get
there and go to local tackle shop. Tell them you are a beginner, and going
to be a regular customer for the summer.
£30-£40 would give you a starter beachcaster rod and reel, probably with
line and hooks thrown in.
Lead weights will be extra - 50p to £1.50 each, mackeral feathers cost teh
same; and any bait of course.
Plus you will get all the free local advice you need - how to, where to,
when to, etc. Tackle shops LOVE helping a newby who is visiting their neck
of the woods - you represent good custome over many months.

BTW - gars are good eating - cook like mackeral
Mackeral - if you have a b b q on the beach, then forget the sauce - just
wack em on the head, gut em, and throw em on the bbq; do not overcook - no
more than1 minute each side
if you are really into culinary stuff - let a few cooked mackeral go cold,
fillet them, and make a pate! great with gooseberry sauce and ritz

crackers.
Ian

"Pscylo" wrote in message
...
Greetz,

I've always fancied a go at sea fishing (from beach or pier - though
beach prefereable), and as I'm little to spending qite a few weekends
away this summer in Lincs/Norfolk/Suffolk (East Anglian coast
generally), camping with the kids and wife, I wouldn't mind havcing a
go.

Trouble is, where so I start. I did once have a go at freshwater fishing
but it alway seemed a little pointless because I like eating fish, so I
have some rods, albeit old. I'm going to have to take alook and sea what
they are.

I guess I'm asking what what be a good starting point for a complete
novice, in terms of kit, can I use what I've got or are specialist rods
required. I don't really want to spend a fortune, as It may not be for
me, but I just thought it may give me something to do whe there isn't
enough surf for bodyboarding.

Any advice, website links etc most welcome. Bear in mind i proabably
won't understand fishing jargon, so keep it simple (for a simpleton!!)

--
Pscylo






Richard Bird May 24th, 2005 06:55 PM

On Tue, 24 May 2005 14:46:27 GMT, "Ian Hooksem"
wrote:
I have the same type of question but froma boat. I have a small
sailing boat at Milford Haven and I would love to catch some fresh
fish . So what does one need for catching fish from asmall sailing
boat.Many thanks
Rich
beach / boat - same rules usually apply.
across the UK most people are now returning all conger, and some rays, regardless of size, to voluntarily protect the species.

this link goes to min sizes, and teh others are interesting articles.
Ian
http://www.seaangler.com/Seaangler_Min_Sizes.html

"Christine Sheffield" wrote in message .. .
Excuse me butting in to your conversation...

Do the legal minimum sizes also apply to beach fishing?

I fish from my boat, and I always measure my fish. I bought a plastic gauge
from a tackle shop, and it came with a long list of the legal sizes. My
husband says his friend put paint marks on his rod, showing the legal
minimums for the usual fish he catches, so he doesn't have to bother with a
gauge.

I would have thought there _ought_ to be somewhere on the net, to download
updates on the legal sizes, but I haven't found it yet. Does anyone have a
link, please?

Christine

"Ian Hooksem" wrote in message
...
if you dont know what you are doing, then my advice - wait until you get
there and go to local tackle shop. Tell them you are a beginner, and going
to be a regular customer for the summer.
£30-£40 would give you a starter beachcaster rod and reel, probably with
line and hooks thrown in.
Lead weights will be extra - 50p to £1.50 each, mackeral feathers cost teh
same; and any bait of course.
Plus you will get all the free local advice you need - how to, where to,
when to, etc. Tackle shops LOVE helping a newby who is visiting their neck
of the woods - you represent good custome over many months.

BTW - gars are good eating - cook like mackeral
Mackeral - if you have a b b q on the beach, then forget the sauce - just
wack em on the head, gut em, and throw em on the bbq; do not overcook - no
more than1 minute each side
if you are really into culinary stuff - let a few cooked mackeral go cold,
fillet them, and make a pate! great with gooseberry sauce and ritz

crackers.
Ian

"Pscylo" wrote in message
...
Greetz,

I've always fancied a go at sea fishing (from beach or pier - though
beach prefereable), and as I'm little to spending qite a few weekends
away this summer in Lincs/Norfolk/Suffolk (East Anglian coast
generally), camping with the kids and wife, I wouldn't mind havcing a
go.

Trouble is, where so I start. I did once have a go at freshwater fishing
but it alway seemed a little pointless because I like eating fish, so I
have some rods, albeit old. I'm going to have to take alook and sea what
they are.

I guess I'm asking what what be a good starting point for a complete
novice, in terms of kit, can I use what I've got or are specialist rods
required. I don't really want to spend a fortune, as It may not be for
me, but I just thought it may give me something to do whe there isn't
enough surf for bodyboarding.

Any advice, website links etc most welcome. Bear in mind i proabably
won't understand fishing jargon, so keep it simple (for a simpleton!!)

--
Pscylo






Christine Sheffield May 24th, 2005 10:27 PM

Thank you, Ian. I have added it to my "Favourites" for future reference.

Christine
"Ian Hooksem" wrote in message ...
beach / boat - same rules usually apply.
across the UK most people are now returning all conger, and some rays, regardless of size, to voluntarily protect the species.

this link goes to min sizes, and teh others are interesting articles.
Ian
http://www.seaangler.com/Seaangler_Min_Sizes.html

"Christine Sheffield" wrote in message .. .
Excuse me butting in to your conversation...

Do the legal minimum sizes also apply to beach fishing?

I fish from my boat, and I always measure my fish. I bought a plastic gauge
from a tackle shop, and it came with a long list of the legal sizes. My
husband says his friend put paint marks on his rod, showing the legal
minimums for the usual fish he catches, so he doesn't have to bother with a
gauge.

I would have thought there _ought_ to be somewhere on the net, to download
updates on the legal sizes, but I haven't found it yet. Does anyone have a
link, please?

Christine

"Ian Hooksem" wrote in message
...
if you dont know what you are doing, then my advice - wait until you get
there and go to local tackle shop. Tell them you are a beginner, and going
to be a regular customer for the summer.
£30-£40 would give you a starter beachcaster rod and reel, probably with
line and hooks thrown in.
Lead weights will be extra - 50p to £1.50 each, mackeral feathers cost teh
same; and any bait of course.
Plus you will get all the free local advice you need - how to, where to,
when to, etc. Tackle shops LOVE helping a newby who is visiting their neck
of the woods - you represent good custome over many months.

BTW - gars are good eating - cook like mackeral
Mackeral - if you have a b b q on the beach, then forget the sauce - just
wack em on the head, gut em, and throw em on the bbq; do not overcook - no
more than1 minute each side
if you are really into culinary stuff - let a few cooked mackeral go cold,
fillet them, and make a pate! great with gooseberry sauce and ritz

crackers.
Ian

"Pscylo" wrote in message
...
Greetz,

I've always fancied a go at sea fishing (from beach or pier - though
beach prefereable), and as I'm little to spending qite a few weekends
away this summer in Lincs/Norfolk/Suffolk (East Anglian coast
generally), camping with the kids and wife, I wouldn't mind havcing a
go.

Trouble is, where so I start. I did once have a go at freshwater fishing
but it alway seemed a little pointless because I like eating fish, so I
have some rods, albeit old. I'm going to have to take alook and sea what
they are.

I guess I'm asking what what be a good starting point for a complete
novice, in terms of kit, can I use what I've got or are specialist rods
required. I don't really want to spend a fortune, as It may not be for
me, but I just thought it may give me something to do whe there isn't
enough surf for bodyboarding.

Any advice, website links etc most welcome. Bear in mind i proabably
won't understand fishing jargon, so keep it simple (for a simpleton!!)

--
Pscylo







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